My Video Was Used To Train AI
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- Опубликовано: 18 дек 2024
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In this video, I dive into the unsettling world of AI training, specifically how Generative AI companies are using publicly available videos to train their models. After seeing a vlogbrothers video, I went on a deep investigative hunt to find out if any of my content has been used. Spoiler alert: I found some! Plus, I talk about the ethics behind using creators’ work without consent or compensation, and of course, share how I use AI tools myself.
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Jeff Geerling had a channel use ai to recreate his voice and used it for voice over in their video. Fortunately for him, the channel was very quick to respond and take remedial action. As you said though, the tools available make it so easy for anyone to reproduce your likeness, it's unlikely you'd be able to keep up with take downs, especially if you're famous and lots of people want that likeness to help drive engagement on "their" creations. It's the age old meme: You made this? I made this.
Love the futuristic fitted outfit.
Thank you! I thought it fit the topic at hand 😆
Hopefully she didn't get a Cease and desist letter from Microsoft Game Studios 😆
I’m getting a TRON vibe
I'm happy with my content being used noncommercially. When it's used in a commercial purpose, I expect to be compensated in some way.
The problem is that the innovation is driven by big money, and this is a whole new era of messy singularity event-horizon stuff.
I just want to be safe and warm and have a place where I can help others.
As someone who teaches cybersecurity and then has the classes I teach uploaded to RUclips as unlisted videos that students are then linked to it does have me very curious. I checked my videos and my years of teaching are not part of the data set.
The issue becomes if it's a consent issue there's not really much justice that can be resolved, we're in the age where a fine is just an expense item in a budget. Yet the companies have no profits to share. I honestly don't know how I feel about it. I pay for ChatGPT, I've made thousands of dollars from it helping me teach and write curriculum is that my compensation? Is ChatGPT whether we like it or not the first "public good" project paid with public taxes... a tax of data instead of money?
Are we at the point of no data taxation without data representation?
This is a really good and insightful comment. And interesting that none of your content was found,so it does seem to only scrape publicly available content.
@@ShannonMorse I read somewhere a few days ago that courses on Udemy were being used by Udemy to train AI without the content creator's consent.
People saying your job is not a job, simply showcase their lack of knowledge on the matter. If they have such an opinion, I can't take them serious anymore and will just "swipe" them aside. :)
I would love to see you put together a long form panel to discuss this issue at length with creators, company leaders, etc. from all sides of these issues.
Producing content these days is so wrought with issues. It honestly has been rough for a long time. Thanks for sharing and thanks for hanging in there!
I’m hearing faint distortion in the left channel.
It might be worthwhile to check your contracts. Just because you were an employee or contractor does not mean you don't have standing to file a complaint over the use of your content in ways you didn't approve. You might have standing.
Yes under copyright law there is a concept called "moral rights". Not often used. Depends on the country. But it could apply.
This is why we need a legal statute requiring attribution for content used in training AI as well as conveying right s and limitations and contact information for rights holders
I see training a language model with content no different than, say, making a movie out of a book. You can't just do that and say it is so tranformative that copyright doesn't apply.
Real talk. Thanks for sharing!
I would change one thing in this video. At 8:00 I would change, "properly credited or compensated," to, "properly credited AND compensated." Cheers.
I specifically chose that wording because that's what I would prefer. I'm sure plenty of creators would prefer both, tho! I already give my videos for free to universities to use in their classrooms, with credit. I don't expect compensation in that scenario.
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I feel like it's Napster all over again.
Ha! Good point 😆
You mean the general misunderstanding and hysteria?
AI bad!
Surely at some point the ship has to crash into the rocks over this AI stealing. There has to be legal action somewhere that someone does.
@@musicalneptunian They aren't really stealing though, are they? Its more like unfair or undisclosed use by the hosting platforms that have rights to the content.
I agreed with everything you said except the part about how content creation isn't a real job and that creators don't deserve to be compensated for their efforts. As a knowledge worker myself, I've had people tell me, not necessarily in so many words, that they thought my services had no value, and as a business owner, I know what it's like to have to keep my composure in the face of a comment like that. So I actually experienced a moment of rage on your behalf that someone said it to your face. Then, deciding to put some money where my keyboard is, so to type (ok, this metaphor is getting mangled), I went to your Patreon site and signed up. Your content is unique and valuable and worth way more than I can afford to pay, and hopefully, someday, I will be able to send more.
I will add that while the only reasons I subscribe to your channel are the deep knowledge that you share with us and the pleasant, easy-to-follow way that you present it, I confess that I did appreciate how your hair matches your shirt in this video.
