This is actually a really solid starting point, honestly really easy to recommend buying Kontakt 7 over a lot of budget libraries that can run in Player. Because then you get all of this, but also all of the free libraries that can run in the full version of Kontakt.
Great composition. Instead of setting the dynamics in a certain spot, it helps to use the mod wheel to vary dynamics as you play and give each part more life.
Thanks for the video. It’s been really hard finding a video on orchestral staff in K14. Nice enough to make basic things. I would have loved to see a detailed explanation of each section, by the way.
The good news is I am totally sold on this! The bad news is I just tried to download the free Kontakt 7 player and it downloaded but I can't get it to work. Nor can I download East Asia which I just bought. While other (and much smaller) companies can provide products easy to download native Instruments can't seem to now be able to do that. What gives?
Kontakt 7 is really good now for a beginner, since you get a usable orchestral library straight out of the box. The old factory library was showing its age. No true legato's and not many articulations, but good enough to start out with. Has the essentials a beginner will use. And individual sections, many beginner libraries only have ensemble patches.
I make 90s underground hip hop but for some reason I’m also drawn to cinematic music too this instrumental sounds great NI stepped things up with this update
Just found your channel today. I love your tone and how you explain stuff. Not too tech, not to patronizing. Looking forward to more content from you. Thanks and subscribed 👍
Hi .,is there a way to do aftertouch with all those instruments? I don't see any settings for it at the top left (that little wrench ). I miss the aftrtouch😢 for the violins.
Yea, I love the symphony series. I wouldn’t say a difference in quality, but more a difference in color/sound. The symphony series doesn’t have solo instruments either. They play/sound well together as well.
Wow, those sound really nice. Surprised to see that there is a legato function too. Probably it's scripted legato but still seems very playable. I think in orchestral music instead of verse and chorus you often just call it an A and B section.
Do you have any videos on how to use certain features of Fabfilter? I purchased the software a week ago. 😀 I know the majority of the basics, but I would love to learn more. 😀
Hi Phil, what software are you using to compose? That was a beautiful composition. Is it Studio One or something else? I got Kontakt 7 but want to use it together with a good composition software.
Beautiful track!. I just got kontakt 7 but i have an issue with the B and C mid range violin sample, this is really dissapointing because is one of the instruments that i use the most. I hope they fix this soon
I think they're called 'phrases', but that might have a more technical meaning, I don't know. Anyway, just searching for videos demo'ing Orchestral Tools in Kontakt to see if it's worth getting. Thanks for the video.
I just took home the Kontakt Factory Selection 2, and couldn’t find this Orchestra Library…?!…have i misunderstood something…? Or is this stock with the paid version of Kontakt 7?
Sounds good for a STOCK library, but if you want to do serious stuff you should definitely go for the whole cinestrings / cineharps / cinebrass collection. These libraries sound out of the box REALISTIC and I miss that feeling a little with the orchestral lib on Kontakt 7. I picked them up at their last offer on NI. Wouldn't recommend to pay the regular price (event though it is worth it), because they go on sale regularly. I heard many people say, that they haven't used different libraries in years.
@@producerhat CineSymphony is great but very expensive (Complete costs around the same amount as the full Berlin Series set, including optionals.) There's better options these days, like Cinematic Studio Series. Hell, even Berlin itself is one.
@@NebulonRanger I actually have the CSS - for some reason, I don’t use it much. I gravitate to my Orchestral Tools Inspire libraries the most. I need to crack CSS open again and remind myself how it sounds :)
@@producerhat Have you updated to 1.7 yet? Alex put that update out at the end of August, giving the library a roomier mix and improving the overall sound quality. He also split the close mics up.
Just paid upgrade from player to full and have been through 3 days of hell. Should have been so simple. No customer support from these guys, either. Should have stuck with the free. Cheers
@@producerhat Thank you for the reply. Never did hear from NI but got great help through the forum. The solution was to delete 3 seemingly random files in 3 different locations - and then everything was magically fixed. I would have never figured this out and I still have no idea how this fixed it, but it did. The forum has been great. Thanks again
Ya it sou ds good but what about the content ... WHY SO LESS.... NO ENSAMBLES .... DEDICATED TO A SINGLE INSTRUMENT OR THE COMBINATION... Seriously this was disappointing 😞. When u had seen in the Teasers that ORCHESTRAL TOOLS are making the orchestral section.... I was toooo exited and had high hopes ....
