Just because I've seen some discussion about it below: Girona could play in the Champions League next season because City Group only owns 47% of the club, the rule banning clubs from the same ownership group appearing in the same European competition applies to controlling stakes, and city group doesn't have a full controlling stake in Girona. I could be wrong, I am but a man, but that's the way it seems to be interpreted in this case.
I'd argue that the inevitable fate of the Champion's League is to face off multiple teams, all co-owned by City (or whichever corpo will dominate at that point) in the finals. I expect City to pop out a few extra teams like this in the other leagues soon. PSG & Bayern could face some serious hurt. Though at that point... What's the point anymore?
@@davidanitoiu7476 i dont think you are looking at it in the right way. I´m not a City fan by any means, but im not so negative about their ownership of teams across the leagues in this kind of fashion. It is important to take into consideration, that they are not creating a club out of thin air or taking a team and completely taking away their history (like RB did with teams like Salzburg, or also City Group did this before they found out that it has its issues), only giving some resources to the original club to give them opportunity to grow. Its not really a spending frenzy with them having a chance to take over the leagues, if they can push Palermo or Troyes into being a healthy Serie A/Ligue 1 contender to replace some bankrupt teams, they can be my guest.
@@oliverlongauer3222 Once you changed the coaches, all the players, and give them access to City's scouting network and negotiators... it's not really the same club anymore, is it? It won't happen over night, but given a few iterations, this team is nothing more than "Man City B - Italy" "Man City B - France A" "Man City B - France B" etc etc That club history is little more than some dates & names on a paper. This is going down deep, dark philosophical places like "Ghost in the Shell" It also means that after a few iterations of this madness.... the best games can't happen anymore, because you got all the best players tied up under the same umbrella. Some beancounters & lawyers in penguin suits will decide which team should win, based on which one generates the best returns upon winning. And ofc the game is fixed, but then it's also not fixed... like... it's complicated, and it's all about lawyers lawyering over whether that's within the rules or not, and then a few fines are paid, which are offset against the profits as: "cost of doing business" I find this both disgusting and inevitable.
Yes. I do think what is lacking in this video is good research on the CFG portfolio. You bring up Troyes and their poor results. The only City player they've ever been given to actually play for them is Issa Kabore. They are pretty much a front for City. This being very obvious with Savio. Savio is a CFG player placed at Troyes in order to launder the player. Hands are clean, on paper, before they 'move' his contract to City. You bring up Palermo. This club has been a mess for years. With CFG they are seeing huge improvements in running the club. The results are on the up. But they are not in the top tier. Sending players to the second tier in Italy is not as good as sending them to Girona in the top league. Hence I think you've set some premises for your argument about CFG that are not completely valid. These clubs are not the same thing, that A=B is not true for all of them given situation and context. So your false premise of saying A should equal B for all of these CFG clubs (therefore look at how great Girona is) is not valid.
3:22 "A team called Zaragoza"? Come on Zealand! Zaragoza are 6 time Spanish Cup winners and a 1 time UEFA Cup winners! They're not a random team that happened to be around at the time.
@@johnathenjencks4356I mean, they were more relevant than Girona at the time because of their history… not to mention they’d been a yo-yo club in the Spanish leagues for a while too.
@@SanFranFan30People would actually do that since most people aren't british and nobody since the 70s gives a dann about Nottingham. In fact, many people in the 21. century only know them because Lingaard played half a decent season with them People do that on a regular when your club isnt relevant. Which goes for both Forrest and Zaragoza.
They're doing amazing, but have to say, all that influence and such, can do wonders to change a club's direction. While I get it doesn't always work, but sometimes it does.
Never has it to this degree though, they shouldn't be challenging for the title. Maybe Conference League at most, but Top Half of the lague more reastically.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the club's chairman is Pere Guardiola, Pep Guardiola's younger brother, who is also a football agent. He joined the board as 2nd largest shareholder after the City Group back in 2017, although he's no longer such a prominent shareholder.
Yeah, the way they get dodgy, favourable deals that they wouldn't get otherwise in order to circumvent the FFP restrictions. Pretty disappointed at how Zealand brushes over it as "talked Barcelona into" for example, when it's pretty well documented that part of the deal for City to sell Cancelo to Barca was for them to allow Garcia to Girona for a very heavy discount. Sure the players have put in amazing work to get where they are, just like City have done for a while now, but just like their 115 FFP charges show, it wasn't entirely fair and they're following in the same suit with Girona. And if you're wondering why did City Football Group start to help Girona so much despite all the other clubs part of the group, it's because Pep Guardiola's brother invested into Girona and became chairman. Great achievement by the players already, but the club isn't exactly playing by the same rules as everyone else and it definitely sullies what they are doing.
I want a Troyes based sequel, how since they have been aquired by the City group, they have gone from Ligue 1 to now being in relegation from Ligue 2 and having their highest Transfer be a Girona loanee that's going to Man City
Troyes is a newer acquisition, putting systems in place takes time. Troyes will be back in the top division soon and more than likely competing for European football.
Now please do video about Wisla Krakow from Poland. They were top club, minutes from champions league and after that was their downfall. Gangsters sold this club to a scammer named Vanna Ly, and after that Kuba Blaszczykowski and two other people begin rebuild. Now as owner of that club is Harry Potter of Artifical Intelligence: Jaroslaw Krolewski. Really hartbreaking story.
