Sophia Tremolos: Upgrading from Floyd to Sophia 2:92 pro [+]
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- "... it's an understatement to call it the most signifiicant tremolo system upgrade introduced since the Floyd Rose." - Guitar World Magazine
Video showing the process of Upgrading a guitar from Floyd to Sophia 2:92 pro [+]
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I love my Sophia Tremolo system! I had mine installed on a Charvel San Dimas like the one pictured (Only mine has the blue, ocean burst finish). The person who installed it personally knows Floyd Rose and did hundreds if not thousands of Floyd Rose installs on many guitars for decades. He was extremely impressed with the quality and style of the Sophia 2:92! Incidentally, the system works like a dream! 🤘
Edit: I still unfortunately have the original Floyd Rose locking nut. I would really like to get one of these with the individual string locks! I'll have to save up!
Loved this vid explaines just about everything and makes it easier to understand the general concept of the trem and nut , awesome stuff 👍
The DropTuner upgrade does protrude and can limit upward pull if not addressed, perhaps, like the D-Tuna, which also requires an additional rout -
I built a parts guitar recently and wish I would’ve known about these products. This really is the best new bridge design since the Floyd.
That is a sophisticated tremolo system I'm impressed! Almost all of my guitars have either Floyd Rose or Edge Pro trem systems on them but I definitely want to get my hands on a few Sophias they are clearly next level!
great explenation video...Looks and sound killer...
Sold me on it! Great video
Love the Ringmaster 5 behind you. Think I remember that one in the shop. I have a 6&7 string RM. Sophia Trems are awesome!!
I love my Ibanez edge trem and I love my Sophia 292 best trem purchase ever !!! I'd really like to try one of your locking nuts 🙂
I recently ran across an interview series with Gary Kahler about the re-introduction of the Steeler tremolo platform for 2024, I was pretty stoked because the Killer is one of my favorite trem systems, only to be told that they were too expensive to produce. I proceeded to get into a heated discussion with the guy giving the interview where several suggestions were made and shot down because it 'just wouldn't work' (mostly involving simplifying the saddles because why tf do they need 13 parts each?) and that consumers are too uninformed to make worthwhile suggestions 🤦♂🤦♂. So imagine my surprise to see this wonderful piece of engineering! It's got the best things from the Killer without the convoluted (read ego stroking), has all of the 'impossible' suggestions already included and is no more expensive than the other top-line systems out there. Plus it can be use headless! Seriously well done!! I wish I would've know about this sooner. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to prepare my wallet for the beating your website is about to give it 😁😁
Thank you so much for the kind words and reception -- "we love this stuff ..." -- if you have any questions write to us at sales@cslsoopahia.com
Omg it won't let me bend to far back broken strings amazing !!!!
this is totally next level man, is there any way I can set the detuner to go a half step down ie E standard to Eb?
A big question for me.....I noticed Sophia makes a particular type locking nut that looks as if it may be ideal for a headless guitar....so can a Sophia trem and nut replace a Floyd Speedloader Trem and nut without mods? As you probably know, Speedloader strings are not made anymore leaving the Speedloader equipped guitars useless....thanks
We have seen a couple of conversions -- the body rout is small and we recommend the TI OFR-sized 32mm StopBlock -- The HPT Micro, with individual string locks, fits the normal locking nut shelf
i like that tremelo...will it replace my DC747 Carvin ? it has a floyd rose. ?? Do you make these ? is there a website with specs and instructions ?? thanl you. I also noticed the limitations of most tremelos..limited contact of strings cant send tone through the body
Yea, yea - the pre-tensioned stabilizer contact pins add extra contact and embellished the normally linear decay pattern -- they actually make the instrument louder [acousticall], etc....
The Sophia 2:92 Tremolos are built for original spec OFR® Vintage and Pro routing. -- www.sevenstring.org/threads/trem-replacement-swap-guide-what-trem-will-fit-what-cavity.236457/ comparison listing. It would seem that there is a general acceptance of fitment, stud spacing, etc. - See SophiaTremolos.com or write to us: sales@cslsophia.com
Best sounding trem by far with perfect sustain.
Hi! I have a LTD H3-1000 with a Floyd Rose 1000 SE would I need to route the posts to upgrade to a Sophia 292?
