Oshi no Ko's Ending Explained: No One Understood

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  • Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024

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  • @kevinmac9442
    @kevinmac9442 10 часов назад +45

    I think some of the main issues with the ending come from the abrupt nature and how contradictory everything was to the ongoing character development. It doesn't make sense how throughout the series, Aqua is somebody capable of manipulation and leveraging characters into behaving how he wants, yet there was nothing clever about how he decided to take down Hikaru. By stabbing himself prior to initiating the fight, Aqua puts himself in a position were he may not be strong enough to guarantee defeat before dying of blood loss. Hikaru could have potentially survived and Aqua would have died for no reason. What about the knife? If the knife was discovered, it would have confirmed that Aqua stabbed himself, freed Hikaru of blame, and damaged Ruby's image. Along with Nino, there were other former B-komachi members that were unaccounted for. Even with Hikaru and Nino out of the picture, there could have potentially been other people after Ruby. Things may have felt better if they had Aqua try to utilize an intelligent plan that somehow failed and the only other option he came up with in the heat of the moment was physically stopping Hikaru in the same manner that happened in the manga as his last ditch effort to save Ruby's future. With the current ending, it could have worked fine if it had more chapters to flesh things out. Your description of the events sounds nicer than it actually was because it omits most of the flaws and contradictions this end created/left unanswered and adds thoughts/dialogue that wasn't present in the panels. I think the main reason there is so much discussion about this ending is because how poorly written it was and not necessarily because people weren't okay with tragedy. Either way, you did a good job explaining things and covering the topic despite my small critic👍

  • @LileaLankyBox-ci7pc
    @LileaLankyBox-ci7pc 9 часов назад +26

    I feel like the ending getting ppl to talk about it this much was like when Ai died
    When Ai died there were a lot of controversy among her fans which is similar to the situation happening now
    This ending that Aka made in my opinion is quite smart since wut is happening now is like wut had happened in the manga Aka has created a ending that led us fans to react the same way as Ai’s fans in the manga
    We still have our bonus chapter coming so we should not throw so much backlash yet….and when the anime adapts this there will most likely more to add as filler
    This is just my personal opinion but I’m actually curious if anyone else has noticed it…

  • @JoshuaJBellShow
    @JoshuaJBellShow 10 часов назад +24

    And I also think that Kana was kind of pushed aside

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 9 часов назад +10

      Yeah, it always seemed like the next chapter was going to be her time to shine, then the next chapter and so on. She was always built up to that moment then forgotten about.

    • @RiddhikaSingh-hj1rl
      @RiddhikaSingh-hj1rl Час назад

      Well this is what happens with most of the side chracters in the end I wasn't surprised one bit

    • @BocchiSite
      @BocchiSite Час назад +2

      Its dissapointing really, Kana didnt win once in this story

  • @aniemox
    @aniemox 9 часов назад +17

    It really was a bittersweet ending and i wished Aqua survivd but in the end Aka planed the stroy to go that way for a long time maxbe from the beginning and i kinda excepted it after rereading everything again. I just wished Aka made 2 or 3 more chapters for everything that happened after Aqua's death/after Aqua's body was found. We never saw how Ruby got the news about her brothers death or what happened after Miyako, Ichigo, Mem and Kana saw the news of his death on TV.
    I'm sure Miyako broke down i mean she loves Aqua like her own son and all we got was three panels of them shocked and the lack of dialog is a point too. But i still love Oshi no Ko and i'm looking forward to the Anime (and to go through all the pain again, lol) and maybe i will give Kaguya-sama and Aka's new Manga a chance too.
    Not everyone can be pleased and it's still his story and it hurts how people on X attack Mengo and Aka

  • @tsurbwobniar20
    @tsurbwobniar20 11 часов назад +26

    Aqua dies, leaving all the friends and loved ones he's made over the course of the manga behind, but at least he's killed Hikaru and landed Nino in prison, keeping Ruby safe for good. Despite the heartbreak that takes some longer than others to recover from, everyone eventually moves on from his death, and are motivated to work harder than ever to honor his memory. This culminates in Ruby fulfilling the dream Ai never could - performing at the Tokyo Dome. But I still wish Aqua didn't have to sacrifice himself to kill Hikaru. I would've preferred if he and the others could've just exposed Hikaru for all his crimes (Like how Edward Elric was able to expose Father Cornello for being a fraud pretending to be a Messenger of God and like how Marinette Dupain-Cheng exposed Lila Rossi (Or whatever her real name is) for being the evil lying sociopath she truly is) with an Engineered Public Confession or something and bring him to justice? Aqua's death still feels so messed up, especially since it reminds me of what happened to Fred Weasley (Harry Potter series), Pierce Wheels (Ben 10 Series) and Pietro Maximoff/Quicksilver (Marvel Cinematic Universe). Not to mention Haruto Tokishima from Valvrave the Liberator. 😥😭🙍💔🌧️🌩️

    • @RipperRoo92
      @RipperRoo92 10 часов назад +2

      Facts 💯
      That's exactly how I viewed the story ending but I didn't want to go in full detail.

    • @andybsj
      @andybsj 10 часов назад

      What would happen if he stab him and kick him out of the railing?

