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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +27

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    • @sibrayJP
      @sibrayJP Год назад

      I vote for a P-38 vs Mosquito dogfight.

    • @gtperfection1596
      @gtperfection1596 Год назад

      Can you please try to intercept a blackbird with the f22 raptor?

    • @TheCrnic
      @TheCrnic Год назад

      The Mig-21 is still being used today, but last will be retired by 2025. Can we get a Mig-21 Bandit Known please. Won't be easy.

    • @iwomayszko6074
      @iwomayszko6074 Год назад +1

      Maybe BVR with FA-18 vs Rafale ?

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 Год назад +1

      Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR

  • @Jester-nt1tw
    @Jester-nt1tw Год назад +84

    You make these fights look incredibly easy. As someone who uses DCS, I realize just how good you are at this.

    • @Axxetto
      @Axxetto Год назад +6

      When someone makes a skill look easy, it just means that they are super super good.

  • @reload54
    @reload54 Год назад +60

    Got addicted to watching your videos for about a month before finally pulling the trigger and playing DCS, now six months later it's pretty much all I play, and the addiction has set in.

    • @Just_some_Bible_Stuff
      @Just_some_Bible_Stuff Год назад +9

      ONE OF US

    • @YuFow
      @YuFow Год назад +2

      I wonder what would’ve happened if you flew the mirage against GS 🤔

    • @spine3595
      @spine3595 Год назад +1

      @@YuFow would of been interesting he's getting pretty damn good will have to try my luck again tonight against him

    • @YuFow
      @YuFow Год назад

      @@spine3595 I’ve seen his videos, some of his high aspect shots are super clean

    • @spine3595
      @spine3595 Год назад

      @@YuFow yeah i know i fight him pretty often he can be real scary when you dont expect it

  • @avramnovorra
    @avramnovorra Год назад +75

    The one standout in any Hornet dogfight is that howl i keep hearing from its 2 F404 engines, like in 7:29 and 8:26! It just stands out, like the buzz of a real hornet!
    As for manuever kills, i can indeed say i enjoy watching them occur. Gun and missile kills are always preferable but a bandit plowing themselves into the ground reminds me of boxing matches where the opponent is just completely out of it.

    • @louispenn9253
      @louispenn9253 Год назад +5

      The howl makes me yearn for the Avro Vulcan

    • @Axxetto
      @Axxetto Год назад +1

      Such a menacing beast

  • @ArnelCustodio
    @ArnelCustodio Год назад +102

    I love watching your dogfights. To me maneuver kills are like playing chess. If you know what you're doing, then you force your opponent into checkmate or make them quit (resign).

  • @_B_K_
    @_B_K_ Год назад +38

    I used to be an AC at NAS Lemoore for five years (tower and radar room) so I got the pleasure of working with F-18s every day during that time. They're incredible birds. Watching their training sessions and the things they could do... mind-blowing. I must say, though, that I was most impressed by the F-16 pilots, who would come by once in a while. Those guys would come in for a low pass at what seemed like 20-40 feet off the runway and just shoot off completely vertically like rockets... what a sight (they tried to show off in front of Navy guys all the time ;) ).

  • @T25de
    @T25de Год назад +15

    Last kill
    When you’re thinking oh no this isn’t good, but your enemy is saying the exact same thing

    • @NightOwlModeler
      @NightOwlModeler Год назад

      Looked like in the last fight the Mirage just pulled up into a full stall... see how slowly he's falling with his plane pointed straight down and GS is still manuvering yet the same vertical speed. The mirage just pancaked into the ground with better than 60-70 AoA as he fell.

  • @murphymmc
    @murphymmc Год назад +7

    Maneuver kills are satisfying. You can create an atmosphere of panic in your opponent, you can create one of overconfidence, you can create one of tunnel vision focus all in one fight at times.

  • @The1980Philip
    @The1980Philip Год назад +14

    Damn ... the other guy didn't survive ANY of the rounds. He tried ejecting in Round 2 but went splat before the chute opened up.

  • @vized2415
    @vized2415 Год назад +19

    Can we appreciate how GS was juking those rounds during the 3rd round? Holy shit!

  • @christoney2491
    @christoney2491 Год назад +10

    Maneuver kills are the best. You didn't have to shoot your opponent. You simply out-flew them.

