Not even gonna lie, Eddie looking like shit the entire movie is one of my absolute favourite choices ever. You expect the typical “shirtless badass” scene the whole time but it’s just a sweaty Tom Hardy looking like he’s coming out of a three day coke binge.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen this movie but also it makes sense for him since Venom is at first killing his body right? But then it decides to reverse the damage it’s caused when it starts to like Eddie
@@LordPatroclus they are homies so like homiesexual kind of relationship and “they” don’t have a baby only venom does venom is asexual so Eddie didn’t had nun to do with it
That just makes it weird. My cousin recently pointed out how weird their age gap is and how they are usually close in age when they face off. If they actually go though with the crossover, then he was right.
@@parkerboy795 it’s not weird MCU spider-man faced off against vulture and he’s in his 30’s or 40’s Spider-Man always fight villains who are older than him (MCU Spider-Man that is)
I felt like that was a good character moment for the villain cuz he’s like “ask your question and don’t let people silence you,” AND THEN HE JUST WALKS AWAY it shows he really doesn’t care and it plays into his character for the rest of the movie
I mean, 'stealing her documents with her consent' would also be a thing as well, it just means that she's going to lie to the gov't about her documents being stolen to ensure she doesn't go to jail.
I love this movie because the hack writers clearly wanted the protagonist to be a cool and utter badass, but the Tom Hardy took one look at the character and decided he would be violently ill, in constant pain, and kind of a dipshit who's always confused by the absurd situation. it's like he's fighting the script with a more compelling idea
Yeah he and the director had wildly different visions of the character, and Venom 2 will turn off the brakes and give Tom Hardy's version all the attention
The thing is that people always forget that venom in the comics wasn't that different from the one in the movies, sometimes it feels nobody actually know the character and assume vemon is never dumb and my god that's not true
So pretty much the same thing that happened with Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean. Jack Sparrow was originally intended to be more of a generic badass, swashbuckler-type-of-character but Johnny Depp decided to instead play the character as a drunken, washed up, ambiguously gay rockstar suffering from syphilis (yes, according to Depp, Jack Sparrow has syphilis). He also wanted Jack Sparrow to be missing his nose, with a hideous wound where his nose used to be but this idea was shot down as being too much. As a result of Depp's antics during the production of the film, Disney executives were absolutely livid about his performance, with then-CEO of Disney Michael Eisner in particular having a huge fit about the whole thing. As Depp himself recalls about the whole affair, “It trickled back to me that Michael Eisner went on some sort of bent about how ‘Goddamnit Johnny Depp’s ruining the film! Is it drunk? Is it gay?’ And so I fully expected to be fired, and I got a call from the upper echelon at Disney who were courageous enough to ask me, ‘What the fuck are you doing?’ And again, the questions came up, ‘Is it drunk? Is it gay?’ All I could say was, cause they set me up with a great line, I said, ‘Well don’t you know all my characters are gay?’ I really expected to be fired, but I wasn’t for some reason. They were actually gonna put subtitles under my character, they couldn’t understand Captain Jack.”
YES, my god the reviews that bitch about Tom "over-acting" the role are so dumb and boring, Eddie's just an insane unginhed little creacher of a man and we love that for him!
"Venom takes over his ex's body and creates a fetish that I didn't even know I had". What are the chances this isn't a joke & Marcus now has a black goo monster fetish?
Gotta love how for once a movie doesn't portray the other man (Eddie's ex-fiance's boyfriend) as some jerk that's trying to hurt the main character. The boyfriend was pretty nice and helped Eddie. Also, Eddie and the ex-fiance didn't end up back together which I liked too
I didn’t lol Bc I liked what they had but f*** me what an a**hole I guess In all seriousness I liked Dan he was a really nice guy and would hate to see her dump him, but also want Eddie to be happy again
4:20 What gets me is that Eddie's boss acknowledges that Eddie the kind is the kind of journalist that likes to investigate and expose bad people, then puts on a surprised Pikachu face when he does exactly that. Let's be real, Eddie was not the only fool in that situation.
In all honesty, Venom telling Eddie that he's what made him love earth, is the most indulgent, pure, sugary sweet bullshit I've seen in a long time. Venom is the feel good romantic dramedy of 2016.
Venom captures the “Holy shit this is insane what the fuck is going on” essence of the 90s’ Venom comic books (most notably Venom: Lethal Protector) perfectly
Dude wtf are you talking about? This movie is nothing like the comics.. these movies suck. I swear some of these comments are bots or something. Every person I know I’m person agrees with me that these movies are garbage. Venom shouldn’t have been a borderline comedy just so they can try to get more ticket sales with a little kid rating. They would have been way more successful if they made it darker.. there is a reason why all these trash ass marvel movies flop
@@findawaytowin2968My man, I love how you completely outed yourself as having zero fucking idea *what* the Lethal Protector and other 90s Venom comics were like. Hint: They were goofy, insane and comedic
"Eddie's life does not get better in this movie. He does not get any happier, and he doesn't grow as a character." Yeah but he's got an alien boyfriend so who's really the winner here, huh?
“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9 “for ‘everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’” Romans 10:13
Tom Hardy is an old personal friend of mine. He used to train at the local gym with my late brother (who was a professional MMA and cage fighter and fought with Katie ("Jordan") Price's ex husband Alex Reid when he was building himself up for his role in 'Bronson'. Tom's success story is like something out of 'revenge of the nerds'. I remember him being a very quiet and retiring guy who loved comics and sci fi and vintage horror films.It's strange seeing your friends on the telly on reality TV shows but that is ramped up 500% when you see them in blockbuster movies jumping out of exploding buildings and have action figures made out of them. It's all good though. we are so proud of Tom and all he has achieved.
@@iainstuchbery yeah, dont go into this movie expecting a master piece, you will be diasapointed. Go into it and just expect to have fun because its a fun movie.
Or how he stays as jacked as he is when he's supposed to he a guy barely scraping by. No normal guy with little money barely scraping for food/rent has Tom Hardy's build naturally.
Given how Marcus pointed out how unrealistically nice as well as incompetent people are in this movie, I guess the in-universe "explanation" is that the landlord just waved his rent until Eddie got back on his feet, like any landlord would in real life. Clearly the same goes for all of the utility companies he would have to pay otherwise. [Insert forced laugh track here.] That or he's just whoring himself out like no tomorrow, which would also conveniently explain how he's still so fit despite seeming perpetually inebriated and how he affords to be perpetually inebriated in the first place even as cheap as some rotgut is.
I honestly wasn’t bothered by Venom changing his mind about earth so fast because he’s just an insanely impulsive creature. I feel like it’s believable that he’d realize that he can have fun running around here with Eddie and then just decide to blow up the other symbiotes because they were all dicks anyway
If you were a total dweeb who constantly got kicked around and were suddenly in a different place where you were basically an unstoppable god, it would make sense that you’d want to stay
Yeah, to be honest here, I find the idea that Venom was a loser on his planet, but on earth he can be special to be a fun twist on such a character. It really took the dark origin and said screw it. Haha.
The way it's explained here is basically that venom is afraid of being bullied back home, being a loser and all And venom saying that Eddie is the real reason why he's staying on earth Given the context of the first answer, and how Eddie acted the entire movie It makes complete sense on it's own
I think my favourite thing in this film is the relationship between Eddie, Dan and Anne because of the way they handled it. It’s nice to see them get along and support each other despite a broken off relationship.
@@FULANODETAL I hate that they’re trying to incorporate mcu spider man into the Sony verse. Mcu spider man has good movies and characters while Sony does not have a good track record with heroes so I don’t trust them with mcu spider man at all unless venom 2 changes for the better
The first time I watched this film in theatres and heard the line “My legs…they were broken…and now they’re not broken…” spoken by Tom Hardy, out loud, to no one, was the moment I knew Venom was something special
I love how they portrayed the real life transition of venom being written as a villain in the comics to being written as an antihero in the comics in one simple convo between Eddie and Venom where Eddie basically says "Don't kill anybody unless they're bad guys"
it's what most of the time happens to popular villains, we can add Deadpool to the list too, man was a cold blooded murderer with psychosis probably. there are very few exceptions to this rule, say perhaps the Joker where it seems as everyone still prefers him as the bad guy he is.
@@saaros Deadpool never was a bad guy or even a villian. He was a anti hero in the main storyline right from the start. I think youre deeply confused by all the alternative Storylines that describe him as a psycho like deadpool kills the marvel universe etc
They could have fixed some things by having Venom be the symbiote that escaped and made his way back to San Francisco by body hopping instead of Riot. You could then have the white spider logo present, the implication being that Venom was in New York for a while on his way. It also explains the trust/bond between Riot and Drake, they've been in close contact daily at the lab. That way, Venom actively wanting to save the day makes sense, he's had a lot of interaction with a huge amount of different people whereas Riot has only interacted with a guy who was routinely killing homeless people without any remorse.
As a big fan of the comics, I’m honestly pretty glad that Venom got his own story without Spider-Man. I thought it was a nice change of pace that was done well.