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I agree completely with your perspective on this. Like any author, artist, creator, etc they would all want some type of connection to the subsequent use of the products they produce either monetarily or by recognition. However, flip side of the coin is that for AI such as Copilot or ChatGPT to be effective it needs to be trained in massive amounts of content such as yours. If there are going to be barriers to that content in the form of fine print and licensing then it cannot harvest information easily and therefore over the years will end up having to train itself on less accurate content or worse yet , it will have to train itself on other AI content, which in turn has become more inaccurate for the aforementioned reasons, so things snowball until AI just dries up and becomes almost useless.
Yes, like I mentioned in the video, it's not so much that my content is used, but not being able to consent or receive a commission for that use. I enjoy using AI but have I an artists perspective when it comes to the usage.
Seriously? Your argument is like the bank robber saying "if i cant rob banks i wont make a living." It is not Shannon's problem that tech firms need massive amounts of data. If Google Meta etc need it then normal business is to approach a content creator and ask for rights; thats how royalties have worked for 100 plus years. You did Westside Story as your school play and charged tickets? Fine. But you have to contact the creators of the play first and pay them royalties.
@@musicalneptunian I didn't make an "argument". I made a statement. I said the flip side is that AI services, without access to large pools of public and easily accessible content to train from, will start to become inaccurate and outdated when all the new, accurate informational content has blocked itself from AI crawlers and everything becomes a paywall. It's not that I'm arguing "right" or "wrong" either way. But what we have is a vicious cycle where society may lose when AI is something everybody, including content creators, can't live with but also can't live without. And this isn't just my personal opinion. There have been a lot of discussions about the "AI model collapse".
Great now you got me using that website to see if my video was used to train AI.
And none.
This training is not copying in any shape or form. It is a statistical analysis for finding things that usually go together and adjusting simple filters such that their output becomes similar. (learning; e.g. painting a picture over and over until it is similar to what you target for)
the learned concepts are independent of the data (hence the problem with "unlearning")
except in the tiniest particles though, but there it comes to a point, where these particles (e.g. words) are present in many different sources, such that nobody can be pinpointed as the original creator.
My gist is: IMO if you did not limit the use for statistical analysis (which is a very narrow case nobody probably has thought of, except the EU) then you're probably out of luck in my opinion.
PS: Some comments are concerned with the actual impersonations. To make it clear, I do not advocate for impersonation nor unlicensed trademark usage. However on content that is meant to be consumed and learned of on, it seems wild to differentiate between human and machine consumers. just my opinion though.
Sure where’s the proof?
"This training is not copying in any shape or form." This is missing the point. We have a new industry that cropped up and has changed the way copyright, NIL (name, image, and likeness), and data privacy needs to be handled in a world unequipped to deal with it. Trying to apply the legalese of old isn't relevant here and with where these legal cases are headed, won't be relevant at all in the near future.
@@CM-mo7mv That's like saying a digital print of the Mona Lisa isn't copying because it wasn't produced by painting.
The fact that the computer is internally doing some math is true of all software and doesn't negate the practical implications that the output of a model can effectively plagiarize the sources it was trained on.
@@dragonwisardExactly this. For example, Suno generative AI when prompted to create trap music, will recreate soundalike producer tags that might as well have been samples of the original artists it was trained on. The generative model has failed to generalise how to create its own unique producer tag for trap music creations. Just claiming there's a statistical model somewhere does not magically absolve the AI company of all responsibility.
this is excellent work highlighting the problem im trying to solve..
we have NO idea what these companies are doing after we click Agree.. and there's zero accountability right now ..
Dang...Techzilla. I've been watching you for a looooong time!
Hahaha
Especially when the channels are defunct, it becomes fair game from a certain corporate point of view. :: grr ::
RUclips is owned by Google. Google loves AI. They're not really going to do anything to slow down AI slurping up all info that it can reach via a TCP connection. The profit model of AI is that it cannot make profit if it pays creators for their work, so therefore it must be their right to simply steal all that info they're taking advantage of for *their* profit margin.
Great. We now we are all stars in a cyberpunk kleptocracy movie.
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You Go Girl; you tell them what's up!!!
Well done video! You made it you should have control over work!
Lets first get this out of the way. We're in an AI wild wild west right now. In some areas of the world essentially everything is allowed (US) and in some other areas regulation is stifling AI advances (EU). Neither are good in the long term.
