Well... you can not just rezone recreational land into housing developments or a cement factory. That is why we have zoning. But in this case the owners have not put forward anything, maybe they just want to sit on it for 20 years.
@@steveconkey7362 Of course, but that has to go though a approvals process with the government. You can not just build whatever you want because you own it.
They don’t live on the golf course, they live on property boarding it. You can’t control what happens on property you don’t own as long as it was purchased legally.
Happened in my city a few years ago. The golf course was separately owned from the homes. They sold it and new homes were built. The golf course owner said golf memberships had decreased because the younger generations weren't playing golf.
If the land is private they are under no obligation to tell people it sold. If they want to build homes and can get it redesigned for homes they can. Not recording the sale to the government is troubling and needs to be reviewed by the city and tax office
@countbenjamin1442 " Not recording the sale to the government is troubling and needs to be reviewed by the city and tax office" Perhaps you've never heard of a "closing" at a Title company. The responsibility to make that "report" is on the Title Company. It is basically impossible for a title company not to report the sale of real property.
@@ZestayTaco Perhaps you don't understand how Title Companies work... short lesson, they are bonded and insured, and if they fail to meet the requirements of State law... they are closed. so it goes like this... Owners sell, before the closing... the title company has to research the land and historical encumbrances and certifies the land after the sale all those issues have been cleared up... oh ya, then there's the whole Tax thing... ya, now way around that either. The website not being updated, ya irrelevant in context of legal or illegal... it's what is called a "nonsequiteur" .
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office. The county appraiser's website has now been updated to reflect the current owner.
That's the issue though, that you obviously missed, the new owners are getting tax protection by using previous owners name on the deed, property appraiser has never transferred it....local government corruption, tax fraud.
Right... I sold a condo in Tarpon last month, I hope they don't get mad and call the news on me because I didn't tell them beforehand and get their permission.
The lesson: if you are going to live on a golf course, check to make certain it cannot be sold out from under you. Also: golf courses exist to make money, not to be a place for reflection. And: this sounds like some strange money laundering stuff…
Check to make sure it cannot be sold out from under you? The residents did not live on the golf course. They lived next to it. It would be like your neighbor expecting you to tell him your future plans for your home and get his okay before you sold it.
I would just like to know who these people think they are that they can question someone's private business? If it was me, my first, and only, response would be "None of your damn business who bought it or what they are going to do with it!"
@@petert1692 You are wrong. If the owner wants to sell it he can sell it. What the new owners plan to do with it is up to them. My guess is that if the new owner is planning to do something different with it that requires a zoning change he has already looked into that and has an agreement in place with the municipality. Smart people typically don't lay out that kind of money without having their ducks in a row. Regardless, the people who live next to it have zero say in what happens to it. If the neighbors don't like that then they can buy it and do whatever they want with it. Otherwise, they can pound sand.
Sold 2 years ago and never recorded. I think it's time for the state to start regulating these hoa and cdd more stringently. Also the state need to look into the county officials and force them to clean up their records.
@@irwinsaltzman979 it's the same here but the cdd and hoa have no government department managing them not on local, state or federal level. They are basically doing what they want.
Good grief, the sell of the golf course has absolutely nothing to do with the residents. Are they that clueless? Sounds like a rich people problem. Get a life, there are hundreds and thousands of homeless people with no view of a golf course and they’re not complaining
Effects there property taxes especially if it becomes a Walmart there place will be worthless that’s why groups of people by golf land behind them to protect themselves they should’ve been giving a chance to buy
If the homeowners are worried why dont they buy it. This happened in my area. The "clubhouse" wasn't making any money so the HOA did the only thing it could think of. They tore it down and built a bigger one. The thing is, the people STILL weren't going in. Still no money coming in. They have over 300 houses and condos on that golf course and cant fill up a restaurant. Screw them.
Same thing happened more than 7 years ago to the Badlands Golf Course in Summerlin Las Vegas. The Queensridge residents and the City tried to BLOCK the development of housing on the land and now have LOST MANY MANY MILLIONS of the taxpayers money.