I did quickly demo each instrument lol. Why would I dedicate a video to a single instrument? What production uses one instrument. Remember, this is a music production/songwriting channel :) thanks for the comment Md
@@producerhat Hey Buddy I was blaming Native Instruments.... 😄 NOT YOU ... Your Video is AMAZING MAN .. I GAVE A THUMS UP TOO. What do you they shouldn't have they worked on the orchestral library.... ???
For those who use 4K monitors, KONTAKT-7 is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER. Darker than before, less readable than before. Still not scalable with super ancient raster technology, completely outdated and not suited for modern video cards and monitors. Interface looks like brought from Windows3.1 (or alike). While all software on the planet evolves, Native Instruments seem to be frozen in time. I tried to use all kind of tricks to be able to read the screen and still it seems like I need to use the Magnifying Glass. KONTAKT and KOMPLETE KONTROL is a total disaster. Whoever owns 4K monitor needs to go back in time and DOWNGRADE to 1024 px in order to read the screen clearly. When it comes to certain plugins running inside Kontakt-7 it becomes even worse because the greatest plugins (.i.e. from Spitfire) are completely unreadable and so super tiny that one needs a microscope to read it. Also endless problems with built in SQLite database make this product super obsolete and super hard to manage. People an NATIVE INSTRUMENTS really need to wake up from their dream of having plugins monopoly because sooner or later somebody will do what they resist to do.
interesting, maybe decrease your resolution and/or increase your refresh rate? I'm running a 4K monitor, 120 hz, 3360x1890 resolution and it's crystal clear. even when I run at full resolution it's crystal clear :)
I can't believe this is the STOCK sound library!
For stock samples, I think it is good enough👍but not thing surprise.
Thanks for the shout out and kind words. We're really glad that you're enjoying our orchestral stuff on Kontakt 7 🙏
Legit!!
Please fix the B and C mid range notes in the violin sample
@@gravidotrueno5786 this has been a problem for way too long 😭
Man I literally laughed when I heard the full thing.
It sounds so beautiful and these stock libraries are unbelievable!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this, great demo. Liked and subscribed. Thank you !
Thanks for the support! 👍🏽
This is actually a really solid starting point, honestly really easy to recommend buying Kontakt 7 over a lot of budget libraries that can run in Player. Because then you get all of this, but also all of the free libraries that can run in the full version of Kontakt.
💯 agree
I have K7 but not really used this section but I'll now give it a go. Thanks for you work.
Great composition. Instead of setting the dynamics in a certain spot, it helps to use the mod wheel to vary dynamics as you play and give each part more life.
That def would make it better. Thank you for the advice!
Super helpful video! So many videos so far have kind of skimmed over Kontakt 7 without diving in to the new factory sounds too deeply.
I agree! This video and my other Kontakt 7 video show me using the factory sounds. They’re DOPE!
My man! This is the video i was looking for.
At the end of the video, you were the conductor! You did it! You really did…my little conductor!
Haha. You’d be surprised how much I “feel” this genre of music. Chills every time.
This video is literally golden, just gained a sub♥
Glad to hear. Thanks Naomi!
Phil that was AMAZING 😮🫡✌️👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Thank you very much
Thanks for the video. It’s been really hard finding a video on orchestral staff in K14. Nice enough to make basic things. I would have loved to see a detailed explanation of each section, by the way.
Then we get to the drop 😁. That was a very good one. Awesome piece man. You're the only one who sold me on this update.
Just glad I could help! 🙌🏽
The trumpet actually sounded good!
Love the demo...! Great job.
Thanks!
What a lovely piece of music bro.
Thank you. I appreciate that!!
Very beautiful composition
I appreciate that, thank you :)
This is really nice. Really enjoyed it! Thank you for sharing your work.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you
That was incredible!!
Orchestral Tools is the best orchestral library on the market right now
I would agree!
Great demo, good production, funny stuff with the Hans Zimmer bit. Sold. Think I'm gonna go ahead and splurge for the update.
Go for it! I highly doubt you will be disappointed :) Glad you liked my chat with Hans HAHA
Well done! And showing a lot of new Kontakt. So useful too
Thanks!
Now Kontakt is actually worth it for the stock sounds.
I would agree
Gorgeous in one word!
Thank you!!
It’s just inspired me to go back to logic and look at the orchestral instruments included. I discovered a lot
You definitely should. Logic is amazing for stock sounds. Just open up Alchemy.
