Ohuhu Bleed-Proof Marker Pad: Truth, Lies, & Omissions
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Everyone loves Ohuhu's newest Marker Pad... Really? Let's get real about this severe limitations of this paper and the truth, lies, and omissions from the marker "experts" recommending it.
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Gratefully Appreciated Amy Thank you sharing your decades of knowledge and warnings of "bad" garbage art materials. $20 is still $20 and I personally don't want to be throwing any of my money into the trash. ❤
„4 out of 5 dentists can tell that this is drawing paper“ 😂 I‘m dying lmao. Love it
We Trident Gum fans need to stick together.
“I think it’s complete crap” 😂😂😂 Don’t sugar coat it Amy!
Thanks Nancy, you made me splort my iced tea. Love ya.
I appreciate your candid, honest, and humorous review. I had no idea this Ohuhu marker paper existed or that it's blowing up the internet. Yes, I'm old. Not old enough to be retired. I'm not a social media luddite or magpie. Just someone with limited creative time and protective of it for that reason. I am grateful that you are willing to take your time to save some of mine. Thanks!
That's music to my ears, glad to have helped! Your time is valuable and any hobby time should be spent enjoyably, not fighting with bad paper.
I have the Ohuhu Marker Pad sketchbook (the spiral bound one) and the paper is almost white (barely gray) and very smooth. Yes, I do wish there could be more tooth like the Ohuhu Mixed Media sketchbook (which is my all-time favorite sketchbook) but for a sketchbook that doesn’t bleed with markers, I’m pretty happy. I’ve used Crescent Rendr in the past, but I was still pleased to see the Ohuhu not bleed through with multiple layers. I’m not naive, I was just impressed that it didn’t bleed at a lower price point than Rendr. I hardly used my Rendr sketchbooks because of the price, but with Ohuhu, I’m not precious with it. I’m not sponsored by Ohuhu, and the only things they’ve ever sent me were a set of 2 products they were developing that they wanted beta testers for. I don’t think I can even say what those were.
Maybe I didn’t experience this because I mostly use Ohuhu markers on it? (I just saw you addressed this in the video.) I do have some Copics, but I don’t use them as often as the Ohuhus. Maybe they tested the Ohuhu paper with Ohuhu markers. Or maybe it’s because I don’t blend as much as you. I tend to “blend” by using dots or splotches to create texture.
I DO agree with one thing. I can’t see the color of the marker I put down if I add a light color. It’s happened with other papers, too, but not often. I have to stop and let the paper dry often. That part is frustrating, I’ll admit. But that’s really the only issue I have with it besides the lack of tooth. It’s fun for a practice sketchbook.
This. All of this. I have the smaller book, just because I tend to feel more confident working in a smaller space, and I haven’t had any “issues” with it.
I think artists that primarily work in sketchbooks are rightfully giddy over this paper. It’s nice to be able to fill a sketchbook, and not feel like you’re wasting a chunk of your book. It’s designed for a different market and a different purpose than XPI and I don’t think that makes it bad persay.
Yeah, I agree with everything you said. I don't like toothy paper. It uses more ink. That's why watercolor paper isn't recommended for markers.
I think we agree on the Mixed Media sketchbook. It's by far the best Ohuhu makes and I would recommend it as a economy-grade sketchbook.
I've tested the entire Honolulu set because I wanted to recommend it for my beginner students. You can see the results up until I quit in frustration here: markernovice.com/ohuhu-archive Someday, I'll need to wrap up that series of articles with a better ending. But if you think there's a team of Ohuhu scientists developing new marker technology and doing quality control, it couldn't be further from the truth.
I also agree with your blending point. I'll be covering that more in Part 2, so hang tight. I just didn't want to make a 40+ minute video and broke the subject into two parts.
Watercolor paper isn't generally recommended for marker beginners but quite a few of us old timers use it regularly and with great results. It depends upon the paper and your techniques but don't knock it until you've tried it.
@@AmyShulke The Ohuhu markers do behave differently than Copic. Just like both Copic and Ohuhu behave differently than Windsor & Newton or any other brand. They all have their quirks, and sometimes those quirks even change depending on the paper. On top of the fact…we all have different styles and techniques.
