Senzo Meyiwa murder trial | 03 June 2022
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- The murder trial of former Orlando Pirates and Bafana Bafana goalkeeper Senzo Meyiwa continues in the High Court in Pretoria .
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I need to see adv Mshololo and adv Teffo singing one song and stop attacking one another please
Adv Teffo is very very intelligent and smart, outsmarting everyone involved including the judge. We love you Adv Teffo, justice for Senzo is what we want.
Command of the English language is an impediment to him.He needs to work on it
teffo is not smart, teffo is emotional I don't know how did he obtained his qualifications....
he is very unprofessional....the way he conduct your questions
We’re behind him 100%
@@spark6581 His character is like that, he belongs to people born with stutterer not that he's emotional
I think i like the maturity and eloquency of the State in this matter.
Shame it's a pity I had to leave saps due to the corruption that was happening on these crime scenes and I refused to be part of it, those senior police who arrives first on crime scenes an lie and steal the exhibit so that your case has loophole after that happened to me I opened a case against that senior police officer who stole exhibit from a murder crime scene where a black man was shot 9x in front of his wife in Joe slovo milnerton and white detective commander col Else stole the only evidence which was a cellphone that fell out from one of the suspect's pocket and when I heard this on my arrival he refused I even threatened not to do the scene before he brings it and he told me straight you will do it of which iv done and left straight to the police station to open a case of theft and defeating the ends of justice against him and nothing was done to him I informed even my commander and provincial but nothing was done becos a black man has died . I could not live like that I resigned and left the corrupt police force
S.A. needs people like you. You refused to sell your soul for money.
High value ex cop
You're one in a million....how I wish Africa has security personnel like you ...
They called him to go to hospital and he went to police station before hospital and then scene ..when he arrive he don’t take gun residues or even finger prints at the door alleged to have been used and he take things from scene one by one visiting it two times 🤷🏾♂️and now he is her as witness ..this guy re tla fetsa re mo swara ka diatla by ourselves now.No!this can’t be under performing this is beyond
What’s shocking is that the prosecutor of this current case saw no need to take statement from Ndlovu and or even call him as a 1st witness until he’s even late 😳😳South Africa for you !this mosia knows everything together with his Ndlovu 🤞🏽
MOsia knws bt th bad part is tht he s now an ascape goat
@@manmadeworld3842 escape goat for whom?
Wait this Ndlovu person is no more? 💔😳😳
@@nomfundontshangase8124 lol he is dead with sudden small illness and is deemed natural coz
@@SonOfTheSoil834 holy Yaz I've been listening I'm like why this Ndlovu person is not the one talking, am like I can't wait to hear him on the stand yhoo ai this is a flop. Every important detail he seems to have been the one who told Mosia haw or this Mosia is lying 💔🙁🤷♀️
Ayyy Mshololo my advocate 😻
Judge is seems involved somewhere somehow and advocate Teffo knows
bra now im confused ngale case. body language kaTeffo tells me u might b on to something...
Why can't Mr Mosia just tell the court the truth because it's clear that he can't lie, even under the guidance of the judge!
He is also a victim here he was used by Brigadier Ndlovu mastermind
To my shock that people they can just purdger themselves and it is business as usual.... Because it is clear that Mosia is lying...
SAPS is being exposed
the smiles from Adv Mshololo😅 truly shows that she loves her job🥰 ohhh I love this woman😍😍
Lovely smile
She's pretty too
This judge looks like his captured
Definitely..and they all planned this around Mosia...and Mosia is sinking the ship[
The way I don’t trust is neh.
I feel like the whole thing is a circus, it’s like they are just conducting this for the sake of getting it out of the way without getting anybody from the house convicted
Yah nehh..I can also see 👀
Senzo Meyiwa deserves justice so he can finally rest in piece, it's been too long this is not normal
The judge is captured
How so?
1 case 2 defense, can be messy. I think this case is really making them to revisit the real laws and acts based on its intricacy.
Tefo is a real nemesis to this case. I love the ground he stands on and how he refuses to be broken on his conviction. Go boy, go!!!!!
More defence to come if judge agrees to a trial inside trial 🤦🏽♀️
Tefo knows what is talking about.