I actually did this coaching course in Spain and we got a tour of the girona training grounds and stadiums and they taught us about there ethos and youth systems, it’s pretty insane how much work they put into youth recruitment especially considering all the best players are likely to be poached by Barca they seemed to know how to identify a future first team player by the time they could barely tie there shoes and knew exactly what to do to get them there
QUestion from me: Why they trying so hard if they won't be able to play in Europe? By UEFAs regulation 2 teams from 1 owner cannot play against eachother or even have a chance of it, so no CL and EL or ECL, as there is chance team higher will fall lower.
How? Leicester was their second season in the prem, after nearly being relegated, in the world's most competitive top flight with modest wealth for the prem, this club has literally been gifted insane talent from their owners other teams to help cement themselves in the top 10 but are exceeding expectations and sitting in a UCL place.
@randomshotz13 Their wage budget considering inflation is less than Leicesters, they've spent less money than Leicester. You are aware that Leicesters owners are multi-billionaires are you not?
City Group's multi-club network model is a lot less of a cheat code than I think haters think it is. Yes, Man City has unlimited budget and resources, but that only applies to Man City. The rest of the clubs have way more limited resources even relative to the leagues they play in. Yes, you do get the occasional shady in-network transfers of questionable value but it's not worse or more frequent than non-network clubs do anyway. It's not a Juventus situation. The City Group scouting network is a great resource but it's still up to the clubs to use that resource correctly. I can tell you that NYCFC has not been as successful as Girona when it comes to scouting young talent. The teams still need to put in the work of finding talent, developing talent, and playing winning football just like the any other club. There's way more game-breaking corruption and finances in Football than multi-club ownership, at least as City Group has implemented it.
Exactly, this is what I have been trying to explain. Just cause one of the teams in the city group has unlimited funds doesn't mean that every club in the city group has the resources to be able to exploit this. If not Melbourne would be the best team in Australia and New York City FC would be the best team in the MLS.
You're delusional to think this is a small reason Girona are doing well. They're owned by the CFG, cheaters. You can bury your head in the sand and call this an underdog story but it is not. They're not operating at the level people think they are, they have access to resources many times above clubs at their supposed level.
Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. 6 behind Midrid after back to back defeats. Hopefully Leverkusen don't slip up in Germany and hopefully Girona steady the ship for champions league football next season. Football needs good underdog stories, otherwise you may as well weatch Scottish football.
People comparing Girona's success to Man City are just stupid, I can guarantee they ve never heard of more than 4 girona players. There isnt any player that was worth more than just a couple millions coming into this year
Well said, they don't know what they're talking about. They just see that they are of the CFG and think corruption and billions spent, when Girona hasn't done any of that.
It's not stupid. They are privy to their scout network so they get players that aren't on that level yet and then receive the payment when City wants to pick them up.
@@Dante-mr3rz Loads of clubs have good scouting networks, there are loads of multi-club models as well that are not doing great, even other City group clubs are not doing that great. Simple thing to look at is wage budget, they have the 13th highest wage budget and are competing at the top of the league, that is simply amazing, City is pretty irrelevant compared to those facts.
Tsygankov was worth more than 20 millions before this season. Dobvyk 15, Aleix Garcia 10, Miguel Gutierrez 10, Eric García, 15, Yangel Herrera was worth 20 at Espanyol before going to Girona. Yes, after this season the team value will go up by a lot but don't make up random stupid numbers. You are the one that doesn't know a thing about LaLiga. The less valuable squad in the spanish first division is worth more than what you are suggesting.
12:48 Dnipro, not Dinapro :D A little bit more about Ukrainian players: you didn't mention one of the best Girona's midfielders Victor Tsygankov, they bought him from Dynamo Kyiv half-season before Artem Dovbyk Now Girona is one of the most popular football clubs in Ukraine, we even use a meme for it "cheering for Girona since childhood" :D
Yes they can, it helps to look beyond media headlines. City own 44% and both clubs have different management's structures. RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig were allowed in the CL for exactly the same reasons.
Nice video Z. But I think that one of the biggest reasons apart from the City scouting it´s that you are telling a player like Dobvyk or Tsygankov: hey if you perform well you´ll be on Man City. Thats the game changer otherwise they wouldn´t have convinced players like that to join a 10º side in la liga. Also shotout to Michel he´s a superb manager
GOOOL DEL LUGO!! That goal by Pablo Caballero is the goal of a team that I don't support that I have celebrated the most in my life. I am a Real Sporting de Gijón fan and that Girona defeat gave us promotion.
They really weren't outside of Spain, they came up finished 10th and then went down. Nobody cared when they came back up and no one paid attention last season, it's only now, we don't have to kid ourselves here.
1:15 no, it's not "regardless" it's precisely because of the net worth of the owner of the club. L.E. wikied their season finishes to see if i have to eat my words but no, before joining city group they never promoted to the 1st league and in 5 years since becoming a city group member they are fighting with barcelona for 2nd place or i guess with real for first.
also looked on transfermarkt at their transfers this season - over 100M euro this season on transfers. In 2016 before being acquired their top transfer deal was 2.5 mln, this year 30 mln. So again no, it's not "regardless". But disclaimer that i don't think this detracts anything from the players and the manager's contributions and success. Just that, you know, another somewhat superficially grown club thanks to oil money.