I have both Ohuhu and Copic. I use both for different things. I’ve had issues with both. Copic and I definitely have a love/hate relationship…looking at you Sketch caps. But just because something doesn’t necessarily work for me, doesn’t mean it might not be right for someone else. I try and keep that in mind with any review on a product I’m considering…be it glowingly positive or raging fire negative.
Thank you Amy for your honesty and sharing your experience
You are so welcome! I'm a little nervous because it's the first video where I've had to breathe straight fire at a product but ugh. This was sooooooooo bad. I hope my info helps you and others avoid the frustration.
Super fabulous review. Thank you for your humorous, educated, and honest opinion! By the way, receiving free products IS sponsorship according to the FTC guidelines. :)
Ohhhhh, that's interesting. I never thought to look at what counts legally as a sponsorship. See? I know markers but I'd make a lousy attorney, tax advisor, or accountant. Thanks for the info and thanks for watching!
Do I use markers? I do not. Did I enjoy the thorough and professional breakdown of an influencer darling brand? Oh yeah.
In this case, they deserve it. A whole lotta lying going on. I wasted my money but others don't have to. Thanks for watching!
Same!!
@@AmyShulkeI appreciate you! I wasted time and money on an oh so hyped watercolor journal from one of these brands. Never again!
I honestly don't remember this kind of rip-off stuff happening back when I was in art school, but then again, we only had a few stores and a small number of art supply companies. I pinched a lot of pennies to buy tools and supplies but I do not remember ever getting something home and having it fail the way so many products do now.
And maybe it's just a Gen X thing but I really don't understand people loyally defending questionable products. Guess they didn't have the same Sea Monkey experience growing up.
Your channel is one of my favorites. I am still gathering my bravery to jump into the markers but whether I manage to do it or not, I still love your channel for its honesty, straightforwardness and humour. Thanks.
Don't talk yourself out of it. Anyone can do markers! Unless of course, you're weighing markers against watercolor or pencils, etc... choosing a first medium always a tough decision. But if you're just thinking "markers or gardening", then I vote for markers!
@@AmyShulke 🤭 no, no gardening for me. I do love watercolors already, they are my first love, but I have always been attracted to markers and pencils as well and wanted to try them.
I love the sass in this video!! Get ‘em Miss Amy!!
LOL. Thanks.
I absolutely love your sense of humor as well as your honesty. It took a long time (and a a lot of wasted money) to learn to ignore the hype and just go with the better supplies. I was one of those that starred when the Copic craze hit with the stampers and card makers many, many moons ago… I never learned how to properly use my Copics and there they sat for many years as I gave up. I was overjoyed to find your channel/website. It gave me new hope and well as confidence… yes I can do this! Thank you so very much 💜
Awww, thanks. This was great to read. To be fair, I'm honestly not sure what was worse-- you hit markers at the height of the craze when there was soooooo much bad info out there.
Meanwhile back when I started, I was given a list of 15 marker colors and told which hole-in-the-wall store to find them at. I swear, the list was a weird assortment and then it said "choose 20-30 of your liking". I was 18 and had no idea what I was even buying. Zero info.
So I guess we never start off right. Either that or you and I have been missing the monthly artist info meetings. LOL.
Real breath of fresh air to know there's a marker artist on youtube who's not all "new pens, time for swatchies, sparkle sparkle!"
Okay, you win the Comment of the Day award. I'm still laughing. I really suck at sparkles.
LOL at the linebacker analogy! Thanks so much for speaking the truth, in spite of the defensive comments you'll receive from folks who have purchased the paper already.
I think you're right. So far the comments are fine but I'm expecting some lash-outs. A lot of people seem very invested in Ohuhu.
@@AmyShulkeI suspect they are more invested in the markers than the paper. Many who buy the markers are convinced they’ve one upped Copic.
@@RowhouseGreetings Totally agree. It's easier to pretend these products are great than to delay gratification and pinch pennies until one can buy the artist grade products which actually work.
Thumbnail gave me pause and I just about tapped out at the beginning when you started with the RUclipsr Exasperated Sigh Into the Camera, but I stuck through and you do bring up some good points. I was also conscious of how thin the paper must be since it's at least 3 layers and overall page is quite thin. I'm glad to finally see someone show what the liquid resistant inner layer looks like. I was aware of the gray appearance of lighter colors until they dry specifically from review videos, so there are those that are showing that.