Is this copy certified by the commissioner of oath? Uncertified copy is not given credebility. They are bill and void.
They are nill and void
Advocate Mshololo and advocate Tefo are on the same level, but the judge who is the presiding officer is divisive of them and since Advocate Tefo came into being in as far as these proceedings are concerned the judge is disrespecful of Advocate Tefo. Advocate Tefo is on point now the judge wants him to say comfortable things.
Does the judge know Mr mosia so well to affirm that he is not well??? 😂
The credibility of this witness is very questionable honestly
Big time
Hewena! 😔
They discredited him a long time
You were right!!!!
Teffo is right he is defending his client
But am starting to doubt his litigation skills
correct
@@BENETJALI same here
guys l see where this is going ,they know Tefo is bring th truth and they dnt want to give him a well manored slot coz h has tht history aganist the police state .
They should excuse Mosia and start with other witnesses
I agree with you this court is dealing with HE SAY only, we need big fish to come in.
He is an important witness who took wrong information with the purpose of destroying this case. He should be charged for defeating the ends of justice.
I agree 👍 enough mosia we can move to another witness now
Advocate Teffo is all over the place, I agree but I still love his work. He has passion to protect his clients and he insists on it. We tend to accept things in our daily lives even if we know it's unethical or in the wrong. We should take a page out of his book. Just my opinion!
Tefo, the people are behind you…but your unprofessionalism is slowly making people doubt your credibility.
You seem too emotional, it raises questions on whether your arguments are based on facts or emotions…
But he is right! His 2 clients are held based off forced confessions and that is not lawful. Also this court case isn't held where it is supposed to be held. They shouldn't have continued nje. They must get the right people so the PROPER case can be dealt with.
Teffo should have raised all this in the beginning the issue of jurisdiction
Also for me he seems to be clueless of Criminal procedures
Lastly he wants to say something all the time as a result is appearing to be threatened by advocate Mshololo
If submission have been made by Mshololo of her instructing attorney, that attorney is part of the team whether physical or in absentia.
So they seem to be new in this game.
Lastly he is forcing the Judge to protect the jurisprudence because of his behavior.
With all he is doing he will destroy his case in defence
I doubt brigadier Ndlovu.I wish he could still be alive to explain all this mess he caused. He interfered with the investigation long before it started. How can he call Masia and not provide him with the address?Why did he interfere with forensic investigation?
Case e e tletse ka matswakabele! Boloi le bone bo teng!
Well done Mr Teffo my man,bet the state never anticipated that, Monday we shall hear n c another can't wait...this is getting more interesting
Advocate my advocate guys buy Advocate Mshololo. Please give this advocate do million for the flag
i hope he wont be in ICU by monday, may the Lord protect him
Im also starting to be worried about Mosia's health going forward
Advocate Teffo is not a moral attorney but an spirited one
Mr Mosia needs to tell the truth now.....his health is deteriorating live..... i'm getting worried he might not finish this trial
“If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen “ziyabuya it’s time to come clean before it’s tooooo late.
, 😂😂😂😂
Mosia o tlhomola pelo sehemat…yoh
Even the clothes they were wearing, they should have been taken for gun residue
Eish looks like our expert was in a hurry
The truth shall come out
South Africa is in big trouble if we have "expects" like Mr Mosia in this country, what a mess. Whooow I'm lost for words🙆♂️
"Experts"
Agreed, such a sloppy expert 😰🤷♀️
Mr Mosia made a mistake by also taking cool drink money with Ndlovu to protect the shooter. Now his job is on the line and maybe even orange overalls are waiting for him for defeating the ends. Eish. 🤔
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this comment is the realest and the dopest.... Charles my guy you nailed it....
Unnecessary
Not only his job..but life too. At the moment i think his sugar level is abnormal, insomia, and he will start to hallucinate
@@knowledgeqnsibande1528 🤣🤣😂😂
He should be arrested that one, he's not providing original evidence and all his answers are not straight. I agree the court hasn't provided enough evidence that he's involved in the killing of senzo, but everyone can see that the man is hiding some information. Soon or later the truth will be revealed 🤞🏿🙏🏿❤I hope all those who did this rot in jail.
After watching this BIASED judge ,I feel we the poor people are in trouble.