@@producerhat I’m liking the morph feature in Alchemy
I'm actually huge fans of your work
I truly appreciate that, thank you
The good news is I am totally sold on this!
The bad news is I just tried to download the free Kontakt 7 player and it downloaded but I can't get it to work.
Nor can I download East Asia which I just bought.
While other (and much smaller) companies can provide products easy to download native Instruments can't seem to now be able to do that.
What gives?
Kontakt 7 is really good now for a beginner, since you get a usable orchestral library straight out of the box. The old factory library was showing its age.
No true legato's and not many articulations, but good enough to start out with. Has the essentials a beginner will use. And individual sections, many beginner libraries only have ensemble patches.
I 💯 agree Joachim
Thats nice! This has some good sounds!
Thanks!
Enjoyed this one!
Thank you 😎
I make 90s underground hip hop but for some reason I’m also drawn to cinematic music too this instrumental sounds great NI stepped things up with this update
dope! and I would agree - I was pleasantly surprised with this library!
Nicely done.
Thanks Mr Bond! ;)
Just found your channel today. I love your tone and how you explain stuff. Not too tech, not to patronizing. Looking forward to more content from you. Thanks and subscribed 👍
I really appreciate that Karl! That’s exactly what I want with this channel!
Insane. Let's go!
😎😎😎
@@producerhat 🙏🏾
hello! love this video and your guidance! does KONTAKT 7 work well with garageband?
works just fine :)
Hi .,is there a way to do aftertouch with all those instruments? I don't see any settings for it at the top left (that little wrench ). I miss the aftrtouch😢 for the violins.
I believe theyre working that all into it. Updating the instruments.
Can you share the chord progression please? It's really beautiful.
Of course.
First two passages: F - Bb/F - C/F - F - Dm7 - Gm - Csus4
Third passage: Dm7 - Gm - C/E - F - Bb - C - Dm
Hey thanks for the demo, amazing! Do you ever use the symphony series instruments? Is there a big difference in quality?
Yea, I love the symphony series. I wouldn’t say a difference in quality, but more a difference in color/sound. The symphony series doesn’t have solo instruments either. They play/sound well together as well.
@@producerhat that's great, thank you so much for you response!
Very nice.
Thanks!
Wow, those sound really nice. Surprised to see that there is a legato function too. Probably it's scripted legato but still seems very playable. I think in orchestral music instead of verse and chorus you often just call it an A and B section.
Thank you! Been waiting for someone to answer that question lol!
@@producerhat No problem hehe
Do you have any videos on how to use certain features of Fabfilter? I purchased the software a week ago. 😀 I know the majority of the basics, but I would love to learn more. 😀
No sorry :/ nothing yet
Unfortunately, Kontakt7 has also removed quite a bit of stock items also. VSL Instruments.
Hmm. I honestly really only use it for the instruments/plugins. I hadn’t noticed :/
Great job Phil!
You have found your passion and that’s inspiring!
BTW Pixar called while you were out😀
😂 how dope would that be!?
Hi Phil, what software are you using to compose? That was a beautiful composition. Is it Studio One or something else? I got Kontakt 7 but want to use it together with a good composition software.
Hey there Randy! I use Logic Pro but really the DAW doesn’t matter too much, just that you’re using a professional DAW :)
It's crazy how high quality everything is. Just wish I could actually play piano to control it. I only play guitar =\
I definitely feel like I have an advantage playing piano BUT if you have an "ear" for the music then you can just use MIDI
Beautiful track!. I just got kontakt 7 but i have an issue with the B and C mid range violin sample, this is really dissapointing because is one of the instruments that i use the most. I hope they fix this soon
I never noticed it :/
I think they're called 'phrases', but that might have a more technical meaning, I don't know.
Anyway, just searching for videos demo'ing Orchestral Tools in Kontakt to see if it's worth getting. Thanks for the video.
My pleasure and thank you! Phrases sounds right
I just took home the Kontakt Factory Selection 2, and couldn’t find this Orchestra Library…?!…have i misunderstood something…?
Or is this stock with the paid version of Kontakt 7?
paid version for sure
Is this part of the komplete 14 collector's edition?