    • @lunarbat6009
      @lunarbat6009 7 часов назад +1

      Miraculous mentioned ‼️🐞🐈‍⬛

  • @nailin18
    @nailin18 5 часов назад +4

    Though it did left me wanting something more, I don't think it's a bad ending by any means, just a deeply upsetting one, and so people can't process it properly. I would have liked to spend some more time with Ruby to know what's going on with her more, I mean she did choose life so there is that to be hopeful, but then again maybe I don't want to know.
    I'll have to reread to say if his murder self-deletion is in or out of character for Aqua, there was definitely a reversal of his character development once he figured out that his target was still alive.
    The thing is, Aqua suffers from that very common Japanese MC mental disorder, the belief that he needs to take all the burdens on himself because he knows that's what is best for everyone around him, but of course that's just hubris and self devaluation.
    Like Akane said in the past chapter they could have planned the perfect crime together, but of course Aqua wouldn't want involve anyone into murder or risk harming Ruby career. I mean of course if given the choice Ruby would have chosen Aqua's life over realizing their mother's Dream, it did not need to end like this and Aqua is just a fool, and I think at his very final moments Aqua realized that too, but then it was too late.
    In that I'm reminded of Jujutsu Kaisen, how sometimes you can curse a person without meaning to, Aqua self righteous sacrifice becomes a curse onto Ruby, her Dream of realizing her mother lifework becomes the curse of having to live like she did, becoming a beacon of hope by projecting a happiness she herself do not have, and hoping these lies will one day become true to herself as well, I only hope it wont take another 15 years. It's very dark, but I think it's by design.

  • @tsurbwobniar20
    @tsurbwobniar20 11 часов назад +11

    Two of the original B-Komachi members Takamine and Nino made their appearance in chapter 132. But the other four members (Meimei, Watanabe, Ari & Kyun) did not. I still wonder what happened to them and what their currently doing after they quit being Idols. I also hope maybe someday there will be an Oshi No Ko spin-off Manga that focuses on other Oshi No Ko characters including Minami Kotobuki. Heck a What If Manga would've been great too. Fans should definitely request for Manga's like these.

  • @sumitroy3483
    @sumitroy3483 6 часов назад +5

    Everyone is asking the reason for Aqua's Suicide. I would like to share anonymous comments which try to explain his death.( Credit:FoxbytheSea)
    Aqua had deep issues, even with his life as Gorou, he was already scarred. His first mother died giving birth to him, and his father I can’t remember but I think he dies shortly afterwards too, and was raised by his grandmother. He decided to study medicine and become a gynecologist/obstetrician in order to save other women, or rather save other children from suffering his same fate. That had left him already with some guilt feelings and sense of abandonment. In his second life his mother, his idol, his “love”, in case you could consider he was in love with Ai, was also taken from him as a child, in an even more traumatic way. His second father was a psychopath manipulative snake. He tried playing hero for all and being altruistic and careless about himself, but at the end he was just a child, a scarred and afraid child. He was always being a kind of patch adams in his first life, behaving almost childlike in the hospital, even a nurse called him out like that. In his second life he was more closed and mysterious, composed and cold, calculating. Can’t blame him, first the trauma of Sarina, then being killed by a random guy trying to protect the privacy and career of Ai at the hospital. I can remember at least 4 times where he openly talked about ending his life, or mentioning his life was worthless or meaningless, that’s why he never thought further after his revenge. But that’s the thing, at first all his life as Aqua was about revenge, but then at the end it was about protecting Ruby. He finally found out his real purpose in life. Or rather shifted it for him to be able to go in peace. He always thought he was just like Ai, unable to love, and not worth loving because of his abandonment issues, daddy issues, and mommy issues. He felt he wasn’t worthy of love, worthy of life. This manga is very deep, and Aquas character is very well depicted with a LOT of mental issues. He didn’t want an escape goat. He wanted it all to end, and he knew he would have to go if he was gonna take out Kamiki. He wanted it this way. That’s what Akane’s narrative is about the past two chapters. It’s a sad manga. It’s about trauma and moving on. You literally have the two sides of the coin with Aqua and Ruby. Sarina embraced her new chance in life, tried her best to follow her dreams and chase after them. Live it to the fullest, even now at the end, she is depicted as the one that wants to move on, live on, hang on to her dreams. Aqua embraced death. It is actually well written in an almost poetic way. It’s written in a very “magical realism” way, in a very in-depth psychological way. Aqua was an “Oedipus”. Was in “love” with his mom, killed his father, commuted suicide.
    Anyone which have other opinion please share your thoughts

  • @richt63
    @richt63 10 часов назад +5

    He was destined to sacrifice himself. This was pretty much revealed by the plot itself. He was involved with two girls Akane and Kana. But the story wasn't about one of those Harem comedy slice of life stories. It was cleverly written by the author to provide a distraction so the reader will think that Aqua would choose life. But he didn't at the end. He loved his sister. He wanted her to live her dream and removed any obstacles. Also the fact he couldn't really choose between Akane and Kana. He loved them both. Despite what people may say, Kana loved him. But Akane was there for him. She was with him and helped him to come to terms with the death of his mother in volume 7 of the Manga. And she also helped Kana get out of her slump. People don't give Akane much credit. it is what it is. Glad the author ended the manga way he did. I hope that the Anime ends the same way. It is a great story. Could have added more to the story on how Ruby came to terms with Aqua's death. But it takes time and you never forget. I should know I lost my parents back in 1999. They are always with me. So will Aqua be with all of them especially with his sister. He and his mother Ai Hoshino.

  • @abarr2951
    @abarr2951 10 часов назад +5

    As someone who did not invest in the series but watched the premier of the Anime, I have to say that this is kind of what I expected of how the series would end
    At the beginning, Aqua was out for revenge and it was only natural that one would believe it would be the cause of his death.
    Ruby was out to be an beloved Idol just like her mother and that was how it ended for her.
    Yes, I know a great matter of events happened between the beginning and the end of the series, but at its heart, we had two different goals each sibling set out to have; thus I kind of see why the author chose this ending

  • @kokoro7996
    @kokoro7996 11 часов назад +14

    I think the idea of ending is good. However, from the way the story got to that ending, and the lack of chapters after Aqua’s death, the ending feels hollow in my opinion.

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 9 часов назад +2

      Exactly, it feels rushed to the point that its hollow. There wasn't meaning in any of it other than to simply finish the story so the author could move on to something else. It feels like Game of Thrones ending.