"is it too late?" -welp, considering it was SOLD 2 years ago, it might be too late to do anything about a private sale of private property to a private individual...
Does seem a little bit confusing that the government records don't show the new owner. Who's paying the property tax? And if the property was owned by a 501c3 corporation and now it isn't then there are income taxes to be paid as well. There may be something shady going on here. But people who live next to the golf course don't have any right to that information.
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office. The county appraiser's website has now been updated to reflect the current owner.
These Karen's are all over the place what business is it of theirs who buys some thing I never seen anything like it today what's going on today with these Karen's
I spent 20 years selling to golf course superintendents in the ATL market. This situation came up multiple times. If you just happen to live in a “golf neighborhood” and have nothing giving you rights or access to the course then you are SOOL. There’s a lot of marketing that talks up the golf courses in some instances though. Even with no actual legal claim, people buy because of close proximity to a course and the hopefully positive impact on resale value and such. Encouraged by a real estate agent. So the course can definitely be used to sell homes. Then there’s neighborhoods where a membership or discounts are part of the home purchase. Once again, the course being used to sell homes. The homeowner may have legal claims here. The answer as usual is in the fine print. I’ve seen lawsuits tie up a sale or development for years from people who were “buying near a golf course” but have no real legal claim in regards to the case at all. Usually it’s folks that can’t afford or don’t really want a full country club membership, just a nice neighborhood. Did the course enhance the home and its value? Sure, probably did. But if you didn’t pay for the course, if you’re not an actual member, if you have nothing in writing, then you have no claim. And trust me, there’s nothing more sad than a course that is shut down and the maintenance abandoned. It gets ugly really fast and takes a whole lot of money to restore it. I encourage anyone in this position to avoid forcing club owners to shut down. You won’t like what happens.
It's that way because the county is up to no good behind the scenes. If you dig around a lil bit I'd be you'll find the land is now attached to some sort of "Affordable Housing" as part of the new development.
Developers said the golf course has been losing money for years, and no buyer has wanted to maintain it. Sounds like a rundown golf course that is at end of life.
I am sorry but you have no rights if its not your land, no one has to telll you anything if its not your land! WELCOME TO AMERICA! THEY DONT HAVE TO EXPLAIN NOTHING BECAUSE YOU DONT OWN LAND NEXT DOOR
Sounds like they should have been playing more if they didn't want the possibility of this happening. The entitlement it takes to think you have a say in someone's private property is about normal for the golf community, unfortunately. Used to be a nice relaxing time. These sorts are rampant now, though.
If you play golf ,buy a house in the golf course community instead of building new golf courses ??? The response usually is " I don't want to buy a previously used house "!!!
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office.
This is happening all over. There are too many golf courses and not as many people playing. That land is very valuable and we have a housing shortage. But buying the land and getting it rezoned and developed are two different things. If you live next to a golf course that is closed and is just sitting there, of course it will be sold.
Same thing with people that buy homes out in the country and then thinking they have all that gorgeous looking forest view in the background of their home forever. Then 2 or 3 years late the forest gets cleared out and developed and the homeowners complain but they did not own the other acreage.
This happened to a golf community near me. Several concerned citizens got together to form a committee - gathered funds for legal, and, created an online presence to raise awareness. They couldn't keep it a golf course, but, managed to get the town to buy it. They are now building an elementary school, a senior center, with the remainder to be a park. Lots better than more houses.
You described a community called to action. These people, on the other hand, would rather gripe and whine on the news rather than ante up and actually do something about it. You see, that's free. The community you mentioned seems like they pooled their money together, which definitely is not free.
This is what happens when people don't support the golf course so it gets sold and either the new owners improves it or make plans to put something else in its place.
Sometimes they build a golf course in a community and make it a private course but not enough residents golf so can’t maintain the course ,then they will open it up to the public.