I love the part where the kid doesn't get to ask her question, makes me laugh every time. And I feel like it is an unintentional comment on deflection and evasion from powerful people.
@@krazysamurai yeah, the whole chase scene was pointlessly long and cheesy, the “my legs were broken now they’re not” could go through if the narrative was on par to it, but nah
I’m so glad I’m not the only one that finds it so funny. At first I thought she was going to ask where the bathroom was as a punchline to follow his little speech… BUT THEN SHE NEVER GETS TO ASK HER QUESTION 😭😂😭😂
"I'm sorry about Venom" is one of the greatest lines ever to appear in a film. I went to see this with my brother when it came out and he absolutely lost his shit laughing when she said that. I think that every movie should contain a sombre, reflective scene at the end where one of the characters says "I'm sorry about [MOVIE TITLE]"
My haters throw rocks at me and IT hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! I am the funniest RUclipsr EVAH! Please agree, dear natt
I feel like you can tell from Tom Hardy´s performance that he was the only person that knew what kind of movie it was. And from what Andy Serkis has been saying in interviews, he also understands what kind of movie the sequel should be, a straight up goofy action sci-fi flick that doesn´t make sense at all but it´s fun to watch.
Shiii F the critic's that's all the reason's you said is why I'm watching it lol Comedy/Fights/Power's people whine too much lol "oH tHe CgI" what they expect a giant ass goo man suit swinging around lol
@@norrin_falk what you want a serious villain Venom? He's an anti hero with a sick sense of humour & with jokes comes comedy what you expect from a comic character that literally says "Eye's, Lung's, Pancreas! So many snacks so little Time!!!" Movie Venom- "We should be snacking on bad guys!!!" You must be thinking of Carnage maybe
@@sleepingshaq2541 I expect not being a fucking goofball, are you reading yourself? The character is an anti-hero but how does that immediately mean he cracks jokes? Did you read ANY comics with him? When he says that line he''s dead fucking serious, Venom does NOT crack jokes 24/7 and does not give cooking and relationship tips and you just gave away that you never read a single comic with him in it.
I don't want this to be an attack on any critic. Something that's a 10/10 for me could be a 0/10 for someone else. For example, I love the Amazing Spider-Man Franchise, I think both movies are great. But I don't like the Raimi SM movies. I've seen so many people going completely off the rails about how "Your opinion is invalid" like dude, It's an opinion not a fact.
@@BayHarborGulper holy shit man the sam raimi films are horrible. It’s basically a parody movie, yet the fans are completely rabid and attack anyone who criticises the film Edit: my response to the clown complaining about the venom movies below “Venom was MORE goofy in the comics. In the movie he wasn’t even that goofy and the movie wasn’t even very comical. In the comics he tries to get revenge on Peter Parker by pretending to be a hotdog stand and giving him the wrong ketchup sauce for his hotdog. That is a million times more goofy than anything venom did in the movie. You’re blatantly exaggerating to an absurd degree how comedic the movie way to justify a ridiculous unreasonable bias against the film. Most of all your claims are unsubstantiated and just baseless complaints. Oh the dialogue was bad? No elaboration, no examples. Oh the plot had too many holes? No elaboration, no examples. Cut the shit, you’re just whining about a movie with no real reasons and your only excuses are unfair exaggerations of the film”
My favorite part is the fact that they mispronounced "simbiote" during filming, got brutally made fun of after the trailers dropped, and just very obviously overdubbed the final cut of the movie to correct it without reshooting any of the scenes. For anyone who doesn't know, rewatch the trailers. They pronounce it "sim-bye-oat" and it's incredible.
It makes you wonder how the actors Hardy, Slate the director, camera operators, sound techs, lighting people, grips, extras, script supervisor, continuity supervisor, producers on set, the editors of the movie/trailer etc etc *all* miss this?
"I just don't think movie characters freak out appropriately when they see scary stuff." I agree with this. Personally, I'd stumble, crawl away and ugly cry aimlessly - alternatively, I'd snap and pray to a god for my continued existence.
@@KaiKrimson56 bruh what, so because you’ve seen a fake, animated cartoon, you shouldn’t be surprised if that happens in real life lmao. Damn imma start running off cliffs hoping if I just don’t realize I’m going off the cliff I can kinda float until I look down and realize
Yeah even as someone who liked Venom, the final fight was absolute crap, watching a black blob and a gray blob beat each other up in the nighttime is super hard to see
“It’s like the whole movie we’re just following a weird drunk idiot.” You know what, that is very accurate and the exact kind of himbo superhero energy I want.
One thing I absolutely adore about Venom's design in this movie is how they gave him white veins that mimic the spider symbol from the comics. It's amazing how far they went to keep Venom's iconic look even though they couldn't include Spiderman.
@@whatsyourpoint5417 Lol what? Venom was created before Knull was ever a thought. In the comics, its literally the same symbiote Spiderman got rid of. Venom was just evil spiderman, thats why he had the symbol.
I really think venom films are complete trash. There's just nothing to enjoy here. People say watch like a dumb enjoyable film but it's still trash. Aquaman is a much better film in this aspect
This movie is literally a B-movie with an A-movie budget. It’s aware of it, plays it straight and embraces it. Watching it like it’s anything more and then either loving or hating it (there doesn’t really seem to be a middle ground) is completely on the viewer. To some it’s bad, to others it’s great. I’m in the great category.
Still much better than the new Spider-Man movies, Degrassi/Riverdale level drama stitched with jokes 24/7 by every character except Spider-Man, yeah that's how I wanna relive the pages!
You know, sometimes I feel like we need more movies like venom that are just dumb schlock that's very entertaining. I do enjoy more serious works of art, but i also love movies like Venom.
when the transformer movies came out y’all bitched and moaned about it but when a bad movie with venom comes out y’all go on here and say “you know what? we need more movies like this”
I mean, if you take this movie to be a romantic sci-fi comedy between Eddie and the symbiote, Venom's reasons for staying on Earth suddenly make a lot more sense. Side note: the symbiote is in complete control when it takes over its host's body - you can tell by the internal struggle Eddie gives when Venom is in control. So like. That heavy tongue action Venom gave Eddie?? That was 100% the symbiote lol. There's no way that's the only way to transfer to a new host.
Even though it was bad i still ended up really liking it. The relationship between tom hardy and venom were the best parts in the movie imo plus the goofy nature of it all
it's so wild to me that Upgrade and Venom came out within a few months of each other and had similar stories/concepts, a similar action scene, and similar-looking actors playing their main characters
@@arcanum3882 Some of them are pretty great but the vast majority of them feel very Cookie cutter and generic the last superhero movie I watched in theaters was the far from home and even then I thought it was just ok. But I'd rather watch that movie ten times over then ever having to rewatch venom
In this age of extreme caution, soulless blandness and every movie being focus tested to within an inch of its life, the art of the good bad blockbuster is sadly dying out. I'm grateful to movies like Venom for holding the torch. If only it had an R rating.
Absolutely agree with you. Not every movie, especially not every superhero movie, has to take itself seriously. Sometimes you just want to watch something dumb and crazy, and there is nothing bad with it
Its the only superhero movie after the Raimi Spider-Man ones that i have rewatched, and plan to continue rewatching as well. I like a movie thats just fun, and not mostly just to keep up with current timeline events.
@@SilverMontegiu but here is just one little thing you are missing. EVERY superhero movie nowadays is cheesy, silly, forced, and dumb. We need more serious superhero movies that (gasp) stick to the scourge material.
Well, that's just a matter of opinion, I guess, but I think that seriousness and superhero genre just do not mix together well. The only examples of actually good serious superhero movies that I can think of are Nolan's Batman trilogy and The Watchmen (Although the latter, imho, is really pretentious and boring). Everything else is just as dumb as Venom, if not more so
2:24 - 2:50 Both the Moon Knight TV series and the Venom movies seem to share the same exact traits and structure, and yet complete opposites at the same time: the former can be funny and serious when the scenes demand them while the latter can be funny and serious AT ANY RANDOM MOMENTS.
He was wobbly throughout the movie It's like he's depressed and mentally tired because he can not get drugs anymore And when he said that line "climbing a tree super, super fast" I was cringing pretty hard and just wanted him to fucking speak up like raise the damn voice and speak clearly
I hated that too. The only thing I liked about this movie is that they got Venoms design down right. But man the CGI gets unbearable at a certain point.
@@abdullahamr9941 Bad Acting Is one. What's funny is I think Ahmed and Hardy have done spectacular acting in the past but their acting is unbelievable bad and Cosmonaut summed it up perfectly. Hardy is trying to hard to sound like a NY Meathead and Ahmed is just monotone as fuck. Also the story is just bad. It has no clear stakes or direction. It doesn't set up what story I'm supposed to be invested in good enough at all. The story our protagonist is engaged in doesn't interest me in the slightest. Everything is just thrown at Eddie so it's hard to feel invested. Also the CGI is terrible and the action is terrible. If the plot is gonna be nonsensical and stupid then at least give me good action. But I couldn't get that either. The movie scenes are heavily cut to oblivion to hide the gore and the CGI is extremely distracting because of how bad it is.