The short answer is No.. the Sophia 2:92 is a drop-in fit for nearly 7 years so far -- we even have OFR-sized Titanium spring blocks for small tremolo cavities -- We have a V2 "easy to setup" Global Tuner Pro that works with any pocket the can handle the big blocks -- write to us at sales@cslsophia.com -- thank you!
Does the locking nut come with the trem? If not, can it be purchased separately?
We sell the locking nut separately Ince so many guitars already have them -- the Sophia HeadPeace Tuner line have individual string locks and fir on vintage-sale locking nut shelfs -- may need a minor modification on some guitars....
Wow, that built in stabilizer is awesome.
Turns the instrument into something new...
Am I right in assuming that you’ll never need to unlock the Sophia nut once it’s locked as the fine tuners have infinite range?
Pretty much the case -- the macro-tuners a full range 50:1 ratio locking tuners
So for a brand new build, is there any difference between a Floyd Rose route out and a Sophia? Just asking if the router templates available for Floyd Rose are also the same for Sophia?
The Floyd Rose Pro rout from the FloydBook is a good place to start - -the 2:92 is a drop-in fit, depending on the neck angle and shape of the top, you could extend the recess rout slightly for the macro-tuners,-- otherwise, we see a good non-modified rate for installs...
@@merkaba22 so do you sell router templates?
@@corfo8433 We don't have anything like that -- we suggest the vintage Floyd Rose Pro template as the optimal place to start -- page 10 of the "Floyd Book"
great product! might purchase one but how do you adjust string height?
String height is adjusted, like any other vintage locking fulcrum tremolo, by adjusting the individual risers to suit, add shims to alter the radius -- Sophias are R14, great for 12~16R and compound radii ...
thats a crazy looking tremelo...looks almost like a bunch of exhaust pipes...i want one
What about the fact that saddle for the low E seems to hit the body. What happens if you pull back too much?
Thats What I Was wondering too
I like it! but whatever guitar I installed it on I would want the term pocket routed to complement the looks of the bridge piece. I'm not to fond of the way the locking nut looks, a bit bulky but mechanically I think it's a far better way of locking the strings at the nut location. If you could refine it to look more pleasing and retain it's functionality it would be a perfect 10!
We will be offering OFR-Sized locking nuts that reflect the smooth effect of the HeadPeace Tuner line within a few weeks -- maybe you'll like that one too!
@@merkaba22 Nice! Will it have individual string locking as well?
I have a Kiesel Ultra-V with a Floyd Rose Original on it. I like what I see with the Sophia 2:92 except for the extended length. I'd be worried that if I pulled up too much on the tremolo arm that the fine tuner knobs would extend beyond the cavity and dig into the guitar's finish- even without the detuner. From what videos I've seen, it would be a really close fit. Any experience with replacing FR trems with these on Kiesel Ultra V?
The Sophia 2:92 w/ macro-tuners fit most OFR tremolos with recessed cavities -- typically the recess should extend be a little less than 3" from the centerline of the risers -- we just got some custom stainless steel knobs that also introduce a shorty and a short spine version that are about .065 [incorreclty stated as .200"earlier] shorter -- the typical dimension of the end of the intonated six string macro-tuner is anywhere from 2.75 to 2.92"depending on the guitar, etc. -- the shorter knobs then reduce this length to 2.685 to 2.855 -
write us at sales@cslsophia.con or visit our website sophiatremolos.com
@@merkaba22 That is awesome news about the shorter knobs. I measured the cavity and it extends 2-13/16" from the centerline of the risers. Thank you for updating me on that info.
So the 2:92 Deluxe seems to not even have fine tuners on it- is that the difference between that and the more expensive model? If so, I may be able to do with that, since my guitar already has locking tuners at the headstock, although when I custom ordered the guitar from Kiesel, they recommended I get the locking FR nut anyway, which I did. I'm afraid that if I leave the FR locking nut in place, without locking it, the string grooves might not be suited for tremolo use.
@@gbferrell Yes, the Deluxe locking saddles do not have our full-range tuners -- if you lock the strings at the nut, you cannot further tune the guitar -- the issue with the first floyd, etc. -- We suggest you get tuners for this arrangement is best since otherwise we are not sure if anyone sells a non-locking nut for the vintage locking nut shelf specifications...
@@merkaba22 Ok, thank you. I like the idea of the 60:1 fine tuning knobs anyway.