A Judge should not be emotional or or captured.
I hate this judge but sorry to say that uthengiwe lo🤞🏼
He is bought vele just like everyone who was handling this case.. South African justice system is rotten
I feel so too
The Zulu translator 😆 🤣 😂 😹 icing on the cake
Is it going to resume or we must wait for Monday?
It will resume Monday
@@lungilemhlahlo9387 Thanks
Judge is biased and captured 🙄
Mshololo doing the works 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Advocate Zandile Mshololo is too dangerous ask me from Nongoma magistrate court angikhathali
Mshololo is taking it step by step proving that the police did not do their job appropriately, like u can not go to a scene and expect to hear from someone else what happened instead of finding out from the people who were on the scene.
Advocate Mshololo you are the best
If your friend was in the math class in your absence, there is no need to ask the teacher, trust your friend! 😂🙈
the judge needs to put his personal feelings aside.
Procedure over emotions
For me he has been soft
You can't have an advocate that doesn't follow criminal procedure
He had enough time to raise issues boom when its Mshololo he Wants trial in a trial on something the state has not yet brought.
I have never seen this.
He puts a version to a wrong person who was there later to collect evidence, instead of discrediting the witness on testimony and evidence Mosia is bringing.
Now when we get the time to listen to the real court proceedings from Mshololos cross examination.
He is fighting.
The judge is taking sides
I thought am the only one seeing that yhaz
vele
No sir, Tefo acted unprofessional here he was supposed to at least raise these concerns before he started his cross examination but he didn't. He is being disrespectful to the other advocate. The judge here on point in terms of court procedures.
Kunjalo
I agree on trial over trial
This forensic expert 👌 must be demoted in this court 🙄 and go back to constable status...maybe to police College 🚔 🙄
First of all there’s something about this judge which I can’t seem to decipher at the moment. What if the whole thing is bogus?
This an experience judge, Teffo just throwing tantrums or just not being able to present his case in coherent way.
Procedure over emotions
@@ThamiNdlalane I’m not entirely excluding Teffo or speaking in favour of someone. What I’m seeing about the judge has absolutely nothing to do with the others.
@@zwoitwahotshidavhu1113 on procedures he’s on point I guess, I’m not in the law industry. But I can tell he’s definitely following all protocol.
I’m just saying that there’s something fishy about him excluding his professional conduct.
Where's Ndlovu's Phone?
PLEASE allow Our Learned Friend, Advocate Teffo, His Day in your court!
Wuuu the judge is captured 👎😶the questions he ask and not giving teffo enough to talk aolii
The judge hates Adv Teffo. What this man is saying is correct and important I don't know why this judge gets angry.
Our government doesn't want the truth come out .nothing else
I think its because of how he carries himself, his tone and comments. He even speaks while the judge is speaking ...
That what I observed, judge is not happy with adv Teffo's address and whenever he address court he becomes emotional 🤔it so weird
he seems to have also collected cold drink
Teffo is too emotional for this case.
We're 100% behind Tefo despite being emotional.
The Judge is not fair when he speak to adv Teffo he becomes emotional and angry. I wonder why since the beginning of this case.
Adv Teffo is stubborn 🤣🤣
I'm smelling a rat,that agressivenes comes from somewhere
I think adv. Teffo is behaving like this because he can see how this judge is treating him and now his giving him a I don't care attitude.
Teffo is defying the judge.
It's because Teffo is clueless when it comes to court procedure.
Adv Teffo is a seriiys pain to the judge, & i love it
😂😂😂😂
Mshololo is not supposed to be seemingly in competition with Teffo.Its very distateful.
Khwezi, i personally dont think shes competing with him. The only difference is that Teffo is showing emotions, sometimes do things tht the judge will respond in belittling him( like to just stand up n go out without excuse, coming late coz his robe is somewhere, complaining tht he didnt eat🤣). Tht is why even Mosia was so relaxed with him. While Adv Mshololo is such a smiling assassin n shes so calm n collected bt making Mosia quench for water, remember shes the one who is exposing Mosia now tht he knows more here with Ndlovu. They poisoned Ndlovu thinking Mosia wil make it here.