Like Leicester? Come on Z, thats a complete different thing. Girona is part of the City Group, no one should be surprised if one of those teams win things. Remembers me of the Heidenheim Video.
You're missing the part where la liga actively restricts club's from competing on an even playing field with the big boys, nevermind trying to outspend them. The regular top 3 spend more on wages of a single player than a newly promoted team can spend on their entire squad, so their wealthy owners aren't actually a big factor at all.
I don't like to repeat myself, but it's not always about the wages and buying players that are not in the same area. I said all that months ago about heidenheim because it's the same. The money there, floating around for the stadium, infrastructure, bla bla bla. Their facilities doesn't look like same level as celta or getafe. It's just funny how everybody says that clubs like heidenheim or girona are the real david's in football when thats nowhere near true. "Nice" to see those breakouts, but take a look behind the curtain.
@@joeknapper3013and to say their big daddys are not a big factor is crazy wrong. Savio is a good example, look at his career path, that guy is too good for troyes (actually never played for them) and girona. He's just parked there, when he explodes he will go to the club that bought him months ago, man city. The daddy clubs always got a huuuuuge impact on those teams.
@@mattikr0718 ok let's take your example, Savio. Had you heard of him before? Has his name been floating around before? Troyes signed him for €6.5m so the answer is a hard no, when Brazilian wonderkids now fetch 40m or higher (see endrick, rogrygo, vinicius for example). If he was being scouted by Europe's elite, like man city, there would have been a bit more attention around this guy. What about all the other big name players who play for teams within this ownership? Why aren't man citys fringe players on loan at Troyes or girona? Even if the end goal was to groom him for man city why didn't they just send him straight there, where they have the best training facilities, and then loan him out from there? They still have to pay fair market value for him which will be 6x what Troyes paid, it's I'm the ffp rules. So its not like they can transfer him for free, so I don't really see what your problem is? Girona are doing well on a shoestring budget, it's refreshing... Like Leicester did... Except they also had billionaire owners... And even with those, they had to be savvy with their transfers and win the league with a back four including Danny Simpson, Wes Morgan and Rob Huth. Gironas is a bunch of loans and freebies so not exactly cream of the crop either lol.
@@mattikr0718actually, girona has not recieved any money from the city football group, all they got is ceded players, scouting database and an annual friendly match, but no money
LOL, biggest under dog? they are owned by Man city owners, they have lent them players, sent players to them to get 1st team football. What next, Red Bull Salzberg a small club over achieving?
yes the girona story is great as is the leverkusen in germany but if u just scratch the surface abit the advantages city group and bayer as companies give to these teams cant be underestimated,the leicester city story contains no such hidden gems and that story wont ever be beaten i dont think even after all these years its still almost unthinkable that they won the premier league,the more u look into it the bigger underdogs they become in your mind,for such an average group of players and a journeyman manager to just somehow click for 38 games and win the best and toughest league on earth beggars belief,and when u add in stuff like the jamie vardy non league story stuff and the helicopter crash death of the chairman near the ground plus like 10 other things there is more than enough for a movie,unfortunately 99 percent of sport movies are shite
Leicesters owners were/are multi-billionaires. They invested in significant training facilities. Girona's budget is significantly less than theirs. Leicester was a great story but let's not pretend their owners were paupers.
So literally Girona is just Man City. A Championship/2nd division level club that got promotion up to the top division in the late 2000s/early 2010s and then had billions pumped into it to keep it there.
No not really. Machester is a European/international city, Girona is a Regional city to start with. The Girona team on paper is arguably one of the poorest in the division. Man Citys has always been good since the take over.
@@t.c.4321 You almost got it right. Manchester is an international city due to the industrial revolution and is a globally recognized area in football due to United. City are ONLY good because of the takeover
@@t.c.4321 Manchester as an area is only on the football map because of United. The only reason why people have even heard of City is because of the billions pumped into it
Bit different though isn't it. Leverkusen have one of the highest budgets in Germany, they've been in and out of the Champions league for the past 30 years. They've literally been to a champions league final. Gironas budget is literally 100k more than sabadell who were promoted last season.
When I was a kid, it was said that City was an acronym for Conference In Two Years. The Conference is what The National League used to be called. Before rich owners, City were nobodies too, just lucky FFP wasn't a thing yet
City were not nobodies before the takeover. Their history goes back to before the 1900's. At the time of their takeovers City had more major trophies than Chelsea. City weren't lucky that FFP didn't exist considering that the 150 years prior to their takeover no such rule existed. The rule was literally brought in to stop them overtaking the 'big clubs'.
Thats what United fans said, Villa fans also to Birmingham. It's an old footie joke. Man City were certainly not nobodies. Also, remember, their cross city rivals have spent considerably more than them for what amounts to the worlds luckiest pub team.
While its hilarious that Real and Barca have a state backed club to contend with, while trying to rob football with the ESL, its terrifying how much power City Group are getting on football.