    • @srenorsomethin9
      @srenorsomethin9 Час назад

      I liked the concept for the ending, the problem was it was executed horribly, or more specifically everything just got resolved in barely 2 chapters. Like I refuse to believe these people just moved on that quickly when Aqua was someone so important to their lives :/

    • @hayyeh7795
      @hayyeh7795 Час назад

      Well, that's also what it feels like in real life. It's hollow and abrupt when someone suddenly dies, but then again we'll be getting extra chapters

  • @Isukiri544
    @Isukiri544 8 часов назад +6

    I’ll just copy my comment from another video:
    I think people didn’t like it because it wasn’t an entirely happy ending and was more bittersweet , but I think that’s fine.
    I never really went to this story expecting a truly happy end. I thought the ending was actually good and it was a solid culmination of the over all theme: that this is a world covered in fakes and lies, but through said lies we can inspire and love others. People also criticized that the ending didn’t “feel” like a finale and that the status quo wasn’t changed but I feel like that’s more realistic for this story.
    In the end, you can’t truly change everything (I mean look how things are in real life) but it’s entirely up to you to try to make it better for others and I think that’s what Aka was trying to do with Ruby for the ending.
    I also saw the story being about second chances, and how Aqua was able to give a lot of characters a second chance to improve themselves and live on (even if he had to be a martyr for that to work).
    But yeah, it’s not a perfect ending (and that’s fine) but I think it’s a good ending overall and I was left satisfied.

    • @windeen
      @windeen 4 часа назад

      I'm fine with bittersweet or sad endings. I just felt like the writing dropped in quality and too many loose ends were left, as well as plot holes. But I've already mentioned that elsewhere on some other places, and this will be long enough without my getting into all of them.
      I won't get into all my issue with it, but I wanted to say that the sad ending isn't necessarily the cause on its own.
      Not for me and not for some others. It's the drop in writing quality between 135 and 165 - with real interest of Akasaka seeming to leave around 143 other 144.
      As for the drop of quality:
      Akasaka also has a history of loosing interest in his stories (from what I have heard/read of his past works) and ending them as soon as he looses that interest.
      And it feels like around 144 he started to lose interest in the series fast.
      He's also already had 1 or 2 works refused for publication in (I think) the last year, while Oshi was running full steam ahead and he's gotten his next series planned with a release planned for January or Febuary.
      This indicates that he's likely been growing more and more disinterested in this series since he had those other 2 refused and likely ended Oshi as soon as he got the go ahead for this new series.
      I've read things that state that this is what has happened with Kaguya Sama's manga (never watched or read it, because it never interested me much) and 1 other series at least (though everything I've read just says "one other series of his" - so I haven't gotten a name).
      It seems like he crashes the landing of his series often because he becomes disinterested. I'm a fine artist under my real name and also write.
      I get that being bored or burnt out is human nature at times. As well as loosing interest.
      In those cases, rather than rushing to end your stories, you should take a long hiatus (longer than the one they took before the ending).
      Meanwhile Mengo has stated that she was putting all of her attention into Oshi No Ko, and as a result has nothing planned right now.
      Though I assume after spending time with her family over the holidays, taking time to deal with legal issues I've heard of her having and the holidays are over, she will likely connect with another author or start her own series.
      But the contrast between them is glaring. She put everything into it and Akasaka CLEARLY didn't put his all into it or even care to tie up any of the loose ends or plot holes.
      My issue is with that, rather than the sad or bitter sweet ending.
      I didn't like Aqua's death, but it was more that it was badly executed rather than him being dead.
      There are loose ends with all of the characters. But aside from how his death was executed from a writing standpoint, I have serious issues with Hikaru's writing as a character as well as the inclusion of the Crow girl at all, when she was never fully explained.
      She seems to only be there to talk to him as he was dying and Ai's spirit could have filled that roll. She could have at least visited Ruby one last time to give her some closure and understanding since he left he note.
      That would have felt more in character for Ruby, if she was in a bad mental state until it was fully or even somewhat explained to her.
      That kind of feels out of character for her to pull herself up and bounce back, considering her reaction to Gorou's death, and now she's essentially lost him a second time.
      Again, with nothing like a note or anything fully stating his feelings. The crow was mostly useless and not explained. There could have been so many uses for her with this ending that would have made it good.
      The last chapter would have been fine with me, if he built it up and it had been properly carried out and some things explained further.
      As an artist, I just don't like how Akasaka treated his story or his characters. And yes, he's not the visual artists, but writers/creators are also artists in my opinion.
      If an artist/writer doesn't care about their story or characters, then how are others supposed to do that when his disinterest shows through his writing?
      I can't respect that kind of artist: be they author/creator or a visual mangaka.

  • @martecoronel
    @martecoronel 3 часа назад +1

    I'm ok with the ending. I read it more as a tragic one, but that's not bad: not every story needs a happy ending, just one that makes sense. And I think this ending makes sense.
    I don't think Aqua needed to die, but it does "work". Maybe we could've gotten a bit more of an epilogue but that final chapter was sufficient.
    And I think it's a tragic ending because our heroine is sacrificing herself for the ideal instead of actually confronting her grief. I can't think living a perpetual lie is a way to be happy. But this 100% makes sense in OnK.

  • @tsurbwobniar20
    @tsurbwobniar20 11 часов назад +6

    Does anyone think both Yukine Hayakawa and Mero Setō from Jellyfish Can't Swim in the Night deserve to get complete comeuppance for their actions like Hikaru Kamiki and Fuyuko Niino? But not the kind of comeuppance the gets them killed like Hikaru.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 часов назад +6

    Thanks For this! Love your content . The ending was bittersweet but i loved it. Thanks For all your videos on this series 😊😊❤❤

  • @andybsj
    @andybsj 10 часов назад +5

    There are so many ways that she could have done it A expose his crimes or B killing him without getting himself killed ong

    • @davilboy5355
      @davilboy5355 5 часов назад +1

      expose his crimes without evidence?