Same people that complain that the golfers are hitting their homes and cars with golf balls. They own property boarding the course,not the course itself.
I'm the type of person that would tell these people something terrible is going to be going in where the golf course is just to piss them off a little more. I can't tolerate entitled people.
Yes, the land is owned by someone else, so they can do with it what they may, but these home owners paid a premium for those lots. This is going to devalue their homes.
Oh boy! If that stand of woods along Ridgemoor Blvd. is part of the golf course, there are infinite possibilities for that property. Three of the golf courses I've played in leagues are something else now.
If golf courses are closing because of fewer golfers, blame it on the green fees. A lot of Senior citizens on Social Security and younger people trying to afford rent/ or mortgage can not afford the expensive green fees. They charge these high green fees thinking everyone is wealthy. What they don't realize is the great majority of people don't have wealthy incomes. Wealthy people can afford golf. The average person can't.
I’m thinking about selling my vehicle. Can the residents discuss how they feel about that too? I need guidance and to get it from a team of dolts is fine by me.
Back in the late 80's & 90"s it seemed as though every new development being built had to have a "championship" golf course. It was a great sales tool. People wanted to be known for living in a "golf course community", and that niche of housing became saturated. Now, if the people living in those communities actually played golf, then perhaps they could have been sustainable. But fact is, too many of those communities were built with non golfers living there, and the courses couldn't make money. I feel for the residents in this situation, but it would be interesting to poll them and see how many of them actually utilize the golf course. BTW, I'm an avid golfer, and hate to see courses close - but, they're open to make money, not be an ornamental amenity.
You as a homeowner or potential buyer have the right to go to county and find out who own's the property that abuts yours. Does the city own it? HOA own it? Developer own it? You can then research what that Business does. That is all you can do unless there is a rezone of the property. I have seen more cases than not that there is a big risk of buying a home on a golf course. One comes to mind is where do they get there water from? Could be a problem if the county or the water management agency changes the rules.
LLCs should not be anonymous. Our corporate overlords have taken over everything and we should have the right to know who the true owners are. Could be some random foreign company.
@@Brad_Huff Are you seriously comparing a video sharing site user ID to "faceless" corporations that own hundreds of billions worth (if not trillions) of companies / real estate in the US?
@@info781 When did I say it was bad for a corporation to own land? _Chinese Companies Keep Buying U.S. Land Near Military Bases_ _The Biden administration issued an order this week forcing a Chinese-backed cryptocurrency mining firm, MineOne, to divest from land it owns in Wyoming that just so happens to be very close to a U.S. Air Force base that houses nuclear weapons._ _In 2023, a Chinese food producer, the Fufeng Group, bought 370 acres of land near an Air Force base in North Dakota_
The name of the manager of Tarpon Woods Properties LLC, the present owner of the property, is publicly available on the Florida Division of Corporations website.
I'm wondering if Bill's aunt and subsequently his parents asked for permission to buy the first properties for houses there? Surely, there were people in the vicinity who would have complained about the sales had they been informed.
Most of the little courses here in Atlanta were sold off years ago to build neighborhoods. It's a good trip in the car to play golf anywhere around Metro Atlanta.
It takes time that for the records to be updated at the city level. It takes a while for sold homes to show up online as sold and the new owner information. These neighbors are jerks IMHO.
if the membership at the club was down, maybe they could have created a disc golf course there instead and plant some trees...people are so entitled now days...
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office. The county appraiser's website has now been updated to reflect the current owner.
Effects there property taxes especially if it becomes a Walmart there place will be worthless that’s why groups of people by golf land behind them to protect themselves they should’ve been giving a chance to buy
Nobody cares until it happens to them. Wait til they Cram "Affordable Housing" on that land. Pinellas County's BIG PUSH. 80% of the AAI to qualify, it's not to help the "Firefighters, Teachers, Nurses, first responders they tell you it will be for. The developer with get a stipend from the county to put "Affordable Housing" on that land. Good Luck to the homeowners that lived on a golf course but will now be surrounded by it. Follow the Money as they say. The County is soooo deep in bed with the Affordable Housing Developers, you have NO SHOT at stopping it.