The way you’ve presented Girona as some underdog side is actually crazy, blatantly just ignoring the City group influence that’s allowed this rise to happen
Eric Garcia was had just re-joined Barcelona having been at City. And then mysteriously gets a loan to Girona?! Yeah something dodgy and under the table happened there
@@StillAwesome21 You really are just legitimately hunting down and arguing with me ain't yah?! What's wrong? Did I upset the City fan boy? Do you secretly miss supporting Chelsea? 😅 Joking aside brother, its Friday, find something better to do rather than getting triggered on RUclips
@@LewisPearsie Lewis I don't know what to tell you but the British pronunciation of the city is wrong and anyone who speaks Spanish that uses it is like when British people say soccer to me to make me feel accommodated
@@LewisPearsie It's like the Spanish say their country's name is Spain rather than España. They're just trying to make it easier for you when they speak English to you.
@@StillAwesome21 not saying it’s not impressive but it’s nothing close to what Leicester achieved, I think people forget the players Leicester won the league with haha. Also you can’t ignore the City group influence and power that’s helped Girona immensely.
lol, clearly this was made before the real madrid match, where they got *smashed!* they are a tidy lil team, and play some great soccer, but there's zero chance they win la liga now, real madrid is levels better, and only getting stronger.
Just because I've seen some discussion about it below:
Girona could play in the Champions League next season because City Group only owns 47% of the club, the rule banning clubs from the same ownership group appearing in the same European competition applies to controlling stakes, and city group doesn't have a full controlling stake in Girona. I could be wrong, I am but a man, but that's the way it seems to be interpreted in this case.
But mate, I think we can all agree it would be rather hilarious to see City turfed outta the champions league next year cause of Girona
I'd argue that the inevitable fate of the Champion's League is to face off multiple teams, all co-owned by City (or whichever corpo will dominate at that point)
in the finals.
I expect City to pop out a few extra teams like this in the other leagues soon.
PSG & Bayern could face some serious hurt.
Though at that point...
What's the point anymore?
@@davidanitoiu7476 i dont think you are looking at it in the right way. I´m not a City fan by any means, but im not so negative about their ownership of teams across the leagues in this kind of fashion. It is important to take into consideration, that they are not creating a club out of thin air or taking a team and completely taking away their history (like RB did with teams like Salzburg, or also City Group did this before they found out that it has its issues), only giving some resources to the original club to give them opportunity to grow. Its not really a spending frenzy with them having a chance to take over the leagues, if they can push Palermo or Troyes into being a healthy Serie A/Ligue 1 contender to replace some bankrupt teams, they can be my guest.
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Once you changed the coaches, all the players, and give them access to City's scouting network and negotiators... it's not really the same club anymore, is it?
It won't happen over night, but given a few iterations, this team is nothing more than "Man City B - Italy" "Man City B - France A" "Man City B - France B" etc etc
That club history is little more than some dates & names on a paper.
This is going down deep, dark philosophical places like "Ghost in the Shell"
It also means that after a few iterations of this madness.... the best games can't happen anymore, because you got all the best players tied up under the same umbrella.
Some beancounters & lawyers in penguin suits will decide which team should win, based on which one generates the best returns upon winning.
And ofc the game is fixed, but then it's also not fixed... like... it's complicated, and it's all about lawyers lawyering over whether that's within the rules or not, and then a few fines are paid, which are offset against the profits as: "cost of doing business"
I find this both disgusting and inevitable.
Yes. I do think what is lacking in this video is good research on the CFG portfolio. You bring up Troyes and their poor results. The only City player they've ever been given to actually play for them is Issa Kabore. They are pretty much a front for City. This being very obvious with Savio. Savio is a CFG player placed at Troyes in order to launder the player. Hands are clean, on paper, before they 'move' his contract to City.
You bring up Palermo. This club has been a mess for years. With CFG they are seeing huge improvements in running the club. The results are on the up. But they are not in the top tier. Sending players to the second tier in Italy is not as good as sending them to Girona in the top league.
Hence I think you've set some premises for your argument about CFG that are not completely valid. These clubs are not the same thing, that A=B is not true for all of them given situation and context. So your false premise of saying A should equal B for all of these CFG clubs (therefore look at how great Girona is) is not valid.
3:22 "A team called Zaragoza"? Come on Zealand! Zaragoza are 6 time Spanish Cup winners and a 1 time UEFA Cup winners! They're not a random team that happened to be around at the time.
And my Forest won two Champion's Leagues. Cups don't equate relevance.
@@johnathenjencks4356I mean, they were more relevant than Girona at the time because of their history… not to mention they’d been a yo-yo club in the Spanish leagues for a while too.
Not only that but Zaragoza is the 5th biggest city in Spain right after Sevilla.
@@johnathenjencks4356 no football fan would ever say "some club called Nottingham Forest" though
@@SanFranFan30People would actually do that since most people aren't british and nobody since the 70s gives a dann about Nottingham. In fact, many people in the 21. century only know them because Lingaard played half a decent season with them
People do that on a regular when your club isnt relevant. Which goes for both Forrest and Zaragoza.
They're doing amazing, but have to say, all that influence and such, can do wonders to change a club's direction. While I get it doesn't always work, but sometimes it does.
Never has it to this degree though, they shouldn't be challenging for the title. Maybe Conference League at most, but Top Half of the lague more reastically.
