4-in-1 escs typically have a built in 5v bec for powering a flight controller, you might be able to replace the rx battery with a second servo plug coming off the esc.
It's hard to change the direction of the axis of an rotating mass (gyroscopic effect), in this boomerang design, the motors rotational axis are changed when the boomerang it's self rotates, so the boomerang is continuously fighting against the gyroscopic effect. So maybe that's why the small one didn't work and it took so much motor power to make it work
You can pull power from the balance lead of the 4-cell lipo for the receiver eliminating the other battery. We used to do that with our FPV drones before the video transmitters were high voltage. It works great. You pull from the connector where 6v comes out for the receiver.
If you put a bearing in the center with a tube and attached a second one on the "bottom" going the opposite way, you might be able to make it hover. And if you slow down the top or bottom motors, it might make it turn left or right. Basically a way over complicated drone "boomerang" but would be cool to see 😁
Hmm very interesting, but sounds pretty plausible to me. And yeah he'd be able to control it then. Idk how the programming and tuning will go though 😅😅
The FS-i6 will bind to any flysky receiver which uses AFHDS or AFHDS 2A there is a setting in the menu to switch between the two. I have also bound mine to some HobbyKing recievers.
4:50 PA: That’s a Flysky FS-i6, don’t cheap out. I am not surprised it doesn’t work… Just get an actually good transmitter, basically anything that runs EdgeTX is ok. I recommend the Radiomaster Boxer, or the TX16S. Also, ELRS for the transmitter and receiver. With Radiomaster, they have an option for a built-in ELRS transmitter. Edit: The FS-i6 is literally the cheapest radio on getfpv right now. For just 11$ more you could’ve gotten a Radiomaster Pocket which is IMHO the waaaay better deal.
Absolutely do this! The mixing and configurabiltiy of edgetx would probably also be helpful with some of these projects. Switching protocols can be annoying, but with elrs you won't have these dropout anymore.
The reason that he can't bind them is because they use different communication protocols, not because Flysky is cheap. There's nothing wrong with the TX.
Try moving the motors from the wing tips towards the center of the boomerang. In that way the wing tips can have a higher speed, more lift and its get easier to throw. Ha det bra. =)
I had the same thoughts as well as make the wings longer. The motors being near the center will turn the boomerang and the longer wings will act more like a helicopter rotor.
Really liked this video. It feels better than some of the last ones for some reason!? I always like them all, but this one feels a tiny bit more special
Nice! Does your setup allow you to reverse the motors? Maybe just before trying to catch it, a quick reversal might make it easier. Also, if it's about to hit something, maybe there would be less damage if it wasn't spinning as much.
Simon, I also had a problem with my DX6i going full throttle even when I recalibrated the sticks. I upgraded a X9D plus to hall gimbals and used the old gimbals in my DX6i. Worked like a charm and now I have a spare controller.
Maybe u can try to extend the wing surfaces behind the motors. And put the motors a little bit more to the middle. It should make it way more efficient and u can even throw it.
Great Video! Some possible ideas for future revisions; - Design it as a 2 part Sandwich to "internalize' wiring and components - Split the battery load onto the 3 arms evenly (ie 3 battery packs) - Modify the wing design to include the pitch angle for more consistent/uniform pitch angles Not sure how feasible, but if you cold program the motors individually you could potentially have full maneuverability and fly it like a "normal" drone
I'm an FPV pilot and RC aircraft maker since +5 years. Never seen a guy with the balls to launch a prototype that rotate multiple times every seconds from a stick, 50cm from its face. You could just have no more jaw in half a sec lmao.
i think the best way to understand what harm can be done by technology is to have access to it. for instance, trying to build things often harms my ego. but seriously, well put at the end there man
they make a very small voltage regulator to keep from needing the two separate batteries on RC devices regarding the receiver and motor that would possibly help with the weight. I am from the US but the person i seen use it is Kevin Talbot from the UK on RUclips, he has a lot of good information if you continue developing this he may be a good point of contact.
We have the same expression in Norwegian -> klockrent = klokkeklart. I’d suggest the translation "clear as a bell", insinuating it is flawless or of high quality. This was an awesome project, as usual! ✨
Bro this is pretty awesome.look at the first version and now the last version! Continue to critique this idea you might actually have something here! I would like to see a final version that you can throw and will actually come back while controlling with a transmitter. That would be freaking epic. Good luck and thanks.
Dude this was an awesome project and worked really well! Glad to see you getting to a win without a ton of headache lmao. Always love whenever you post!!
