Yamaha CP4 All Sounds - No Talking

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024

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  • @RT3319
    @RT3319 6 лет назад +1

    Just ordered my CP4 to compliment my U5 acoustical. Ooooo, can't wait for the CP4 to arrive. Thanks so much for making this video!

  • @vilekko3582
    @vilekko3582 5 лет назад +1

    Glad that you put this out. I've had my CP4 for 5 months now and I've been somberly unhappy with how it does sound onstage through an analogue Yamaha mixer and a pair of JBL active loudspeakers. Now that you have provided this, I have a chance to find out if my CP4 sounds the same.

  • @gadymarcus2362
    @gadymarcus2362 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bello.💥💥💥💥💥🌡️

  • @Musictron
    @Musictron 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the sound demo, it was a joy to listen to you play.... it really helped me make my decision to go with this board do to the piano choices. And nice CP4 review video as well!

  • @TheKeyboardGuy-f3c
    @TheKeyboardGuy-f3c 6 лет назад +3

    Great sound demo, thanks for taking the time to make this video, and sharing it.

  • @pauldominic2150
    @pauldominic2150 5 лет назад

    Ben-- you're really thinking!! Thanks for posting all these sounds to discern... It's really helping me decide I want the CP4. Along with how light it is. And you are an AMAZING player!

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  5 лет назад

      Paul Wightman, thank you for the compliments. If you can find a used CP4, it will make a good choice... but don’t overlook the new CP88 or 74. Reviews and full demos on those coming soon. That is the CP4 replacement.

    • @pauldominic2150
      @pauldominic2150 5 лет назад

      @@benallen5967 Sounds great, Ben! I checked out- and like the CP73 . :D Aluminum chassis, 13 pounds lighter than the CP88... no extra keys and weight to lug around ... thanks for telling me about them.

  • @RachelSolomusic
    @RachelSolomusic Год назад

    Very helpful thnx!

  • @flamwork06
    @flamwork06 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for doing this video. Can't wait for your other video that tells what you think about this board

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад

      vince wilson already posted that one!

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад +1

      vince wilson ruclips.net/video/yDWQoCzKwoU/видео.html

  • @albertogozzini
    @albertogozzini 7 лет назад +11

    Proud and happy to have a CP4. The best acoustic piano sounds avaiable on a electronic keyboard today. After hours spent testing several stage pianos I must say that Nord and Korg acoustic pianos, for example, are still far away from Yamaha pianos. Nord pianos are too cold. Korg and Roland pianos are too synthetic. Yamaha has "the" piano sounds. And consider the stunning EPs of CP4, a good effect section, a perfect acoustic-feel wooden keyboard, a wide sound palette with synths, organs, strings, choirs and the magic DX7 pianos... A complete stage piano, good for every ind of music, classical, rock, jazz, pop. I suggest it to every keyboardist.

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад +2

      Alberto Gozzini i mostly agree with you, but the new Korg Grandstage has a better variety of piano and electronic piano sounds, and they are much more “present” and up front sounding to me. I do much prefer the CP4 action though.

    • @albertogozzini
      @albertogozzini 7 лет назад +1

      I am a "Korg enthusiast", I love all Korg workstations, from M1 to Triton series to Kronos. But I never liked at 100% Korg acoustic piano sounds. Korg always worked well on lead synths, pads, strings and organs, but not enough on acoustic pianos, I think. Past year, when I bought my CP4, Korg had still not released the Grandstage. But I think I would have bought CP4 anyway. Few weeks ago I watched some Grandstage demos on RUclips. I used headphones to listed well to it. It didn't convinced me. I heard something I didn't like, expecially in the middle-low zone... I felt clearly some M1-like harmonics. To me this is something artificial I can't accept in 2017. Maybe it's a kind of Korg sound signature, a Korg piano sampling style or maybe it's just for my difficult tastes... But I just say that the first time I played the CP4 I remained without words for its realism and acoustic feel. Those were "my" piano sounds, coda, upright, EPs.

