What if Lebron Never Left Cleveland? - BaldurNBA

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  • Would Lebron James have won titles if he had stayed with the Cleveland Cavaliers, in 2010?
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Комментарии • 117

  • @pennywisdom2099
    @pennywisdom2099 8 лет назад +2

    For a 17 minute what if, this video hits so many relevant points it's crazy. Lebron probably did this exact thing (without the benefit of knowing future draft picks of course) and realized Cleveland just couldn't make that team any better for him. He really couldn't have asked for much better than the 4 years of the Heat's Big 3 where they were essentially always favorites to go right to the Finals.

  • @Daniel-nr8ph
    @Daniel-nr8ph 8 лет назад +35

    Can you do a "What if Shaq never left Orlando Magic" please?

  • @MistahJay7
    @MistahJay7 8 лет назад +9

    Thats so fucked up how the cavs were paying shaq 20 fucken million dollars to do nothing. instead of signing an allstar to play along side lebron they sign shaq way past his prime....good job cavs and you wonder why lebron left

    • @BaldurNBA
      @BaldurNBA  8 лет назад

      +Uncle Drew23 They didn't sign Shaq, they traded for him in the summer before for a washed up Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic, not that bad of a trade. Shaq was on the last year of his 5 year contract that he signed when he was with the Heat. Thing is, they couldn't sign an all star because they didn't have the cap space nor any good trade assets

    • @giorgiopecoraro2275
      @giorgiopecoraro2275 8 лет назад +1

      +BaldurNBA I really liked your analysis , I just disagree with you on the heat. Consider that Wade was arguably the best player of the NBA in 2010 when he led the league in scoring. He was just hitting his peak I think... And who knows what would've happened with a major role in the Heat with Bosh? I also think Miami would've had more flexibility for future free agents like stat or maybe even try to go after cp3 or Melo...

  • @6sneezy9
    @6sneezy9 8 лет назад +6

    Goddamn so many youtubers doig what ifs lol, i aint mad

  • @Z4quarius
    @Z4quarius 8 лет назад

    The NBA need more people like you in their organization (unless you are already working there), good job man

  • @ertuzun21
    @ertuzun21 8 лет назад +1

    Draymond and Butler possibly wouldnt be the players that they are today in cavs.People thinks being system player as a bad thing but i think coaching and play system does affect player's overall skill a lot.

  • @BakedGoods
    @BakedGoods 8 лет назад +4

    This is an excellent video. Outstanding analysis!

  • @TheFrede2300
    @TheFrede2300 8 лет назад +2

    He did the right thing by going to Miami. Would he have won a ring in Cleveland, only if everything went perfect like you said and they got Green, Butler and Paul

  • @ConceitedImagery
    @ConceitedImagery 8 лет назад

    this "what if " video was GREAT ! you should make this a series !

  • @alvinfung5684
    @alvinfung5684 4 года назад

    Even though all these are hypothetical, the attention to detail is phenomenal. Good job!!!!!!!

  • @TheViramo
    @TheViramo 8 лет назад +16

    do what if draymond green was not a donkey

  • @Hidden-Secrets
    @Hidden-Secrets 8 лет назад

    Best "what if" nba Video on RUclips Ive seen.

  • @Danny-dh4lb
    @Danny-dh4lb 8 лет назад +1

    Rusty instrumental in the back nice

  • @damoncrossan3827
    @damoncrossan3827 8 лет назад

    you should do more of these in my opinion. very enjoyable a big thumbs up from me

  • @thewhitemage8763
    @thewhitemage8763 8 лет назад

    This was like super accurate, and I love it, great video

  • @ShadDreyar
    @ShadDreyar 8 лет назад +5

    If I may suggest something.
    Why not making a "what if the Golden State Warriors kept Monta Ellis over Stephen Curry" video ?
    That makes me kinda curious, as we all know, Ellis was a fan favourite in Golden State, and Curry was not the player he is today, so having some sort of alternate view would be interesting.
    Or, more like a funny one : "What if Demarcus Cousins didn't have temper issues ?"

    • @lacgsports8819
      @lacgsports8819 8 лет назад +1

      GS actually traded Monta to make room for Klay.

    • @nicomauri8222
      @nicomauri8222 8 лет назад

      +LACG Sports no they were to small in the back court and needed to get rid of either steph or ellis...
      thank god they kept steph

    • @mrmvp2323
      @mrmvp2323 8 лет назад

      +LACG Sports exactly they drafted klay and draymond

  • @ctsg15
    @ctsg15 8 лет назад

    Some of your videos seem a bit biased towards the west, but I really can't poke many holes in this video. I like how you did the what if it all went the Cavs way bit. Great video man!