Mshololo is not competing with Teffo, the dude lacks court procedure, I don't want to mention court etiquette ai Bantu🚮 red flag. That's why they don't see eye to eye with the judge, the guy is clueless when it comes to procedure.😑
Ntate Mosia continue speaking sotho ngwaneso, you make better sense when you do
Please go straight to Dr from there and bring Sick note on Monday please with your pocket book documented correctly.
The more guilt you get the more you dnt understand English neh lol ei this witness is hilarious 😂
This lady is the female Gerrie Nel
Now ppl will ser dat Adv Teffo is not ryt person for the case. This lady is dangerous and smart.
Oh Yes she is...
@@waynemongwe8971 to dangerous nd very smart 👌
Mshololo is labouring it too much! She is like a broken record.
Teffo is being outshined by Mshololo
Ibe bern saying dat Adv Teffo has done nothing to give a court benefit of a doubt, adv Mshololo is doing axactly that to keep the court on their toes, she is focused and exposing loop holes nd putting to question about forensics competence in the field. I told ppl adv Teffo has done nothing to give court second thought, however adv Mshololo is giving the court a second thought in every question she throws out there, nd ppl are not giving adv Mshololo enough credit, she is way better than the guy, honestly i would prefer her to represent me over adv Teffo..
@@waynemongwe8971 I 100% agree with you, but I must also give credit where it's due to Teffo, one would argue that she is building up from the groundwork he's already done
@@gugublake911 You have stated the truth about Adv Teffo being ahead, therefore you can't be 100% agreeing to Wayne
It's no competition
Advocate Teffo is too emotional it's definitely harming this case and he is not aware that he may cause that harm
I agree he is too emotional and admitted that he is emotional.
Further disrespectful of the criminal procedure
You can say that again
Monday the guy will be extremely sick
Haaaa ngubani ongabuya futhi nami nje ngeke xhm ,ngabe ngifike ngokomnqondo , straight 😮😢
Case dismissed - accused were not charged and their rights read and explained to them.
Teffo needs to relax.
Teffo needs to keep his emotions in check and stop trying to defy the judge marn
I'd act the same way if I was Teffo this judge is too faced
To finish all the sports on who pulled the trigger,they must just ask all those in the house a chance to be questioned by Tefo and Musholoza,these two will crack them .
Thumbs up for Adv. Thefo and Adv. Mshololo 👍👍👍
This is not fair 🥺
What Teffo is now saying will also help Mshololo there is lot Teffo know and it seems ike Mshololo just came as defense counselor without having information Teffo is having about this case. Mshololo should hasmve supported Mr Teffo.
Ayy The Zulu Transalator🤣
Eyyy he is just a waste of time nje. Thina we are in a hurry to get to the bottom of this matter 🤣🤣🤣
I thought he's translating in Xhosa 😂😂😂
@@TheBlackDiamond09 and his translation is too long. Longer than the answer given by the witness🤣🤣
@@TheBlackDiamond09 I think he might be there for Senzo’s family. I was always wondering who he is there for. Who needs a Zulu interpreter?
Lol Teffo and the presiding officer always fight ,ei and Teffo is stubborn
Hahha thats why he is a lawyer haha
It is funny that the people who happen to be smart and affluent never volunteered to help the deceased with the murder case. Afriforum had to step in and assist. Scholars of the law must shut up, Tefo has made the proceedings very interesting with his low english vocabulary
I feel sorry for Mosia, he was the weakest link.
Ndlovu destroyed evidence ,they killed him now Mosia usenkingeni.
I wonder if he's even dead
Hawu u I've been looking forward to hear this Ndlovu person on the stand, naye akasekho uhhh terrible
The fact that Mr Mosia was on Incapacity leave and now he further says he is not well
I don't blame him...i would do the same.Tjooo the whole week he's been taken back and forth with same questions...he is definitely regretting the day he answered the call from Ndlovu to go to the scene
If the director of prosecutors can say the trial can be conducted anywhere..let it be held in Cape Town before Judge Desai
The problem with Adv Teffo is that he seems like he is not really aware of some of the court procedures. Some of the points he raises are not really supposed to be raised within a trial as there are channels in place for such... hei okare o tjatjarag byanong n he has valid points but odi bolela ka nako e wrong🤦♂️
I think this is a clear case of experience vs qualifications and that makes Tefo come across as unprofessional because he lacks experience. I hope his sloppiness doesn't cost him the case.