    • @Fuko0139
      @Fuko0139 Час назад

      Stupid

  • @AliHassan-eh8je
    @AliHassan-eh8je 9 часов назад +3

    well at least we dont see who mc gets with because its no one people will not fight over it now

  • @amberknight7301
    @amberknight7301 6 минут назад

    Here's why I think this ending is a slap in the face. Ruby ends up with the same curse Ai had. Ai lied to herself and everyone to keep moving forward, she fell into despair and hated everything, only getting a shred of hope through her children. Ai never cared about her fans (and frankly Ruby doesn't either and neither does the audience). All of it was lies, she was obligated to make people smile, not because she wanted to, but because she had to. Ruby ends up the same, a beacon that is forced to smile because that's what's expected of her, but inside, she lies to herself that everything is okay and that this path is okay because she thinks Ai and Aqua wanted this for her. She'll eventually fall into despair just like Ai did. It doesn't feel like a noble sacrifice Ruby is making to become the beacon the world needs, it feels more like she's doing this because that's what she thinks her family wanted for her. Thus the curse continues with everyone lying to get through it. It's a slap in the face because we got all the way here only for nothing to actually change. Sure, it's bittersweet, but then what was the point of the story? Just to tell us 'there's no escape, give up and keep lying'? Oshi no Ko painted the idol industry as a place of darkness and manipulation, where misplaced love and the lies that spawn that kind of love bring harm to everyone, but never did it really paint these things as a necessary evil. That's why this ending doesn't work. A bittersweet ending to a story that was building towards a resolution leaves everyone unsatisfied.

  • @konradbawan8581
    @konradbawan8581 4 часа назад +1

    I know fans that wanted to see Aqua, and Ruby shipping at the end, and even having kids. The manga author did planned this divided fan reaction on purpose.
    Ps. I guess that the Idol industry will get more support in Japan thanks to this manga's popularity.

  • @Infinmask
    @Infinmask 11 часов назад +12

    the ending was bittersweet but it wasn't that bad as some people say it is (but it is my opinion )

  • @jonathanmerritt6514
    @jonathanmerritt6514 10 часов назад +2

    If you ignore narrators, and think of it as a Serina/ Aqua through story, it makes sense. If you look at Noh theater, it is common to have a plot start the story to get the characters to a spot where the real story begins. Then at the end the original conflict is never addressed.
    Spirited Away does something similar. The family takes a short cut because they are very concerned with meeting the movers at the house. They absolutely do not make it in time to see the movers.
    I may not be stringing these thoughts together well, as I am thinking about your video and shooting from the hip.
    I was just thinking, if you think of Ai as there for Ruby’s initial inspiration, and Aqua there as narrative device/ supporting character, then maybe the story has a through-line based on that.
    Also, bonus! All the people that would have been angry if Aqua shipped with the wrong girl..Problem solved!

  • @EvanmarleyDixon
    @EvanmarleyDixon Час назад

    From what I've heard after watching people like Chibi give his opinion, it sounds like the ending was too rushed, the focus wasn't always on the right place, & some story elements went nowhere or wernt used enough & just forgotten about.
    I do like the way evarywan moves on with their lives, how Ruby has 2 ⭐️, implying she's become just like Aai, & the series is a good comanterry on the industry in general.
    If I were to change anything, I'd have Aqua being found by 🚔 & 🚑 and show him die & it would go something like this...
    🚔 🚑: Find Aqua & ask if he's ok.
    Aqua: asks about the dome concert.
    🚔 🚑: tells him everything is fine.
    Aqua: dies picefully with a smile on his face, knowing Ruby is safe.
    This would make Aqua feel less selfish & more caring for Ruby's safety & have more of an emoshanal impact & would fit comfortably on only 1 or 2 more pages.

  • @foundapurplecrabiadoptedit9692
    @foundapurplecrabiadoptedit9692 2 часа назад

    The ending was fine for me, the only complain I have was that the last 3 chapters felt like a recap, it was entirely in Akane’s POV while she was mostly narrating everything during the grieving period and after that. I was hoping for different character perspectives and how they were coping with Aqua’s death. Kinda how bnha ended, it was a bittersweet end as well but the last 5 chapters had different character POVs, like how they were dealing with their own issues and how they were coping. It wasn’t perfect, but at least you got a lot of people’s thoughts and feelings. I was hoping more on that, but we’ll see on the extra chapters, there might be more about the different characters.

  • @tarlison2k1
    @tarlison2k1 3 часа назад

    It's a life for a life, for Ruby to live and have her dream, Aqua must pay for it with his own life and dream

  • @jeffreybyrd2081
    @jeffreybyrd2081 3 часа назад

    I think we need more than this at the end to see how each character handled it in depth

