Chessnut Air vs Air+ | Is the Plus Worth Almost Double the Cost?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @Harvestersz
    @Harvestersz Год назад +12

    It should be pointed out that the Air+ brings the aesthetics of the Pro Board over to the smaller Air form factor. If you like the looks and feel of the Chessnut Pro, you will love the Air+ simply because, for all intents and purposes, it is the same board shrunk down.
    BTW, I love mine.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Год назад +2

      Totally agree. I think the greater offense is how much more expensive the Pro is over the Air+. I agree it’s a beautiful and fun board to play on, but it comes at a pretty prohibitive cost for most.

  • @westsidebilling
    @westsidebilling Месяц назад +1

    Good review, and very good point on the contrasting colors. JMHO - These boards are nice, but I wouldn't buy either of them. If someone is serious about chess improvement, they don't need electronic boards. All they need is is a standard plastic set, some quality books (i.e. the Woodpecker Method, or Laszlo Polgar's 5334) and some serious study.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Месяц назад

      Thank you and I agree. This kind of product is not the most important tool for chess improvement, but it’s the closest thing you can get to OTB experience without actually having another person to play with. I do think that can go a long way when it comes to getting ready for a tournament, specifically. Thanks for the comment!

  • @OnRappel
    @OnRappel 5 месяцев назад +4

    I noticed the prices are quite a bit higher now than the time of this video. Do they fluctuate throughout the year or just they just raise the prices significantly.

    • @michaelbrownlee4857
      @michaelbrownlee4857 Месяц назад

      It is insane
      They must have just raised the price ... by raising the price I mean like +300%

  • @shadowandbosco
    @shadowandbosco 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the comparison - think I'm going with the original. I'm learning chess at 65 and I believe this board will help me to learn the game. I am a new subscriber to your channel and look forward to future videos. Thanks again.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for the comment and appreciate your support of my channel! Best of luck in your chess journey!

  • @benshaw673
    @benshaw673 Год назад +1

    Thabks for that. The board I think I want is the Air+. But the cost (and the current 2 month pre order delay) has me pausing. Especially as a UK resident where paying a sizable chunk of import duty is on the cards.

    • @scoopbls
      @scoopbls 11 месяцев назад

      I ordered and got mine in the second batch. From London UK. No import duty.

    • @dynaxd5d
      @dynaxd5d 5 месяцев назад

      @@scoopbls You are lucky man. I had to pay the full delivery costs, as if the UK was not part of Europe, but some distant country somewhere in Asia or Africa. 😭

  • @stephenelliott7071
    @stephenelliott7071 7 месяцев назад +1

    Oh that's a nice product. I have the Chess Nut Pro, but it's certainly not a travel sized board. I would never use a physical board with plastic pieces and board, so this is a welcome upgrade. But I agree with you that the wooden pieces could have more detail and weight. Maybe the next revision will have those features.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  7 месяцев назад +1

      Checkout the video I just posted on the Chessnut Go! It is a new travel-focused board which I’m really impressed by so far

  • @peter1970uk
    @peter1970uk Год назад +5

    Dam I want the air+ board with the original air pieces now after this.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Год назад +4

      It's crazy because the wood pieces for the Pro are immaculate. I was surprised to see the Air+ pieces deviate so much

    • @wrecklass
      @wrecklass 10 месяцев назад

      @@cameronginochiochess I think what'd I'd really like is for someone to make some 3D printer pieces that fit the sensors. Which they sell at Chessnut for about US$30 dollars, or about $20 less than a full replacement set of pieces. Which, BTW @peter1970uk, you can purchase the Air pieces if you'd like those instead of the wonky wooden ones. I have the original Air and really like it. You could keep the wooden ones as backup.

  • @swilliams140
    @swilliams140 11 месяцев назад +4

    You had me with the nostrils. I like the regular Air more.
    Have you seen the chessgirl video on how to change out the pieces for wooden ones. You just need to have access to a drill press, or pre-drilled chess pieces. Stone chess pieces would be even better.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +1

      I have! When I first bought the Air I thought that was a super cool feature that they sold the sensors separately. I just haven’t had the motivation to put in the work to do it myself lol

    • @titoan31
      @titoan31 11 месяцев назад +1

      Can you give us the link of this video plz ?