@@StillAwesome21Leicester shouldn't have been challenging for a title but they won it, how is this any different
Because they're owned by the CFG, this isn't an underdog story.@@williamward874
Something you didn't mention, a huge part of their success is thanks to Michel, their manager is doing insanely good
Its not luton town, because they are part of the city group. Dont compare hard work and talent to blood money from arabian scum
As a fan of Tenerife that play-off final loss hurts a little less now knowing that two years later the team that beat them could win the top flight
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the club's chairman is Pere Guardiola, Pep Guardiola's younger brother, who is also a football agent. He joined the board as 2nd largest shareholder after the City Group back in 2017, although he's no longer such a prominent shareholder.
Its not luton town, because they are part of the city group. Dont compare hard work and talent to blood money from arabian scum
I know it’s easy to make a Man City B side joke, made it myself, but fair play to Michel. Interesting tactics that are achieving results.
It seems like a fairy tale until you realise who the owners are
I think it's still fairy tale cos this is rare moment in football
@@Crozack23no its fucking not
@@Crozack23Club funded by a state fighting for the league, what an underdog!
Yeah, the way they get dodgy, favourable deals that they wouldn't get otherwise in order to circumvent the FFP restrictions.
Pretty disappointed at how Zealand brushes over it as "talked Barcelona into" for example, when it's pretty well documented that part of the deal for City to sell Cancelo to Barca was for them to allow Garcia to Girona for a very heavy discount.
Sure the players have put in amazing work to get where they are, just like City have done for a while now, but just like their 115 FFP charges show, it wasn't entirely fair and they're following in the same suit with Girona.
And if you're wondering why did City Football Group start to help Girona so much despite all the other clubs part of the group, it's because Pep Guardiola's brother invested into Girona and became chairman.
Great achievement by the players already, but the club isn't exactly playing by the same rules as everyone else and it definitely sullies what they are doing.
they are majority owners* but they dont own the whole club.
love the vids! u make content in a way i can sit and watch for hours and learn football knowledge!
Loving the structure of these vids Zealand!
Good video, as always!
A video on Clapton cfc would be good in your story series 😮
Thank you for this 😅
I am likeing this chanel, great delivery. Keep up the good work.
Girona's heart breaking recent past and epic rise reminds me of the lyrics "The harder the hammer, the stronger the soul".
Good research and good video 😊
one of your best vids mate
Damn really early, or I just need to sleep
Thank you for respecting the primera division. This league is by far the most underrated.
I love the new channel name
I want a Troyes based sequel, how since they have been aquired by the City group, they have gone from Ligue 1 to now being in relegation from Ligue 2 and having their highest Transfer be a Girona loanee that's going to Man City
You forgot to mention they acquired Troyes in Ligue 2 and now they're 16th.
Troyes is a newer acquisition, putting systems in place takes time. Troyes will be back in the top division soon and more than likely competing for European football.
Now please do video about Wisla Krakow from Poland.
They were top club, minutes from champions league and after that was their downfall.
Gangsters sold this club to a scammer named Vanna Ly, and after that Kuba Blaszczykowski and two other people begin rebuild. Now as owner of that club is Harry Potter of Artifical Intelligence: Jaroslaw Krolewski.
Really hartbreaking story.
So sad to see people can't simply enjoy a team pulling of something fantastic
People be hating without even watching the video. Lol. City group is discussed in video.
Kudos to Michel- incredible manager
7:14 - fun fact: that man is Elche's head coach, Jose Rojo Martin "Pacheta", who was a coach of my home town Polish club couple of years before :)
I actually did this coaching course in Spain and we got a tour of the girona training grounds and stadiums and they taught us about there ethos and youth systems, it’s pretty insane how much work they put into youth recruitment especially considering all the best players are likely to be poached by Barca they seemed to know how to identify a future first team player by the time they could barely tie there shoes and knew exactly what to do to get them there
Thanks, I've just started a new save
Craziest part is that they kept their coach during most those promotion attempts until now that barcelona comes kmocking at the door
QUestion from me: Why they trying so hard if they won't be able to play in Europe? By UEFAs regulation 2 teams from 1 owner cannot play against eachother or even have a chance of it, so no CL and EL or ECL, as there is chance team higher will fall lower.
12:22 no, cfg made cancelo demands.
someone's fm saves is coming to the real world
Damn lmao already here mate
Great to see Girona achieve. Real Madrid will still win La Liga but it’s nice to see a club other than the traditional challengers pushing them.
BIG UPS THE CFG MASSIVE 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
CFG til I die!
IF ... with a major I .... they should win the league it would definitely beat Leicester when it comes to surprises.
How? Leicester was their second season in the prem, after nearly being relegated, in the world's most competitive top flight with modest wealth for the prem, this club has literally been gifted insane talent from their owners other teams to help cement themselves in the top 10 but are exceeding expectations and sitting in a UCL place.
@randomshotz13 Their wage budget considering inflation is less than Leicesters, they've spent less money than Leicester. You are aware that Leicesters owners are multi-billionaires are you not?
no such thing as “football gods”.. love your content but there’s only 1 God
and his name is Robbie Fowler....
Daily Blind was always elite. Just misjudged at United.
Can you do a similar video about VFB Stuttgart?