I do believe there is something to be said about setting expectations. I would always consider this paper to have value as a sketchbook that allows you to get sketches on both sides of the page, increasing overall value. I don't think anyone should expect this to be the paper where they do highly rendered or commissioned artwork. I'm not sure all content creators are properly setting that expectation, especially when you consider how many of their viewers may be younger.
I wasn't aware of a RUclipsr exasperated sigh. I roll my eyes a lot in real life so it seemed a natural way to sum up my feelings without saying anything. Given that I watch a lot of gardening, farming, and biz videos, I'm not seeing a lot of eyerolls, LOL.
As for sketchbooks, I'm from the generation that considers them disposable. My sketchbooks are full of scribbles and idea dumps, totally not worth sharing with anyone. Heck, half my pages have to-do lists and reminders in the corners. But I think younger artists are creating sketchbooks as a final piece of art, something to be treasured and shared. That's an incredible amount of pressure on a young artist if they're assuming that every page should be a masterpiece of design, composition, and rendering skill. If that's the case, they're doomed to failure when they choose a paper this bad.
@@AmyShulke i think the whole "every page must be perfect" comes from the amount of flip troughs or sketchbook tours people see on social media. which are basically mini portfolio books at this point. so people think that's what it's for.
instead of just sketches. random stuff. thumbnails and what not.
Thanks for an honest review. I’m a paper perfectionist and always looking for the best and considered trying this, you saved me. Please review the Ohuhu markers, everyone says how great they are but I don’t see it. Their caps color don’t match the ink and I feel the colors are flat. I’d love to hear your review.
I gave up in frustration and pure anger: markernovice.com/ohuhu-archive
I appreciate this critique on the paper. I'm very new to marker art, I've never seen bleed through paper before, and I honestly really like Ohuhu's for the monthish that I've had some stuff from them. I'm super happy to hear that Canson has their own, I'll have to try that out next time I have more sketchbook money.
But as someone just playing with the medium, I've been pretty happy with Ohuhu's products. The price point allows people to play around and get a feel for it without having to spend hundreds of dollars.
I totally understand your point and I bought the full Ohuhu set fully intending to recommend them as a starter marker before students upgraded to Copic. Unfortunately, the inks they use are soooo bad and the Ohuhu numbering system has people wasting hours swatching... even then, the colors that look like they should blend on the chart don't blend as they should... I could go on and on about this but I'm not sure you'll hear me if you're truly sold on Ohuhu.
Anyway, Ohuhu gives alcohol markers a bad name and you don't realize it yet because you're new. Think of it like chocolate-- dollar store chocolate flavored Easter Bunnies are pretty tasty if you've never tried good chocolate. And once you try the good chocolate, it's hard to go back to the light brown hollow kid stuff.
@@AmyShulke I totally hear you! I guess probably because I'm not doing any kind of professional work or commissions and just testing things out, a cheap price and a fun supply is all I need at the moment. They are really hyped up and send out a lot of supplies to "art influencers", so it is nice to hear of the draw backs, even if I haven't encountered them yet so I can expect and try to mitigate problems.
I'm really excited to try the Canson marker paper, I hold a lot more brand loyalty with them than Ohuhu, 90% of my sketch books are Canson because they are also pretty affordable, come in so many size/varieties/thickness/ect. I love their mixed media paper because I hop from one hobby to another pretty frequently, which is why I'm happy with my dollar store chocolate for now 😊
I really like your slices by the way! I find myself drawing random fruits and vegetables when I'm testing out new supplies as well
Thank you for this, I'll stick to my Strathmore papers. I know how to use my markers and pens best with it. I like the ohuhu markers and pens, but I'll just stick to those materials. Probably saved me money and disappointment here.
That's actually a great point-- you're comfortable with your current paper and unless there's some big issue preventing you from getting the effects you want, I think it's smart to stick to what you know. If you're thinking about the paper, then something's wrong with the paper. It should always work for you silently in the background. Thanks for watching!
That thumbnail has me wheezing! 😂
LOL. That was fun. Glad you appreciated it.
I absolutely love your honesty! Thank you so much
Thanks for letting me know. I was so nervous about releasing this info but the more I watched new videos and shorts come out praising it, the more I realized someone really needed to say something.