@@SuperMurray2009 the CGI was great, its better than what you and I can make, the artist did their best with it, try watching Canadian lads video about it where he points out art details in Venom, its really interesting.
I fucking hate those discovering weird alien human reacts movie screams. Thank you for articulating that, I never knew exactly how to relay how much those scenes annoy me.
"Everyone in this movie is just so nice, and just so stupid" I think that's why a lot of people actually love it. Venom 2018 is just a shitshow of himbos stumbling around and you'd be surprised how many people are into that. Everything else these days takes itself so seriously, (even the plot of Venom 2018 was not immune and that's one of it's worst qualities) maybe we *want* a few movies where literally everyone, from the protags to the villains to the side characters are all just so hilariously bad at what they do. It's a modern era clown show. Movie theaters showing a movie like this are the new circus tent. Except instead of being entertained by abused animals, we're going into this new tent to see a bunch of idiots set themselves on fire while riding unicycles, but it's all with a wink and a smile because everyone involved is just so good natured.
I like how If they made deadpool a serious film everyone would've hated it but when they transform the Venom franchise into a stupid and badly written comedy everyone is ok because haha funny joke like movie 😀
@@simonenot5839 i don't think that's true. Deadpool has dozens of "serious" storylines in the comics that people like a lot. and if done well in a movie, people will like it much as the other films, if not more
@@simonenot5839 deadpool did have some serious moment, and its why the comedy makes it even better. where venom is just a shit show. people only like it because its marvel. if u see this type of shit in other movie, you'll have critics shitting on it. shit, hellboy was a shit show but didn't recieve the "i love it because its fun and stupid".
There is obviously a way to pull off a comedy better than marvel did with Venom. Hell, for a change they could make a movie that actually had a purpose, but instead they turn a character whose main purpose is Spiderman's foil and nemesis into an anti-hero. Funny anti-hero this, funny anti-hero that. Marvel just tried to recreate the humour that made Deadpool stand out and it just isn't working. Venom feels like a sloppy movie, and justifying amy other opinion is like calling The Room a great movie cause you laughed at it ironically, people give it that treatment cause Marvel is an established firm, and people chew on whatever mediocre film they push.
The scream trope annoys me, but the one in the grinch actually made me laugh because Jim carry screams so humorously. It’s never made me laugh any other time, and I was legitimately surprised that it got me.
I quite like Venom, UNIRONICALLY Venom looks much better in this version than in Spider-Man 3, Riot and Carlton Drake are somewhat interesting villains, and I wouldn’t expect Eddie to look like some shirtless badass when he’s bonded with an alien that’s actively KILLING HIM, so I like the fact that he looks sick Also, his character is depressed, his fiancé left him, he lost the one job he’d ever wanted and he’s forced to live in a small and shitty apartment It’s fun
I agree with everything you just said EXCEPT about the venom design. The spider-man 3 one looks like a straight up nightmarish alien, while Venom venom just looks like goop.
@@HouseWrennt I think they meant body-wise. Venom in its own movie looks more accurate when it becomes full body, whereas Spider-Man 3 venom just looks like the black Spider-Man suit with a different face.
I absolutely would not put it past Musk or Jeff Bezos to have mercenary armies and fleets of attack drones. I mean, when you're that rich, who the fuck is going to stop you?
@@LordMangudai exactly lol Elon probably has a deal to make stuff with the Army, and Zuck prolly got Area 51 on lockdown. These guys are a at least half as powerful as the government.
12:37 Venom retracted himself into Eddy's body when he hit the fire which clearly shows his vulnerability to fire. And about that lab escape scene, Eddy was too dissolved into escaping people who will kill him so he definitely didn't have time to question what insane stunts and moves he pull off just like a normal person wouldn't. That is just my opinion
@@ChadKakashi not at all, I know that the scales are much higher but when people are under much pressure, and there are tons of adrenaline flowing through their body, they kinda forget anything else besides their main objective, in Eddie's case it was, "I gotta run for my life, those sons of a bitches are going to kill me!!", While I do agree that he completely forgetting everything that happened is stupid, I can't agree with the escape scene itself is stupid, plus, it would really kill the pace of the movie if Eddie just said out loud to the audience, "holy shit, how did I do that?! I feel so much stronger"
@@ChadKakashi except he didn't forget, he talked about it later in the movie, asking the doctor or someone if a parasite would be able to make someone able to do crazy feats like climb really tall trees
Couldn't stand the Venom.movies. Really wish that they had gone with a serious and very dark tone. A rated R horror movie would have been better. A body horror movie would have been great.
In terms of movie tone,this flicks Venom seems like he would come from the world of the Andrew Garfield version of Spiderman. Theres humor in the movie,but it's too 'adult' to take place in Tobey Mcguire or Tom Hollands spiderverse
You said a few things: that Eddie is stumbling around like he's drunk the while movie, you expected Venom to be fueled by the build up of emotion in Eddie's downward spiralling life, and that Venom's motivations are all over the place. Perhaps they are all connected, though. Venom's odd motivations are being fueled by... whatever is going on with Eddie... and he has become as much of a mess as Eddie is. Just a thought. I didn't know if shine else had mentioned.
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"Venom just doesn't want to go home because he's afraid of being bullied by his friends..." Tell me thats not some what cute he turned from goo monster to a puppy after doin somethin bad.
i loved the venom movies because of how realistic it is. He doesn't automatically gain six pack and huge pecs, personal problems like paying rent automatically solved. intead, he's still troubled, but with this symbiote in him. Still trying to get his shit together, with more responsibilities.
The MCU/superhero movies in general really over use the “long pause after a joke” type moment, that’s mainly because every character is constantly throwing out one liners.
My favorite plot contradiction that you didn't mentioned is that the last fight takes place on a rocket launching site, and as we learned earlier Symbiotes don't like high sounds, when a plain flew like 200m over Venom he instantaneously hid and fall from a building, but when a freaking rocket is starting it has no effect whatsoever on Riot and venom XD
8:43 no but actually he is wasted. Eddie is constantly wasted through the whole movie. The worst parts are when he's on heroin. Not even kidding, it's a phenomenal performance.... in the wrong movie.
I have a soft spot for the Venom movie; as someone who’s been waiting to see Venom done justice in live action, I was pleasantly surprised with Tom Hardy’s portrayal, especially with his interactions with the symbiote throughout the entire movie. It may not be a masterpiece, but I think it really was an entertaining movie simply for Eddie and Venom’s chemistry alone. When it comes to the rating, I feel like the movie could’ve done much more fan service being rated R though I imagine it was made PG-13 because of the fact that the MCU might’ve inevitably wanted to get their hands on this iteration of the character for their cinematic universe. By now, I’ve seen this movie about 5 times and I never regret watching because of how fun it is to see my favorite Marcel character behave humorously and kick ass. Spoiler: Hopefully, with Venom being introduced into the MCU in Venom 2, he’ll get to have a more comic-accurate character development involving Spider-man. Also, it would be interesting to see a Venom movie written by one of the MCU’s better directors, like the Russo brothers for example.
I kinda liked the idea of the reason Eddie live in San Francisco I’d cause that version of Parker humiliated Eddie, and he hit a downward spiral till he met Anne.
Yeah Marvel wanted absolutely nothing to do with Venom and got strong armed by Sony into involving this version in the MCU under the premise of allowing Marvel Studios to keep using Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. This film was PG 13 due to Sony’s hoping one day they’d be able to mix their Spider-Man characters with the MCU and piggy back off their success which has all come to fruition I guess lol
This movie convinced me that being the host of Venom is like being mildly high on MDMA all the time cause that is exactly how Eddie Brock acts like the whole movie.
Please don't base your willingness to see a movie off of movie reviews Especially ones made by people who lie about the movie. Ex. This video, Everything Wrong With,
Coincidence, I just watched it yesterday. I didn’t mind it so much, but it’s pretty clear they went out the way to make this rated PG-13. But I do give credit for making this “Venom-verse” and character work without any mention of Spider-Man.
My suspicion is aside from wider target audience, the PG is here so that they can easily integrate Venom into the Spidey universe at some point and adjust with their tone and style
This thought just occurred to me, why hasn’t cosmonaut ever done any X-men reviews? Like all of them ranked or something? It’d even be good for why they suck with the exception of some? Idk, just spitballing
Not even gonna lie, Eddie looking like shit the entire movie is one of my absolute favourite choices ever. You expect the typical “shirtless badass” scene the whole time but it’s just a sweaty Tom Hardy looking like he’s coming out of a three day coke binge.
It’s been a while since I’ve seen this movie but also it makes sense for him since Venom is at first killing his body right? But then it decides to reverse the damage it’s caused when it starts to like Eddie
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i enjoyed this movie
Stop shit talking and supporting this weirdo uploader and venom is a great movie
@@NimrodPepega nah lmao, you're high, it's decent at best
Eddie had way more chemistry with Venom, than he did with what's-her-face.