I am confused on how to shim the Sophia for my 12" radius neck. Could you please tell exactly which strings (Low E, A, D, G, B, High E ) need to be shimmed and how much? I know this is a subjective question, but it would help to get a general idea of where to start. I'm thinking from your chart, the G should have one .2 mm shim and the rest of the strings don't need any. I think that's what you meant in your email but instead of 'G' you said 3rd string, which would depend on which side you are counting from. Usually, the high E is considered the 1st string, but just want to make sure.
We offer shims placed between the addle and the base plate, like intake locking tremolos, to alter the pre-fixed R14 radius we use on our tremolos.... shims under teh middle saddles increases the roundness and lowers the number, to say R 12 or R10 ..
@@merkaba22 Sorry, I missed your reply in our email chain: "The Sophia 2:92 is performance oriented and has an R14 specification that works well with R12 to R16 and compound radii out of the box - you can order a set of shims, placed between the macro-tuners and the base plate, to alter the radius if you prefer." So, basically, you are saying that the shims aren't absolutely necessary because the 14" radius Sophia will still work well with 12-16" radii, right out of the box and adding shims or not depends on personal preference. I mounted the tremolo last night with a .2mm shim under the G string saddle. Seems fine, but I have yet to adjust the intonation. If I'd read your email reply more carefully, I wouldn't have had to ask that question.
Do you have any models that would fit a Kiesel Zeus headless?
which model do you have, is there a tremolo?
How do I obtain one of those individual string locking nuts? How much do they cost?
sophiatremolos.com/collections/head-peaces/products/hpt-sophia-nut-individual-string-locks-height-adjustable-string-tree-ledge
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I will have one for my jem jr plz blow me up with advice and how I may get one as soon as a month
Hey back -- that conversion turned out very nice -- we get lots of feed back on that one! The basic Sophia 2:92 is a drop in fit with. stainless steel saddles, inner parts, risers, arm, etc. -- you can chose either the GT Pro or UNO Single Stabilizer Upgrade -- We are temporarily out of black base plates, the black chrome would match nicely. Just need the size fo your spring block, the distance from the spring end to bottom of the base plate. Check out our site, SophiaTremolos.com, for pricing and options ...
would it fit in a charvel 475 special. it has a JT 590 schaller?
Yes, the Sophia 2:92 is a drop-in fit for the OFR and it and the JT 590 by schaller are very similar -- . Parts are interchangeable except for the locking bolts -- given the associated rout, if deeply recessed, the macro-tuner knobs would be a close fit and like other solutions, the DropTuner would need the recess modified -- if floating above the body on this version, easy fit:) The GT Pro upgrade means you do most of the tuning from the QuickTune Thumbwheel in double locking and headless setups..
@@merkaba22 thank you ❤️
@@merkaba22 I am looking in the website. The 292 deluxe with the duel stabilizers I could tune it from the regular tuners right?. For my taste it looks amazing really and unique. If I can I would just upgrade to locking tuners what do you think?
@@crate718 yes, thank you! yes, you can do that too!
Will this work on an EVH which is dive only?
The Sophia is slightly different, offering a variable stabilization soft stop whilst the EVH offers a hard stop by decking the base plate... expect a small mod -- write ot us at: sales @cslsophia.com
This looks amazing! Will it fit in a Alexi Laiho guitar?
The short answer is YES -- replacement for OFR sized tremolo -- you just need spring block length -- 42, 37 ,34 or 32mm -- for the base model with a bell brass StopBlock and built-in TremStop -- The GT Pro upgrade fits most pockets
@@merkaba22 This 2:92 pro model will work? It’s currently on sale on your site.
@@9hk38f Yes -- just need the spring block on your current trem to get started.
Can you use the thumb wheel to tune from standard tuning in E to half step down to E-b and it will land all 6 strings in proper intonation?
No, unfortunately, since when the tremolo tilts both pitch and intonation are disturbed, -- the GT Pro will hold the base plate to +5 cents when dropping from E to D , and its believable and still floating tremolo.
@@merkaba22 What if i used the thumb wheel to roughly deune down a half-step to Eb, and then fine-tuned with macro / micro tuners? Would that be a good idea? Is it a possibility? I'm often re-tuning from standard to Eb and back.
@@Peterplayingguitar The QuickTune Thumbwheel is for re-establishing Initial Setup, where th base plate is 90º to the risers and string and intonation set. YOU could drop the tuning down with the thumbwheel, but the action will be higher and the intonation off a little bit, more apparent on higher on the neck... its physics ...