  • @jasoncrawford4929
    @jasoncrawford4929 Год назад +6

    I think of maneuver kills as a compliment: they were so heavily focused on you pressuring them that they weren't paying attention to flying anymore due to panic

  • @benhitchcock3057
    @benhitchcock3057 Год назад +6

    Maneuver kills are just as valid as other kills. I fly R/C gliders in combat slope soaring, and if you force your opponent into the ground... then that counts just as much as hitting him and then he ends up on the ground. Excellent flying as always GS. Love your vids.

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy Год назад

      Sure, they're valid. But they aren't as satisfying to many people, myself included.

  • @stephenroach8033
    @stephenroach8033 Год назад +2

    Pilot over G'd(8.5Gs I think) in a Lot 10 18C back in 1996 during the Bosnian conflict. Maintenance crews had to pull all the strain gauges placed throughout the aircraft to determine if the aircraft was air worthy. It was.

    • @DirtyMardi
      @DirtyMardi Год назад +1

      I think the US Navy and McD&D went a bit conservative with the G rating, as now all C Hornets are 9G rated and have been for years.

  • @derliebej7675
    @derliebej7675 Год назад +2

    3:30 I love it: You're strafing thrue the entire neighbourhood but at least he's dropping into an empty field 🤣

  • @iohn8688
    @iohn8688 Год назад +24

    Would love to see you switch jets with your opponent after each kill.

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy Год назад +2

      He explained why he doesn't do that. The other player might not have both aircraft and even if they do, they might not be any good in it.

    • @iohn8688
      @iohn8688 Год назад +2

      @@wurfyy That's fair, though it wouldn't be hard to find a capable player every now and then or Collab with one of the many capable youtubers. If he doesn't then he doesn't no big deal, just my two cents lol.

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy Год назад

      @@iohn8688 Thing is, it's kind of nice that he does it the way he does. He usually finds opponents from his Discord group, meaning that you can join and might get lucky and end up in one of his videos.

  • @mrnolife9085
    @mrnolife9085 Год назад +13

    I would love to see some F-5 stuff again.
    Beautiful content as always keep it up :)

  • @basecoat1966
    @basecoat1966 Год назад +3

    How about a 4 man King of the Hill match?
    4 pilots, 1 merge then fight till only one remains.

  • @TheRealAaronSmith
    @TheRealAaronSmith Год назад +7

    The sound of the Hornet's gun in slow-mo 👌

  • @Paul_Sergeyev
    @Paul_Sergeyev Год назад +30

    Attempt 17!
    Could you please show us ground strafes with different weapon setups from ground perspective? We all know how A10 Brrrt sounds from the ground and looks on target, some even know that for Viper's 20mm, but I really wonder how a 37 mm, 6 x 50 cal., 23 mm MiG-21 and 30 mm MiG-29 long strafes would look and sound on target!
    Also, could you please bring out *the flying lol machine I-16 against the F-22?*

  • @cs12382
    @cs12382 Год назад +2

    I thought a minivan was trying to draw me into a rate fight earlier, but it turned out we both exited on a clover leaf.

  • @jacksonfam2611
    @jacksonfam2611 Год назад +3

    This fight was super cool! I can only imagine what the people on the ground are thinking! Next time could you do the Japanese F-2 vs the F-16?

  • @TiberiousTheLabrador
    @TiberiousTheLabrador Год назад +1

    nice to see you in the Hornet, Its such a gorgeous bird but I feel like its usually just a punching bag in your videos lol

  • @Elias-eo1vh
    @Elias-eo1vh Год назад +6

    A fox 2 fight between the mirage and the hornet would be cool to see

    • @nighthawk6755
      @nighthawk6755 Год назад

      Ye but the mirage 2000-5 not the 2000c sniping with ir at 50/75 km lol

  • @rtbarker
    @rtbarker Год назад +3

    It's good to see the hornet get some redemption! I would like to see you challenge yourself with a series against some more capable rival aircraft. Thanks for another great video!

  • @cortbailiff
    @cortbailiff Год назад +2

    The only daily video on RUclips I look forward to. Thanks again

  • @GreatistheWorld
    @GreatistheWorld Год назад +3

    Something magical about how the Mirage looks when it jinks

  • @smash79
    @smash79 Год назад +3

    Since we're getting a lot of you playing some good 2-circle fighter (well, F-18 isn't a part of them, but you still use 2-circle tactics here because he's better at this than the M2K). I would like to see you playing a really good 1-circle fighter (Flanker, M2K, F18 ...) against a really good 2-circle fighter like the F16 or the F14 (or anything better than your actual plane in a 2-circle), because 2-circle seems like ''godtier easy tactic'' to win when it's your strengh. But I think it's because you've pretty much mastered it haha !
    Would be cool. Appart of that, very good videos as always !