You're just so hilarious 😂! Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! I have a tendency to get into the weeds on things, so I'm glad you appreciate the sarcastic breaks.
I can’t thank you enough for this perfectly timed video! I purchased both of those no bleed paper pads recently and had yet to try them (I purchased based on all the raving reviews!). I am within two days of the return window closing to Amazon so I was able to package and start the return luckily! Fingers crossed UPS stops today! Thank you!
Wow, the timing!!! I wish there had been some dissenting info when I purchased because like you, there was nothing but 5 stars and gushing when I looked for info on it.
Looks like you do some beautiful graphite work. What's your preferred paper right now?
You returned it just based on this review? Without trying it? I have the sketchbook and I like it. The paper is much smoother than I usually like, but it doesn’t bleed no matter how may layers of marker I add, and the markers blend really well. I wish it had more tooth, but for a sketchbook that doesn’t bleed I’m really enjoying it.
Also, the Ohuhu Mixed Media sketchbook with the textured black hard cover is my favorite sketchbook. It has tooth and takes most media well.
@@tarabooartarmy3654 I actually didn’t catch the UPS man in time so now I will just end up using them since I’ve paid for them. I bought the black cover ones as well a while back and they seem like descent paper.
Which black cover one? I actually like the mixed media pad. It's not top of my list but it's not bad. Try working with that one.
@@AmyShulke they have a hardcover mixed media sketchbook that comes in a few sizes. I use the square one. It has a slightly toothy paper that works well for most media. Love it.
It was very relaxing🌸
This was packed full of information. And that is so weird to see both the yellow and the orange show up as gray on the paper. It was hard for my brain to accept yet there it was! 😮 and this makes me realize that I dont know very much about paper.
Hard for me to accept too! I've used papers that turn a little gray, that's pretty common and barely phases me... but this level of gray had my heart racing and ugh, the blends really suffer for not being able to see what I'm doing. I did some small swatches and anything with a Copic number ending in 4 or below was severely compromised when wet.
Hey, Amy! Thanks for the honest review. What are your thoughts on Crescent Rendr? Its been my favorite marker paper since I first discovered it 6 years ago. But I did purchase one of their sketchbooks once that ended up leaving that shiny residue. So I don't think the quality is consistent between them.
I'm searching for reviews that you've done on them but can't find any! Would love to hear your opinion / tips!
I bought Rendr (Crescent) and The Wall (Canson) back when each first came out. Somehow lost the large Rendr pad when we moved house 2 years ago. For testing a few months ago, I bought a small Rendr 3x5 journal because I remember not loving it before.
Of the two, I really liked The Wall and it blended much easier than Rendr. The one benefit to Rendr is that it's toothier and thus better with mixed media. But I have to confess that as a print/reproduction artist, the idea of coloring on both sides makes me shudder and so I'm definitely not the target audience for dual sided anything. This was pretty much the same conclusion I came to again in my paper livestream. ruclips.net/user/liveLvojq6W2ev0
Both are MUCH MUCH MUCH better than the Ohuhu pad in today's video.
Since I lost the older pad, I can't say I noticed a difference between current Rendr and classic Rendr.
If you like Rendr, try Bristol. It's not dual sided but also won't give you the shiny residue. BTW, the shine is what happens when the paper fibers become over-saturated and can't hold more ink. Reduce the number of layers and you won't see a metallic glint or even the stickiness that happens when over-over-saturating.
I just started the paper series so give me some time to work through my stash. I've got a ton of paper (as seen in the livestream) plus more still in moving boxes in the attic. Rendr and The Wall will both get covered eventually.
@@AmyShulke Very thorough and detailed response. I appreciate your time and feedback. Thank you so much!
Thank you for your honest review. I learned alot about paper and it validated some of the issues I ran into. I got caught up in the hype and purchased this sketchbook. As someone who only does this as a hobby, it is scary to shell out tons of money for the big brands. That and I’ve read lots of reviews online that Rendr paper quality has gone down so this seemed like a safe alternative. I honestly thought I was crazy when I laid down my skin tone colors and they showed up as gray. 😭 It definitely doesn’t bleed through as advertised but that’s about it.