True Thabo he is very impulsive that one. It's really a weakness that he will be defeated upon.
This is not a normal case cause there are lot of discrepancies behind and it Look like Mr Teffo he is dealing with very decisive andexposed it. Mr Teffo has got a lot of background information partaining this case. What I see here vedict is already set in protection of the right suspects who are supposed to be there.
He is the male malema of the courts..he just doesn't care who says wht
Undermine Advocate Teffo at your own peril, this is always winning cases against the SAPS. His problem is that he's emotional and not an eloquent speaker
I believe I would want to hear from victims in the house regardless my colleague gave me the details.
Whats with these ads.....
The investigator in this case relied too much on the evidence from the so called witness who in turn look like the perpetrators of the crime thereby compromising all the evidence which could have nailed the suspect if he was one of the people in the house.
I feel for Adv. Teffo
This situation is definitely fu€ked up.
Zulu interpreter is delaying. He must speak frankly... uyathemeleza... kodwa yena ugcina eshayile emhlolweni
Mshololo,why is she against Mr Teffo?
She's not against him,his unprofessional and she's professional that's the difference
He's disturbing her cross examination and she did not disturb his.
He doesn't answer the question but explaining
I think adv teffo is rushing he need to slow down n be patient the time wil come for the right accused
His clients are in cells
Very true, if he is not aware he will mess it
The bench seems to be taking side..
Its not easy to be a state witness,
When you don't know your story . Mna that was my favorite part to testify as an expert...and i had confidence since I know I'm the expert that was on the scene and I'm carrying conclusive evidence.
I stress sodwa 🤣
I stress mawuqamba amanaga 🤣
Teffonizer
Hi. Lindiwe sisulu i am greatly supporting you the south African courts have eyes
These Guy messed up the case big time and it means he's useless at his own
True his collection of evidence is very floppy!
Jugde Maumela should be Investigated🤞🤞🤞...he seems to be afraid truth to come out
Who stops them from saying Mr Mosia is not well on Monday and day after...? 🤔
How long Kant itiye labo
This shosholo repeat her questions alot n its boring
That is why it is called cross -examination .
Than Teffo who was asking irrelevant questions? 🙄
Tefo is right u can't have two docket
Yes abut he was supposed to raise all those points when he was given an opportunity at first. He can't be interrupting Adv Mshololo during her time coz she did not to that when he was cross examining.
I wonder If the Wife of the deceased is not a suspect, such cases normally the wife would also be a suspect
The wife was waiting for the husband to attend a party and he was busy waiting to die at the house of inyatsi. Senzo died a coward
Well that's for argument kodwa cause in such cases I'm not saying this one but such cases obviously the wife send people to do the work cause the Husband has a mistress you know
How come the wife being a suspect while those who were at the house are not suspet
You must watch the documentary
Hats off to Tefo the judge in betweex and between.
Shame to Mosia,how pathetic can he be arriving at the crimescene without conducting a basic interrogation of those who were inside.
The truth will come out soon.
SBW to hear the singer's version.
Why are the others not appearing in court, they're saying 7 accused but there's 5 in court? What is even that about
This is fruitless and wasteful expenditure for the resources of this country,mosia is fired with immediate effect 😳
It seems this is a recording because adv Tefo said he will submit recommendations on Monday...trial within a trial...he said "luckily it is Friday"
when is the trial resuming?
Monday
@@mabasoprince5574 what time?
I would like to see Teffo's varsity marks. He doesn't seem to understand court procedures. He is the most sloppiest legal representitive I have ever see in my life.
Lol he is quite Sloppy😅
I feel bad for you
Ask us who did law teffo is doing a right and by the way the is a difference between defense lawyer, prosecutor and a judge.
I did law. I know very well, my dear. I am legal practitioner myself
@@gwuministries2895 no Gwu you're liyin
Mshololo o wa baba, u are hot sesi❤🔥❤🔥
Mosia sugar levels are dropping ziyakhala ke manje 😆
Kanjani bafo...the seat is too hot for him or witchcraft 😅😅😅
Bp is going high
Adv Teffo is just getting to excited