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They did advertise the movie's DVD release as a romcom between Eddie and venom, lol
I mean,Eddie and Venom are in love in the comics and they even had a baby lol
(and yeah,the DVD was also advertised as a rom-com)
@@LordPatroclus they are homies so like homiesexual kind of relationship and “they” don’t have a baby only venom does venom is asexual so Eddie didn’t had nun to do with it
@@LordPatroclus I never thought Eddie was that lonely but ig the more you know
Eddie being a absolute loser with nothing going for himself makes it all the funnier knowing his future arch nemesis is a high schooler.
And the fact that his superpowers come from someone who's simply scared to go home and get bullied
That just makes it weird. My cousin recently pointed out how weird their age gap is and how they are usually close in age when they face off. If they actually go though with the crossover, then he was right.
In the comics the meet around the time peter is in college/adulthood
@@parkerboy795 it’s not weird MCU spider-man faced off against vulture and he’s in his 30’s or 40’s Spider-Man always fight villains who are older than him (MCU Spider-Man that is)
Is that sad or is the fact Peter is 26 and still in high school worse
the fact that the little girl never actually got to ask her question immediately stood out to me. It felt like an old Simpsons joke
I felt like that was a good character moment for the villain cuz he’s like “ask your question and don’t let people silence you,” AND THEN HE JUST WALKS AWAY it shows he really doesn’t care and it plays into his character for the rest of the movie
"He steals her documents without her consent"
... Yes, that's how stealing works.
Steals from the government without his girlfriend's consent.
Of course, why would she consent when she works there? But that's what he meant
"Hey can I steal your files?"
"Yeah sure."
Now he can steal them
@@somerandolad only if I steal
"He stole the documents"
Ok
"Without her consent"
That monster!
I mean, 'stealing her documents with her consent' would also be a thing as well, it just means that she's going to lie to the gov't about her documents being stolen to ensure she doesn't go to jail.
I love this movie because the hack writers clearly wanted the protagonist to be a cool and utter badass, but the Tom Hardy took one look at the character and decided he would be violently ill, in constant pain, and kind of a dipshit who's always confused by the absurd situation. it's like he's fighting the script with a more compelling idea
Yeah he and the director had wildly different visions of the character, and Venom 2 will turn off the brakes and give Tom Hardy's version all the attention
@Fax ad saved me
The thing is that people always forget that venom in the comics wasn't that different from the one in the movies, sometimes it feels nobody actually know the character and assume vemon is never dumb and my god that's not true
So pretty much the same thing that happened with Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean. Jack Sparrow was originally intended to be more of a generic badass, swashbuckler-type-of-character but Johnny Depp decided to instead play the character as a drunken, washed up, ambiguously gay rockstar suffering from syphilis (yes, according to Depp, Jack Sparrow has syphilis). He also wanted Jack Sparrow to be missing his nose, with a hideous wound where his nose used to be but this idea was shot down as being too much.
As a result of Depp's antics during the production of the film, Disney executives were absolutely livid about his performance, with then-CEO of Disney Michael Eisner in particular having a huge fit about the whole thing. As Depp himself recalls about the whole affair, “It trickled back to me that Michael Eisner went on some sort of bent about how ‘Goddamnit Johnny Depp’s ruining the film! Is it drunk? Is it gay?’ And so I fully expected to be fired, and I got a call from the upper echelon at Disney who were courageous enough to ask me, ‘What the fuck are you doing?’ And again, the questions came up, ‘Is it drunk? Is it gay?’ All I could say was, cause they set me up with a great line, I said, ‘Well don’t you know all my characters are gay?’ I really expected to be fired, but I wasn’t for some reason. They were actually gonna put subtitles under my character, they couldn’t understand Captain Jack.”
YES, my god the reviews that bitch about Tom "over-acting" the role are so dumb and boring, Eddie's just an insane unginhed little creacher of a man and we love that for him!
"Venom takes over his ex's body and creates a fetish that I didn't even know I had". What are the chances this isn't a joke & Marcus now has a black goo monster fetish?
Pretty high I'm guessing
I'm taking it at face value lol
Don't we all?
About as good as the chances it did the same to me.
100%
It is unironically the most memorable part of the movie besides the motorcycle chase
"A 7' tall *slime ghoul*." Thank you for writing my new Tinder bio.
Of course Venom would find San Francisco beautiful. He's not paying rent.
Give me rent.
@@m.e.c.hn.e.s.t4757 You’ll get your rent when you fix this damn door
@@99wins31 I missed the part where that's my problem.
the man, the myth, the legend, thenewbee himself, love your channel man🔥🔥
Venom later: Eddie, Eddie we should move to Arizona for affordable housing.
Gotta love how for once a movie doesn't portray the other man (Eddie's ex-fiance's boyfriend) as some jerk that's trying to hurt the main character. The boyfriend was pretty nice and helped Eddie. Also, Eddie and the ex-fiance didn't end up back together which I liked too
I didn’t lol Bc I liked what they had but f*** me what an a**hole I guess
In all seriousness I liked Dan he was a really nice guy and would hate to see her dump him, but also want Eddie to be happy again
Eddie doesn't need his ex back. He and venom have a happy gay relationship (at least in my headcannon)
@@Micolashs-Coffee don't give the NSFW artists any ideas!
@@Mr._Zook We're way too late for that...
They already did it
@@Micolashs-Coffee dont worry bro there actually canon
“Venom, get in the rocket!”
“Ok”
End credits
VENOM I GOT THAT VENOMM
@@maclaren9645 *casually sabotages engine and jumps out
4:20 What gets me is that Eddie's boss acknowledges that Eddie the kind is the kind of journalist that likes to investigate and expose bad people, then puts on a surprised Pikachu face when he does exactly that. Let's be real, Eddie was not the only fool in that situation.
That bugged me when I watched it. Anyone with any integrity would've assigned someone more objective.
He said that to be respectful in the interview where he was on the record lol
In all honesty, Venom telling Eddie that he's what made him love earth, is the most indulgent, pure, sugary sweet bullshit I've seen in a long time. Venom is the feel good romantic dramedy of 2016.
It was made in 2018
Oh my God yes. Listen. I WANT MY GAY MONSTER LOVING ROMANCE
2016 wut? One hundred and fourteen+ people upvotes you blindly….WHAY WHY DO YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME LOSE HOPE IN HUMANITY.
lmaoooooooo
@@ChiseledDiamond they don't have a romance weirdo
“Creates a fetish I didn’t even know I had.”
Venom in a nutshell.
Thank God this isn’t in the Main MCU Universe.
@@gevvy6 Ｓｉｒ, ｔｈｉｓ
ｉｓ ａ Ｗｅｎｄｙ＇ｓ
@@gevvy6 Don’t worry there’s plenty already…
@@cloudshines812 yeah but like
I want more
@@WaterMeLoan64 uh about that…watch Venom 2
I’d willingly watch a full movie of just Eddie and Venom living as a dysfunction couple in a single body.
Based on the social media reactions that's exactly what we're gonna see in let there be carnage
Isn’t that basically what they are in the comics now?
I couldn't do it. I thought this movie was ass.
but that's the whole movie
That's the dumbest fucking thing about this movie.
Venom captures the “Holy shit this is insane what the fuck is going on” essence of the 90s’ Venom comic books (most notably Venom: Lethal Protector) perfectly
Lol wtf..
They do call themselves lethal protector in the second movie
Dude wtf are you talking about? This movie is nothing like the comics.. these movies suck. I swear some of these comments are bots or something. Every person I know I’m person agrees with me that these movies are garbage. Venom shouldn’t have been a borderline comedy just so they can try to get more ticket sales with a little kid rating. They would have been way more successful if they made it darker.. there is a reason why all these trash ass marvel movies flop
@@findawaytowin2968darker like… morbius? Wouldn’t work, Kraven looks like it’s gonna flop with edge to
@@findawaytowin2968My man, I love how you completely outed yourself as having zero fucking idea *what* the Lethal Protector and other 90s Venom comics were like.
Hint: They were goofy, insane and comedic
Is Venom a bad movie? Yes
Will I still watch it bc Tom Hardy’s love for this character is so infectious? Absolutely
Tom Hardy’s hilariously bad American accent/mannerism is what keeps me interested.
its actually kinda cool that his kid convinced him to take the role because venom is his favorite comic book character
@Fax mashall..ah?
Tom Hardy to Venom is what Ryan Reynolds is to Deadpool, and I'm fucking here for it.
I wouldn’t say “love” I’d say effort. Love is a big word
"Eddie's life does not get better in this movie. He does not get any happier, and he doesn't grow as a character."
Yeah but he's got an alien boyfriend so who's really the winner here, huh?
No one
@@argo9721 the viewer
honestly, i'd class getting an alien boyfriend (who's fuckin built) as life getting better. only cowards think otherwise. /jk
Uuuhhh… the rule 34 artists, obviously
@@JD-jz5gu ok maybe
I kinda liked Eddie being a complete wreck the whole film.
it makes sense tbh because there's no Spiderman
@@marrymejisoo3413 his whole life is a wreck, part of the movies
by far the most comics accurate part of the movie, eddie brock is a weird gremlin of a man in every medium
It took a bit but the character did grow on me
“For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9
“for ‘everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’”
Romans 10:13
Tom Hardy is an old personal friend of mine. He used to train at the local gym with my late brother (who was a professional MMA and cage fighter and fought with Katie ("Jordan") Price's ex husband Alex Reid when he was building himself up for his role in 'Bronson'.