    • @instrumentalistjade8367
      @instrumentalistjade8367 7 лет назад +3

      Alberto Gozzini my friend, you said to it, you played the cp4 but you havent tried the grandstage you only listed using headphones. Thats a big difference. You might said those words becAuse u bought the cp4.. we all have different opinions. I agree with you yamaha has a superb piano sounds, im also planning to buy a cp4 because of the piano action. But we must not judge other boards, coz they have all differences. they have advantages from each other. im saying this as a motif xf owner, kronos owner, nord electro and roland rd-800 owner. Also i tried using and owning some all korg series specially triton and roland keyboards specially fantom series. i used to own buy and sell keyboards too. Sold more than 70 keyboards in two years.
      All keyboards has different taste. this will depends to the kind of music you play and also depends upon your taste. For me i like to use yamaha pianos at church. But on stage in a band, i prefer my roland rd-800. You know why? Sometimes depending on the songs. There are songs that matches to a certain sounds. Lets say my 1986 mks-20 until now i use the ep1 and ep2 alot. Sounds are not getting old. It depends upon the user.

    • @albertogozzini
      @albertogozzini 7 лет назад

      Dear Jade I agree, Korg Grandstage is surely an amazing keyboard that will have a big success. I totally agree when you say that sounds are often strictly connected to songs, kind of music, personal playing style... In some song you must use "that" sound, as used in the original recording. But most of the keyboardists can't have or can't go around with 10 or more different keyboards like Rick Wakeman :-D. So if I must make a choice for a stage piano, I listen and consider the piano sounds, not the organs, pads, strings... I value the comfort, the weight, the front panel controls, etc. Grandstage is a great instrument, but I confirm I would never buy it since Korg's new acoustic pianos stil don't convince me at 100%, they are not at the same high fidelity level of Yamaha's. I played recently the Korg Kronos new acoustic piano sounds, even the "german"... I am stil not convinced by some of the 88 samples, mainly in the 2nd and 3rd octave (left hand). I thimk it's a Korg suound design style, ok... But I don't like that synthetic taste. Some Kawai MP series acoustic pianos sound much better. Korg is a bit under the Yamaha level even in weighted keys mechanics. Grandstage has not wooden keys and this is an incredible things for me, I think this is not acceptable in such a instrument. Yamaha CP4 has a perfect wooden keyboard with a perfect hammer action. For organs, choirs, strings, lead synths Korg is much much better than Yamaha. I think that if you use 4 keyboard different brands (Korg, Yamaha, Moog, Hammond) you cover the 90% of the world sound palette. And this was my personal choice ;-)

    • @theawakenedone6228
      @theawakenedone6228 7 лет назад +2

      Roland actually does sound way better then CP4 in my opinion. Expecially the new rd 2000 model that I am going for. Much warmer sound and variation of the tone each time the same keyis pressed. Here it sounds like it repeat the same loop of recording when the key is pressed repeatedly without any expression. You hear it as well when he move from high end to low there is a break in sound and resosnance there thats just very unatural.

  • @instrumentalistjade8367
    @instrumentalistjade8367 6 лет назад +8

    My cp4 will arrive today.. 😀my nord stage 2 will be sold tomorrow, ill miss the knobs and other functionalities... But all i need ia a good action and a good piano sound. 👍🏼

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  6 лет назад +1

      Instrumentalists Jade you will enjoy the CP4, congratulations!

  • @shookstylez
    @shookstylez 7 лет назад

    thanks for taking the time to do this

  • @joeporterfield7576
    @joeporterfield7576 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this vid

  • @DJIncendration
    @DJIncendration 4 года назад

    edit: I currently have a PSR-SX900, which has better soundss in most categories, but the pianos on this keyboard (the CP-4) sound so good! They are just so much better than what I have on my SX900.
    original comment: This keyboard sounds so good! I wish I could get one of these, but it's so out of my price range at the moment. The drums, guitars, harpsichords and pianos are just so much better than what I have on my current keyboard.

  • @marky7972
    @marky7972 7 лет назад +3

    How would you rate the Kawai MP11 in comparison to the CP4 in terms of key action and piano sound?

  • @rodneylee4026
    @rodneylee4026 7 лет назад

    The 10:S6 does sound really good.