So I am assuming if you own some property you really can’t do what you as the owner want to do with it? If the people that live there have paid for memberships and are assessed money for maintenance of the course then yeah they should complain. Otherwise the owner of the golf course property can do what he (they) want to do as permitted by code and zoning ordinances.
Ironic that they are selling a golf course and closing it at the same time our sleazy governor is trying to get new ones built inside of our state parks without letting the public in on it.
You live “next” to the course, not “on” the course. The owners can do what they want with their property. Nothing you can do about it.
Well... you can not just rezone recreational land into housing developments or a cement factory. That is why we have zoning. But in this case the owners have not put forward anything, maybe they just want to sit on it for 20 years.
@@info781 Yes you can rezone it. Happens all the time. Unless the land has a clause in the initial agreement with the county.
@@steveconkey7362 Of course, but that has to go though a approvals process with the government. You can not just build whatever you want because you own it.
@@info781 how or where was any reference to Zoning?
Shut the hell up.
@@info781rezoning is always announced and most people don’t bother to look at the notifications until it’s too late.
They don’t live on the golf course, they live on property boarding it. You can’t control what happens on property you don’t own as long as it was purchased legally.
Happened in my city a few years ago. The golf course was separately owned from the homes. They sold it and new homes were built. The golf course owner said golf memberships had decreased because the younger generations weren't playing golf.
Concerned for my own golf course community. Never thought this was a thing.
this is happening all over the country
@@LadieKadie Ask questions about the economics of the golf course near you. Is it making money or breaking even? That will tell you the future.
@@LadieKadieIf there is a dollar to be made they will sure enough do it.
@@sharonrose50I would. Paying property taxes on something that isn’t making money or at least breaking even has to be sold.
If the land is private they are under no obligation to tell people it sold. If they want to build homes and can get it redesigned for homes they can. Not recording the sale to the government is troubling and needs to be reviewed by the city and tax office
@countbenjamin1442 " Not recording the sale to the government is troubling and needs to be reviewed by the city and tax office" Perhaps you've never heard of a "closing" at a Title company.
The responsibility to make that "report" is on the Title Company. It is basically impossible for a title company not to report the sale of real property.
@@Navschannel3908 " but the owners want to remain private "
@@ZestayTaco Perhaps you don't understand how Title Companies work... short lesson, they are bonded and insured, and if they fail to meet the requirements of State law... they are closed.
so it goes like this... Owners sell, before the closing... the title company has to research the land and historical encumbrances and certifies the land after the sale all those issues have been cleared up... oh ya, then there's the whole Tax thing... ya, now way around that either.
The website not being updated, ya irrelevant in context of legal or illegal... it's what is called a "nonsequiteur" .
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office. The county appraiser's website has now been updated to reflect the current owner.
It's not your property, folks. People are allowed to sell their property to whoever they want to.
nope.
Money talks the rest can walk 😂😂😂😂.
Facts!!
This is what I was thinking. I don't understand what power they think they have.
@@eldebtor6973 if it is not yours it can. it sucks 4 them.
If we only had this much outrage about corruption in government
Two thumbs up...
About trump and his treasonous insurrection you mean
That's the issue though, that you obviously missed, the new owners are getting tax protection by using previous owners name on the deed, property appraiser has never transferred it....local government corruption, tax fraud.
Maintaining a golf course is an expensive amenity.
Sounds like foreign investors.
get a better job and you could be an investor lol
Like the Chinese rich, who are getting TF out of China due to crackdowns on the uber rich.
Yayyyyyyyyyy
These homeowners need to know how to control other people's personal property.
Right... I sold a condo in Tarpon last month, I hope they don't get mad and call the news on me because I didn't tell them beforehand and get their permission.
I got the same Karen neighbors they want me to report to them everything I do want my property
No one said anything about control, they just want to know who owns it.