Tom's success story is like something out of 'revenge of the nerds'. I remember him being a very quiet and retiring guy who loved comics and sci fi and vintage horror films.It's strange seeing your friends on the telly on reality TV shows but that is ramped up 500% when you see them in blockbuster movies jumping out of exploding buildings and have action figures made out of them.
It's all good though. we are so proud of Tom and all he has achieved.
Next time you see him, tell him some random guy from WV named one of his cats after him lol
@@datdankdj8264 OK👍
If you don’t mind me asking who was your brother? I’m a MMA nerd lol
@@kingt0295I put the conversation into ChatGPT and it said the brother is Mark Epstein 😁
I mean fair points but Venom admitting he’s a loser on his home planet and calling Eddie his friend is adorable
100% agree.
I actually love this movie because of how ridiculous it is
@@iainstuchbery yeah, dont go into this movie expecting a master piece, you will be diasapointed.
Go into it and just expect to have fun because its a fun movie.
@@Julian-pw5mv and I’ve heard the sequel is a lot of the same. Which in this case is wonderful.
@@AnimatedTerror thats great, fun movies are fun. (Duh)
Wifey
I’m super confused on how he manages to live in San Francisco for 6 months with no job. That place is insanely expensive.
movie logic™
Or how he stays as jacked as he is when he's supposed to he a guy barely scraping by. No normal guy with little money barely scraping for food/rent has Tom Hardy's build naturally.
The same way that Al Bundy had a decent house and raised a wife and two kids on a shit minimum wage job.It's that Hollywood movie/media magic :P
Given how Marcus pointed out how unrealistically nice as well as incompetent people are in this movie, I guess the in-universe "explanation" is that the landlord just waved his rent until Eddie got back on his feet, like any landlord would in real life. Clearly the same goes for all of the utility companies he would have to pay otherwise.
[Insert forced laugh track here.]
That or he's just whoring himself out like no tomorrow, which would also conveniently explain how he's still so fit despite seeming perpetually inebriated and how he affords to be perpetually inebriated in the first place even as cheap as some rotgut is.
@@MusicoftheDamned It is San Francisco…
I honestly wasn’t bothered by Venom changing his mind about earth so fast because he’s just an insanely impulsive creature. I feel like it’s believable that he’d realize that he can have fun running around here with Eddie and then just decide to blow up the other symbiotes because they were all dicks anyway
If you were a total dweeb who constantly got kicked around and were suddenly in a different place where you were basically an unstoppable god, it would make sense that you’d want to stay
Yeah, to be honest here, I find the idea that Venom was a loser on his planet, but on earth he can be special to be a fun twist on such a character. It really took the dark origin and said screw it. Haha.
It also makes sense when you realize venom feels all of brocks emotions
Love
Doubt
Fear
Empathy and sympathy.
He didn’t make the decision In a vacuum.
The way it's explained here is basically that venom is afraid of being bullied back home, being a loser and all
And venom saying that Eddie is the real reason why he's staying on earth
Given the context of the first answer, and how Eddie acted the entire movie
It makes complete sense on it's own
yeah he realized it was the perfect playground for him n he didn’t really fw the other symbiotes
I think my favourite thing in this film is the relationship between Eddie, Dan and Anne because of the way they handled it. It’s nice to see them get along and support each other despite a broken off relationship.
I'm surprised Cosmonaut didn't even mention the fact that Sony tried to market Venom as a love story.
I mean, de forgot it was a SONY movie. He said Marvel the entire vid
@@stiansahlstenrosvald412 well is sony forcing to enter MCU by taking spiderman as a hostague
@@FULANODETAL I hate that they’re trying to incorporate mcu spider man into the Sony verse. Mcu spider man has good movies and characters while Sony does not have a good track record with heroes so I don’t trust them with mcu spider man at all unless venom 2 changes for the better
@@drew9201 problem is mcu Spiderman is iron boy jr
After presenting it as a horror sci fi movie and even a non traditional superhero movie.
The first time I watched this film in theatres and heard the line “My legs…they were broken…and now they’re not broken…” spoken by Tom Hardy, out loud, to no one, was the moment I knew Venom was something special
I love how they portrayed the real life transition of venom being written as a villain in the comics to being written as an antihero in the comics in one simple convo between Eddie and Venom where Eddie basically says "Don't kill anybody unless they're bad guys"
Well honestly, that _is_ pretty much the difference a lot of the time. [Glances at the Punisher Trade on the shelf behind the monitor awkwardly]
it's what most of the time happens to popular villains, we can add Deadpool to the list too, man was a cold blooded murderer with psychosis probably. there are very few exceptions to this rule, say perhaps the Joker where it seems as everyone still prefers him as the bad guy he is.
i love how even then he's still a borderline villian to anyone he doesn't care about
@@saaros Deadpool never was a bad guy or even a villian. He was a anti hero in the main storyline right from the start. I think youre deeply confused by all the alternative Storylines that describe him as a psycho like deadpool kills the marvel universe etc
@@saaros I mean, anti-heroes are great, but we still need straight up bad guys every now and again.
They could have fixed some things by having Venom be the symbiote that escaped and made his way back to San Francisco by body hopping instead of Riot. You could then have the white spider logo present, the implication being that Venom was in New York for a while on his way. It also explains the trust/bond between Riot and Drake, they've been in close contact daily at the lab. That way, Venom actively wanting to save the day makes sense, he's had a lot of interaction with a huge amount of different people whereas Riot has only interacted with a guy who was routinely killing homeless people without any remorse.
As a big fan of the comics, I’m honestly pretty glad that Venom got his own story without Spider-Man. I thought it was a nice change of pace that was done well.
This movies fan base is either
“Man this piece of shit?” Or
“I love that movie”
Or both
ITS WHAT MOVIES ARE SUPPOSE TO BE
I’m both lmao
"Bofe"
I’m both simultaneously
I love the part where the kid doesn't get to ask her question, makes me laugh every time. And I feel like it is an unintentional comment on deflection and evasion from powerful people.
Tbh I think it’s just a shitty scene that tries to establish Riz Ahmed’s character as a supposed good saint
@@STRIK3RM4N if you take them at face value, a lot of scenes are pretty shitty lol
@@krazysamurai yeah, the whole chase scene was pointlessly long and cheesy, the “my legs were broken now they’re not” could go through if the narrative was on par to it, but nah
I’m pretty sure he does say that the female scientist that was with him will answer her question as he's leaving though
I’m so glad I’m not the only one that finds it so funny. At first I thought she was going to ask where the bathroom was as a punchline to follow his little speech… BUT THEN SHE NEVER GETS TO ASK HER QUESTION 😭😂😭😂
Venom, get in the rocket!
“No, we won’t let you destroy this world😡”
@@ku_teku6010 “Honey time for dinner!”
"Get in the rocket, loser. We are going to Vegas!"
@@everythingdibs344 okaaaaay!
Love ur pfp
This is a subtrope of the buddy cop movie.
The dynamic between Eddie and Venom is the main driving force.
I love it.
"I'm sorry about Venom" is one of the greatest lines ever to appear in a film. I went to see this with my brother when it came out and he absolutely lost his shit laughing when she said that. I think that every movie should contain a sombre, reflective scene at the end where one of the characters says "I'm sorry about [MOVIE TITLE]"
"I'm sorry about the Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen" Optimus Prime to Barrack Obama
"I'm sorry about Doctor Strange : multiverse of madness". Yeah makes sense
I'm sorry about The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King 😔
Jack Sparrow to Barbosa “I’m sorry about Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides.” 😩
@@Minotaur256 Aren't we all
It would be amazing if the sequel, which is named "Let there be carnage", doesn't have a single drop of blood.
It won't be. They already released a clip with carnage fighting against cops and it doesn't show any single drop of blood in it
You guys missed the joke
You’re out of your mind if you think they’ll make anything Spider-Man related Rated-R
its rated pg-13 i just found out 😢 its gonna be just as if not a tiny bit less limmited than venom
@@MegaDean9 there's more blood in Disney marvel movies lmao
"And he's wearing a fucking Ronald McDonald wig." I died.
My haters throw rocks at me and IT hurts. I hope they don't throw The Rock at me because I like him as an actor. GAGAGAGAGA!!! I am funny!!! I am the funniest RUclipsr EVAH! Please agree, dear natt
thank god they got rid of it in the new movie
i'm gonna see it tomorrow, so hopefully it's good
“There will be carnage” is like a line The Boys or something would use to mock this kind of film, used seriously
Rest in Peace
@@knowledgeanddefense1054 it’s not serious lol
11:55 a billionaire having a private mercenary army with explosive attack drones turned out to be not so far fetched 😭
I feel like you can tell from Tom Hardy´s performance that he was the only person that knew what kind of movie it was. And from what Andy Serkis has been saying in interviews, he also understands what kind of movie the sequel should be, a straight up goofy action sci-fi flick that doesn´t make sense at all but it´s fun to watch.