  • @yaesar
    @yaesar 8 лет назад +1

    What if Kobe stayed with the Hornets?

  • @foreverkingmvp
    @foreverkingmvp 8 лет назад

    Woah he got Triumph intro??, I memorized tht whole first verse when I was 13

  • @TheGreatWesternTrendkill
    @TheGreatWesternTrendkill 8 лет назад +3

    Good vid but DWade was the man until post 2011 (2011 he was still NO. 1 IMO. Especially in the Playoffs). He just sacrificed a lot afterwards. He would still be way more dominant without LeBron there. Man he is the best SG in the EAST RIGHT NOW. And Pat Riley is always one of the most dominant GMs. "Heat like the Hawks".. Come on man. Put some #respeck.

    • @Dopex90
      @Dopex90 8 лет назад

      +The Great Western Trendkill true dat. I actually think they still would've won '12 and potentially '11 without a choking Lebron and high Wade usage rate. Depends on trade/free agency Pat Riley magic though.

  • @happysauke
    @happysauke 8 лет назад

    agreed in so many levels.
    great job on the analysis

  • @benbauer7866
    @benbauer7866 8 лет назад

    What if Kobe never tore his achilles? He was a superstar up until that injury, and was never the same player again. Does Pau stick around with a better version of Kobe? Or would the Lakers have been able to get more free agents if Kobe was better?

  • @Flatbedcruz
    @Flatbedcruz 8 лет назад +3

    Lebron would be like melo with the nicks if he dint leave

    • @ste9240
      @ste9240 8 лет назад +1

      +cruz lopez He would be ringless but not a loser like Melo...the most overrated player of the last 10 years hands down

    • @footballhamster
      @footballhamster 8 лет назад

      Not really. LeBron can actually lead his team to the play-offs and may have been able to win a championship if he had the greatest play off performance of all time

    • @johnlemon2916
      @johnlemon2916 8 месяцев назад

      More like another Dirk I believe

  • @Lurrkiing
    @Lurrkiing 8 лет назад

    You're wrong about Z. The wizards ended up dropping him and the cavs resigned him the same year. I remember lol.

    • @BaldurNBA
      @BaldurNBA  7 лет назад

      You're right!
      I got that wrong

  • @AtodaZ23
    @AtodaZ23 8 лет назад

    When you asked "Should LeBron regret leaving Cleveland in 2010?" I already said helllll no in my mind lol.

  • @dolpoobniala8765
    @dolpoobniala8765 8 лет назад

    just wanna comment on what you said at around 5:00. Contrary to what you said, the Cavs could have signed a big time free agent, maybe even two. They just had to sign that free agent first, before using LeBron's bird rights to sign him to max deal. The only question would be the willingness of the franchise to pay luxury taxes as a result of those transaction.

    • @dolpoobniala8765
      @dolpoobniala8765 8 лет назад

      you mentioned two exceptions: minimum and mid-level. You left out bird rights. They used to call this veteran exception, which allows teams over the cap to re-sign their veterans provided they have played three years prior entering free agency. In your scenario, this means the Cavs will have 13-14 M to work with before they sign LeBron (a seven-year veteran, so he has bird rights)

  • @adamvarro7404
    @adamvarro7404 8 лет назад

    very good video, well thought out, great job:D

  • @yanistadjer8389
    @yanistadjer8389 8 лет назад

    great job real effort and thinking

  • @erinshathish6594
    @erinshathish6594 8 лет назад

    U forgot bout this, LeBron doesn't go to Miami so the heat have cap space to buy another a superstar and bosh might not come without LeBron, so they would have loads of cap space. This video could be better as u could pay more attention to other teams and their rosters but this is still a great vid

  • @nicofederico8528
    @nicofederico8528 8 лет назад

    Great video, you should do "what if shaq and kobe stayed together?"

  • @BADsChannel
    @BADsChannel 8 лет назад

    These what if videos are so funny

  • @emmyjohnny970
    @emmyjohnny970 7 лет назад

    He would have still won a title. The league would have demanded it, and hence would have enabled Cleveland to acquire some key free agents. Granted he would have just won 1 or 2.