  • @TwoforceXoxo
    @TwoforceXoxo 6 часов назад

    I think we should have got more chapters. Showing one-two panels of characters, I feel like is not enough. Theres´s still some unresolved things. For example, what was Akane´s conclusion who were the other four members along with Ai etc..., Though it was a bad ending,It was for the plot itself. Alot of people think that he had to live, because he had to choose between Akane, Kana or caring about Ruby. But no, this is what i call "gaslighthing". Because Aka wanted for us to think "Aqua has to live,because he needs to choose one" Until they realized this is not a romance story. This goes the same for Ai "She has to live for the sake of Aqua and Ruby "It was all about Ruby representing and going beyond AI. Let´s be real tho, we all wanted the romance ending, especially ending up with Akane. I don´t really see a reason why there would be a reason,why Aqua would choose Akane over Kana. I don´t feel like Akane´s getting enough credits from people. She literally was with Aqua all the time,even saying she would go to hell with him, while Kana wanting Aqua to be in her concert. Like for real? Itw would be so abrupt to see Kana with Aqua. Going into the ending. I don´t see a reason why Aqua should´ve died. Well let´s take into prespective. There´s no such reason why Aqua should´ve died. Let´s take into account, that iff Aqua was a "good brother" he wouldn´t just stab himself, knowing the risks of him dying is undeniable. And I don´t agree when he said "for the sake of ruby" That´s just not true. As a "smart" person, he should be aware that sacrificing is just not the best option. He should be aware that, giving Ruby, Akane, Kana etc.., Especially Ruby depression. Especially Ruby, because that time when she found Goro´s dead body, it lookes like she was about to suicide, but after finding out about that Aqua was Goro. She regained her happiness,but then Aqua strikes her with his death, all I can say is, she was not happy. Despite the risks Aqua took by unaliving himself to basically eliminate Hikaru, that guy still said for the sake of everyone... What if Ruby did a suicide, well yeah she shouldn´t because Aqua´s efforts would be useless, well let´s imagine a case scenario where for example Ruby was just devastated or perhaps went insane, and unalived herself. Like Aqua dying was so pointless. Just for killing hikaru, which could´ve been done countless ways. He unalives himself. The cycle starts again. "If you have an enemy, start digging a grave fro yourself at your enemy"
    Akane supermacy forever.
    Overall I loved the series, just the ending. defenitelly top 1-3.

  • @ronaldperez9606
    @ronaldperez9606 10 часов назад +1

    This was a great ride. Endings are one of the most difficult parts of a story. I trully believe that is unfair to judge the whole series by the ending, this was trully a great manga. Hope there will be more in the future from Aka Akasaka.

  • @AstronScion
    @AstronScion 11 часов назад +4

    Its just the execution was poor and it feels like lessons weren't learned. Ruby wanted her brother to be with her. Why would we want we want Ruby to be like her mother? Also the police would have figured the knife/figure print which why Aqua is poorly thought through for most of us.😊

  • @Fuko0139
    @Fuko0139 Час назад

    Looking at the comment section and the official onk manga server I've noticed that many people don't even understand the story or even basic stuff, people are saying stuff like aqua suicide wasn't revealed earlier but they literally hinted it early on and aqua himself said in an chapter something about him dying and ruby managing without being depressed, another question is that people are asking why aqua didn't report Hikaru to the police? That's such a stupid question, aqua had no proof whatover and hikaru is a big figure, he's not easy to take down at all. There are still many questions manga readers are asking that have already been revealed, istg many manga readers are just ignorant.

  • @SweetSentiLight101
    @SweetSentiLight101 8 часов назад +1

    Yea of course no one understood the ending! Ngl this will probably show in the anime and live action ,so get ready!!! Also....since they have one last thing to show us in December which is the special edition and regular edition...coming in December 18,i hope its a final good ending which will make us forget everything that was ever bad!❤

  • @DragonZero1212
    @DragonZero1212 2 часа назад

    Movie arc didn’t build up and match to Toward The Dreams and Stars arc. Here’s the problems:
    MeiMei didn’t appear along side with Takamine and Nino for approval of using her name
    Kana was the only one to know Nino want to be friend with Ai. It didn’t match what Akane said plus Ruby didn’t know about this.
    MeiMei should be the hidden villain and reveal to be the sister of Hikaru due to her Chinese name
    Frill supposed to be the daughter of Airi and Hikaru. There’s should be more to the story.
    Aqua should learn that he was acting as Ryosuke and Hikaru that knowing Kana reminds him of Ai and act as Nino. To build up the relationship together.
    Aqua ask to reshoot his movie by having Kana replace Ruby as Ai to understand how Kana and AI’s life is related.
    No one ask about Kana’s parent. That would be the main key for 15 years lie
    Crow said two people: the college student which is Ryosuke and the middle student which is Hikaru. Where did Nino come from?
    Kana should learn about 45510 and knowing Nino’s view of Ai which make her a better Ai than Ruby
    Kana knows who’s the traitor of B-Komachi which turn out to be MeiMei
    MeiMei is connected to the Panda which is Nino
    MeiMei frame Nino with blackmail and threatens
    Nino’s hair looks similar to Kana
    The whole center should be Kana, not Ruby
    The real problem is the THEME.
    Never replace the original stars with false stars.
    Ai and Ruby replace Nino and Kana. The lies hide the truth.
    The morning star turn out to be Venus.
    The yellow hide the red. That is why Kana is the center while Ruby and Memcho are by her side.
    The ending that should have been:
    Aqua was preparing to kill Hikaru but suddenly Kana appear in front of him, stopping him. Ai demand Kana to move away. Kana slap Aqua and call him “Idiot.”
    Kana explains that everything you wish for won’t come true. Aqua told Kana that Hikaru need to die and willing to sacrifice to protect Ruby. Kana grab Aqua’s hands and force to herself to get stab. Aqua and Hikaru are shocked what Kana did. Kana told Aqua, “you got your revenge. I’m Nino.” Aqua realized that Kana was acting as Nino in the movie. Aqua felt guilty for Kana and the reason to fail protecting Ai. Aqua grab Kana and rush to the hospital. Everyone came and learn Kana’s selfish action. Aqua blame himself for hurting Kana. Aqua request to drop Nino charges and have Hikaru take the blame for attempting murder of Kana. Aqua give the knife to the police and lies that Hikaru and Aqua fight until Hikaru stab Kana. Aqua apologize to Nino how she was mistreated for Ai replacing her. Kana awake up. Aqua apologize to Kana for using her to get his revenge. Ruby understand the original star cannot be replace. Ruby decided to not play as Ai and let someone else play as Ai which she ask Kana. Kana accept her role as both Ai and Nino. Hikaru was on the news as everyone boo at him for trying to murder Kana. Kana became a rising star since her child star debut. Nino made Kana and her mother reconciled themselves.
    Kana and Nino acting like mother and daughter perform at the dome. Old and new B-Komachi together. Kana see the white glow sticks. Nino finally realized that Kana was Amaterasu that she prayed for and the star she made a wish to surpass Ai. Shima promise to make a movie about Kana play as Nino’s child turn out to be Oshi no ko.