Shiii F the critic's that's all the reason's you said is why I'm watching it lol Comedy/Fights/Power's people whine too much lol "oH tHe CgI" what they expect a giant ass goo man suit swinging around lol
and exactly what the comic book character called Venom deserves, this is straight up bullshit you described a sitcom.
@@norrin_falk what you want a serious villain Venom? He's an anti hero with a sick sense of humour & with jokes comes comedy what you expect from a comic character that literally says "Eye's, Lung's, Pancreas! So many snacks so little Time!!!" Movie Venom- "We should be snacking on bad guys!!!" You must be thinking of Carnage maybe
@@sleepingshaq2541 I expect not being a fucking goofball, are you reading yourself? The character is an anti-hero but how does that immediately mean he cracks jokes? Did you read ANY comics with him? When he says that line he''s dead fucking serious, Venom does NOT crack jokes 24/7 and does not give cooking and relationship tips and you just gave away that you never read a single comic with him in it.
Sure, that's one option. They also could have made a GOOD goofy action sci-fi flick though
This video just explained exactly why I fucking love this movie
Facts
Same
Init
Honestly, it’s a fucking dumb, stupid movie and I really love it
I didn't even see it
Honestly, this movie is so goddamn fun to watch I don't even care.
Exactly sometimes movie critics are to serious lol just enjoy the movie 🍿
There's a difference between objective quality and enjoyability. Venom is very enjoyable.
I don't want this to be an attack on any critic. Something that's a 10/10 for me could be a 0/10 for someone else. For example, I love the Amazing Spider-Man Franchise, I think both movies are great. But I don't like the Raimi SM movies. I've seen so many people going completely off the rails about how "Your opinion is invalid" like dude, It's an opinion not a fact.
@@BayHarborGulper yeah enjoy it, you go my man.
@@BayHarborGulper holy shit man the sam raimi films are horrible. It’s basically a parody movie, yet the fans are completely rabid and attack anyone who criticises the film
Edit: my response to the clown complaining about the venom movies below
“Venom was MORE goofy in the comics. In the movie he wasn’t even that goofy and the movie wasn’t even very comical.
In the comics he tries to get revenge on Peter Parker by pretending to be a hotdog stand and giving him the wrong ketchup sauce for his hotdog. That is a million times more goofy than anything venom did in the movie.
You’re blatantly exaggerating to an absurd degree how comedic the movie way to justify a ridiculous unreasonable bias against the film.
Most of all your claims are unsubstantiated and just baseless complaints. Oh the dialogue was bad? No elaboration, no examples. Oh the plot had too many holes? No elaboration, no examples. Cut the shit, you’re just whining about a movie with no real reasons and your only excuses are unfair exaggerations of the film”
My favorite part is the fact that they mispronounced "simbiote" during filming, got brutally made fun of after the trailers dropped, and just very obviously overdubbed the final cut of the movie to correct it without reshooting any of the scenes.
For anyone who doesn't know, rewatch the trailers. They pronounce it "sim-bye-oat" and it's incredible.
The power of peer pressure my friend
It makes you wonder how the actors Hardy, Slate the director, camera operators, sound techs, lighting people, grips, extras, script supervisor, continuity supervisor, producers on set, the editors of the movie/trailer etc etc *all* miss this?
That’s not how it’s pronounced but it’s not so different that it’d be a big deal
"I just don't think movie characters freak out appropriately when they see scary stuff."
I agree with this. Personally, I'd stumble, crawl away and ugly cry aimlessly - alternatively, I'd snap and pray to a god for my continued existence.
I also hate when characters overreact to talking animals like they've never seen a cartoon in their lives.
That statement reminds me of the Tenet protagonist first gets told about a world ending time reversing event and has zero emotion whatsoever.
@@KaiKrimson56 bruh what, so because you’ve seen a fake, animated cartoon, you shouldn’t be surprised if that happens in real life lmao. Damn imma start running off cliffs hoping if I just don’t realize I’m going off the cliff I can kinda float until I look down and realize
@@nathanielperry2714 you are not very bright are you?
@@astronova6150 I mean, I dont think I radiate that much light, maybe there's a switch I haven't found yet idk
I love the Pitch Meeting description of the final fight:
"It's gonna be like watching two people wearing garbage bags fighting by candlelight!"
Yeah even as someone who liked Venom, the final fight was absolute crap, watching a black blob and a gray blob beat each other up in the nighttime is super hard to see
Totally agree. And I really enjoy the flick
15:23 Venom is a fucking CRYSTAL GEM if you stop to think about it
gonna see him singing a we are a crystal gem soon
i love how eddy just looks like shit the entire movie. no matter what he is sweating heavily from every pore in his body
Agreed. Straight up greasy.
Seriously this guy is sticky as fuck
what about your airfryers tho?
“It’s like the whole movie we’re just following a weird drunk idiot.”
You know what, that is very accurate and the exact kind of himbo superhero energy I want.
If you haven't seen Hancock, you should.
Read any hawkeye comic its amazing
In a way it makes it different and fresh, love to see a loser underdog stepping into the spotlight for a change
@@rhetiq9989 Spider-Man is kinda a loser so there’s that
Yeah I mean outside of his journalism skills that's kinda Eddie Brock in a nutshell
One thing I absolutely adore about Venom's design in this movie is how they gave him white veins that mimic the spider symbol from the comics. It's amazing how far they went to keep Venom's iconic look even though they couldn't include Spiderman.
false. he had that symbol BEFORE he met spiderman, and the klyntarian god knull wears it too. it's a dragon that just LOOKS like a spider
@@whatsyourpoint5417 yeah but come on man the designers knew what they were doing
@@whatsyourpoint5417 Lol what? Venom was created before Knull was ever a thought. In the comics, its literally the same symbiote Spiderman got rid of. Venom was just evil spiderman, thats why he had the symbol.
They will give him the spider symbol too, after meeting with spiderman
@@istaykoo yes, but they retconned that, so they could have included it
I really think venom films are complete trash. There's just nothing to enjoy here. People say watch like a dumb enjoyable film but it's still trash. Aquaman is a much better film in this aspect
This movie is literally a B-movie with an A-movie budget. It’s aware of it, plays it straight and embraces it. Watching it like it’s anything more and then either loving or hating it (there doesn’t really seem to be a middle ground) is completely on the viewer. To some it’s bad, to others it’s great. I’m in the great category.
This is a weirdly good description
Still much better than the new Spider-Man movies, Degrassi/Riverdale level drama stitched with jokes 24/7 by every character except Spider-Man, yeah that's how I wanna relive the pages!
@@OoToxiToxioO I'm sorry, but no. They may not be what some fans expect from Spider-Man, but they're still better made than this film.
wrong answer, 0/10
@@ZuckerbergsAi Its all just opinions, chill out
Bruh Tom Hardy carried this movie on his back he's so balls to the wall insane it's hilarious
Theres nothing for him to carry lol
You know, sometimes I feel like we need more movies like venom that are just dumb schlock that's very entertaining. I do enjoy more serious works of art, but i also love movies like Venom.
I mean most super hero movies have all been that except save for a handful or stronger ones
Actually we need the opposite
when the transformer movies came out y’all bitched and moaned about it but when a bad movie with venom comes out y’all go on here and say “you know what? we need more movies like this”
@@KingofKrazee Wow your opinion is so cool and different, lets go rewatch every tarentino movie daily together
@@luisnavarro5298 Exactly. Which is why I hate promoting so bad it's good movies. It makes film makers lazy.
“Its like we are following around a drunk idiot” And that is exactly why i love it
I mean, if you take this movie to be a romantic sci-fi comedy between Eddie and the symbiote, Venom's reasons for staying on Earth suddenly make a lot more sense.
Side note: the symbiote is in complete control when it takes over its host's body - you can tell by the internal struggle Eddie gives when Venom is in control. So like. That heavy tongue action Venom gave Eddie?? That was 100% the symbiote lol. There's no way that's the only way to transfer to a new host.
omfg I kinda love it that they just turn into a throuple
I'd stay in another planet for Tom Hardy 🥵
At 14:54 Riot changes hosts too without giving the new person a kiss.
So yeah venom is defenitly "into" eddy
I love this goofy ass movie.
Same
It makes no god damn sense it's amazing
If this was mcu people wouldn’t judge it as hard.
@@AYYYLMAOOOOO probably because he would be expecting it
@@AYYYLMAOOOOO No movie in the MCU is as bad as this.
Even though it was bad i still ended up really liking it. The relationship between tom hardy and venom were the best parts in the movie imo plus the goofy nature of it all
Same
The only good parts tho
@@valenesco45 Wrong.
@@valenesco45 Also that's still like more than half the story.
@@valenesco45 yeah ig. The villain was pretty shitty. But i really did like the goofy nature
This is the perfect example of, "this is so bad that it's good"
it's so wild to me that Upgrade and Venom came out within a few months of each other and had similar stories/concepts, a similar action scene, and similar-looking actors playing their main characters
And both were great fun movies
@@jmanwild87 No venom was awful
@@canaryguycrazy7729 that's your opinion. My own is that venom was a good turn your brain off flick carried by Tom Hardy. Upgrade is also fantastic
@@canaryguycrazy7729 so do you think most of the Marvel movies are awful too?