City Group's multi-club network model is a lot less of a cheat code than I think haters think it is. Yes, Man City has unlimited budget and resources, but that only applies to Man City. The rest of the clubs have way more limited resources even relative to the leagues they play in. Yes, you do get the occasional shady in-network transfers of questionable value but it's not worse or more frequent than non-network clubs do anyway. It's not a Juventus situation. The City Group scouting network is a great resource but it's still up to the clubs to use that resource correctly. I can tell you that NYCFC has not been as successful as Girona when it comes to scouting young talent. The teams still need to put in the work of finding talent, developing talent, and playing winning football just like the any other club. There's way more game-breaking corruption and finances in Football than multi-club ownership, at least as City Group has implemented it.
Exactly, this is what I have been trying to explain. Just cause one of the teams in the city group has unlimited funds doesn't mean that every club in the city group has the resources to be able to exploit this. If not Melbourne would be the best team in Australia and New York City FC would be the best team in the MLS.
You're delusional to think this is a small reason Girona are doing well. They're owned by the CFG, cheaters. You can bury your head in the sand and call this an underdog story but it is not. They're not operating at the level people think they are, they have access to resources many times above clubs at their supposed level.
@@Klyptic Unfair resources such as.....(Citation needed)
Girona is also doing a incredible job with his style and tactics
Could you talk about Brest's miraculous run this year in Ligue 1 ?
nice
I would have paid more attention if City didn’t own it.
Zealand saw that the views were low so he changed the thumbnail.
Unfortunately, this is no longer the case. 6 behind Midrid after back to back defeats. Hopefully Leverkusen don't slip up in Germany and hopefully Girona steady the ship for champions league football next season. Football needs good underdog stories, otherwise you may as well weatch Scottish football.
People comparing Girona's success to Man City are just stupid, I can guarantee they ve never heard of more than 4 girona players. There isnt any player that was worth more than just a couple millions coming into this year
Well said, they don't know what they're talking about. They just see that they are of the CFG and think corruption and billions spent, when Girona hasn't done any of that.
It's not stupid. They are privy to their scout network so they get players that aren't on that level yet and then receive the payment when City wants to pick them up.
@@Dante-mr3rz It obviously does help a lot but its still incredible
@@Dante-mr3rz Loads of clubs have good scouting networks, there are loads of multi-club models as well that are not doing great, even other City group clubs are not doing that great. Simple thing to look at is wage budget, they have the 13th highest wage budget and are competing at the top of the league, that is simply amazing, City is pretty irrelevant compared to those facts.
Tsygankov was worth more than 20 millions before this season. Dobvyk 15, Aleix Garcia 10, Miguel Gutierrez 10, Eric García, 15, Yangel Herrera was worth 20 at Espanyol before going to Girona. Yes, after this season the team value will go up by a lot but don't make up random stupid numbers. You are the one that doesn't know a thing about LaLiga. The less valuable squad in the spanish first division is worth more than what you are suggesting.
12:48 Dnipro, not Dinapro :D
A little bit more about Ukrainian players: you didn't mention one of the best Girona's midfielders Victor Tsygankov, they bought him from Dynamo Kyiv half-season before Artem Dovbyk
Now Girona is one of the most popular football clubs in Ukraine, we even use a meme for it "cheering for Girona since childhood" :D
Forgot to mention that both Girona and city cannot play in the champions League due to ownership rules
Yes they can, it helps to look beyond media headlines. City own 44% and both clubs have different management's structures. RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig were allowed in the CL for exactly the same reasons.
They got smashed by Madrid 😂😂😂
Their only two losses are to Madrid, they've beat Atleti & Barca. Nothing to scoff at.
who doesnt know girona
Girona moment
Nice video Z. But I think that one of the biggest reasons apart from the City scouting it´s that you are telling a player like Dobvyk or Tsygankov: hey if you perform well you´ll be on Man City. Thats the game changer otherwise they wouldn´t have convinced players like that to join a 10º side in la liga. Also shotout to Michel he´s a superb manager
GOOOL DEL LUGO!! That goal by Pablo Caballero is the goal of a team that I don't support that I have celebrated the most in my life. I am a Real Sporting de Gijón fan and that Girona defeat gave us promotion.
you might have released this video too late
I feel like girona were pretty well known for a couple years
They really weren't outside of Spain, they came up finished 10th and then went down. Nobody cared when they came back up and no one paid attention last season, it's only now, we don't have to kid ourselves here.
Unfotunately not a lot of people are interested in LaLiga outside of Barca and the two Madrids. I say that as a Barca supporter.
A team called Zaragoza? You have to now more about european fotball man
I think you mean Spanish RB Leipzig
You forgot to mention the tactical genius of Michel their manager
Míchel, not Marcelino 🤡
Thanks for the correction
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Is it pronounced Tenerifé?
No
Yea, just Tenerife but in Spanish you pronounce ever letter the same every time, so it's ten-eh-reee-feh
Spanish Man City circa 2010s...😐
they beat atleti 4-3, not 4-2
Are they really an underdog if they're backed up by an oil state?
Real did beat them tho
He said that
You learn something new everyday, I didn't know that Americans pronounce Tenerife as Teh-ner-ee-fay, rather than what I've always heard teh-nur-reef.
Yeah you learn something new everyday, you also didn't know Spanish pronounce Tenerife as Teh-ner-ee-fay.