Funny coming from a trailer park dweller
Get some new material, Mike.
Does everyone living there need to ask permission from all the neighbors before selling their home? Its not your property so its not your business.
The lesson: if you are going to live on a golf course, check to make certain it cannot be sold out from under you. Also: golf courses exist to make money, not to be a place for reflection. And: this sounds like some strange money laundering stuff…
Check to make sure it cannot be sold out from under you? The residents did not live on the golf course. They lived next to it. It would be like your neighbor expecting you to tell him your future plans for your home and get his okay before you sold it.
I would just like to know who these people think they are that they can question someone's private business? If it was me, my first, and only, response would be "None of your damn business who bought it or what they are going to do with it!"
There are zoning rules. So you’re wrong. No, you cannot do whatever you want. That’s why you research before buying property.
@@petert1692it's a skin golf course . There's probably a 100 better uses.
@@kamman1374
Can you please explain what a skin golf course is.
Thx
@@petert1692 You are wrong. If the owner wants to sell it he can sell it. What the new owners plan to do with it is up to them. My guess is that if the new owner is planning to do something different with it that requires a zoning change he has already looked into that and has an agreement in place with the municipality. Smart people typically don't lay out that kind of money without having their ducks in a row. Regardless, the people who live next to it have zero say in what happens to it. If the neighbors don't like that then they can buy it and do whatever they want with it. Otherwise, they can pound sand.
@@kennetzel6101 Great Answer until it happens to you. Then somebody saying to go pound sand has a different meaning.
There's a "BIG" difference between "That's not accurate" and "That's not going to happen."
Sold 2 years ago and never recorded. I think it's time for the state to start regulating these hoa and cdd more stringently. Also the state need to look into the county officials and force them to clean up their records.
Agree. Most states require county records to show the owner of the property so taxes can be collected etc. maybe Florida different rules.
Yea good luck with that🤣 Ron doesn’t give a flying fuck about you he’s lining his pockets
HOA needs to be banned and outlawed
pure theft no need to be polite when your being ROBBED!
@@irwinsaltzman979 it's the same here but the cdd and hoa have no government department managing them not on local, state or federal level. They are basically doing what they want.
Good grief, the sell of the golf course has absolutely nothing to do with the residents. Are they that clueless? Sounds like a rich people problem. Get a life, there are hundreds and thousands of homeless people with no view of a golf course and they’re not complaining
Effects there property taxes especially if it becomes a Walmart there place will be worthless that’s why groups of people by golf land behind them to protect themselves they should’ve been giving a chance to buy
If the homeowners are worried why dont they buy it. This happened in my area. The "clubhouse" wasn't making any money so the HOA did the only thing it could think of. They tore it down and built a bigger one. The thing is, the people STILL weren't going in. Still no money coming in. They have over 300 houses and condos on that golf course and cant fill up a restaurant. Screw them.
Same thing happened more than 7 years ago to the Badlands Golf Course in Summerlin Las Vegas. The Queensridge residents and the City tried to BLOCK the development of housing on the land and now have LOST MANY MANY MILLIONS of the taxpayers money.
"is it too late?"
-welp, considering it was SOLD 2 years ago, it might be too late to do anything about a private sale of private property to a private individual...
😂
They don't own it.. F what they think.
Does seem a little bit confusing that the government records don't show the new owner. Who's paying the property tax? And if the property was owned by a 501c3 corporation and now it isn't then there are income taxes to be paid as well. There may be something shady going on here. But people who live next to the golf course don't have any right to that information.
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office. The county appraiser's website has now been updated to reflect the current owner.
The nerve!!!!! How dare you sell your own property and not tell us!!!
Why is anyone expecting to be “notified” by a private sale?
The neighbors are ridiculous. They don't own the golf course. They have NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN.