    • @Toimu13
      @Toimu13 11 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/bDAMj7ro2LQ/видео.htmlsi=gYCqKT41knt9oCeV
      CHeSSgirl removes the sensors from the Air+ figures and puts the sensors in new wooden figures.
      Chessnut sells a package of 34 sensors if you don't want to damage the original figures.

    • @swilliams140
      @swilliams140 11 месяцев назад

      @@titoan31 ruclips.net/video/bDAMj7ro2LQ/видео.html

    • @tychay
      @tychay 10 месяцев назад +1

      why not get an indian manufacture to sell you the pieces without weights or felt added? Most will do so. The hard part is finding pieces that will fit 35mm squares. No problem with the pro as 2.25" is the USCF standard.
      You can even buy tungsten putty (used by boy scouts and fishermen to weight down wood block cars and lines respectively) to maybe even weight down the pieces if there is any room in there before you stuff in the sensors (which can be shipped a bit).

  • @CR3DT
    @CR3DT Год назад +14

    yikes, those pieces are horrible... that is really killing it for me.

    • @AuRowe
      @AuRowe 11 месяцев назад +4

      Facts. Dealbreaker for me

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +2

      I guess I might be in the minority but even though the pieces do have some very obvious imperfections I still think the plus looks far and away better than the original with the all wood features. I’m still annoyed the Air+ pieces are lighter, though.

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@cameronginochiochessAre the pieces interchangeable? Will the regular prices work on the Air+?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +3

      Yes, in theory all of the pieces are interchangeable between all of Chessnut's products including the Air, Air+, Pro, and EVO@@utubepunk

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@cameronginochiochess Thanks for information. Gonna stick to my RadioShack 1650 Travel Chess for now. Lol. One day I hope to snag one of these beauties.

  • @viking6237
    @viking6237 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the thorough review!! I did go ahead and purchase the air+

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  5 месяцев назад

      Awesome!! You will not be disappointed! Appreciate the comment

  • @datboiwildin
    @datboiwildin 10 месяцев назад

    hey… i found you off chess reddit and I really enjoy your content with this. I would really appreciate it if you could make a comparison between the pro and the air plus… what are the key differences? is it worth paying almost double the price for better quality pieces? etc… I was going to get the air plus but seeing how much better the pro looks had me thinking

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  10 месяцев назад +1

      Hey thanks for the comment! I'll try to make a video soon comparing the Pro and the Air Plus. If you have the space for a tournament sized board, it would be my recommendation. I've played probably 90% of my rapid games in the last few months on my Pro. The Air Plus is a beautiful board in its own right, but when it comes to playing experience it's hard to beat a tournament sized board. Functionality is essentially identical, so I understand why the decision is hard to spend double the price for the Pro. And to be even more transparent, all of my Chessnut boards with the exception of the original Air were sent to me by Chessnut for review, so I personally didn't have to make that decision. All that said, I still recommend the Pro as it's the best playing experience for sure. If you don't have the space for a big ass board like the Pro, the Air Plus is fantastic, too.

  • @dynaxd5d
    @dynaxd5d 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very good and useful review. Thank you! I disagree with one thing. In my opinion, the lack of coordinates on Air+ is a serious disadvantage of this board. Bright dark fields are not as significant as missing coordinates. That's the only reason I decided to buy the origin Air. It's excellent. It was a good purchase.
    It's a pity that the pieces don't have magnetic mounting.
    Oh, and I'm not a beginner. I've only been playing chess for about 60 years, on and off 😏😂

  • @Toimu13
    @Toimu13 11 месяцев назад

    After watching Aart Bik's Chess for Android video comparing a lot of eboards, I like Chessnut eboards the best.
    I love that Chessnut sells the sensors for the figures so I could easily make my own.
    I wish the Air+ had a higher contrast board. Someone made their own chess eboard from a Raspberry Pi... Wonder if I could put the electronics into another board myself...

