It really isn't overlooked. Friend tried the deck and really tried to make it work. But you need to open specific cards to union twice by T2 which is horrendously rng dependent and your z deck is only extras
@@TheLookoutDBS me too! I was a big Duel Masters guy once upon a time and found DBS. DBS Masters blows Duel Masters out of the water. I have no locals and was curious if there is a discord for any webcam events
Future support or not, SS4 Gogeta strikes me as a deck that REALLY needs to good build. It's a deck all about ratios and how to set them up. The cards read crazy and when you do get them to work, it feels unstoppable, but the problem is that it's very susceptible to bricking because you need a good combo of good yellow defensive tools and multi-color cards to trigger your effects. If you get it working, from my experience, there's no deck that feels as oppressive as this (especially with the ramp from pan), but it's just so easy for it to flop. I can definitely see someone making a build for the deck that breaks it into the meta. Hand control still destroys it lol.
Interesting I tried gogeta with all colours and didn't brick at all and had quiet a huge hand size (mainly because of offering) But as you mentioned it struggles to kill the opponent
I tested by build an thought the exact same. I had huge hands through offering and in using revive from the sr Vegeta an other draw parts. For struggling to kill i added in some cards and ratios as win cons like the extra that makes 1 attack un negateable. I usaly give the card to a milti strike gogeta from an old set that i added to the deck.
I think in the case of ss4 gogeta Bandai is just setting him up, we can argue that the leader is very strong, but just as you said, the core doesn’t give enough push/incentive to run it over other multi color strats, I feel like in the next coming sets this deck will get much more support putting it into the meta satus, kinda like how they supported syn throughout the UW series
While I don't think that he will get support in the same way as Syn did in the UW series, I think he'll be more like SS4 Bardock with support. Random TPs, random support cards scattered across sets, maybe some anni box stuff. SS4 Bardock got a ton of support over the years before it became good, I can see the same happen to this Gogeta, maybe sooner if they really want to push it :D
Am i crazy or the activation condition for trunks' early awakening condition doesnt exist? there is no "Vegeta, Rescuing a Son", only "SS Vegeta, Rescuing a Son" right?
Ok pls tell me how buu is not tier 1 or at least 2? Bule as a color can easily protect itself for turn 4 where buu just turn into topku from fw... and we all know how is that went. Anyway list is looking great but im really not sure that buu is not going to up to the list. One of my friend build it and he is just destroyed every single deck i played against him.
I did tell you in the video 😅 At least from my testing, it just kindda runs out of gas at some point (mostly runs out of hand size and then the struggle begins). I could always be playing it wrong ofc but that's what I've found. I might be wrong :)
@@TheLookoutDBS yeah i understand it but still :D my friend build it like non other, i dont want to spoiler the spice just yet, im sure others will find it too.
Don’t forget jhés humain and can do mistakes. For exemple for the BT24 archetype tierlist, he put Tapion on local tier and Tapion is the current best blue deck. Maybe same case with Buu
I must have been drunk then because I went over the video and I said how Tapion is insane...then places him into rogue tier 🤣 I did put him in tier 1 on the actual metagame tierlist 😂
@@TheLookoutDBS ahahaa. Not a negative comment btw, just saying that predictions are sometimes hard to do because not enough testing and all. In that case, for prediction you put tapion in rogue because it was still not there. Then it appears it was top 5 decks and best blue deck on your updated bt24 tierlist hehe.
There is one very neat interaction which makes the deck much better :) It won't be tier 1 ofc. I recommend trying Trunks, if you haven't done so yet. It looks awful on paper but in practice it is much better :D
Boujack archetype i ok at least. Definetly not tier 1. I would say it's around as good as buu. Also nuova is way worse than than gotenks or vegito since his power (unless for now) only works with oceanus and nuova cards, he can't play naturon nor eis by comboing DBS - literally no reason to play him.
Eeeyyy BT25 meta let's go!
Gotenks is high key overlooked
It really isn't overlooked. Friend tried the deck and really tried to make it work. But you need to open specific cards to union twice by T2 which is horrendously rng dependent and your z deck is only extras
Your videos have giving me faith that DBS Masters is still here and not going anywhere
Hey, happy to hear that! This is the best game in the world imo and I'm hyped for what the future holds :D
@@TheLookoutDBS me too! I was a big Duel Masters guy once upon a time and found DBS. DBS Masters blows Duel Masters out of the water. I have no locals and was curious if there is a discord for any webcam events
Let’s goo! Been a bit since I’ve watched your videos so I gotta catch up 😅
Haha glad to have you here again! :D This new set is pure fire!