Sure is. Hit the link in the description to go grab the collectors edition 🙌🏽
@@producerhat thanks. Cool! I was wondering, I just got the collectors edition brotha!c
Yeah...I'm thinking it might be time to upgrade my version of Kontakt . :O
Nice! 🙌🏽
Sounds good for a STOCK library, but if you want to do serious stuff you should definitely go for the whole cinestrings / cineharps / cinebrass collection. These libraries sound out of the box REALISTIC and I miss that feeling a little with the orchestral lib on Kontakt 7. I picked them up at their last offer on NI. Wouldn't recommend to pay the regular price (event though it is worth it), because they go on sale regularly. I heard many people say, that they haven't used different libraries in years.
Great advice - I’ll send have to check them out!
@@producerhat CineSymphony is great but very expensive (Complete costs around the same amount as the full Berlin Series set, including optionals.) There's better options these days, like Cinematic Studio Series. Hell, even Berlin itself is one.
@@NebulonRanger I actually have the CSS - for some reason, I don’t use it much. I gravitate to my Orchestral Tools Inspire libraries the most. I need to crack CSS open again and remind myself how it sounds :)
@@producerhat Have you updated to 1.7 yet? Alex put that update out at the end of August, giving the library a roomier mix and improving the overall sound quality. He also split the close mics up.
It’s OK.
👍🏽
Have you ever heard a classical concert...?
I have not
His favorite instrument is the viola????😂
Lol yes, in this orchestral library
The piece melody is great❤
However, except the Vibraphone, all other samples sound real fake😭
I would disagree but I do appreciate the feedback!
Just paid upgrade from player to full and have been through 3 days of hell. Should have been so simple. No customer support from these guys, either. Should have stuck with the free. Cheers
Dang! I had no issues and have always had pretty good support from NI the few times I needed it.
@@producerhat Thank you for the reply. Never did hear from NI but got great help through the forum. The solution was to delete 3 seemingly random files in 3 different locations - and then everything was magically fixed. I would have never figured this out and I still have no idea how this fixed it, but it did. The forum has been great. Thanks again
Really nice track. If it existed (outside of the library in the Dreaming), this would fit well in Forrest Gump 2, or some film like that.
Oh heck yea!!!! Thank you :)
this is the music version of joe rogan HAHA xD
😂 I get that a lot actually lol
I hope Disney call you about your soundtrack, imagine that with a real orchestra ... epic!!!
I would drop everything and have a full song to them within a day!! Lol. Thanks Kit
Im not hearing anything ground breaking..
Ya it sou ds good but what about the content ...
WHY SO LESS....
NO ENSAMBLES .... DEDICATED TO A SINGLE INSTRUMENT OR THE COMBINATION...
Seriously this was disappointing 😞.
When u had seen in the Teasers that ORCHESTRAL TOOLS are making the orchestral section.... I was toooo exited and had high hopes ....
I did quickly demo each instrument lol. Why would I dedicate a video to a single instrument? What production uses one instrument. Remember, this is a music production/songwriting channel :) thanks for the comment Md
@@producerhat Hey Buddy I was blaming Native Instruments.... 😄
NOT YOU ... Your Video is AMAZING MAN ..
I GAVE A THUMS UP TOO.
What do you they shouldn't have they worked on the orchestral library.... ???
@@dezinerAhmad oh gotcha - I misinterpreted your comment.
For those who use 4K monitors, KONTAKT-7 is an ABSOLUTE DISASTER. Darker than before, less readable than before. Still not scalable with super ancient raster technology, completely outdated and not suited for modern video cards and monitors. Interface looks like brought from Windows3.1 (or alike). While all software on the planet evolves, Native Instruments seem to be frozen in time. I tried to use all kind of tricks to be able to read the screen and still it seems like I need to use the Magnifying Glass. KONTAKT and KOMPLETE KONTROL is a total disaster. Whoever owns 4K monitor needs to go back in time and DOWNGRADE to 1024 px in order to read the screen clearly. When it comes to certain plugins running inside Kontakt-7 it becomes even worse because the greatest plugins (.i.e. from Spitfire) are completely unreadable and so super tiny that one needs a microscope to read it. Also endless problems with built in SQLite database make this product super obsolete and super hard to manage.
People an NATIVE INSTRUMENTS really need to wake up from their dream of having plugins monopoly because sooner or later somebody will do what they resist to do.
interesting, maybe decrease your resolution and/or increase your refresh rate? I'm running a 4K monitor, 120 hz, 3360x1890 resolution and it's crystal clear. even when I run at full resolution it's crystal clear :)
This kind of production is outdated, sorry
Interesting thought! Hear this type quite often in movies still