  • @1pwNz0mb13Z
    @1pwNz0mb13Z 7 месяцев назад +1

    What happens if you close out of the app on these while playing a game, like if you get a phone call or temporarily switch to a different app? Can you just switch back to the Chessnut app and continue the game?

  • @TFPMadcow
    @TFPMadcow Год назад +2

    I think the Air1 pieces are really bad, when you say the plastic pieces are better than the wood ones you kill a lot of the enthusiasm I had for this board … you are sending me back to square one and looking at the Pro :)

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Год назад +2

      I wouldn’t call the wood pieces bad, I just think they could definitely be better. The Pro is wonderful though, I’ve also done a full review of that board and its pieces.

  • @Sejdr
    @Sejdr 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the nice reviews. Does Chessnut Air+ work on chessable?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you!! Unfortunately not. As of now only the EVO has that capability

    • @Sejdr
      @Sejdr 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@cameronginochiochess Thank you for the information.

  • @CanadianFinanceSimplified
    @CanadianFinanceSimplified 7 месяцев назад

    Hey Cameron! New to the channel but is the EVO considered the top of the line in the world?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  7 месяцев назад +2

      Hey there! In terms of robustness of features you’d be hard pressed to find a device that can do as much as the EVO. It really depends on what you want out of an electronic chessboard. That said, the EVO certainly has its software quirks that can be frustrating when it costs as much as it does

  • @cooloutac
    @cooloutac Год назад +2

    for me thats alot of money just for the all wood set. But then again I'd rather get the pro over the evo lmao. I've had the original air for two years now play on it everday. I remember at the time I coudln't find another board even close to under $200 with full piece recognition. I originally had the dgt pegasus but it always gave me issues and a had a poor battery. Chessnut blows it away.

    • @CalBru
      @CalBru Год назад +1

      Got the Evo and have to say I love it, for what it's worth.

    • @cooloutac
      @cooloutac Год назад +1

      @@CalBru very cool. I love my air. don't get me wrong if I had the money I'd get the + or pro, but its nice they have an affordable version for people like me. lol.

    • @CalBru
      @CalBru Год назад +1

      @@cooloutac yeah, in fairness I choked a bit on the cost, so was glad I found it was worth it.

  • @AgentTex13
    @AgentTex13 2 месяца назад

    Would it be possible to use other chess pieces with these boards?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  2 месяца назад +1

      Chessnut sells the sensors separately so that you can modify chess pieces to add the sensors! There are a ton of creators on RUclips showing their process

  • @thomasmogensen6602
    @thomasmogensen6602 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the review. Went with the original as a beginner player and saving the money.
    Used your promo code and subbed to the channel :)

  •  7 месяцев назад

    Could you compare this chesnut air plus, with the dgt pegasus?

  • @benmonsta2506
    @benmonsta2506 11 месяцев назад

    For he surplus pieces work on the regular air board?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад

      Yes all the pieces are interchangeable, I believe they use the same chips. I needed 3 knights the other day for a puzzle and used an Air piece on the Pro board

  • @pawnslinger1
    @pawnslinger1 Год назад +2

    Axtually, I like the original better. But I wish that I had the upgraded pieces.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Год назад

      Thanks for your comment! What do you like more about the original?

    • @pawnslinger1
      @pawnslinger1 Год назад +3

      @@cameronginochiochess I like the contrast of the squares on the original. I also own the Pro, and it is very nice, but again the contrast of square colors is too washed-out for my taste. But then my normal Chess board is an ebony/cream colored squares board. House of Staunton has a real nice Maple/Palisander board for around $150 that I purchased a few years ago. Nice. I paired it with a nice Staunton set from Chess Bazaar (that only cost around $100).... its funny how I end up spending more on the board than the pieces. But the look of the board is VERY important to me... I think my taste is not shared by everyone, but most people I run into value the board look over the piece look. In pieces, I like the Dubrovnik look or the Zagreb style best, because I need help distinguishing between Bishops, Pawns and Queens. But the finer details on the carving go unnoticed, except when the board is setup as a show piece. For play purposes, my favorite set is actually plastic!! I like weighted pieces that have clear distinction between pawns, bishops and queens.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Год назад +3