Well done on the catch near the end. I live in Australia and I can say there’s heaps of good sports boomerangs you can buy. The are heaps of fun to get your head around. You can throw them so far and so high, with the right wind. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️☮️☮️
Actually EPIC. As someone when i lived in Australia got to have authentic ones made an taught how to use them its really an art/science. Keep enjoying yourself cause i will keep watching :)
But authentic boomerangs weren't meant to come back, they were hunting weapons. Not having any knowledge of aerofoils, or the tools to check perfect balance, aboriginals would use trial and error to make ones that flew in a relatively straight and predictable manner. A returning boomerang would be a novelty and fun, but useless as a weapon.
the thing with a boomerang is that it was trailing edge stall (like a helicopter's rotors).. where one side is travelling slower than the other cause its going in the opposite direction the boomerang is travelling.. thats what makes a boomerang tilt to one side... The challenge is finding a way to control the motor speed when its either exactly on the leading edge or the trailing edge... that would give you tilt (and hopefully directional) control
You can't bind your Spectrum to your Flysky, because they use different communication protocols. All manufacturers use different protocols. The only exception is Flysky, Turnigy and Hobby King - they use AFHDS and they can be interchanged.
4:45 You can fix the Full Throttle problem. This was a common issue on those. The reason is that the throttle potentiometer comes loose and moves around.
You should try using a flywheel with a brake to power it. That way you can throw it and use the brake of the flywheel to control its rotation as it loses momentum. Plus you can spin it up before throwing it and save weight and complexity on the boomerang. The brake could be as simple as a servo horn rubbing the flywheel
You could do it with 1 single big motor in the middle spinning a disc, the torque of the motor would make it spin and the disc would help with stability.
Sweet project! I wonder if it can be controlled. Perhaps a servo controlling an aileron to tilt it at the correct rotation angle intervals during flight. Love the spinning transition BTW 👍
Nice one. I would try with longer arms (wings), but the motors closer to the center of the wings (eg. mid-mount). That way the tip speed of the wings will be more than the speed at which the motors will travel.
I couldn't tell how fast it was going, but it'd be awesome if you could add some control authority to this by calculating the heading of the boomerang and increased the speed of the motors in proportion to which direction they're facing so that you can control it :)
you probably should just use any radio with ELRS, really simple and great range. pretty much all drones use it now days. I do still use my DX6 though, it's great in its own way
I dare you to put 4 of these boomerangs on a large drone frame, but implement servos that allow you to control the tilt of the motors on each boomerang wing.
Can you try putting one motor in the middle of the drone and spin the arms around it. Like a three rotor helicopter, but without tiltable blades? Could also try using gyroscopes to tilt it for controls.
I thought about making something like this but with two blades and also a servo that moves the battery slightly in order to change the center of rotation which would alter the flight path. The other way to control it would be to have one motor counter rotating from the other and use torque to alter the flight path. It would also be cool but even more difficult to have the motors pulse with more power toward the forward direction on each half of the boomerangs spin propelling it forward.
I see you couldn't get the wires inside the wings? Did you try sucking some thread with a tiny bit of foam on it through? With the vacuum cleaner... That make sense?
when you angled the arms you pointed the motors slightly upwards. now you get more lift drom the wings but they have to fight the motors pushing downwards. maybe try an angled motormount (like 20-30deg) so wings and motors push upwards
What about when printing the boomerang with the hollow channels, you incorporate a pause in the printing, then lay in the wires and then let the print continue and coverup the wires with filament?
You probably can't bind your new transmitter to the receiver because they may have different firmware versions. Just a heads up, in case you wanted to use it at some point.
now make the "wings" adjustable in pitch so you can control their lift. you may have to make them longer and use a different wing profile and you'll get a controllable rotating drone if you program the controls right xD
The final product feels like something that would’ve been a dangerous recalled kids toy in the early 2000s
More like the 1960s but I don't think that motor and battery tech was good enough for that.
A boomerang that never comes back is just a stick
but this is a very well engineered stick
Nah, it's a boomerang thrown by me.
A boomerang that never comes back has many names: stick, Dad, gone, sanity, social skills, the list goes on
😂😂😂
Actually I have a stick when thrown it always come back die to my dog
Heck yea more spinny drones! This one is extra terrifying lol
I love yours.
was about to tell him about yours
Artur Pekosz also made a monocopter
your's better
About time you get your checkmark from YT.