Future support or not, SS4 Gogeta strikes me as a deck that REALLY needs to good build. It's a deck all about ratios and how to set them up. The cards read crazy and when you do get them to work, it feels unstoppable, but the problem is that it's very susceptible to bricking because you need a good combo of good yellow defensive tools and multi-color cards to trigger your effects. If you get it working, from my experience, there's no deck that feels as oppressive as this (especially with the ramp from pan), but it's just so easy for it to flop. I can definitely see someone making a build for the deck that breaks it into the meta.
Hand control still destroys it lol.
Blue buu disappoints me that they didnt learn their lesson from the terrible super 17 deck that did the same thing with 3 z leaders
Trust me, just ignore the Z-leaders except for the Kid Buu one
Interesting I tried gogeta with all colours and didn't brick at all and had quiet a huge hand size (mainly because of offering)
But as you mentioned it struggles to kill the opponent
I tested by build an thought the exact same. I had huge hands through offering and in using revive from the sr Vegeta an other draw parts. For struggling to kill i added in some cards and ratios as win cons like the extra that makes 1 attack un negateable. I usaly give the card to a milti strike gogeta from an old set that i added to the deck.
I think in the case of ss4 gogeta Bandai is just setting him up, we can argue that the leader is very strong, but just as you said, the core doesn’t give enough push/incentive to run it over other multi color strats, I feel like in the next coming sets this deck will get much more support putting it into the meta satus, kinda like how they supported syn throughout the UW series
While I don't think that he will get support in the same way as Syn did in the UW series, I think he'll be more like SS4 Bardock with support. Random TPs, random support cards scattered across sets, maybe some anni box stuff. SS4 Bardock got a ton of support over the years before it became good, I can see the same happen to this Gogeta, maybe sooner if they really want to push it :D
@@TheLookoutDBS yes I definitely agree, either Way I don’t think this is the last of this deck for sure
Am i crazy or the activation condition for trunks' early awakening condition doesnt exist? there is no "Vegeta, Rescuing a Son", only "SS Vegeta, Rescuing a Son" right?
But where is the 9th leader(except PR)? I was hoping for black shenron (since we got 8/9 SLR)
That was a website typo, I guess
What discord is the locals on
Ok pls tell me how buu is not tier 1 or at least 2? Bule as a color can easily protect itself for turn 4 where buu just turn into topku from fw... and we all know how is that went.
Anyway list is looking great but im really not sure that buu is not going to up to the list. One of my friend build it and he is just destroyed every single deck i played against him.
I did tell you in the video 😅
At least from my testing, it just kindda runs out of gas at some point (mostly runs out of hand size and then the struggle begins). I could always be playing it wrong ofc but that's what I've found. I might be wrong :)
@@TheLookoutDBS yeah i understand it but still :D my friend build it like non other, i dont want to spoiler the spice just yet, im sure others will find it too.
Don’t forget jhés humain and can do mistakes. For exemple for the BT24 archetype tierlist, he put Tapion on local tier and Tapion is the current best blue deck. Maybe same case with Buu
I must have been drunk then because I went over the video and I said how Tapion is insane...then places him into rogue tier 🤣 I did put him in tier 1 on the actual metagame tierlist 😂
@@TheLookoutDBS ahahaa. Not a negative comment btw, just saying that predictions are sometimes hard to do because not enough testing and all. In that case, for prediction you put tapion in rogue because it was still not there. Then it appears it was top 5 decks and best blue deck on your updated bt24 tierlist hehe.
Is that hidden spice for trunks really that crazy or are you gassing it up too much?
There is one very neat interaction which makes the deck much better :) It won't be tier 1 ofc.
I recommend trying Trunks, if you haven't done so yet. It looks awful on paper but in practice it is much better :D
@@TheLookoutDBS I am a green main so I will be trying him out
Trunks decklist?
WOW I was kind of close, but never considered King P as Towa Token bro. The tier list I did on my video would look the same but kinder lmao.
I can see bunny girl getting hit set 26. Not now, they would want to this deck to shine. Imo
Yea probably but I think the deck will survive the Bunny Girl ban :)
i think before banning bulma they will errata ac main to 1 energy as it should be from the begining. They didn't learn from icarus.
God, I wish they would unban the old KP stuff...
uffff if only :D
Boujack archetype i ok at least. Definetly not tier 1. I would say it's around as good as buu. Also nuova is way worse than than gotenks or vegito since his power (unless for now) only works with oceanus and nuova cards, he can't play naturon nor eis by comboing DBS - literally no reason to play him.