These Karen's are all over the place what business is it of theirs who buys some thing I never seen anything like it today what's going on today with these Karen's
I spent 20 years selling to golf course superintendents in the ATL market. This situation came up multiple times. If you just happen to live in a “golf neighborhood” and have nothing giving you rights or access to the course then you are SOOL. There’s a lot of marketing that talks up the golf courses in some instances though. Even with no actual legal claim, people buy because of close proximity to a course and the hopefully positive impact on resale value and such. Encouraged by a real estate agent. So the course can definitely be used to sell homes. Then there’s neighborhoods where a membership or discounts are part of the home purchase. Once again, the course being used to sell homes. The homeowner may have legal claims here.
The answer as usual is in the fine print. I’ve seen lawsuits tie up a sale or development for years from people who were “buying near a golf course” but have no real legal claim in regards to the case at all. Usually it’s folks that can’t afford or don’t really want a full country club membership, just a nice neighborhood.
Did the course enhance the home and its value? Sure, probably did. But if you didn’t pay for the course, if you’re not an actual member, if you have nothing in writing, then you have no claim. And trust me, there’s nothing more sad than a course that is shut down and the maintenance abandoned. It gets ugly really fast and takes a whole lot of money to restore it.
I encourage anyone in this position to avoid forcing club owners to shut down. You won’t like what happens.
It’s not yours, it can be sold!
Why is this property listed as a 501(c)3, it shouldn't be tax exempt.
It's that way because the county is up to no good behind the scenes. If you dig around a lil bit I'd be you'll find the land is now attached to some sort of "Affordable Housing" as part of the new development.
Developers said the golf course has been losing money for years, and no buyer has wanted to maintain it. Sounds like a rundown golf course that is at end of life.
I did not hear that in the story, do you have local knowledge?
@@info781 Went out and googled the golf course name and there are a few local news articles on the subject.
I am sorry but you have no rights if its not your land, no one has to telll you anything if its not your land!
WELCOME TO AMERICA!
THEY DONT HAVE TO EXPLAIN NOTHING BECAUSE YOU DONT OWN LAND NEXT DOOR
The entitlement of some people is mind boggling.
This is Florida!
You know, like it’s a rogue land open for capitalism.
You voted for desantis.
Desantis, FFS
Sounds like they should have been playing more if they didn't want the possibility of this happening. The entitlement it takes to think you have a say in someone's private property is about normal for the golf community, unfortunately. Used to be a nice relaxing time. These sorts are rampant now, though.
If you play golf ,buy a house in the golf course community instead of building new golf courses ???
The response usually is
" I don't want to buy a previously used house "!!!
It was sold two years ago and the local records have not been filed? Sounds suspicious.
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office.
Good! I love these stories every time I read them, and they are happening more and more.
No, that’s very accurate. Houses will be built on that land….back door deals
BINGO
Better than having a golf course.
@@kamman1374 Not necessarily. Be careful what you wish for.......
Because you think it was zoned as golf course only? Maybe it’s gonna be an Amazon warehouse.
Drastically change to home prices if the golf course is built on
Not always.
Awesome here comes the developers getting rich on density, then leaving! Awesome
This is happening all over. There are too many golf courses and not as many people playing. That land is very valuable and we have a housing shortage. But buying the land and getting it rezoned and developed are two different things. If you live next to a golf course that is closed and is just sitting there, of course it will be sold.
Same thing with people that buy homes out in the country and then thinking they have all that gorgeous looking forest view in the background of their home forever. Then 2 or 3 years late the forest gets cleared out and developed and the homeowners complain but they did not own the other acreage.
Hey Florida, once there’s a public meeting announcement, the bulldozers are already on order.
Shady for sure 👀
Why does the owner owe any of these people an explanation?
This happened to a golf community near me. Several concerned citizens got together to form a committee - gathered funds for legal, and, created an online presence to raise awareness. They couldn't keep it a golf course, but, managed to get the town to buy it. They are now building an elementary school, a senior center, with the remainder to be a park. Lots better than more houses.