I totally understand. It is scary to invest in art supplies; no matter what medium you choose, the real stuff is always expensive. I think because markers got trendy and because we're not able to mix colors on a palette, it's probably more expensive to start markers than other art forms.
Just know, when something cheap fails, it's not you. I've seen so many students improve just by putting a better marker in their hand and by working on better paper. Same techniques, same skills, just better supplies-- it makes a world of difference.
This comment isn't going to be completely on topic for the paper pad in the video, but as someone with a huge set of Ohuhu markers (the 200-and-however-many-it-is-I-don't-want-to-check set) who loves them, I wanted to thank you for giving your honest opinion on your website. As much as I love my markers, there are things that have bothered me about them for years, like the nonsensical names and the color-code system which you brought up in your review on the website. Recently I was really bothered when I saw a youtube video comparing Ohuhus to Copics that claimed Ohuhus were just as good as Copics for professional usage, without mentioning the fact that Ohuhus have abysmal lightfastness. Lightfastness is something that I don't worry about, as someone who uses my alcohol markers exclusively for fun, and I feel like it's an acceptable tradeoff for a lower price point, but it would be a massive issue for someone using them in professional avenues. Not mentioning it felt off.
I'm also frustrated by the similarity of a good number of their colors. I went through once comparing swatches and testing colors, and counted all the markers I felt were close enough to another color that they were redundant, and I don't recall the number I came up with, but I was not happy about it. There shouldn't be five pinks that are nigh imperceptibly different in value. I've had some iffy feelings about the brand for a while now as prices rose, and the quality of some of their other products (specifically, some of their water markers, which is the only other supply they sell that I've tried) was less than quality.
Your article made me realize, though, a lot that I've been missing. I've only ever used Ohuhus, never another brand of alcohol marker, but I had watched plenty of artists use Copics on youtube before I got my first set, and I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong with blending, and the colorless blender, and the like, because I wasn't getting the results and effects I felt like I should. Honestly, eventually I figured that it was a problem with the paper and I just wasn't able to figure out what kind of paper would work best, and then shrugged and learned to work around the issues (and I definitely adapted, finding a style and a process that works within the markers' limitations and lets me create pieces I love), but reading your article made the lightbulb turn on in my brain after however many years it's been.
I don't totally agree that Ohuhus aren't worth spending any money on. The relative pricing means there was no way I would ever have been able to try alcohol markers if Ohuhus hadn't been around to try, and having the opportunity to work with even an inferior set made me fall totally in love with the medium that is now my favorite, hands down, so I can't regret the opportunity they gave me. In my opinion, a small set is good to try out the medium when you don't know whether or not you'll like it, enough to give someone a taste of what they can do. But if you really love alcohol markers, it seems like you should probably go for Copic. I wish I had the money to go out and buy some right now, because now that I'm aware of a little more of the differences I am very, very, very curious to try them out and see if the difference is as big as it sounds, but unfortunately I need things like food and gasoline that cut into my art-supply budget.
I am apparently incapable of being concise but I will try to boil it down. Thank you for your honest review of the products, both the good and the bad. I appreciate it and I wish someone had really made the differences clear, sooner, so maybe I could have a few Copics by now, but ah well.
This was great to read and I'm very glad you shared your experience and thoughts. I agree that we need a good entry-level set of markers for people to sample.
Copic introduced the Ciao line to meet this need but then blew it on the pricing. Ciao were less expensive but still not an easy, affordable purchase. And I'm still looking for a marker brand that's easy to suggest to the fence sitters who are interested in markers but wisely hesitant.
I would love to see a set of 24 versatile inexpensive colors that I could run a half dozen beginner classes with. Then if the student wanted to explore further, as each of the 24 dried out, they replaced it with a matching Copic. Seems like a simple dream but so far, no joy.
Hey new subscriber and first time watcher. I personally think you’re witty and just hilarious. But the information you are providing is aaaamazing! IM SO GLAD I DIDNT BUY THAT PAPER! 😂😂😂 the reviews were too ridiculous. No one cared HOW the drawing EXPERIENCE was. Just about how it didn’t bleed through and I was so confused bc (you said it eloquently lol) 😢bleed proof paper isn’t new! I am so glad I found your channel. I love artists who can ALSO teach, you are GEMS 💎! ❤
Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback and subscription but also, THANK YOU for confirming that I wasn't the only one to smell a rat. Sometimes I worry that I'm too cynical. In this case, it was justified but yes, my Spidey senses were tingling after the fourth "OMG it doesn't bleed" video and by the 20th, I was sick of it. Please let me know what you think of the next video coming on Friday, tomato part 2!