@@merkaba22 Roger that. Thanks for the reply.
This bridge can be use on a Strandberg?
Actually it would take some work -- what would be easier if your guitar can handle 2.11" spring spacing, is our Sophia 3:22 Tremolo drop-in for Gibson-style TOM/Stop arrangements...
You mention that it's great for headless guitars as well??? Is this a drop in Replacement for a Strandberg???
Not exactly -- some mods may be required depending on model...
Do you make a trem that can replace the cheap Chinese clones of the Steinberger R-Trem?
Actually, no ... the Sophia 3:22 Tremolo is closest but the string spacing is wider ... thank you for thinking of us!
@@merkaba22 I don't see the 3.22 on your website. I see the 3.44 and 4.44 but those aren't floating trems.
@@JoeR203 Its in pre production -- we are workin on the spring -- works but not up to snuff yet...
@@merkaba22 Work on one for the Steinberger Spirits too. 🙂
isn't the tuner for the low E going to hit the body when the player pulls up the trem arm? are there any Sophia models that fit into the recessed cutout for a FR trem?
For most body routs, the 2:92 is fine -- we have seen from time to time, the body rout is a little short -- especially, for guitars built for other than the OFR spec like the Schaller version, with insertable knives, where the screws extending though the whale tail are shorter and the rout cur for that spec.
Does it come in a 7 string version?
yes ...
Those thick tuning knobs at the end don't seem to be friendly for people with thick fingers
How exactly does copper change the way electricity "flows"? That's a new one for me.
I think it's pretty obvious he simply meant that copper is more conductive than typical stainless steel springs.
In my experience the best is Ibanez bearing system tremolo.
Thank you !!! The Sophia line is manufactured under multiple patents owned by Geoffrey McCabe - - Ibanez licensed the ZR tech from McCabe... the proceeds of which went to establish Sophia Tremolos ... love back as always ..
@@merkaba22 But, I dont understand why they stopped making it. It was really great solution.
@@vaguitarts3443 Thank you -- we were not in control of that decision ...
Fill out a form just to find out a price?
This type of choice is why more people don't know about Sophia.
Played one and liked it but not enough to jump through hoops chasing information that isn't there.
On our website, Sophia Tremolos each model, color and upgrade is shown with prices ... if there is a question outside of these variables we are interested in hearing from you .. for example the 2:92 is $390 right now, if its black, its + $20, etc.
no options for left handed
We had an issue with our supplier for left handed base plates and are working on it -- in the meantime, a left-handed arm upgrade, StopBlocks and GT Pros, locking risers, copper coated springs and claw are all compatible with vintage OFR specs... can be very nice:)
Im not trying to be rude. But copper springs and trem parts wont make a difference.
They are no-noise physically -- they do not require capacitance deading rubber or similar -- we have been doing this for over 8 years and so far there is a concensus .. but you could be right ....
want
I'm going going to look at these for my next build!.... but please, the blithering jazz, while great to listen to, is very distracting when trying to listen to you speak!
It’s “all natural Stainless steel”? Like it came right out of the wild? No additives or preservatives? Lol😂
At $437.00 I’ll be sticking with my Floyd!
haha -- that's funny dude -- love back as always!
@@merkaba22 I was just joking 🙃. That thing is too expensive for us poor folks tho! 😢
!@@GeorgeBonez Yea, yea -- we are good
Can we suggest the Global Tuner Pro upgrade -- also consider the locking riser post and no-wobble arm upgrades for your tremolo
@@merkaba22 ok $195 is more like it. I’m new to this trem so am I right in thinking this bolts onto a Floyd Rose like replacing the block ???
The Global Tuner I mean.
Over engineered. Just a Gotoh 510 with the Wilkinson locking saddles on it, a LSR ball bearing nut and staggered locking tuners, and the guitars stays in tune as good as a FR system. Way easier to intonate and tune.
Leave the Floyd ..
Titling this video ‘upgrading’ is really a matter of opinion. In my opinion, the Floyd Rose is the best tremolo ever made and there is no ‘upgrade’. But that’s just my opinion. Same as the title to this video, that asserts an opinion as if it’s fact. I guess it remains to be seen if the Sophia trem will become the industry standard for guitars and completely dominate the market for over 40 years. 🙄