  • @rhodesjuzz9508
    @rhodesjuzz9508 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this good demo Ben. I bought the reface cp 1 week ago. Sounds come from this cp4 (rhodes 1 is the rhodes 73,from the cp4) but imho the reface sounds thicker (fat sound) and the cp4 ep's sound a bit thin....

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад

      Interesting! I haven't played with any of the reface series.. what Yamaha and Roland and Korg are doing with the super cheap tiny control battery powered mini key synths these days, is just not something I'm interested in. When I buy a piece of gear, the three biggest factors for me in this order are SOUND, FEEL, DURABILITY. If it doesn't hold up to that test, I don't buy it. An example would be the Nord A1. Built very very well, controls are solid.. sound is good, though not my favorite virtual analog synth... but it fails in the FEEL department because of the key action, I had it for about 2 weeks and sent it back because I just could not get on with that fatar action. The reface series look like fun little instruments, but just not for me!

    • @rhodesjuzz9508
      @rhodesjuzz9508 7 лет назад

      Ben Allen you're right, it's just for fun. The 3 octave mini keys don't make sense. I only use it when I sit in my lazy chair or at the kitchen table just to try something or writing music and then running it through a sony srsxb20 (also battery powered). The reface internal speakers sound horrible. I am a Rhodes fan and If I want to play a full size keyboard with the right feel and action I play my 1976 Fender Rhodes suitcase. Nothing beats the real thing :-)
      I've owned several stage pianos through the years from Korg, Yamaha and Nord (Roland often lacks authentic sounds imho) and they were all great but never lasted long...

  • @Sam_imman
    @Sam_imman 7 лет назад +4

    For a stage piano, Yamaha should add the functionality to layer 4 sounds on the go. Like Roland RD series.

    • @rodneylee4026
      @rodneylee4026 7 лет назад +8

      Layering four sounds together just creates a weak sounding mishmash. All harmonics are choked
      off. Layering two sounds is usually all that is needed musically, if you need to layer at all.

  • @MatijaVabec
    @MatijaVabec 7 лет назад

    thank you for this!

  • @stan5585
    @stan5585 7 лет назад

    Ben, thanks for the in depth review. I'm considering the CP40, but it seems like you have to go thru so many steps to set it up to switch between favorite settings in a live setting. Just wanted to get your opinion on that. With other companies, it seems really easy especially the ones with a dedicated Favorite setup like Korg.
    I trust Yamaha as far as basic sounds and durability, but it seems like they arent listening to users wanting a larger screen, ease of set up and hello....a 73/76 version of the CP:)

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад

      Rob N I think once you assign what you like to the different favorite locations, it isn't too hard to switch through them as needed. Keep in mind that the CP40 has a different set of pianos and a different key action than the CP4. The CP4 has the CFX, CFIII, and S6 samples. The CP40 only has the CFIII piano samples.

    • @stan5585
      @stan5585 7 лет назад

      Great, thanks for the info Ben

  • @karstenpe
    @karstenpe 7 лет назад +1

    Nice video! Do you know if the classic Motif Piano sound "Power Grand" is in the CP4?

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад +2

      I believe the main sample is the same in both instruments, specifically the CFIII Grand piano sample, but the way the sample responds on the Motif, is a bit different for sure. Even the 88 key Motif doesn't respond as well as the CP4 with the same sample. Hope that helps!

  • @jonathanwalls8849
    @jonathanwalls8849 7 лет назад +1

    Hey Ben can you do the montage sounds

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад +1

      Jonathan Walls I appreciate your suggestion! I've played a Montage extensively and have no plans to demo one. I recently spent several hours with a Montage 8 and Kronos 2 88, and I vastly preferred the Kronos, so I bought one. The montage was not impressive to me. I'll do a video soon about the big differences, and why I went with the Korg.

  • @nezkeys79
    @nezkeys79 5 лет назад

    Wow. Great video straight to the point ❤. What are you amplifying the sound with though? The reason i ask is because in 7 other videos ive watched they are full of reverb and sound stereo and its what made me fall in love with the sound. In this they sound like mono and no reverb and tinny. now im back at square one 😥. Despite that im convinced the cp range has the best sounds available and anxious that unless you buy a good sound system it will sound terrible.
    The best ive heard is p255/p515, cp4/cp88, and kawai mp11se.