City football group
1:15 no, it's not "regardless" it's precisely because of the net worth of the owner of the club. L.E. wikied their season finishes to see if i have to eat my words but no, before joining city group they never promoted to the 1st league and in 5 years since becoming a city group member they are fighting with barcelona for 2nd place or i guess with real for first.
also looked on transfermarkt at their transfers this season - over 100M euro this season on transfers. In 2016 before being acquired their top transfer deal was 2.5 mln, this year 30 mln. So again no, it's not "regardless". But disclaimer that i don't think this detracts anything from the players and the manager's contributions and success. Just that, you know, another somewhat superficially grown club thanks to oil money.
@@lkl3210Jude Bellingham alone is 100 million. That’s crazy
Like Leicester? Come on Z, thats a complete different thing. Girona is part of the City Group, no one should be surprised if one of those teams win things. Remembers me of the Heidenheim Video.
You're missing the part where la liga actively restricts club's from competing on an even playing field with the big boys, nevermind trying to outspend them. The regular top 3 spend more on wages of a single player than a newly promoted team can spend on their entire squad, so their wealthy owners aren't actually a big factor at all.
I don't like to repeat myself, but it's not always about the wages and buying players that are not in the same area. I said all that months ago about heidenheim because it's the same. The money there, floating around for the stadium, infrastructure, bla bla bla. Their facilities doesn't look like same level as celta or getafe.
It's just funny how everybody says that clubs like heidenheim or girona are the real david's in football when thats nowhere near true. "Nice" to see those breakouts, but take a look behind the curtain.
@@joeknapper3013and to say their big daddys are not a big factor is crazy wrong. Savio is a good example, look at his career path, that guy is too good for troyes (actually never played for them) and girona. He's just parked there, when he explodes he will go to the club that bought him months ago, man city. The daddy clubs always got a huuuuuge impact on those teams.
@@mattikr0718 ok let's take your example, Savio. Had you heard of him before? Has his name been floating around before? Troyes signed him for €6.5m so the answer is a hard no, when Brazilian wonderkids now fetch 40m or higher (see endrick, rogrygo, vinicius for example). If he was being scouted by Europe's elite, like man city, there would have been a bit more attention around this guy. What about all the other big name players who play for teams within this ownership? Why aren't man citys fringe players on loan at Troyes or girona? Even if the end goal was to groom him for man city why didn't they just send him straight there, where they have the best training facilities, and then loan him out from there? They still have to pay fair market value for him which will be 6x what Troyes paid, it's I'm the ffp rules. So its not like they can transfer him for free, so I don't really see what your problem is? Girona are doing well on a shoestring budget, it's refreshing... Like Leicester did... Except they also had billionaire owners... And even with those, they had to be savvy with their transfers and win the league with a back four including Danny Simpson, Wes Morgan and Rob Huth. Gironas is a bunch of loans and freebies so not exactly cream of the crop either lol.
@@mattikr0718actually, girona has not recieved any money from the city football group, all they got is ceded players, scouting database and an annual friendly match, but no money
LOL, biggest under dog? they are owned by Man city owners, they have lent them players, sent players to them to get 1st team football. What next, Red Bull Salzberg a small club over achieving?
Girona budget of €4.9m. Real Madrid €800m revenue and fuck knows how many champions league. 'giROnA aReN't aN uNdErDoG'.
Tenerifay
I love Zealand and his videos but that’s such a typically American thing to say ahaha
@@geraltoffuckingrivia1157 It's with great pleasure that I inform you the correct Spanish pronunciation of the town is the pronunciation I used
@@ZealandonYT with the greatest respect z your wrong brother
@@geraltoffuckingrivia1157 ruclips.net/video/Cy6ZwNscMHs/видео.html
@@geraltoffuckingrivia1157With the greatest respect g, you can't speak Spanish brother.
yes the girona story is great as is the leverkusen in germany but if u just scratch the surface abit the advantages city group and bayer as companies give to these teams cant be underestimated,the leicester city story contains no such hidden gems and that story wont ever be beaten i dont think even after all these years its still almost unthinkable that they won the premier league,the more u look into it the bigger underdogs they become in your mind,for such an average group of players and a journeyman manager to just somehow click for 38 games and win the best and toughest league on earth beggars belief,and when u add in stuff like the jamie vardy non league story stuff and the helicopter crash death of the chairman near the ground plus like 10 other things there is more than enough for a movie,unfortunately 99 percent of sport movies are shite
Leicesters owners were/are multi-billionaires. They invested in significant training facilities. Girona's budget is significantly less than theirs. Leicester was a great story but let's not pretend their owners were paupers.
Yeah we put manners on these title frauds. ¡No se metan con Real!
Tenerife is pronounced (at least by ALL the british so hopefully we're not wrong) 'ten-er-reef'
My Spanish pharmacist says Tenner-iff
Spaniard here, that is the Spanish pronunciation of Tenerife, Zealand nailed it
Unsurprisingly we are wrong haha.
leicester who actually won.... Girona wont win, they will come top 4 but not first.
Dread it, run from it,
Oil money ruins your league just the same
Girona is playing FM in real life
So literally Girona is just Man City. A Championship/2nd division level club that got promotion up to the top division in the late 2000s/early 2010s and then had billions pumped into it to keep it there.