You described a community called to action. These people, on the other hand, would rather gripe and whine on the news rather than ante up and actually do something about it. You see, that's free. The community you mentioned seems like they pooled their money together, which definitely is not free.
good for them! very smart
Terrible. We need more houses. They should have built houses. The concerned citizens were awful IMHO.
This is what happens when people don't support the golf course so it gets sold and either the new owners improves it or make plans to put something else in its place.
Sometimes they build a golf course in a community and make it a private course but not enough residents golf so can’t maintain the course ,then they will open it up to the public.
Nobody needs to tell them anything...
Same people that complain that the golfers are hitting their homes and cars with golf balls. They own property boarding the course,not the course itself.
Lower prices for a round will encourage a little more interest
I'm the type of person that would tell these people something terrible is going to be going in where the golf course is just to piss them off a little more.
I can't tolerate entitled people.
These people are not entitled. They had to pay a premium for those lots and or homes. They’re going to lose money because of it.
Do we also have to notify our neighbors every time we sell our house?
Yes, the land is owned by someone else, so they can do with it what they may, but these home owners paid a premium for those lots. This is going to devalue their homes.
Oh boy! If that stand of woods along Ridgemoor Blvd. is part of the golf course, there are infinite possibilities for that property. Three of the golf courses I've played in leagues are something else now.
If golf courses are closing because of fewer golfers, blame it on the green fees. A lot of Senior citizens on Social Security and younger people trying to afford rent/ or mortgage can not afford the expensive green fees.
They charge these high green fees thinking everyone is wealthy. What they don't realize is the great majority of people don't have wealthy incomes. Wealthy people can afford golf. The average person can't.
I’m thinking about selling my vehicle. Can the residents discuss how they feel about that too? I need guidance and to get it from a team of dolts is fine by me.
Back in the late 80's & 90"s it seemed as though every new development being built had to have a "championship" golf course. It was a great sales tool. People wanted to be known for living in a "golf course community", and that niche of housing became saturated. Now, if the people living in those communities actually played golf, then perhaps they could have been sustainable. But fact is, too many of those communities were built with non golfers living there, and the courses couldn't make money. I feel for the residents in this situation, but it would be interesting to poll them and see how many of them actually utilize the golf course. BTW, I'm an avid golfer, and hate to see courses close - but, they're open to make money, not be an ornamental amenity.
You as a homeowner or potential buyer have the right to go to county and find out who own's the property that abuts yours. Does the city own it? HOA own it? Developer own it? You can then research what that Business does. That is all you can do unless there is a rezone of the property. I have seen more cases than not that there is a big risk of buying a home on a golf course. One comes to mind is where do they get there water from? Could be a problem if the county or the water management agency changes the rules.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) bought it so they could build a new prison that includes a Golf Course for Trump.
How to say you are a moron, without saying you are a moron! 😮
I like it!
LLCs should not be anonymous. Our corporate overlords have taken over everything and we should have the right to know who the true owners are. Could be some random foreign company.
You post that under a random user name. PRICELESS!
@@Brad_Huff Are you seriously comparing a video sharing site user ID to "faceless" corporations that own hundreds of billions worth (if not trillions) of companies / real estate in the US?
@@HKim0072 This is a free country, why is it bad for a corporation to own land?
@@info781 When did I say it was bad for a corporation to own land?
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The name of the manager of Tarpon Woods Properties LLC, the present owner of the property, is publicly available on the Florida Division of Corporations website.
I'm wondering if Bill's aunt and subsequently his parents asked for permission to buy the first properties for houses there? Surely, there were people in the vicinity who would have complained about the sales had they been informed.
I don’t get it -what is the problem with new ownership? - this happens every day in business
Most of the little courses here in Atlanta were sold off years ago to build neighborhoods. It's a good trip in the car to play golf anywhere around Metro Atlanta.
It takes time that for the records to be updated at the city level. It takes a while for sold homes to show up online as sold and the new owner information. These neighbors are jerks IMHO.
if the membership at the club was down, maybe they could have created a disc golf course there instead and plant some trees...people are so entitled now days...