Your artwork is amazing!!!!
Thank you so much 😀
Thanks for the review! I tested this paper on a much simpler, more stylized piece and I liked it for that. Granted, I did not do as much blending as you did. I did notice the grayness when you put down a light color and that really threw me off, and made it difficult to know if I was getting the results I wanted.
Thanks for confirming the gray factor. I think it helps when people read the comments to see that we're not just irrational haters. The grayness wasn't the real turnoff for me, it was how dark the gray was and how eternally long the gray lasted. The duration turned an inconvenience into an impossiblity.
I appreciate you taking the time to share and thanks for watching too!
Loved your humor. I had to keep pausing because I was laughing so hard. When I first got into markers, I was so blessed to have found you first rather than the myriad of RUclipsrs. Your tutorials changed the way I color everything and why I kept purchasing my Copics... even just 1 at a time as I could afford them. I can't wait for part 2. I get a lot of flack for sending people to X-Press It paper...hobbyists tend to be cheapskates, not realizing they spend more money on fad junk than if they would have bought the good stuff the first time. Yes, it's expensive but also very forgiving if you make an oops. If you watch for proper sales you can find it at good prices and you can actually learn proper technique that makes you better rather than working on junk and believing its all you...nope its not you, its the junk products holding you back.
Thanks Heather. I get the same thing about XPI, so much so that at one point, I had blinking red letters on the foundations course that it was XPI or don't buy the course. Constant emails "can't you make an exception for me, pretty please?" Ugh.
And no, I won't be teaching the next livestream in a bikini.
@AmyShulke if I would have asked my art professor (Ed Valentine at Ohio State) in college to change his syllabus and supply list he would have booted my butt to the door. I was a history major and his class was the hardest class I ever took. I still can't draw a face to save my life but I can knock a still life out of the park with patience. People want to half-ass technique and get mad at the teacher because they are failing to learn.
@@heatherwarner865 LOL, I once sighed a little too loudly in an industrial drawing class. First and only time I ever made that mistake. Yes sir, thank you sir, please let me draw it a sixth time sir.
I bought this this product and had the same thoughts! What marker paper would you recommend for alcohol markers? I’ve used mixed media pads from canson and it bleeds a lot but blends pretty well. I’ve been thinking about getting Neenah card stock or strath more smooth Bristol, or maybe borden and Riley Paris paper? Mixed media is very absorbent but I want to conserve ink in my copics so I can save money.
Avoid mixed media paper because I find it to be more thirsty than some watercolor papers. I do my marker + colored pencil mixed media on Strathmore 300 which I cover in depth in the kiwi video. ruclips.net/video/nDe7H45nkjg/видео.html
Canson Bristol has been my favorite. There's ghosting but no bleeding.
Just found you - thank goodness as I'm desperately looking for honesty!
Just looked at your channel. I love the gold and violet tones in your skin experiments.
@@AmyShulke thanks so much.. wish I'd seen your tutorials beforehand!
👏👏👏👏👏 brilliant. I wish all reviews for this honest.
I appreciate that! The way I see it, we don't have to agree but we do need to start with honesty. Thanks for watching but thanks even more for commenting. I appreciate your time.
Very useful info. I like that we are seeing on camera now
So glad you find it helpful! Even if you decide it's the best paper for you, seeing where I struggle can help you make better decisions as you color. Thanks for watching!
Ur not the only person in the world who hates this paper. I odered it a few days ago and I hated it too. The actual sheets are too thin, ink takes forever to dry. I used several different pigment liner brands on this paper, which I've been using with my alcohol markers on other papers multiple times. So, fineliners that are 100% alcohol marker proof. On this paper tho, they all smeared. I let them dry for 20 minutes and they still all smeared. I've never experienced anyting like it on my other marker papers. I returned it the other day. I'm just glad I ordered it from A-zon, not directly from Ohuhu.
So, yeah. Never again. They had the chance to make a proper marker paper this time. Instead they released a bad Rendr knock-off.