  • @asmraiyan3091
    @asmraiyan3091 4 часа назад +1

    we all understand everything. We just don't love it

  • @BocchiSite
    @BocchiSite 58 минут назад

    Im fine with Aqua dying, just that im pissed that got we dont get much closer for other charactersz like it was too short after that. Especially for Kana, she kept on taking Ls

  • @Gamerlord17
    @Gamerlord17 2 часа назад

    With MHA people hated the ending because they either was predisposed to hating it, fake leaks and mistranslations along with the fact that a lot of actual fans were mad their head canon was wrong.
    JJK straight up just has an objectively bad ending and nothing makes sense, feels satisfying or earned at all.
    Hearing the ending to Oshi no ko...I struggle to understand why people are mad. Everything seems to have wrapped up and plots have come to their conclusion in a way that(to me at least) makes sense.

  • @frankieM_
    @frankieM_ 6 часов назад

    It left me unsatisfied, disappointed, and confused tbh. It was jarring how much of a 180 it just pulled by reintroducing Hikaru like that and Aqua's "plan" to do murder-suicide believing it to be his only option.
    9:31 that post is true af
    I feel really bad for Ruby the most, girl went through so much and it just glosses over her grief in 3 pages and then goes "she moved on" like, what? Not to mention shes been pretty much relegated to a plot device for most of the series with how little character development and focus she received even though shes the co-protagonist

  • @andrefaria6023
    @andrefaria6023 6 часов назад

    The reason why the majority of the community doesn't like the end has nothing to do with the fact that it's bittersweet or even depressing. Cyberpunk Edgerunners, for example, also has a bittersweet ending. The difference between each series' respective public perception was the execution. Edgerunners was well received despite being tragic because the story unfolded in a such a way that respected what came before it. All of the major plot points introduced in earlier episodes where concluded IN A WAY THAT MADE SENSE and each character's actions coincided with their previously established motivations and development over the series. This is something Oshi no Ko failed to do.
    Take Aqua's character for example. By the time the movie arc is over, he's moved on from revenge and starts living a normal life surrounded by the ones he loves. He even starts studying for medical school, something the manga makes sure to show multiple times. This emphasizes Aqua's newfound purpose and objective. This would lead you, as the reader, to believe Aqua would take a more cautious approach when dealing with Hikaru, possibly with Akane's help (which also another plot point introduced earlier in the story), right? Well, instead stabs himself, before somehow managing to take an unharmed Hikaru down with him...
    Not only does this come across as a cheap twist, because there was no way to predict this outcome based on Aqua's previous behaviour, but the sheer amount of things that could have gone wrong with the plan make it hard to stay emotionally invested. What if Hikaru simply dodged or overpowered Aqua? He would have dies for nothing. The way that whole scene plays out is so improbable if feels artificial. If the reason Aqua dies was different, like a sacrifice protecting Ruby, I don't think the manga would be getting as much hate.
    The point is, there's a million different ways the confrontation could've have played out, and we seemingly got the worst one, where Aqua dies for no reason and Hikaru gets off easy by dying, instead of rotting in jail.
    The later part of the manga as a whole all suffers from similar issues, where the story either feels rushed or doesn't line up with what previously came before it. Reading the last 20 - 30 chapters, I couldn't help but shake the feeling the author was just trying to finish the managa as quickly as possible, with no regard for the story or the reader. It really is a shame, considering the potential this manga had... Hopefully, the anime makes some changes, at least to make this watchable.
    This series remains as one of my all time favourites, but thanks to this ending, I don't think I'll be revisiting it anytime soon.

  • @icefiredawn
    @icefiredawn 8 часов назад +1

    I appreciate that extra information, but a story is alive on its own even if it was their intention to get people to talk about it...The story was still murdered too many stories have been murdered for the sake of shock factor and drama. There are many aspects of the lack of message behind the series now, and all the foreshadowing/symbolism fell on the wayside as if it never mattered. Alas I will watch the anime (if they even get another season after 3, highly doubtful with this ending) and see where that goes.