  • @MrRodzilla
    @MrRodzilla 8 лет назад

    delly would still eventually come to cleveland and they win 3 rings in 2016-2020

  • @1vaultdweller
    @1vaultdweller 8 лет назад

    Do" What if Kobe never got traded for Divac"

  • @kuyrlable
    @kuyrlable 8 лет назад

    even if they got Butler in 2011 draft, would he become the player he is right now? Thibs was a big part of his progress

  • @ahceda09
    @ahceda09 7 лет назад

    And if lebron stayed, they probably could of still sign some top free agents and make trades. Talk with the free agents first and then give lebron the larry bird rights to sign him the max deal. You could of mentioned who would they signed that would help lebron get to the finals and win a ring. They wouldn't of resign shaq and trade mo williams

  • @Anonamoosemouse
    @Anonamoosemouse 8 лет назад

    I like these videos, but you missed alot of alternatives for roster building.

  • @ZechKinney
    @ZechKinney 8 лет назад

    You couldn't be anymore right.

  • @ejfreeman7
    @ejfreeman7 8 лет назад

    What if he had a good full team, they could have won like 68 games

  • @SDFU66
    @SDFU66 8 лет назад

    But why would Cleveland NEED another star when you have Lebron? I don't get how people are saying he is better than the All Stars before him yet half of those stars went through the same shit and managed to turn it into a Championship. It is interesting tho! Great video

    • @dthrust9037
      @dthrust9037 6 лет назад

      Mooks2K66 name some stars who dealt with a franchise as bad as Cleveland and still took care of superteams in the postseason

  • @andrewgibbs3213
    @andrewgibbs3213 8 лет назад +2

    0-6

  • @paramo4737
    @paramo4737 8 лет назад

    What if Drose never got injured

  • @chiefanon789
    @chiefanon789 8 лет назад

    Wade would have came to Chicago if LeBron didn't leave

  • @franklinclinton3476
    @franklinclinton3476 8 лет назад

    do a what if the Bulls was not robbed in game 5 vs the Knicks in 1994 would the Bulls beat Houston in the Finals

  • @Patypatpat99
    @Patypatpat99 8 лет назад +1

    do what would happen if lebron and Kobe got traded

    • @4-CQL
      @4-CQL 8 лет назад

      That's too outlandish of a scenario, the entire nba would be totally different

  • @user-hb7em6vl8p
    @user-hb7em6vl8p 8 лет назад

    so if lebron never left, KD would have multiple rings and Lebron would have 0

  • @BeeThaDon46
    @BeeThaDon46 7 лет назад +1

    AI and Charles Barkley all over again.. idc he had enough help to get them there. Don't wanna hear sorry excuses.

    • @dthrust9037
      @dthrust9037 6 лет назад +1

      Brandon Shields lebron hater. He didn’t have enough help to get to the finals lebron just carried the fuck out of that roster why do you think they didn’t even win 20 games the moment lebron left(in 2010 the season before they win the most games in the nba WITH LEBRON). Not even the bulls in 1995 lost that many games(only lost 2 more games from the previous year) and they lost MICHAEL JORDAN

  • @og_cookie7774
    @og_cookie7774 8 лет назад

    Thanks Mclemore

  • @finnw2540
    @finnw2540 8 лет назад

    U need to do a vid like what if the bulls drafted LEBRON

  • @quadrupledoublewithturnove9161
    @quadrupledoublewithturnove9161 8 лет назад

    shaq averaged 12 assist? damn, better passer than lebron.

  • @noahlisiecki2734
    @noahlisiecki2734 8 лет назад

    Do what if Kareem never left Milwaukee

  • @elmarzytzx9756
    @elmarzytzx9756 7 лет назад

    You forgot boston celtics

  • @matttheknicksfan
    @matttheknicksfan 8 лет назад

    i only watched the info so heres my answer...NOPE! they didnt want to help him or he woulda resolved his problems

  • @kingriggaming8252
    @kingriggaming8252 8 лет назад

    What If The Los Angeles Clippers Didn't Trade their Draft Picks.
    They traded their drafting for the 2011 one. They should have gotten the one and only KYRIE IRVING!!!
    And many moar. ithink

  • @paramo4737
    @paramo4737 8 лет назад

    The Bulls would've went to the finals if not a ring

  • @chiefbig2x199
    @chiefbig2x199 8 лет назад

    it was good for him to go Miami it was a hard but good choice

  • @drewb9517
    @drewb9517 8 лет назад

    What if kawhi Leonard stayed with the pacer

  • @AlexRodriguez-jt3wo
    @AlexRodriguez-jt3wo 8 лет назад

    I followed you on Twitter ! Haha

  • @ktmoney929
    @ktmoney929 8 лет назад +2

    whats with all these channels doing "What Ifs" vids now

    • @furkannn2000
      @furkannn2000 8 лет назад

      they get a lot of views and they're pretty intresting

    • @Flatbedcruz
      @Flatbedcruz 8 лет назад +2

      And he likes NBA and Shaq n the fool was getting copy right claims that could take his channel down

    • @jvc0014
      @jvc0014 8 лет назад

      Because people are stealing other people's ideas especially nick smith (no offense to nick, I love his vids)

  • @jaym5964
    @jaym5964 8 лет назад +2

    Yoo my man with that Triumph beat!!