Welcome to my Disgruntled Marker Artist's Club. The beanie hat and membership card are in the mail!
I totally agree. Their mixed media paper wasn't terrible with markers and I hoped they had made a mission change and would start serving the marker market with something more than cheap versions of everything already invented. I don't know why but I really wanted this paper to be good.
How do you keep copies from bleeding and why do they do that?
Bleed and bleed-through is actually not a marker problem-- it's a paper problem.
Most papers are designed to withstand water and waterbased art supplies, so often alcohol isn't something they test during the product development phase. Alcohol behaves differently and will slide right past water barriers.
So the trick to stopping alcohol marker bleed-through is to select either a thicker paper or a paper developed with alcohol resistant ingredients or coating.
The trick to stopping "bleed" or "feathering" where ink spreads across the surface (not through to the backside) or seeps out beyond your line art is to choose better paper. In feathering, the fibers carry the ink outside your lines, so the solution is to use paper with fibers which don't allow the ink to travel.
Amy, I so agree with you about the Shitty paper out here for Markers. I'm just sticking with Strathmore Bristol Board and X Press It.
There are other good options out there. I'll keep doing a few paper videos per month and hopefully something triggers your curiosity. I think I'll do a true sketchbook next, people always need a good one and that's one niche XPI could be filling but oddly doesn't seem to want it.
I truly feel like these brands like Ohuhu and Arteza are doing them self a disservice by sending out huge pr to everyone on RUclips. Is it fun for us to see new art materials, yes. But the value seem so much less when everyone gets a huge bag of markers and asked to do the same type of video. They all hit the same talking points and never question stuff, like the greyness in this paper. So if I search, just like you said, all the videos are made from the same group of people. If I wanted an opinion about FC polychromos I can find the whole spectrum (spectrum because color!) of pros and cons. I get that sending supplies to RUclipser is a fairly cheap marketing way but it makes someone like me very suspicious 🥸 also love the video and have subscribed ❤
I totally agree. The information on Ohuhu is incredibly one sided because of their intensive marketing campaign. They forced their product to trend and now that it's trendy, the people who rightly feel cheated and misled are reluctant to go against popular opinion.
But then again, Ohuhu was a plastic company making camping equipment and housing for electronics before (out of the blue) getting into markers. I don't think they're in it long term, they're just riding the cheap art supply train until it runs out of steam.
I have mainly come to the conclusion of. "If the person in the video is sponsored or got the product for free from the company. Their opinion is biased and should go in the garbage" looking at you Jazza.
At this point I'm just gonna stick to the brands i know. I wanted to give Ohuhu a shot. But their marketing gives me a sus feeling. And some slight problems i have heard are the same as the cheap Action alcohol markers i own already and i do not have with Copic. Mainly the cap not matching the color that comes out of the marker. I have also concerns of the markers of the shades being inconsistent between batches. Since well my cheap alcohol markers have this problem. So that's either a good or bad thing no one has reported on this.
Copic. I have two of the same shade bought years appart (i had a derp moment in the store despite having written down what colors i already have). And their colors are slightly different. But so are the marker caps. So this tells me Copic puts effort in matching the caps to the ink inside the best they can.
Also i can't buy ohuhu stuff in an art store. So i can't just pick up w marker or two to try out.
To be honest, even Ohuhu is made in China, it's actually not popular among the Chinese art marker users. Copic is surely ranked the top among the Chinese marker artists but since the price is very high for them so many art students use other Chinese brands instead. Finecolour is the best local art marker brand among the local Chinese instead of Ohuhu. Ohuhu is really a over-hyped and heavily advertised Made in China product to me. And from your ohuhu test on your website, I somehow believe even some of the better Chinese marker brand like Finecolour and Croma behave better than Ohuhu though they are not comparable to copic. Moreover, in China it's easy to get these brands'refills in all colours around $1-1.5usd each but ohuhu cannot provide refills for each colours and sell them much more expensive than the local Chinese brands.
This is soooo interesting to read! It kinda confirms my suspicions... it feels like Ohuhu had an empty plastics plant and took advantage of a few US/China trade law holes... They figured they could make easy money here. Judging from all the Ohuhuites, they were totally right.