  • @laelhochberg9497
    @laelhochberg9497 8 часов назад

    Most people are entitled to their own opinions. I'm a bit annoyed with the ending. Some will agree with me, while others will disagree with me. In my opinion, the story should have a reimagining, but from the perspective of a different protagonist.
    In my mind, in this reimagining of the story, the protagonist would be Aqua and Ruby's kouhai Ren Niino, the son of physicist professor who happens to be Fuyuko Niino's older brother, making Fuyuko a teenage aunt.
    Ren's father, Akihiko, is married to Shizuka, Ren's mother who also happens to be a Reincarnation Searcher. In the case of Shizuka's idea involving reincarnation, the process for one's soul to reincarnate into a new body actually takes 18 months. The first nine months is actually the process of the soul of a recently deceased person or someone who's been dead for a very long time to inhabit a new body for them to be reborn into, through a ritual of some sort which involves removing their memories of their past lives, in order to prepare them for their reincarnation. The second nine months is simply the process of a baby with the now adjusted soul wiped of the memories of its previous life developing inside its mother.
    Shizuka also experimented on herself to test out her theory. The result, while successful, left Shizuka in a coma after she gave birth to Ren. As out turns out, similar Aqua and Ruby, Ren happens to be the reincarnation of someone who died a long time ago. The only difference is that Ren's past self is someone who was warned at a very young age about the dark side of the entertainment industry, which resulted in his…or rather her fear of exploited. Yes, Ren's past self was actually a girl.
    In the past, Ren's past self was girl by the name of Ayame Danzaki, the daughter of an ordinary middle class family, who were friends with a Politician and his wife who was an opera singer, and their daughter Fumino. The opera singer was the aunt of an Idol nicked named Angel, who was tricked by a shady group who was part of mob conglomerate to switch from her old company to their company. This was due to the fact Angel's father, the opera singer's brother, owed the company a huge sum of money. Angel agreed to join them in order to repay the company in her father's place. Not only that, she joined them in order to help her father, who recently suffered a medical collapse.
    Unaware to Angel, the company she switched to was also worked in the flesh peddling business. Under the guise of giving her a “new image”, they have Angel trained through public humiliation and risqué outfits. Once her training has culminated, auctioned off at “one of those” auctions for a hundred million yen.
    Only Angel's aunt knew what was going on after learning that her brother died during Angel's training. And after a humiliating event at a comeback stage performance, the opera singer and a detective she hired exposed the shady company. To celebrate her victory of exposing the company, the opera singer and her family invited Ayame and her parents to recital performance.
    The company, on the other hand, was not happy about being exposed, sent their personal hitman to eliminate the opera singer during the performance. Ayame caught wind of what was going on when she overheard the hitman calling their boss on the phone while she was on her way back to her parents after a trip to the bathroom. She attempted to warn her parents, even going to bathroom again to hide from the hitman until the coast was clear. Unfortunately, the hitman's ear were sharp as nails, and they strangled Ayame to death. Ayame's last thoughts were wanting to see her family safe again and wishing she were born as a boy.
    Ayame did get her wish, and she was reincarnated as the boy Ren Niino. The unfortunate part is that shortly after being killed, the hitman ended up killing Angel when she jumped in the way to save her aunt. Ayame's body was later discovered after everyone evacuated from the theater. Her parents and siblings mourned Ayame's death, and the opera singer, her husband and their daughter mourned Angel's death. An unexpected benefit is when Ayame was reincarnated as Ren, he gained the power of retro cognition.
    Now reincarnated as a boy, Ren decides to investigate circumstances surrounding the aftermath of Angel's death. The same events involving Ai would occur. Except in this case, Ai would survive thanks to being saved by fellow female guitarist from Canada, who ends up in a coma after being stabbed by Ryousuke. Don't worry, she recovers. Ai would be able to perform at the Dome and eventually go into retirement years later. The same events with Aqua, Ruby, Kana, Akane and Memcho would occur. Except this time, Ren and his younger sister Haruno would assist them. All the while, Ren gets further assistance from Fuminori, an assassin and an expert in stealth and espionage who also happens to be Shizuka's uncle. The crow girl would also appear from time to time, but would be interrupted by the mysterious boy who is accompanied by foxes.
    So…any thoughts? What do you think of my version of the reimagined story?

  • @Animexfanssuper
    @Animexfanssuper 7 часов назад +1

    Aqua and ruby forever ❤❤❤

  • @JoshuaJBellShow
    @JoshuaJBellShow 10 часов назад +1

    I also heard that My hero academia is getting an extended ending for the manga

  • @actionvids35
    @actionvids35 6 часов назад

    Feels like Ak a got tired or bore and just wanted to end the series. Either that he wanted to do a certain route or things way and the publisher would not let him or just simply wanted to be done with it and passion ran out. Since he beings writing another series in April of next year and another previous work got axed while he was working on Oshi no ko and perhaps that way he was bit salty and ended Oshi no ko the way he did since Oshi no ko was way more popular then the manga that got axed.

  • @AshleyOldham-x3w
    @AshleyOldham-x3w 8 часов назад

    It ended in my birthday moth my going to be 15 and ohis no ko ended looks like this is going to be my worst birthday ever

  • @hox6287
    @hox6287 9 часов назад

    Honestly, even though I quit reading around incest arc (Ruby asking Aqua to marry him) bc I find that topic deeply uncomfortable, I heard bits and pieces from videos. It was pretty clear to me that this show isn't gonna have a happy ending and is taking an almost too realistic twist. It's no happy show, it has deeply problematic characters and handles deeply problematic themes (not a bad thing). If this show had a happy "everyone lives, ships happen" ending I would be disappointed. It's a good finish to the series, just a unhappy/tragic ending.

  • @wb2860
    @wb2860 10 часов назад +9

    The ending was a disgrace. Total disrespect for the readers. "I'm bored so I'll screw all the people that gave me their time and money." I will never read this author again.

  • @ElleEd-wt8bh
    @ElleEd-wt8bh 2 часа назад

    I understood the ending I just didn’t like it cause Aqua was my favorite character and I just wanted to see him live

  • @jacara1981
    @jacara1981 10 часов назад +11

    Its been a year of horrible endings.
    Aqua was never shown to be the type to commit suicide. The whole end was rushed so much that basically disregards the whole story before it.
    I can accept Aqua dying, but the way it was done and how all the other characters are treated really seems like it got the Games of Thrones treatment for the ending.

    • @Yurinkin
      @Yurinkin 9 часов назад +1

      Indeed. Whole year

    • @elreyleon4637
      @elreyleon4637 9 часов назад

      Aqua said that he wanted to die (or least having autodestructive toughts) in a Lot of chapters

    • @Isukiri544
      @Isukiri544 8 часов назад +1

      “It’s been a year of horrible endings” what are you taking about? MHA and OnK had good endings. The only one I didn’t really like was JJK. I swear the internet exaggerates so much.

    • @Light-qm9gv
      @Light-qm9gv 6 часов назад +2

      @@Isukiri544 for real, people are exaggerting some much it is insane, the ending was great, not perfect but it was actually good, I really don't get all the hate it is crazy

    • @BladeMasterIcarus
      @BladeMasterIcarus 4 часа назад +2

      @@Light-qm9gv I think some fans lost sight of the nature of the story being told. The way i saw it was Oshi no ko was always tragedy, just with themes about hope. Aqua ran out of both time and options to find a way of dealing with Hikaru and come back alive. Had he given Hikaru more time there is no telling the level of further danger Hikaru would pose to Aqua's friends and family.