4-in-1 escs typically have a built in 5v bec for powering a flight controller, you might be able to replace the rx battery with a second servo plug coming off the esc.
maybe it fried too
do they?allmost all of my escs feed vbat to the the bec of the FC...
the slow camera sliding in some of these shots is 🔥 adds a lot of depth. great video!
It's hard to change the direction of the axis of an rotating mass (gyroscopic effect), in this boomerang design, the motors rotational axis are changed when the boomerang it's self rotates, so the boomerang is continuously fighting against the gyroscopic effect. So maybe that's why the small one didn't work and it took so much motor power to make it work
You can pull power from the balance lead of the 4-cell lipo for the receiver eliminating the other battery. We used to do that with our FPV drones before the video transmitters were high voltage. It works great. You pull from the connector where 6v comes out for the receiver.
If you put a bearing in the center with a tube and attached a second one on the "bottom" going the opposite way, you might be able to make it hover. And if you slow down the top or bottom motors, it might make it turn left or right. Basically a way over complicated drone "boomerang" but would be cool to see 😁
Hmm very interesting, but sounds pretty plausible to me. And yeah he'd be able to control it then. Idk how the programming and tuning will go though 😅😅
The FS-i6 will bind to any flysky receiver which uses AFHDS or AFHDS 2A there is a setting in the menu to switch between the two. I have also bound mine to some HobbyKing recievers.
Two things this video has taught me, the countryside in Sweden is beautiful and that making my own RC flying Gamera is no longer just a dream
gamera is really neat! he is filled with turtle meat! we've been eating gaaameeeeraaaaaaa
When did that happen? In the not too distant future? Next Sunday A.D.? Were Joe or Mike there?@@herzogsbuick
@@simplesimon4561 :-D :-D :-D episode 312 baby!!
@@herzogsbuick * High Five *
Your channel is just evolving into actual chaos and im all for it 😂
Awesome video as always! BTW, Google translated "Så jälva klockrent" to "so danm clean"... I get the point!!! Keep it going! 😁
It would have been so wonderful if google returned “Clean as a clock!” 😂
I'm glad someone finally stepped up to the plate to make the electric boomerang we've always needed.
Of course a flysky controller won’t bind with a spectrum receiver. They are completely different protocols
And a very clear indication of his being super cheap.
You're a different protocol.
@@thatguycarlosI don’t understand why he can’t just use elrs, it’s cheaper than spektrum and it’s WAYYY better range
@@aqua_sakura5021hell yeah! elrs is the future
Of course, I think we were all thinking this. Amiright fellas?
LOVE the way you think and wish we were neighbors.
4:50 PA: That’s a Flysky FS-i6, don’t cheap out. I am not surprised it doesn’t work… Just get an actually good transmitter, basically anything that runs EdgeTX is ok. I recommend the Radiomaster Boxer, or the TX16S. Also, ELRS for the transmitter and receiver. With Radiomaster, they have an option for a built-in ELRS transmitter.
Edit: The FS-i6 is literally the cheapest radio on getfpv right now. For just 11$ more you could’ve gotten a Radiomaster Pocket which is IMHO the waaaay better deal.
dude is stuck in 2003 drone tech. doesn't know what a BEC is either, it's wild.
The price différence for these thing in Europe are quite different.
Absolutely do this! The mixing and configurabiltiy of edgetx would probably also be helpful with some of these projects. Switching protocols can be annoying, but with elrs you won't have these dropout anymore.
The reason that he can't bind them is because they use different communication protocols, not because Flysky is cheap. There's nothing wrong with the TX.
What a catch ! Great project, well done !
Try moving the motors from the wing tips towards the center of the boomerang. In that way the wing tips can have a higher speed, more lift and its get easier to throw. Ha det bra. =)
I had the same thoughts as well as make the wings longer. The motors being near the center will turn the boomerang and the longer wings will act more like a helicopter rotor.
@@xxmortikaixx4975 Great minds think alike. 🥰
Really liked this video. It feels better than some of the last ones for some reason!? I always like them all, but this one feels a tiny bit more special
Love it, never felt more suspense or more fear about boomerang. Fortunately cool heads prevailed and no one lost their head
This is the most terrifying drone I've ever seen. Awesome!
He built my dad?
Your dad is a boomerang?
@@sombody578his dad never came back
@@88conway88 oh
It’s not getting milk either
You threw your dad?
Nice! Does your setup allow you to reverse the motors? Maybe just before trying to catch it, a quick reversal might make it easier. Also, if it's about to hit something, maybe there would be less damage if it wasn't spinning as much.
The moving camera during the building timelapse was realllyyy gooddd.