Big selling point in that neighborhood, hiding its sale, still 501 C. Just a wicked deal and there should be a very hard stop to it. Lawsuits
The transfer deed would have been recorded at the time of sale in a different county office than the Pinellas County Property Appraiser. Unquestionably, the buyer would have ensured that their interest in the property was protected by timely recording the new deed when the sale was consummated. They had $1.65M on the line. The failure of the appraiser's website to have been updated would have been a county issue, not the fault of the seller or the buyer. The complaining neighboring property owners failed to properly research the sale in the county recorder's office, the Clerk of the Circuit Court and Comptroller. That is the office in which a sale would have been recorded, not the county appraiser's office. The county appraiser's website has now been updated to reflect the current owner.
Unless the homeowners own the golf course then it’s none of their business to be fair,but the tax issue is,well,an issue
Floriduh, ask Guv'nr DiSaster if he got paid under the table. 😅
Says the Gillum supporter
New Amazon distribution center coming soon.
Because it's Floridaduh......🤬 The people have a right to now 🤬🤬🤬
How many people do I need to tell if I sell my house…..a big fat 0….not your land not your business
Greed is ruining America
Already ruined
Correction: America is greed.
Entitlement is ruining America. And everyone in that room complaining is a perfect example of it.
Since 1776
Perhaps any changes will lead to a more diverse community.
Never buy a house with an HOA!
A meeting about what , things they can not control. He should tell them f... off not your concern.
Do they have memberships to golf course?
Effects there property taxes especially if it becomes a Walmart there place will be worthless that’s why groups of people by golf land behind them to protect themselves they should’ve been giving a chance to buy
Residents should hire a PI. Theres at least fraud going on.
What kind of fraud? This is business.
LMAO...citizens think they have a say in the private sale of a golf course. Bunch of clowns. 🤡🤡
Nobody cares until it happens to them. Wait til they Cram "Affordable Housing" on that land. Pinellas County's BIG PUSH. 80% of the AAI to qualify, it's not to help the "Firefighters, Teachers, Nurses, first responders they tell you it will be for. The developer with get a stipend from the county to put "Affordable Housing" on that land. Good Luck to the homeowners that lived on a golf course but will now be surrounded by it. Follow the Money as they say. The County is soooo deep in bed with the Affordable Housing Developers, you have NO SHOT at stopping it.
I hope they build a lot of new houses there, we need housing
So is this a post from Florida ?
Not surprising. In many areas, there are too many golf courses but not enough golfers.
Maybe they should have bought the course for the community? Sounds like a bunch of whiney people.
So I am assuming if you own some property you really can’t do what you as the owner want to do with it? If the people that live there have paid for memberships and are assessed money for maintenance of the course then yeah they should complain. Otherwise the owner of the golf course property can do what he (they) want to do as permitted by code and zoning ordinances.
Neighborhood golf courses are disappearing everywhere 😮
Enough is enough
No more developments period
Ironic that they are selling a golf course and closing it at the same time our sleazy governor is trying to get new ones built inside of our state parks without letting the public in on it.
Exactly what I thought
Hopefully, much needed low income housing will be built on the existing golf course bringing much needed diversity into this neighborhood! 😂
Oh well. You didn't own it.
They don't own the course.....do they???
they built houses on property they did not own? wow. owner has every right to sell
Where are the politicians to answer questions sounds like somebody got paid under the table and also sounds like tax fraud
Probably affordable housing at best, at worse government housing.
Same people don't say a thing about millions coming over the border as long as its not in their hood
Oh poor them,,, no more golf course right outside your front door and now more homes will be erected.
Terrible reporting. I know less now than i did before this garbage video
Low income housing?????
“Sold 2 years ago” lol!!!
More friggin golf courses than parks for the people. Piss on golf!
Everybody complaining about someone’s else’s property it’s none of their business it’s private property they can do what they want with it