  • @ucheokoroafor8273
    @ucheokoroafor8273 8 лет назад

    They wouldnt have Kyrie Irving or Kevin Love. They wouldnt have won a title

  • @lahmike
    @lahmike 8 лет назад

    I like beacause other bullshit what ifs like for example jimmy b they would just pick him just because that's bullshit

  • @wmnlvwill
    @wmnlvwill 8 лет назад

    Do a what if lebron stayed in miami

  • @Themistoklis16
    @Themistoklis16 8 лет назад

    No rings ....Lebron is the Wilt of a r era ......

  • @MrDatdude1992
    @MrDatdude1992 8 лет назад +2

    If the LeBron haters don't understand this video then they don't know anything about business. Business 1st, Basketball 2nd.

  • @camschnitzer447
    @camschnitzer447 8 лет назад

    aye he got the rusty beat

  • @Willx76333
    @Willx76333 8 лет назад +1

    no one wanted to got to cavs since Cleveland sucks
    so lebron left

  • @user-hb7em6vl8p
    @user-hb7em6vl8p 8 лет назад

    they'd probably be worse than they are now

    • @user-hb7em6vl8p
      @user-hb7em6vl8p 8 лет назад

      that was before watching the vid.
      he'd still have 0 rings if he never left lmao

  • @justinli4122
    @justinli4122 8 лет назад

    Simple, he still wouldn't have any rings

  • @franklinclinton3476
    @franklinclinton3476 8 лет назад

    he would never win a ring because he would had not gone to Miami to Followed Wade Lebron rode Wade coat tail to 2 NBA titles fact Wade is the reason why Lebron has 2 rings

    • @HarpoSpoke
      @HarpoSpoke 8 лет назад +1

      Yeah right. Wade can't even get a team to the Finals in the "easy" East without Lebron. And in case you missed it....Lebron was the MVP of those Finals.
      Wade is the one who rode other players to titles. Shaq for one (with the NBA refs helping) and Lebron for two more. Wade wins nothing without those guys....doesn't even get near the Finals in fact. Lebron at least can get the Finals without a player like Wade.

  • @user-Ljy1008
    @user-Ljy1008 8 лет назад

    Yeah!!!!!

  • @carterbailey9822
    @carterbailey9822 8 лет назад

    Why is everyone doing this video?

  • @matthewbrack2794
    @matthewbrack2794 8 лет назад

    hell yeah

  • @MistahJay7
    @MistahJay7 8 лет назад

    also lebron would have beaten okc probs still. lebron owns durant

  • @supermrt11
    @supermrt11 8 лет назад

    Then he would have no rings

    • @boyanime010
      @boyanime010 8 лет назад

      Did you see LeBron in Game 6 & 7? He would easily have rings

    • @justmakemeaname
      @justmakemeaname 8 лет назад

      +Hoyum Toy did you even watch the video...he wouldnt have kyrie and love if he stayed

    • @boyanime010
      @boyanime010 8 лет назад

      justmakemeaname, Yes I watch the video, while it's true he wouldn't have Kyrie and Love, the BIG 3 might have assembled in Cleveland LeBron would not have gotten near as much hate. He might not have gotten any hate at all, if it weren't for the decision. If Cleveland just did a better job at recruiting Wade and what his role would've been,the KING probably stay..

    • @boyanime010
      @boyanime010 8 лет назад

      justmakemeaname, The BIG 3 also could had assembled in CHICAGO instead of Miami, Wade wanted to go home, and Chicago had D.Rose coming off his Rookie of the year Season. Wade and Bosh were about to sign with Chicago,LeBron was the last piece until he change his mind and wanted to play in Miami. but the Bulls almost had LeBron, Wade, Bosh and Rose on the same team..LeBron just didn't have faith in Thibodeau.

  • @kelvinli7142
    @kelvinli7142 8 лет назад

    BRON CAN NEVER GET A RING IN CAVS

  • @carlosbautista668
    @carlosbautista668 8 лет назад

    lebron need good teammates to win

  • @rafik1gg
    @rafik1gg 8 лет назад

    Че он базарит?