I get your point and I even agree with probably most of it from your viewpoint. However... right now i see AI as a tool that boosts productivity a lot. You yourself are also happily using it which saves you a lot of time (and therefore potentially money). Given that fact i'd say that it's a small "price" to pay to let AI train on your publicly available videos too. Let's make no mistake here, AI should not "learn" any form of private data without consent! But publicly available data like just someone watching your video, especially if you benefit from it too, should not be a big issue. Emphasis on the public! I get that there is a point to be made that your content is used in the response of an AI that helps a user which now has an answer without ever seeing your video, that's a missed view for you along with potentially missed revenue.
But is it really. You're super technical so i hope you can make a video about this. Could you, with your own video statistics, see a difference in viewer counts ever since AI became a thing? Like can you actually see a drop in viewers that correlates with a release of an AI model (say GPT 4o or whatever). You'd have a solid point if you can show that AI is costing you viewers and thus revenue. In the end all this boils down to a feeling of being compensated fairly. If the viewer count isn't affected by AI then the source of this complaint changes to not just being compensated fairly but to be compensated by a new technology that on it's own doesn't affect your viewer count (assumption). It's akin to a hypothetical new platform scraping your video and getting views on that new platform.
Also, youtubers who complain about this often bring up the argument of not having any viewers in the future because AI is replacing it all. You didn't so i'm just saying this for reference. I don't know if i'm right or wrong but i don't think that any AI, not even if it's AGI or super intelligence, is going to change people's consumption of video much or any. We're also still calling people and still messaging people, both of which have been completely replaced many times over in the past (remember morse code or sending messages via an actual living pidgin?). By which i merely mean to say that our habits are unlikely to change but the tech used to fulfill these habits changes all the time.
I'm glad you brought this up: specifically the part about views being hit. And yes, I have. There's this thing called invalid traffic which RUclips penalizes channels for. And a lot of tech / educational channels have been penalized monetarily because RUclips thinks that our channel views are coming from bots. RUclips isn't good enough to differentiate when views come from a "bot" vs a real viewer, so RUclips will disable ad revenue completely on certain videos or entire channels. If those "bots" are actually AI modeling, which maybe (?), then that directly impacts creators even moreso. For more on this issue, search for "invalid traffic" on x to see all the complaints from creators.
The real question is where is the EU when you need it xD??
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Lol 16 years and this the first time this compulsive RUclips consumer has ever seen your face 👀
Crazy how big youtube is
8:12 okay 👌🏼👍🏼 okay... The sass 💯❤
AI is like the Herpes of the internet it seems! The gift that keeps on giving and you can't get rid of it!
Nice 👍
Sue, sue, sue.
no, no, no.. don't sue. Then all of the cool tools will be taken away from us. That's like dumping a 5 gallon bucket of water on a campfire. Instead we need to feed the fire and keep the party going.
So so true. this is why i dont talk in my indie game devl vlog videos so that my voice dont get cloned by companies or bad actors. and that also a thing sadly. and i dont think youtube is going to do anything with this until they get taken to court because youtube sells it data to nvidia and others like microsoft, chatgpt, etc both the entire video++ so youtube(google) earns on others work, and ther excuse is that its puublic so its free to use.. i fear that soon the internett and world is going to struggle because how images can be generated with realistic looking person and also the deepfake photo and video its a matter of time before actors youtubers sudenly get wrongfully investigated for some thing they have not done and same with others too its like revenge P*** but Worse sadly, perhaps skynet is not so distance in the future after all i fear
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100%
It is sad, but I said years ago how technology was evolving faster than society is and that we would be constantly bumping up against controversies until we have adult conversations about it and make active choices about what is acceptable in society.
FWIW I was watching your videos well before 2014 ;)
What I preach to folks is not to use AI as it is garbage in garbage out so in other words pure junk.
I think humans are just going to have to get used to the fact that all of their repeatable tasks are going to be repeatable and optimizable and go into the broader whole. The problem is you live in a settler colony and you don't trust your civil society. And you have no say in the matter.
Your legal recourse is when things are generated and you are able to detect it like this. You should have a legal case here because they took you. And if you can convince a judge of that you can win. And that's how all of these things will play out.
But people who found that their stuff was used in a model that generated an untold amount of things both economically and otherwise valuable, you're talking about subpennies on the subpenny and that sort of big class action is just too broad And it's just not going to happen. What might happen is you might get 5% more from the companies that sold you out.
But they've been doing that for years with just your data before they could do anything with it.
But this idea that you have to treat what they did with AI any different than any other mindset contained within a human body is about to become ridiculous because of AI's ability. Which is higher than all of ours. We did it
First :)