  • @jacktreacy4383
    @jacktreacy4383 Год назад +1

    Unbelievable videos mate, I live to see these every morning.... I'd love to see you fly the superhornet off a carrier into a massive dogfight, sort of like the video you did with the F-14!

  • @TictacAddict1
    @TictacAddict1 Год назад +1

    I work in the Defense industry. Some of my colleagues and I were discussing maneuver kills yesterday, consensus being they occur for two reason.
    1) Adrenaline filled target fixation by the aggressor in the fight.
    2) Too much attention given to the dominate aircraft by the defensive pilot who is in pure desperation mode.

  • @truthseeker9454
    @truthseeker9454 Год назад

    7:08 - And that, folks, is a flaming hot Dorito! Good kill, GS!

  • @kennethhicks2113
    @kennethhicks2113 Год назад

    Funny, how I learned too.. back in the 80's at Cecil Field Fl. when they replaced A7's there... I worked on them... in AIMD.... luv her : )

  • @paulgamegaming9378
    @paulgamegaming9378 Год назад +8

    A great match-up between 2 great dogfighters!

    • @icin4d
      @icin4d Год назад +1

      Um, GS=2, Ground=2, Mirage=nil. GS vs Earth, it's a tie. 🤣

  • @chrisjohnston8468
    @chrisjohnston8468 Год назад +1

    I love watching bandits join with their shadows!

  • @erikharmon6036
    @erikharmon6036 Год назад +1

    Rene fonck in his Newport 17 thought he could take GS in his f 18. Love it!

  • @roberthutchins4584
    @roberthutchins4584 Год назад +1

    Back in the day I played Air Warrior and my favorite plane was the P-38 lighting. The nose guns and cannons were so much easier in a dogfight

  • @Zelectrocutica
    @Zelectrocutica Год назад +1

    Hornet gun sight man.... if HUD say shoot ... you just click.
    I love it.

  • @George-ez4qc
    @George-ez4qc Год назад +3

    I think this fight would be 10 times more interesting if you get fox 2s in the mix, would really love to see it

  • @user-Predator1726
    @user-Predator1726 Год назад +4

    Good evening.
    First of all, thank you for the many videos you make. I admire your driving skills. I'm not as good at dogfighting. I don't know if you've seen any of my videos, but currently I can't defeat the su-33. With the Hornet...I got it by letting it chase me and it ended up hitting the ground...It's not really a win. I think I have better luck with the Mirage against the su-33. I had two duels and managed to hit the su-33. And your last video motivated me even more!
    Thanks! Predator1726 from France

  • @TStark-vj2wo
    @TStark-vj2wo Год назад +2

    Always have a laugh when you are worried for, /considerate of, the town folk.

  • @masonmcghee2571
    @masonmcghee2571 Год назад +2

    Please do F-35A vs F-22 BVR i think itd be a close fight and I would also like to see the F-35A do a SEAD mission. Been binge watching your channel and its really good stuff keep it up man.

  • @cuabcomstad
    @cuabcomstad Год назад +1

    Lol. True to their nature, the Baguette gives up in the last two.

  • @section8usmc53
    @section8usmc53 Год назад

    To answer your question, the maneuver kill is the best. You didn't have to kill your opponent. Better. You out flew him. You won because you made him screw up. That's outstanding.

  • @Axxetto
    @Axxetto Год назад +1

    Jesus christ, the way that mirage can instantly turn its nose and dump its energy is scary

  • @TexasGreed
    @TexasGreed Год назад +1

    Maneuver kills are the greatest. Even better when they don't know you're Winchesterino.

  • @Lancecorprol17
    @Lancecorprol17 Год назад +2

    Would it be possible to see a fight between the A4 Skyhawk vs the F-18 Hornet? The A4 was used as an aggressor for Top Gun against the f-18 and is still used to this day in aggressor roles with certain companies, notably Top Aces, a Canadian contractor that operates the A4N, amongst the Alpha Jet A model and A/B F-16s.