If they ever intended to sell to the Chinese market, I don't think they would have invented the fake Hawaii story. That right there says they always intended to go after Americans.
I wasn't expecting the same performance from a "marker paper" that I get while doodling on a cheap sketchbook really only made for pens
Thanks for the truly honest review
I appreciate your feedback. I agree, at that price, I didn't expect OMP to be a performance paper either... but when all the reviews make it sound like the pads float down from heaven on a rainbow... I expected more.
Yeah I’m not surprised that the ohuhu paper isn’t that good. The markers of the ohuhu brand are phenomenal but I’m not surprised that the paper is crap I’ll stick with what I got
What paper are you using?
@@AmyShulke Bristol paper from straphmore and canson and I’m planning on getting that X-press it paper you made a vid about a bit ago
Why I don't wear a bikini. Excellent analogy! 😂😂😂
Gotta hold it all somewhere, LOL
@@AmyShulke loool, you should also do comedy! 😃 😀 😄
There are only like 2 people I trust about marker paper. Most people think Neenah paper is acceptable for markers. RUclipsrs don’t actually make art with these supplies so their opinions are invalid.
Now this is the review i have been looking for. Unbiased and honest.
Thank you so much for watching and thank you for the feedback. I was a nervous wreck all week knowing this was set to publish, so I really appreciate you letting me know it was appreciated.
@@AmyShulke no problem. i was glad to find a review of this that wasn't sponsored at all.
product reviews being sponsored these days are becoming a problem, since well you can't trust em. it's basically a 10+ minute add at that point.
heck i was thinking of buying a mid sized pack of Ohuhu markers and do a test of how well they hold up compared to the Copic ones i have. but at this point. the amount of Copic markers i have + cheap Action twinmarkers i use to fill in gaps of shades i don't have Copics for. i don't need em. like at all. i can get by with what i have.
I love that you aren't sponsored, resulting in a real unbiased review. But shouldn't you at least try it out with Ohuhu markers? Maybe the composition of the ink in Copics differ from Ohuhu's marker, causing an issues on this kind of paper?
I can test Ohuhus on their paper but I think you're misguided in assuming that Ohuhu markers were developed by artists and formulated by chemists. Ohuhu was a plastics company making knockoff camping supplies and electronics before they spotted another plastic product they could easily reproduce. They don't innovate anything, they imitate using the cheapest possible ingredients and they do this from an unregulated part of the world. So I was very serious when I said I was giving them an advantage by testing their paper with blendable markers.
Amy will you adopt me
Yes, especially if you put your breakfast plate in the dishwasher instead of leaving it on the counter for me to do later.
I don't know. I bought the paper. I haven't tried it yet. First, the paper is cool toned. Personally, I would've swatched my colors. If you're using white paper techniques on cool toned paper, why would that work? As for the stickiness, Copics may not be for this paper. It may have been specially formulated for use with
Ohuhu markers. Did you know Faber Castell pencils are specially made for their markers to use for sketching? The marker melts away the pencil, so erasing isn't necessary. Second, Copics are overrated and insanely too expensive. Ohuhu, while not perfect, is affordable. They also listen to their consumers. I'm sure this product will improve in time. I know it's much cheaper than Copic or Rendr paper. Neither of which I'm sublimely in love. Third, in most reviews of the paper, the artist used ohuhu markers. Just sayin.
I was going to respond at length until I re-read your post and realized you haven't used the paper. But hey, thanks for watching.
I bought this pad. And it’s the worst!! So disappointed
I'm interested in your observations. What was the worst thing you noticed? Anything positive?
I guess if I were to have to pick something……….. no. Nothing. Gummy, sticky, puddles, smears, looks chunky?! So so bad and very frustrating. Can’t blend, it almost just pushes ink around
@@ivyclough8969 Chunky is a god descriptive. Thanks for answering. I know a lot of people are hearing complaints about Ohuhu for the first time. I think it helps to hear specifics and realistic evaluations, so they can’t simply write us off as haters.
@@AmyShulke I am very surprised about all of the good reviews. One woman said it was “different” and you needed to watch for smudges….. but overall good! Obviously trying to cushion the blow. I know people aren’t completely honest, but usually I’ve had the experience of accurate reviews. This is such a blatant lie it’s very disappointing.