Plenty of free flight model helicopters back in the day worked like that. Love the energy, well done.
I guess the boomerang doesn’t come back just like my dad… huh….
Simon, I also had a problem with my DX6i going full throttle even when I recalibrated the sticks. I upgraded a X9D plus to hall gimbals and used the old gimbals in my DX6i. Worked like a charm and now I have a spare controller.
dude's a professional in making things that could absolutely kill a guy. Love it
Boomerang are for hunting and killing so he got it right then
Maybe u can try to extend the wing surfaces behind the motors. And put the motors a little bit more to the middle. It should make it way more efficient and u can even throw it.
amazing success
Christmas Santa wishlist:
1) A RC controller without a random stuck trottle
2) A bigger field.
“ I think I have all the information I need” hilarious.
As an Australian I feel compelled to culturally enlighten you all. You know what you call a boomerang that won't come back, right? A stick.
I cant think of boomerangs without thinking of the scene in Mad Max 2...this thing seems just as terrifying lol
sick fpv!!! SICK FPV!!!
that thing sounds crazy
That turned out awesome
Great Video!
Some possible ideas for future revisions;
- Design it as a 2 part Sandwich to "internalize' wiring and components
- Split the battery load onto the 3 arms evenly (ie 3 battery packs)
- Modify the wing design to include the pitch angle for more consistent/uniform pitch angles
Not sure how feasible, but if you cold program the motors individually you could potentially have full maneuverability and fly it like a "normal" drone
I'm an FPV pilot and RC aircraft maker since +5 years. Never seen a guy with the balls to launch a prototype that rotate multiple times every seconds from a stick, 50cm from its face.
You could just have no more jaw in half a sec lmao.
Look up the nitro version from the 1960's
I think it was from the company Cox.
Love your camera skills and transition and missing drone helicopter sound 😂🎉
i think the best way to understand what harm can be done by technology is to have access to it. for instance, trying to build things often harms my ego. but seriously, well put at the end there man
they make a very small voltage regulator to keep from needing the two separate batteries on RC devices regarding the receiver and motor that would possibly help with the weight. I am from the US but the person i seen use it is Kevin Talbot from the UK on RUclips, he has a lot of good information if you continue developing this he may be a good point of contact.
I love when you post bro!!! Keep it going.
We have the same expression in Norwegian -> klockrent = klokkeklart.
I’d suggest the translation "clear as a bell", insinuating it is flawless or of high quality.
This was an awesome project, as usual! ✨
Came to the comments for the translation, thank you!
I really like the type of humor in this channel :)
I will come back like your boomerang and watch more of your videos!
Bro this is pretty awesome.look at the first version and now the last version! Continue to critique this idea you might actually have something here! I would like to see a final version that you can throw and will actually come back while controlling with a transmitter. That would be freaking epic. Good luck and thanks.
There are DC-DC converters you can use to power the receiver instead of using a separate 3S battery. Much lighter.
Dude this was an awesome project and worked really well! Glad to see you getting to a win without a ton of headache lmao. Always love whenever you post!!
Probably the coolest thing you've made yet!
Well done on the catch near the end.
I live in Australia and I can say there’s heaps of good sports boomerangs you can buy. The are heaps of fun to get your head around. You can throw them so far and so high, with the right wind.
🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀☮️☮️☮️
freaking incredible, you're so smart man, well done. Wanna see more these, let's work
Nice now I need a propeller driven propeller
it's rediculous that you really managed to catch that boomerang after two turns XD
I absolutely love hearing you speak Swedish when testing!
Actually EPIC. As someone when i lived in Australia got to have authentic ones made an taught how to use them its really an art/science. Keep enjoying yourself cause i will keep watching :)
But authentic boomerangs weren't meant to come back, they were hunting weapons. Not having any knowledge of aerofoils, or the tools to check perfect balance, aboriginals would use trial and error to make ones that flew in a relatively straight and predictable manner. A returning boomerang would be a novelty and fun, but useless as a weapon.
should get a radiomaster tx16s, cant fault mine. touch screen makes life real easy
Please, give this man a medal 🏅🏅🏅
The returns on this video must be great!
the thing with a boomerang is that it was trailing edge stall (like a helicopter's rotors).. where one side is travelling slower than the other cause its going in the opposite direction the boomerang is travelling.. thats what makes a boomerang tilt to one side... The challenge is finding a way to control the motor speed when its either exactly on the leading edge or the trailing edge... that would give you tilt (and hopefully directional) control
You can't bind your Spectrum to your Flysky, because they use different communication protocols. All manufacturers use different protocols.