No not really. Machester is a European/international city, Girona is a Regional city to start with. The Girona team on paper is arguably one of the poorest in the division. Man Citys has always been good since the take over.
i went to girona and my friends would never have heard of them if it wasnt for this year
@@t.c.4321 You almost got it right. Manchester is an international city due to the industrial revolution and is a globally recognized area in football due to United. City are ONLY good because of the takeover
@@t.c.4321Abu Dhabi are essentially using Girona as a feeder club
@@t.c.4321 Manchester as an area is only on the football map because of United. The only reason why people have even heard of City is because of the billions pumped into it
Anyone who believes this is a miracle/underdog story is as deluded as the government that runs the club 👍
"Somehow" Girona reached tenth place. It's almost like "somehow Palpatine returned"😆
Girona is a purple patch, Bayer 04 is the real deal
Bit different though isn't it. Leverkusen have one of the highest budgets in Germany, they've been in and out of the Champions league for the past 30 years. They've literally been to a champions league final. Gironas budget is literally 100k more than sabadell who were promoted last season.
Where is Football manager in this video..?
When I was a kid, it was said that City was an acronym for Conference In Two Years. The Conference is what The National League used to be called. Before rich owners, City were nobodies too, just lucky FFP wasn't a thing yet
City were not nobodies before the takeover. Their history goes back to before the 1900's. At the time of their takeovers City had more major trophies than Chelsea. City weren't lucky that FFP didn't exist considering that the 150 years prior to their takeover no such rule existed. The rule was literally brought in to stop them overtaking the 'big clubs'.
Thats what United fans said, Villa fans also to Birmingham. It's an old footie joke. Man City were certainly not nobodies. Also, remember, their cross city rivals have spent considerably more than them for what amounts to the worlds luckiest pub team.
While its hilarious that Real and Barca have a state backed club to contend with, while trying to rob football with the ESL, its terrifying how much power City Group are getting on football.
The way you’ve presented Girona as some underdog side is actually crazy, blatantly just ignoring the City group influence that’s allowed this rise to happen
He literally talks about it, also bar savio on loan and herrera they have got pretty much no help from the city group?
Do you even watch the whole video?
What? He literally talks about city group owning them... Did you watch the first minute and decide to be outraged?
Dumb😂
@@TrophyGuide101 I never said he didn’t mention them, he did play down the influence of them immensely though
As I understand, by UEFA rules Girona cant compete in the same competition as Man City so if they qualify for CL they cant play in it?!
If they win the league and city don’t they can
City doesn't own the whole club just a percentage
@@charismaticadventurer8448 City can finish 2nd and still qualify for the CL. That doesn't matter here, it's the ownership.
@@mostwantedthief as I understand even 1% matters but RB Salzburg and Leipzig were allowed to play. so its very shaddy
Leipzig and Salzburg?
Eric Garcia was had just re-joined Barcelona having been at City. And then mysteriously gets a loan to Girona?! Yeah something dodgy and under the table happened there
He's a bad player anyway, and ask Barca why they did that, not City. Both teams in Catalonia, wow so shady let's loan him to them, oh no shocking. 😱
@@StillAwesome21 You really are just legitimately hunting down and arguing with me ain't yah?! What's wrong? Did I upset the City fan boy? Do you secretly miss supporting Chelsea? 😅 Joking aside brother, its Friday, find something better to do rather than getting triggered on RUclips
Nah, he wasn't playing enough as Xavi dodn't trust him and Inigo was brought in to play ahead of him.
Nothing dodgy, Barca fans literally thought he was wank.
Making it easy with terrorist money,,
How much did they spend? 😂
there's a problem for next Champions League because 2 teams from the same owner can not play the same competition.....
Salzburg and Leipzig?
@@AxeldiedtimeagoRed Bull don’t have full broadcasting rights to one of them
@@Axeldiedtimeago Similar, but not the same. Austria doesn't have 50+1.
As long as they can prove 2 clubs have different management, it's fine. RB Salzburg and RB Leipzig were the same group in 2018-19 Europa
Tener-REEF
not Tener-FEEFAYE
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Hi
I'm sorry Mr Zealand, but that is incorrect 🤣
Source; I lived if Tener-reef for 3 years
@@LewisPearsie Lewis I don't know what to tell you but the British pronunciation of the city is wrong and anyone who speaks Spanish that uses it is like when British people say soccer to me to make me feel accommodated
@@LewisPearsie It's like the Spanish say their country's name is Spain rather than España. They're just trying to make it easier for you when they speak English to you.
Leicester City level surprise? Nowhere near it haha
Who predicted Girona challenging?
@@StillAwesome21 not saying it’s not impressive but it’s nothing close to what Leicester achieved, I think people forget the players Leicester won the league with haha. Also you can’t ignore the City group influence and power that’s helped Girona immensely.
lol, clearly this was made before the real madrid match, where they got *smashed!* they are a tidy lil team, and play some great soccer, but there's zero chance they win la liga now, real madrid is levels better, and only getting stronger.
Always somehow making it about you
@@wolfhaize lol, wtf are you even talking about? where am i discussing myself in my comment, fool?
@@wolfhaize lol, exactly how tf is my comment "making it about me"? i am discussing the state of the la liga title race. 🤣
You clearly didn't watch the video. He literally mentions it's after the Real Madrid game.
The unexpected rise of girona in laliga is like 2016 leichester city's rise in premier league
Man City B winning La Liga? No thanks