  • @devingiles6597
    @devingiles6597 10 часов назад

    Hi, 414Anime. You should definitely cover 5 facts about Ranma Saotome from Ranma ½ in a future video. Pretty please?

  • @brianhall23
    @brianhall23 4 часа назад

    The last chapter was OK but the previous ones felt rushed.

  • @SLimes-ce3id
    @SLimes-ce3id 2 часа назад

    Imma be real, I love and hate this ending
    First piece of fiction that had made me cry is oshi no ko.
    The ending was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too rushed and I wouldve been fine with aqua dying if given more panels/chpaters talking about his death or why he died or just basically dragging the ending out.
    But I did see where aka was coming from though I disliked it Cuz it had the pacing that made it feel like a half tragedy
    I dislike the coming back in full circle theme as this shows that between ai and ruby there was no improvement even after a decade and a half
    Aqua suiciding even though his motive is to protect ruby is stupid because he couldve thought off a better plan
    Akane and kana had unfinished business with aqua as a whole.
    But in my opinion I accept the ending as canon as this couldve 100% happened in my opinion and this manga also holds an extremely special place in my heart.

  • @luisfernan-s7731
    @luisfernan-s7731 9 часов назад

    Lets just not feed the slop.

  • @l1fenr
    @l1fenr 2 часа назад

    WHAT ABOUT CROW GIRL?!?!?!!?!?!?!

  • @tsurbwobniar20
    @tsurbwobniar20 11 часов назад +2

    By any chance has anyone heard of any Japanese Idol-related anime that have been or have yet to be released like Love Live! Nijigasaki High School Idol Club (Anime), Love Live! Superstar!! (Anime), The Idolmaster Cinderella Girls U149 (Anime), THE iDOLM@STER Million Live! (Anime), Himitsu no AiPri, THE iDOLM@STER Shiny Color (Anime), Trapezium (anime film), Iris the Movie: Full Energy!!, Love Live! Nijigasaki High School Idol Club The Movie: Final Chapter-Part 1 (upcoming film), and/or Project SEKAI the Movie: Kowareta SEKAI to Utaenai MIKU (upcoming film)" by any chance? Just being curious that's all, but check them out if you ever get a chance. Also, it seems like the last one is based on the rhythm game Hatsune Miku: COLORFUL STAGE! Project Sekai.

  • @RipperRoo92
    @RipperRoo92 10 часов назад +1

    Aqua served his purpose in the story.
    He took that crazy psychopath with him, his mission was complete.
    The other things that fans wanted were more personal with the shipping and other stuff.
    I see the ending as very realistic especially with anyone who can relate to losing someone and their life cut short or near death experiences, having the strength to continue forward as life goes on.
    The author could wrap things up with the supporting cast 🤷🏿‍♂️.

  • @shinkaiatsuya950
    @shinkaiatsuya950 11 часов назад +1

    I'm just glad aqua didn't mysteriously get revived..one thing I don't like is suddenly unexplained revives. Hard to pull it off and not be frustrating imo.

  • @fellipesouza3197
    @fellipesouza3197 3 часа назад

    Insane🍷

  • @reverseflash7095
    @reverseflash7095 11 часов назад +1

    A star fell into the ocean so that the other would rise to the sky

  • @BigBadDogIV
    @BigBadDogIV 9 часов назад

    Wow the copium of this video. You literally ignored almost all of the written text explaining what was actually going on and just came up with a alternate ending based on nothing but the artwork. An alternative ending that completely contradicts what Aka actually wrote.

  • @HeckenschutzeMoH
    @HeckenschutzeMoH 10 часов назад +4

    The ending was so bad... hopefully the ending of My Arika (a near identical manga) will feel more satisfying.

  • @Grayson-Winchester
    @Grayson-Winchester 11 часов назад +2

    After the ending of MHA,JJK and Boy’s abyss nothing can faze me. I wasn’t mad about Oshi no ko ending , just board.

  • @vikingsword3485
    @vikingsword3485 8 часов назад

    It was a trash ending, pretty much told the audience to jump off a cliff.

  • @reevansingh21
    @reevansingh21 11 часов назад

    I'm sick of the sweet home Alabama trope in anime didn't read the manga heard about that not going to watch s2 or s3 of this

  • @akira8393
    @akira8393 4 часа назад

    Still coping huh...

  • @JoshuaJBellShow
    @JoshuaJBellShow 10 часов назад +2

    This is the reason why I'm hoping the anime adaptation flushes a lot of this stuff out and maybe even does kind of like an anime original ending that flushes a lot of stuff out which is part of the reason why people hated this chapter

  • @hardyanpajero69
    @hardyanpajero69 10 часов назад +1

    👍😎🍺🍩

  • @hijous
    @hijous 8 часов назад

    yeah, the ending is flop

  • @renashcroft8794
    @renashcroft8794 11 часов назад

    It's a bittersweet end to a truly special and radiant era :(~☆ But, I can't wait to watch another wonderful video from you, mate~♡ You are da beeesht, and long live the wonder of the stars, Oshi no Ko~!♡

  • @dyamicentertainmentstation2051
    @dyamicentertainmentstation2051 11 часов назад

    I love the ending to be honest

  • @RTDuellist
    @RTDuellist 11 часов назад

    I thought the story as a whole, including the ending, was absolutely amazing. As someone who's lost people dare to them, Including quite recently, I know how devastating it is and how big a hole that person can leave in your life. so I can definitely relate to the message of you've got a push through, and eventually things will be okay and you continue doing things in memory of that person. I say, because of this, I'm going to remember Oshinoco quite fondly and look forward to when the anime finishes. And I specially can't wait for the other Oshi no ko Projects to come out like the upcoming Liveaction adaptation and even the alternate reality story.