  • @RaamiKala
    @RaamiKala Год назад +1

    Great stuff as always

  • @fup_e531
    @fup_e531 Год назад +3

    This is weird, as soon as I get my friend into dcs you make a video on the 2 air craft that me and him are trying to learn (he's trying to learn the mirage and I'm trying to learn the f 18) this is so strange.
    PS: love your vids bro.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +2

      You learn the Hornet properly and you’ll kill him 100% of the time I think bruh good luck

  • @Wyvern088
    @Wyvern088 Год назад +1

    "Oh and he crashes into a field... luckily"
    -GS, moments after lighting up an apartment building like a Russian SWAT team.

  • @krausedj
    @krausedj Год назад

    I like when you talk about subtle visual cues. Like underbelly, etc, what lets you know, time to jink.

  • @davegrenier1160
    @davegrenier1160 Год назад

    Love the maneuver kills. They're forced errors, even if only because you manage to induce panic in your opponent.
    Although that last round was not a maneuver kill, that was just pilot error!

  • @nuclearscarab
    @nuclearscarab Год назад

    One of my most memorable and enjoyable kills was a maneuver kill. Two enemies on my six, seemed like they were not coordinating at all. Just as I saw them come side by side, I pulled hard to one side, hoping that their fixation would blind them to the danger. It did, they collided, and I got out of a nearly impossible situation.

  • @DoNuT_1985
    @DoNuT_1985 Год назад +1

    I would say maneuver kill is totally legit skill because it implies you put some pressure on the bandit and he is forced into a mistake or miscalculation.

  • @ostrich00
    @ostrich00 Год назад

    Your concern for the virtual homes is commendable lol

  • @voorhees7796
    @voorhees7796 Год назад +19

    Le mirage incroyable💞🇫🇷

    • @benwatso
      @benwatso Год назад +3

      Fax

    • @quinndenver4075
      @quinndenver4075 Год назад +2

      It has a subpar engine but otherwise yea

    • @filippopotame3579
      @filippopotame3579 Год назад +1

      @@quinndenver4075 Well it's 40 years old

    • @truthseeker9454
      @truthseeker9454 Год назад

      @@quinndenver4075 It's altimeter looked a little suspect in these fights, too. :^D

  • @sv_cheats-1909
    @sv_cheats-1909 2 месяца назад

    Cool vid, would watch again

  • @KillerKev1961
    @KillerKev1961 10 месяцев назад

    OMG, you splattered that M2000 on the first merge!

  • @gsd632
    @gsd632 Год назад +3

    Would love to see more of the Gripen in action. It's been a while. Anybody agree?

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 Год назад +3

    Want to see a series of you in the Heatblur F4 against Gen 3 and Gen 4 fighters. What can you doBVR and WVR in The Flying Brick?

  • @shermanflipse814
    @shermanflipse814 Год назад

    To win a rate fight and also have the AoA of the Hornet when taking the shot. Good feeling

  • @jerrodcorey25
    @jerrodcorey25 Год назад +2

    No "SLOW-MO" replay of the maneuvering kill ! !
    Really wanted to see that one from the exterior FLY BY CAMERA. Oh well. . . . ☹️

  • @humanerror7152
    @humanerror7152 Год назад

    Your wingman (Earth) did very well in this engagement

  • @paulosskouridys3208
    @paulosskouridys3208 Год назад +1

    Fun as always!

  • @sdghomero
    @sdghomero Год назад +1

    I guess those last fights are... sorta of a novel way to punch out.

  • @everydaycarrycanada951
    @everydaycarrycanada951 Год назад

    Round one you hit a few rounds into the turbine section. He crashed nose up with controllability. Yep it did turn fast.

  • @Matt-ku2gz
    @Matt-ku2gz Год назад +1

    Luv the vids 💪

  • @jhern083
    @jhern083 Год назад +1

    I don't play, I don't fly, but a maneuver kill seems like a flyers kill. Both pilots fought to the deck and the better pilot survived regardless of the weapons.

  • @jimhim6580
    @jimhim6580 Год назад +2

    Love your content

  • @richardlehoux
    @richardlehoux Год назад +2

    It’s like a force error in tennis (making an opponent crash)

  • @PatrickCarricoKY
    @PatrickCarricoKY Год назад

    Kinda like Hunt for Red October when the Russian submariners watch the USS Dallas do an emergency surface and they cheer.
    "Captain Sidewinder scared them out of the sky!"

  • @morotioye3669
    @morotioye3669 Год назад

    Well played!

  • @moistmike4150
    @moistmike4150 Год назад

    7:22 - "Mirage, meet Ground. Ground, Mirage."