@@arcanum3882 Some of them are pretty great but the vast majority of them feel very Cookie cutter and generic the last superhero movie I watched in theaters was the far from home and even then I thought it was just ok. But I'd rather watch that movie ten times over then ever having to rewatch venom
In this age of extreme caution, soulless blandness and every movie being focus tested to within an inch of its life, the art of the good bad blockbuster is sadly dying out. I'm grateful to movies like Venom for holding the torch. If only it had an R rating.
Netflix movies will eventually fill this niche for the streaming era.
Gotta love them, cant get enough of these b- movies
Honestly I don’t think it really needed an r rating
The thing with Venom is, its atleast not bland. Its an ugly and hallarious mess. The perfect blockbuster.
@@buihelgason it’s not a mess
every point he makes is valid, but for me venom doesn't need to be good. it's so dumb and crazy i have a blast every time
Absolutely agree with you. Not every movie, especially not every superhero movie, has to take itself seriously. Sometimes you just want to watch something dumb and crazy, and there is nothing bad with it
I just need a venom and eddie slice of life romcom TV show because they were just so fucking fun to watch
Its the only superhero movie after the Raimi Spider-Man ones that i have rewatched, and plan to continue rewatching as well. I like a movie thats just fun, and not mostly just to keep up with current timeline events.
@@SilverMontegiu but here is just one little thing you are missing.
EVERY superhero movie nowadays is cheesy, silly, forced, and dumb.
We need more serious superhero movies that (gasp) stick to the scourge material.
Well, that's just a matter of opinion, I guess, but I think that seriousness and superhero genre just do not mix together well. The only examples of actually good serious superhero movies that I can think of are Nolan's Batman trilogy and The Watchmen (Although the latter, imho, is really pretentious and boring). Everything else is just as dumb as Venom, if not more so
2:24 - 2:50 Both the Moon Knight TV series and the Venom movies seem to share the same exact traits and structure, and yet complete opposites at the same time: the former can be funny and serious when the scenes demand them while the latter can be funny and serious AT ANY RANDOM MOMENTS.
Gotta be honest, his accent isn’t bad. There are people who sound exactly like that.
I never knew he was making an accent till I saw this video.
@@SI0AX same
He was wobbly throughout the movie
It's like he's depressed and mentally tired because he can not get drugs anymore
And when he said that line "climbing a tree super, super fast"
I was cringing pretty hard and just wanted him to fucking speak up like raise the damn voice and speak clearly
@@HeresVasilias SHUT UP
@@thepunisher4138 lmao NO
Marvel's Elon Musk would DEFINITELY have explosive drones.
Marvel’s Elon Musk=Tony Stark
Explosive Drones≈Drones from Far From Home
@@jonathanperkins69 Tony Stark doesn't have child slaves in mines so don't compare him lol
elon musk is aint a guiness their engineer is the genius behind his work
But no security cameras lol
@@themalaysiandude3903 Elon musk is considered one of the smartest people alive...
The one good thing about the movie is Eddie and venom chemistry
I hated that too. The only thing I liked about this movie is that they got Venoms design down right. But man the CGI gets unbearable at a certain point.
@@SuperMurray2009 why did you hate it I thought it was cool
@@abdullahamr9941 Bad Acting Is one. What's funny is I think Ahmed and Hardy have done spectacular acting in the past but their acting is unbelievable bad and Cosmonaut summed it up perfectly. Hardy is trying to hard to sound like a NY Meathead and Ahmed is just monotone as fuck.
Also the story is just bad. It has no clear stakes or direction. It doesn't set up what story I'm supposed to be invested in good enough at all. The story our protagonist is engaged in doesn't interest me in the slightest. Everything is just thrown at Eddie so it's hard to feel invested.
Also the CGI is terrible and the action is terrible. If the plot is gonna be nonsensical and stupid then at least give me good action. But I couldn't get that either. The movie scenes are heavily cut to oblivion to hide the gore and the CGI is extremely distracting because of how bad it is.
@Fax "ye. wow" shut up
@@SuperMurray2009 the CGI was great, its better than what you and I can make, the artist did their best with it, try watching Canadian lads video about it where he points out art details in Venom, its really interesting.
I fucking hate those discovering weird alien human reacts movie screams. Thank you for articulating that, I never knew exactly how to relay how much those scenes annoy me.
“Venom get in the rocket” gives off the same vibes as “shinji get in the robot”
I would like to believe that was on purpose
"Yo, Shinji get in the robot! Your dad loves (?) You get in the robot!"
Or Nebby get in the bag.
"Jacob keep your shirt oon."
Kris get the banana
“Yes even this guy survives the same beat down Patrick Star get” BRUH LOLOL
"Everyone in this movie is just so nice, and just so stupid" I think that's why a lot of people actually love it. Venom 2018 is just a shitshow of himbos stumbling around and you'd be surprised how many people are into that. Everything else these days takes itself so seriously, (even the plot of Venom 2018 was not immune and that's one of it's worst qualities) maybe we *want* a few movies where literally everyone, from the protags to the villains to the side characters are all just so hilariously bad at what they do. It's a modern era clown show.
Movie theaters showing a movie like this are the new circus tent. Except instead of being entertained by abused animals, we're going into this new tent to see a bunch of idiots set themselves on fire while riding unicycles, but it's all with a wink and a smile because everyone involved is just so good natured.
Honestly this is an incredible analysis
I like how If they made deadpool a serious film everyone would've hated it but when they transform the Venom franchise into a stupid and badly written comedy everyone is ok because haha funny joke like movie 😀
@@simonenot5839 i don't think that's true. Deadpool has dozens of "serious" storylines in the comics that people like a lot. and if done well in a movie, people will like it much as the other films, if not more
@@simonenot5839 deadpool did have some serious moment, and its why the comedy makes it even better. where venom is just a shit show. people only like it because its marvel. if u see this type of shit in other movie, you'll have critics shitting on it. shit, hellboy was a shit show but didn't recieve the "i love it because its fun and stupid".
There is obviously a way to pull off a comedy better than marvel did with Venom. Hell, for a change they could make a movie that actually had a purpose, but instead they turn a character whose main purpose is Spiderman's foil and nemesis into an anti-hero. Funny anti-hero this, funny anti-hero that. Marvel just tried to recreate the humour that made Deadpool stand out and it just isn't working. Venom feels like a sloppy movie, and justifying amy other opinion is like calling The Room a great movie cause you laughed at it ironically, people give it that treatment cause Marvel is an established firm, and people chew on whatever mediocre film they push.
The scream trope annoys me, but the one in the grinch actually made me laugh because Jim carry screams so humorously. It’s never made me laugh any other time, and I was legitimately surprised that it got me.
I quite like Venom, UNIRONICALLY
Venom looks much better in this version than in Spider-Man 3, Riot and Carlton Drake are somewhat interesting villains, and I wouldn’t expect Eddie to look like some shirtless badass when he’s bonded with an alien that’s actively KILLING HIM, so I like the fact that he looks sick
Also, his character is depressed, his fiancé left him, he lost the one job he’d ever wanted and he’s forced to live in a small and shitty apartment
It’s fun
I agree with everything you just said EXCEPT about the venom design. The spider-man 3 one looks like a straight up nightmarish alien, while Venom venom just looks like goop.
@@HouseWrennt I think they meant body-wise. Venom in its own movie looks more accurate when it becomes full body, whereas Spider-Man 3 venom just looks like the black Spider-Man suit with a different face.
spiderman 3 design is better
@@arkhamjedi4472 Your objectively wrong.
@@aldairmartinez5001 I mean for a older movie spider man 3 venom looks very good and the fight scenes with venom look better imo
12:10
“Why would Marvel Elon Musk have drones?”
Why does Real Life Elon Musk have a flamethrower?
"Flamethrower"
I absolutely would not put it past Musk or Jeff Bezos to have mercenary armies and fleets of attack drones. I mean, when you're that rich, who the fuck is going to stop you?
"Launch the drones!"
@@LordMangudai exactly lol Elon probably has a deal to make stuff with the Army, and Zuck prolly got Area 51 on lockdown. These guys are a at least half as powerful as the government.
12:37 Venom retracted himself into Eddy's body when he hit the fire which clearly shows his vulnerability to fire. And about that lab escape scene, Eddy was too dissolved into escaping people who will kill him so he definitely didn't have time to question what insane stunts and moves he pull off just like a normal person wouldn't. That is just my opinion
I agree with the first part but not with the seconds. You have get amnesia to forget that kind of crap.
@@ChadKakashi not at all, I know that the scales are much higher but when people are under much pressure, and there are tons of adrenaline flowing through their body, they kinda forget anything else besides their main objective, in Eddie's case it was, "I gotta run for my life, those sons of a bitches are going to kill me!!", While I do agree that he completely forgetting everything that happened is stupid, I can't agree with the escape scene itself is stupid, plus, it would really kill the pace of the movie if Eddie just said out loud to the audience, "holy shit, how did I do that?! I feel so much stronger"
@@pepekovallin i never said the scene was or wasn’t stupid. I said him forgetting his own supernatural feats is stupid.