      @@pawnslinger1 great insight! I think I definitely lean more toward piece quality, but more in the sense of weight. Idk why I’m so obsessed with heavier pieces, I just think they play so much better. My House of Staunton pieces/board feel really good and the contrast is great, it’s a blue set lol. But I hear you, it’s surprising to me that Chessnut didn’t go for a deeper color for the dark squares on either the Pro or the Air+

    • @pawnslinger1
      @pawnslinger1 Год назад

      @@cameronginochiochess I totally agree with you about weight. I like the quad weighted pieces from the House of Staunton... my everyday regular set is their plastic Marshall set.... I love it, I wish I could afford the wooden version. And my best set, for special occasions and for display purposes is the House of Staunton Morphy set.... I picked it up on special approximately 5 years ago. My only problem with it is that it was pretty expensive (by my standards) and so I don't play with it often. When I really need/want to play with a wood set, I picked up a cheap Staunton style set (boxwood ebonized) from Chess Bazaar.... it looks okay and is weighted.... but only double (I wish it was quad weighted like the Marshall set). So yeah, I like the weight too.... so those 2 things are the most important factors for me, weight and piece recognition.

  • @lokkedpiano5261
    @lokkedpiano5261 8 месяцев назад

    Hello, could someone please tell me if the pieces are electronically special or is it just the board? Could I use any chess pieces on this board?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  8 месяцев назад +1

      The pieces have specific sensors in them that make them work with the Chessnut boards. Chessnut does sell the sensors separately if you are so inclined to modify a piece set you’d like to use

  • @iAPX432
    @iAPX432 7 месяцев назад

    Would take the Air instead the Air+, I prefer good plastic pieces with correct weight to bad wood pieces.
    Weight being essential for my enjoyment.
    I think the Air gives more for the dollar, while Air+ is still great.
    Notice that I am accustomed to tournament plastic board and pieces, and would love a product that look exactly the same on the correct sizes (and weight), because it's the real thing in clubs, associations, local tournaments, etc.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  7 месяцев назад +1

      Have you tried the SquareOff Pro? That might give you the experience you’re looking for with tournament sized pieces and a roll out board.

    • @iAPX432
      @iAPX432 7 месяцев назад

      @@cameronginochiochess effectively, seems the right fit for me! Thanx!

  • @spartanj2957
    @spartanj2957 9 месяцев назад

    Is the battery replaceable by the user.? They don't last forever. Would be nice if they were weighed,yes carving needs work for what you are paying.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  9 месяцев назад +1

      Unsure about the battery but it’s a good question. I’ll ask Chessnut

    • @stevesun11001
      @stevesun11001 3 месяца назад

      Nope! They told me anything maintenance needs to be done by Chessnut!

  • @Murat807
    @Murat807 Год назад

    I would buy the plus if it had 81 LED. Single LED per square sometimes gets blocked by the pieces.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  Год назад +1

      I worried about that but the LEDs are pretty far into the corner of each square and it often doesn’t become a problem. I do really like the way the EVO illuminates its squares though. Super easy to see

    • @AuRowe
      @AuRowe 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@cameronginochiochessyo man, just got the Evo and it's a little larger for carrying to the backyard than I was expecting. So now looking at the air plus as an additional to carry around the house and into the backyard. Evo is not too big with a will, but its MacBook-like design makes me not want to take it outside..

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +3

      @@AuRowe agreed, the EVO is a tank for sure. I don’t like moving that one around a lot. The Air+ is my preferred board when I’m playing randomly in the house or if I’m working through a chess book. It’s just so light and compact.