  • @jjnipkow6997
    @jjnipkow6997 Год назад +2

    Love your videos!

  • @Kingonads
    @Kingonads Год назад +1

    Still waiting for a Fox-1 BVR fight with multiple enemies. A 1980s intercept mission. If youre scared say you're scared.

  • @conradogjonathancj6676
    @conradogjonathancj6676 Год назад +1

    poor people in the house 3:29😂

  • @ThatGuy-qy1de
    @ThatGuy-qy1de Год назад +1

    Getting a maneuver kill is virtually taking someone down wihout any weapons, as if just by force of thought.

  • @steamingh1606
    @steamingh1606 Год назад +1

    Hi GS! Is it possible that you can use DCS to teach us the technique of how to visual scan for bandits?Thanks!

  • @anthonyortiz6189
    @anthonyortiz6189 Год назад +2

    What would really impress me if GS can manage to split throttle the F-16 💀

  • @rene-bl5gq
    @rene-bl5gq Год назад +1

    The art of fighting without fighting aka maneuver kill.

  • @maitreytelang2312
    @maitreytelang2312 Год назад +14

    A 2 circle fight between these two would be interesting.

    • @nesher666
      @nesher666 Год назад +11

      You saw it a couple of times during this video, when GS transitioned into two circles rate fighting the Mirage.

    • @Pman353
      @Pman353 Год назад +1

      Almost every round was 2 circle…

    • @TomP-148
      @TomP-148 Год назад

      A good M2k pilot can 2 circle a hornet especially with the new flight model

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 Год назад +2

    I suspect that those field crashes still blew out a lot of windows lol.

  • @Raist474
    @Raist474 Год назад

    Growling Sidewinder: Property Insurance companies HATE HIM!!

  • @Maddogg414
    @Maddogg414 Год назад

    Love watching you play. Do more with Fat Amy.

  • @preston8008
    @preston8008 Год назад

    "Sure hope he doesnt hit someones house" says GS as he lights up an entire school building with 20mm lol 3:30

  • @fork9001
    @fork9001 Год назад +1

    How about a modernised/upgraded MiG-25? Titanium airframe will allow it to be maneuverable and fast.

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 Год назад +2

    Mirage is a nose pointing beast, but if it gets slow its a sitting duck.

  • @LuisDiaz-fs8uh
    @LuisDiaz-fs8uh Год назад +1

    How do you know what is optimum speed to rate at? Do you just go to AB and pull halfway on the stick? Is each aircraft different?

  • @neuromantiker7565
    @neuromantiker7565 Год назад +1

    what are the flight/design characteristics skal makes a fighter a one or two circle fighter?

  • @barbarossa1234
    @barbarossa1234 Год назад

    These videos are fun and educational.

  • @schadenfreude191
    @schadenfreude191 Год назад

    Great content, so addictive

  • @SLO4SpeedBump
    @SLO4SpeedBump Год назад +2

    Question; do these video planes have throttle control and air breaks ??? to prevent overshoot ???

  • @lessharratt8719
    @lessharratt8719 Год назад

    Dude, you rock.

  • @h31212
    @h31212 Год назад +1

    I see you've skillfully parried my nose! But can you parry...
    *...the ground?*

  • @treasd231
    @treasd231 Год назад +1

    can you explain the split S for me and when it would be useful. For some reason, in a lot of your videos whenever you merge with someone i don't think I've ever seen you use it?

  • @Wh1te_Phantom
    @Wh1te_Phantom Год назад

    Hey G, love love Your videos but i have a question, What is a G-Limiter?

  • @TheDillio187
    @TheDillio187 Год назад +1

    This is what happens when Colonel Stewart sets ground level at -300 feet

  • @arashakbari4355
    @arashakbari4355 Год назад +1

    Nice one, Can you do F15 vs Mirage or F15 Vs Flanker E ? Thanks in advance

  • @Haya-OhWaves
    @Haya-OhWaves Год назад +1

    Hello ! With so much skill, you really deserve this nickname: Michael Fight's On, the one who dances in the sky... 😉❤️

  • @MrAwombat
    @MrAwombat Год назад +3

    The ground wins every time

  • @GM-fh5jp
    @GM-fh5jp Год назад

    Clear use of Jedi Mind trick in that last round resulting in opponent hitting the ground.
    Pretty sure the Geneva Conventions prohibit that kind of bullshittery.