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  5 лет назад +1

      You are hearing this direct to the interface, no reverb or effects added - simply straight from the keyboard itself.

    • @nezkeys79
      @nezkeys79 5 лет назад

      @@benallen5967 i just want the best sounding piano/rhodes/piano+strings. Everything else will come from a synth. Currently i use a triton and a yamaha p90 but their sounds have been grating on me for years now. After purchasing a kawai es110 i was very disappounted and it put me off kawais now. As for nord i dont think theyre bad but way overpriced imoand overated piano sounds. Roland ive never really been a fan of the sounds for whatever reason. Bear in mind ive never actualky played these only listened on youtube vudeos so im lrobably talking rubbish
      Im looking to upgrade to this...
      P515 or CP88 or CP4
      Kurzweill Artis or Korg Kronos
      Two yamaha HS8 studio monitors

  • @paulallenMacca
    @paulallenMacca 7 лет назад

    Nice video thanks for sharing, whats your opinion of the CP4.

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  7 лет назад +6

      Thanks! I'm going to upload a short video about that later today, specifically I will discuss the keyboard action and the sounds, compared to my previous RD-800, and new RD-2000. Stay tuned!

    • @strongchord4384
      @strongchord4384 7 лет назад

      John Lennon Fanatic I

  • @junalee1266
    @junalee1266 6 лет назад

    Thank you for the helpful video!👍What's the difference of st/st+/st- ? And what does "Mn" stand for ?

    • @dwarfjay
      @dwarfjay 6 лет назад

      I dont know for sure, but what I have heard is as follow
      st;stereo mn;mono Fl;Flat Tuning (voices without Fl are stretched) +-;hammer stiffness?

    • @junalee1266
      @junalee1266 6 лет назад +1

      Thank you for your kind comment ! 👍

  • @letzfetz1052
    @letzfetz1052 6 лет назад

    Hey is it possible to play mp3 files.? Im learning jazz and i want to play the backing tracks from the aebersold series. It always say illegal format. I converted it from mp3 wav too but still the same

  • @arnobertogna4718
    @arnobertogna4718 6 лет назад

    Which speaker(s) or amplifier do you use for this demo?

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  6 лет назад

      Arno Bertogna this is recorded direct into a Mac from a Focusrite Clarett 8 Pre, no speakers were involved.

  • @LucasLuchi
    @LucasLuchi 6 лет назад

    The same sound from Yamaha cp40?

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  6 лет назад

      Lucas Luchi Gonsalves the CP40 pianos are only the CFIIIs from the CP4- most of the other sounds are there. Check out the Yamaha voicelists for a comparison.

  • @VK-tb5vc
    @VK-tb5vc 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you so much for this video and for all your other informative series, Ben. Must take a lot of your valuable time. I have a Nord stage 2 and I am happy with. I am also interested in a piano with built-in speakers. I sort of like the Yamaha sound. Have you any opinion on the Yamaha cp255 piano or the cp300 series? Thx

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  6 лет назад

      Vasilis Karbouris, I highly recommend the Yamaha P515 or Roland FP-90.

  • @NotExplicable
    @NotExplicable 5 лет назад

    1:48:00 favourite

  • @eQui253
    @eQui253 5 лет назад

    I wanted to hear the Yamaha CP4 Engine Sound :(

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  5 лет назад

      eQui what do you mean?

    • @eQui253
      @eQui253 5 лет назад

      Yamaha-Motors builds a legendary motorcycle named R1.
      The engine of this Bike has the same name.. CP4(cross plane 4 cylinder).. i was looking for this and found your Video :D

    • @marvinkmooneyoz
      @marvinkmooneyoz 3 года назад

      @@eQui253 its funny enough that the same company makes musical instruments and motor vehicles, but its downright hilarious that the same company makes one of each with the exact same name

  • @billiegt
    @billiegt 4 года назад

    Amazing video! One question, does it have its own speakers??