Was I drunk when writing this, the hell?
@@ChadKakashi except he didn't forget, he talked about it later in the movie, asking the doctor or someone if a parasite would be able to make someone able to do crazy feats like climb really tall trees
Couldn't stand the Venom.movies. Really wish that they had gone with a serious and very dark tone. A rated R horror movie would have been better. A body horror movie would have been great.
I cannot believe “On my planet, im kind of a loser” is an actual line in this fucking movie…
If you think that’s bad, venom 2 is full of cringe lines
whats wrong with the line?
@@johnymustacio W-WDYM “what’s wrong with” IS IT NOT CLEAR?
@@angryboi595 bro stuttered through text
@@angryboi595 just say it mf
I need a part 2 on the sequel asap
it was even worse man😔
@@imirkksome2476 it was better imo
@@imirkksome2476 no bud
@@imirkksome2476 absolutely not wtf?
@@CrazySuperJEBUS my bad, it was equally as mid. it had horrible writing lmao.
As a Raimi Spiderman fan, this movie is *chefs kiss*, perfectly goofy
Has none of that Raimi charm though
@@cymraegpunk1420 true but it has its own sort of thing going on, nothing close to rami, but still refreshing in modern day superhero movies.
In terms of movie tone,this flicks Venom seems like he would come from the world of the Andrew Garfield version of Spiderman.
Theres humor in the movie,but it's too 'adult' to take place in Tobey Mcguire or Tom Hollands spiderverse
Seriously there’s like nothing even close to that Raimi charm. Kind of odd to bring it up.
@@yowatchie It’s different to the Raimi movies but it’s still goofy as Hell
You said a few things: that Eddie is stumbling around like he's drunk the while movie, you expected Venom to be fueled by the build up of emotion in Eddie's downward spiralling life, and that Venom's motivations are all over the place. Perhaps they are all connected, though. Venom's odd motivations are being fueled by... whatever is going on with Eddie... and he has become as much of a mess as Eddie is.
Just a thought. I didn't know if shine else had mentioned.
Jesus Christ died for your sins repent and believe the Gospel. For God so loved the world he gave his only Begotten Son so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life -John 3:16
Same here, a fun movie is a fun movie glad someone else enjoys it
Same, the shit was kinda wack and funny for some wack ass reasons and I loved it
This movie is COMEDY GOLD
Same
same
"Venom just doesn't want to go home because he's afraid of being bullied by his friends..."
Tell me thats not some what cute he turned from goo monster to a puppy after doin somethin bad.
Venom is so relatable for an alien goo monster
That's not some what cute
"He doesn't even have a camera! He's using his I-phone!"
Everybody with a degree in photography
The whole movie is Tom Hardy doing his best Charlie Day impression.
Venom is a great "This is bad, and that's a good thing!" movie
Venom: I’m bad, and that’s good, I’ll never be good and that’s not bad, there’s no one I’d rather be, than *me*
@@IcyDiamond da fuq? Godzilla had a stroke and fucking died reading that
@@feister2869 you never watched wreck it ralph?
@@feister2869 wtf godzilla knows how to read???
@@feister2869 bro I had a stroke trying to come up with a reason to why you said Godzilla
I can’t lie, this movie was SO much fun to watch. Even if it was kind of a mess, I kind of loved it!
the gap between mine and Marcus's expectations of people's competency at their job got me feeling some type of way
i loved the venom movies because of how realistic it is. He doesn't automatically gain six pack and huge pecs, personal problems like paying rent automatically solved. intead, he's still troubled, but with this symbiote in him. Still trying to get his shit together, with more responsibilities.
The MCU/superhero movies in general really over use the “long pause after a joke” type moment, that’s mainly because every character is constantly throwing out one liners.
I know, I personally find it irritating. Most of their jokes aren’t even that funny…
@@stormtraitor6545 what’s even worse is people endlessly quote them or say shit like “truly brilliant dialogue”
This isn’t the mcu
@@Agencyagent34 go back to watching shitty DC movies
@@stormtraitor6545 big words coming from star Wars fanboys
My favorite plot contradiction that you didn't mentioned is that the last fight takes place on a rocket launching site, and as we learned earlier Symbiotes don't like high sounds, when a plain flew like 200m over Venom he instantaneously hid and fall from a building, but when a freaking rocket is starting it has no effect whatsoever on Riot and venom XD
It’s based on pitch, not volume.
@@AfromanRants So, Venom and other Symbiotes can go to metal concerts?
@@darlalathan6143 Depends if it’s Black Metal or Glam Metal.
@@AfromanRants Both are equally loud, though Black Metal is more likely to have an orchestra backing up the band, lol.
@@darlalathan6143 Again, it’s *not based on volume,* it’s *based on pitch!*
“And creates a fetish that I didn’t even know I had”
Lmao I laughed so hard at this
8:43 no but actually he is wasted. Eddie is constantly wasted through the whole movie. The worst parts are when he's on heroin. Not even kidding, it's a phenomenal performance.... in the wrong movie.
The "Grab me that specimen" line was fucking perfect
Ok.
“oH EDDIE, San Francisco is so beautiful.” Fucking love that line. Great video, cheers.
Best part was when Eddie and Venom started singing A Whole New World together on the rooftop
...I never realized that was Mona Lisa Saperstein. I feel dumb now
olha ele ai
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Venom without Spiderman is like a cereal without milk
I have a soft spot for the Venom movie; as someone who’s been waiting to see Venom done justice in live action, I was pleasantly surprised with Tom Hardy’s portrayal, especially with his interactions with the symbiote throughout the entire movie. It may not be a masterpiece, but I think it really was an entertaining movie simply for Eddie and Venom’s chemistry alone. When it comes to the rating, I feel like the movie could’ve done much more fan service being rated R though I imagine it was made PG-13 because of the fact that the MCU might’ve inevitably wanted to get their hands on this iteration of the character for their cinematic universe. By now, I’ve seen this movie about 5 times and I never regret watching because of how fun it is to see my favorite Marcel character behave humorously and kick ass.
Spoiler:
Hopefully, with Venom being introduced into the MCU in Venom 2, he’ll get to have a more comic-accurate character development involving Spider-man. Also, it would be interesting to see a Venom movie written by one of the MCU’s better directors, like the Russo brothers for example.
Spoiler:
Him licking Tom Holland on the tv screen absolutely fucking slayed me 🤣
I kinda liked the idea of the reason Eddie live in San Francisco I’d cause that version of Parker humiliated Eddie, and he hit a downward spiral till he met Anne.
Yeah Marvel wanted absolutely nothing to do with Venom and got strong armed by Sony into involving this version in the MCU under the premise of allowing Marvel Studios to keep using Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. This film was PG 13 due to Sony’s hoping one day they’d be able to mix their Spider-Man characters with the MCU and piggy back off their success which has all come to fruition I guess lol
@@YungLanxx good for them honestly. Disney is really going overboard with this shit
@@tgiacin435 overboard with what exactly?
This movie convinced me that being the host of Venom is like being mildly high on MDMA all the time cause that is exactly how Eddie Brock acts like the whole movie.
Nah man that's just how Tom Hardy usually acts
@@shade_zz1585 tom hardy
@@Joanbueller007 fuck, lol sorry
Me: "This movie sounds terrible."
Also me: "I kinda want to watch this movie."
its a fun, bizarre mess
This is the correct response
It's fun watch it
Please don't base your willingness to see a movie off of movie reviews
Especially ones made by people who lie about the movie.
Ex. This video, Everything Wrong With,
@@HollowRangiku but...I said I want to watch it.
I'm not sure what your point is
I love that the drones don't shoot bullets they just ram into things.
That Scream-scream trope is similar to the kinda recent, frequent & jokey “I don’t know what that means” response to complicated exposition.
"speak english, doc!"
It’s even worse when what they say isn’t even that complicated and they ask what it meant anyways
Apparently I respond to complicated exposition seven times a day.
Coincidence, I just watched it yesterday. I didn’t mind it so much, but it’s pretty clear they went out the way to make this rated PG-13. But I do give credit for making this “Venom-verse” and character work without any mention of Spider-Man.
Partially why i hate it. Should have been rated r
My suspicion is aside from wider target audience, the PG is here so that they can easily integrate Venom into the Spidey universe at some point and adjust with their tone and style
Tom Hardy made this movie absolutely hilarious, I genuinely can't wait for the sequel
“Sir-*licks lips*-grab me that specimen” 😂
This thought just occurred to me, why hasn’t cosmonaut ever done any X-men reviews? Like all of them ranked or something? It’d even be good for why they suck with the exception of some? Idk, just spitballing
Who knows tbh
Hopefully he’ll do it this Christmas!
@@diablojim worst super hero movies featuring Dark Phoenix, Origins Wolverine and The Last stand.
@@rsotuyo15 Yea lmao
Probably saving that for a different worst super heros video, he shows xmen origins often with this series so yk-