  • @shaqy6467
    @shaqy6467 4 месяца назад

    Great vid

  • @jahwshfig
    @jahwshfig 11 месяцев назад

    Can you slide these pieces like the pro?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! The Air+ has the same Move Latency setting as the Pro which enables you to slide pieces

    • @rulaspla
      @rulaspla 11 месяцев назад

      So you can't slide the pieces on the Air but can you do it on the Ari+? Do they have different movement latencies?

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@rulaspla correct, the original Air does NOT have the setting to add a Move Latency so you would need to be more careful about sliding pieces. It’s something that seems like it could easily be added, though.

    • @jahwshfig
      @jahwshfig 10 месяцев назад

      Can you use cable to connect with devices or computer or is it only bluetooth

    • @wrecklass
      @wrecklass 10 месяцев назад

      The new Air software seems to have the same Latency feature now. I just got one, and it works with slide moves very well. Although I did get one game where it didn't register a queen move, and that made for an embarrassing 'blunder.'

  • @samrichardson3563
    @samrichardson3563 21 день назад

    Pieces made of wood aren't gonna be quite as sharp as plastic. As plastic is made in a mold and wooden ones are carved. I like that style, as it has a hand made feel.
    I'll still probably get the normal air though 😂

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  21 день назад

      Definitely a difference in preferences and I, too, like the look of the hand carved wooden piece even if they lack the sharpness and perfection of plastic. Thanks for watching!

  • @jahwshfig
    @jahwshfig 10 месяцев назад

    Dude I love ur ring where about did u get it 🤣

    • @jahwshfig
      @jahwshfig 10 месяцев назад

      Sorry for random question

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  10 месяцев назад

      Lol appreciate it!! Got it from a local jeweler!

  • @stevesun11001
    @stevesun11001 3 месяца назад

    Now, the price goes up to $399!

  • @leatangerine
    @leatangerine 7 месяцев назад

    Hey there
    We're working on launching an automated chess robot and we'd love to get your input to make it the best it can be! We're particularly interested in hearing from potential users like you about what features you'd like to see and what you think would be a fair price.
    Just to give you some context, we're a team within a leading AI company in Asia, focused on developing chess robots. We've already introduced two successful board game products that combine top-notch AI technology with robotic arms. They've been a hit in China for the past 2 years, finding their way into tens of thousands of households.
    Reply if you are up for a chat about it!

  • @eusie59
    @eusie59 4 месяца назад

    I agree in general. The air is an ugly piece of technic. I think the Pro is the best from Chessnut, but still exactly the same features. That's my problem with CN.
    I have the Evo too and the issues with that are, I hope, temporarily.

  • @UragonKadi
    @UragonKadi 11 месяцев назад

    This is not worth buying. My experience is that there are instances where pieces are placed in the wrong square. I am returning my Chessnut Air.

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад

      Interesting, can you elaborate? When you place a piece is it registering somewhere else? Do you slide your pieces?

    • @AuRowe
      @AuRowe 11 месяцев назад

      @@cameronginochiochessditto on those questions; replying to get updated if he answers. Got the evo today and its solid. Got it partially due to your review. Keep it up man

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  11 месяцев назад

      @@AuRowe appreciate the kind words and so glad you’ve found them helpful!!

  • @scoopbls
    @scoopbls 10 месяцев назад

    DMed you pics of my Knights on FB from my Air+. In some ways better than yours, in other ways it's worse

    • @cameronginochiochess
      @cameronginochiochess  10 месяцев назад

      I just saw that, woof. Chessnut definitely needs to lock down quality control on the Air+ pieces

  • @stevesun11001
    @stevesun11001 3 месяца назад

    Among all chess pieces, only the ones for Pro are from India! Others are all made in China! Chessnut, imho, knows the technology but they have no idea about how to make pieces to match their boards! Especially the knights! SO UGLY!

  • @OnRappel
    @OnRappel 5 месяцев назад

    $315? It's $340 now!!

  • @tetsero
    @tetsero 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is awful. You could also make the same thing by putting tags into each piece and putting a chess bot on a raspberry pi and build it into the board. All of these are WAY overpriced.