  • @ravorn9788
    @ravorn9788 7 лет назад

    Sound Yamaha CP4 is similar to MotifXF?

  • @christo6765
    @christo6765 6 лет назад

    sounds like an electric piano!

  • @germanshepherdlover2613
    @germanshepherdlover2613 6 лет назад +1

    Some nice piano sounds and a shit load of terrible sounds, the organs are simply shocking.....I thought it was a joke! But I have heard that the action is really good, I'm a pianist mainly, I'm tied between CP4, Kawai MP7 or RD800

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  6 лет назад +1

      What would you say your main focus is, Blues? Is it feel, or sounds, or both? I've played all of those, so I can provide helpful observations for you, hopefully!

    • @germanshepherdlover2613
      @germanshepherdlover2613 6 лет назад

      Cheers Ben, I like both, action and sound, the best I've played is Kawai ES8 as far as the piano experience goes. The only keyboard I've ever played that as far as I'm concerned can do EVERY sound really well is Kurzweil (Cathedral orghan as good as Nord).....but I hate their actions, since they are catering for other sounds as well as piano they have to have that action rather than a dedicated piano action. I had a Roland FP50, the action for me was terrible, way too heavy, far heavier than a acoustic piano.

  • @divady9939
    @divady9939 5 лет назад

    prefere the grandstage ,piano are best

    • @benallen5967
      @benallen5967  4 года назад +2

      These have been greatly improved with the new CP series, but the Grandstage still sounds great as well.

    • @marvinkmooneyoz
      @marvinkmooneyoz 3 года назад

      @@benallen5967 WOuld you say any of the APs or EPs in the CP4 or other older yamahas stand up to the current YC/CP selections, or are the newer samples just across the board bettter? Im in a position where I could for sure spend the $1700 for a used CP73 im seeing, but would ideally have a weighted board with GOOD action, with an interface that lets me pull the top board a bit closer forward. Theres a few offerings from kawaii that might work, and a few from Yamahas recent past as well, including this one the CP4. But im a bit squeemish about the idea of older keyboards sounds, even when theres evidence like this vid that they are pretty good!

  • @SimoDCmusic
    @SimoDCmusic 7 лет назад +3

    the other sounds are simply embarassing.

    • @boboladouche5268
      @boboladouche5268 7 лет назад +1

      My observation as well. I’d like to have organs, clavs, and reasonably credible orchestral instruments. The clavs are so-so, the organs mostly suck, and the orchestral sounds totally suck. Synthesizers are trite/cliché. Yamaha does well with piano sounds IMO because of their decades-long legacy building real pianos. I’d rather see more pipe and jazz organs and few voices I will never ever ever use (calliope, accordion, penny whistle, etc.).

    • @instrumentalistjade8367
      @instrumentalistjade8367 6 лет назад

      SimoDCmusic so it’s not for you then 👍🏼

    • @PieInTheSky9
      @PieInTheSky9 6 лет назад +1

      Most people looking to get this are looking to get it for the piano sounds. If you want an instrument with more variety you will be disappointed. If you want an instrument for just the piano feel and sound, this is one of the best out there.

  • @boboladouche5268
    @boboladouche5268 7 лет назад

    Sampling technology in this keyboard is poor. It seems to simply alter the pitch. The same voice and treatment cannot make a violin sound like a viola, cello, or double bass simply by altering the pitch as you move down the keyboard. The dynamics (attack, decay, release, sustain, etc.) need to be altered. Sophisticated sampling engines will do more than just alter pitch. And they will sample the different instruments for the different keyboard ranges-not just one instrument. The piano sounds are very credible (they should be since Yamaha has decades of experience building real pianos). I wish they would focus on better (and more) organ sounds that I would use, and forget about novelty sounds I will never use (glockenspiel, crystal, air bells, celeste, star dust, penny whistle, digibell, carillon, balimba, kalimba, music box, etc.) I guess the market for this keyboard is people just playing around for fun. I am not a professional musician, but I wish they focused more on orchestral instruments I might use in indie film scoring or jamming with buddies. The strings and horns are a total embarrassment. Casio City (and I’m talking $99 Casio)!