The only exception is Flysky, Turnigy and Hobby King - they use AFHDS and they can be interchanged.
The sound it makes love it
Imagine that with lights 4x the size middle of the night all the ufo reports you would cause....
4:45 You can fix the Full Throttle problem. This was a common issue on those. The reason is that the throttle potentiometer comes loose and moves around.
Everyone's talking about the receiver and not the fact that he made an awesome device that I thought would kill him by the end of it, lol!
That ain't a boomerang that's a flying beyblade
This is a proper Simon Stålenhag level creation!
"A Boomerang That Never Comes Back" - so you invented a stick. Good job, tree!
make it with one wing and one motor and a central mass (batterie/electronics)
You should try using a flywheel with a brake to power it. That way you can throw it and use the brake of the flywheel to control its rotation as it loses momentum. Plus you can spin it up before throwing it and save weight and complexity on the boomerang. The brake could be as simple as a servo horn rubbing the flywheel
You could do it with 1 single big motor in the middle spinning a disc, the torque of the motor would make it spin and the disc would help with stability.
Sweet project! I wonder if it can be controlled. Perhaps a servo controlling an aileron to tilt it at the correct rotation angle intervals during flight. Love the spinning transition BTW 👍
Excellent work. Great video as always❤
Neighbor kid: "Can you come outside and play"
RCLifeOn: "Sorry I cant I have to charge my boomerang..."
That was awesome. Made me think, I bet a dual rotor head boomerang would work better than props on boomerang. Like a dual rotor head helicopter.
Congratulations on the Dishwasher!
Nice one. I would try with longer arms (wings), but the motors closer to the center of the wings (eg. mid-mount). That way the tip speed of the wings will be more than the speed at which the motors will travel.
This is such a cool concept, id love to see a V2 with more controls added!
Check out another Swede: "amazing diy projects" only he makes it full size !
I couldn't tell how fast it was going, but it'd be awesome if you could add some control authority to this by calculating the heading of the boomerang and increased the speed of the motors in proportion to which direction they're facing so that you can control it :)
Weight above or below actually makes no difference to an airframe. That's the pendulum myth. Really common misconception in physics.
you probably should just use any radio with ELRS, really simple and great range. pretty much all drones use it now days. I do still use my DX6 though, it's great in its own way
I dare you to put 4 of these boomerangs on a large drone frame, but implement servos that allow you to control the tilt of the motors on each boomerang wing.
Can you try putting one motor in the middle of the drone and spin the arms around it. Like a three rotor helicopter, but without tiltable blades?
Could also try using gyroscopes to tilt it for controls.
I love watching this channel grow. 77,000 views in 10 hours. Crazy
I thought about making something like this but with two blades and also a servo that moves the battery slightly in order to change the center of rotation which would alter the flight path. The other way to control it would be to have one motor counter rotating from the other and use torque to alter the flight path. It would also be cool but even more difficult to have the motors pulse with more power toward the forward direction on each half of the boomerangs spin propelling it forward.
Great to see you back miss seeing youre videos always inspirating ideas
I see you couldn't get the wires inside the wings?
Did you try sucking some thread with a tiny bit of foam on it through? With the vacuum cleaner...
That make sense?
Nice video as always Simon :)
It's also pretty cool that it really came back!
That was so fun to watch!
What if the boomerang was a little thicker and still hollow? Could the battery and motor be place within the boomerang?
Reminds me of Nicholas Rehm‘s spinning drone. Fun project!❤
when you angled the arms you pointed the motors slightly upwards. now you get more lift drom the wings but they have to fight the motors pushing downwards.
maybe try an angled motormount (like 20-30deg) so wings and motors push upwards
I had an RC boomerang about 15 years ago when i was a kid. And it had 6 axis of flight if i remember correctly
That's awesome! If you build a micro one it would have a tighter turn wouldnt it? I don't know, I'm genuinely asking.
Looks great i love the blue props
What about when printing the boomerang with the hollow channels, you incorporate a pause in the printing, then lay in the wires and then let the print continue and coverup the wires with filament?
8:34 Holly, that's a nice transition
You probably can't bind your new transmitter to the receiver because they may have different firmware versions. Just a heads up, in case you wanted to use it at some point.
Pretty awesome. Scary AF - but awesome.
This channel is amazing 👏 😂😊
now make the "wings" adjustable in pitch so you can control their lift. you may have to make them longer and use a different wing profile and you'll get a controllable rotating drone if you program the controls right xD
I am stunned that that worked