Yes, there is a buffing compound that I put on the wheel. Sorry, I did not realize it had been edited out. You can see that the edge of the wheel is white and the compound stick is sitting right below the wheel. You can this compound anywhere buffing wheel are found. I will also put a link in the description where you can buy the compound.
@@PaganWizard He says he will put a "link in the description where you can buy the compound." So the question is: where is the description? description of what? I suggest you put the link in the REPLY as well as in the description.
Make a second MDF wheel the same way you made this one, then on your band saw, using the finest blade you have, make 1/2 inch deep cuts every 2 inches. These relief cuts will help keep your blade cool, this will make more sense as I continue. Mount your new wheel to the opposite side of the grinder as your original sharpening disk. After you go through the finishing stage as you did with the first wheel, apply a light coat of jewelers rouge to your new wheel. This second wheel will be your finishing wheel, used to remove any fine burrs, or wire left on the blade, leaving you with an absolutely perfect edge. If you're concerned about tying up your bench grinder with 2 sharpening disks, pick up a cheap bench grinder from Harbor Freight, Craigslist or even a garage sale, and make it your dedicated sharpening station, completely freeing up your better quality grinder for other operations. This sharpening station is now perfect for sharpening everything from a pocket knife, to a kitchen knife, and even an axe head. You can also unbolt the grinder from it's base, turn it 180 degrees, and reattach it to the base. Now, the switch will be on the front of the grinder, and the top of the wheels will turn away from you.
Good video I’d like to add that to make using this method safer I plan to use a speed control to slow the wheel down it may take me a little longer but that’s okay. Regards, Tom
Help! Made one of these today. Double thick 1/2" MDF glued together. Used a chisel and sandpaper on a block to get it smooth and round. Charged it with white compound. And all I could do is blunt my knives, which were sharp before. I use stones and a strop to get hair shaving sharp easily. I thought MDF would be an upgrade. I have a variable speed bench grinder and I definitely have some side to side wobble on the wheel. Is this why I am finding blunt knives after doing this?
The wobble is definitely not good. That means it out of balance or not flat and round. To sharpen the knives, it all about the angle. It should be approximately 20 degree angle.
My channel could show the don’ts and really don’t type!!! But I have no idea what I gotta do to start my own channel... I live on a budget so my tools aren’t top notch so I watch the experienced people like you and others and at this point I want everything and my biggest purchase is the skil table saw but still want a jointer and planet and a router table too.... you keep making your videos and give me many ideas and dreams of things to make and buy...but disability in Canada don’t pay so much like I make $672 a month so I depend on people like you so when I do get tools I don’t have to replace them every month as they break down or do a terrible job!!!!
You have to just start. Use the camera on your phone and film one video and upload it. Then do another and another before long you will have many subscribers. Everyone starts the same. Good luck
It may be possible. The hole in the center must be the same. (Most likely it will be). The guard will likely need to be removed. This potentially poses a safety hazard. Depending on the design of the grinder the wheel may hit the base. Bottom line is you need to try it and see. Please be aware of the safety issues.
Try using thick marine plywood instead as mdf is more dangerous and u can blow outs with it over time buddy.. Just a safety tip😉 iv used this method for my chisels🤙 shout out from ireland 🤙🍀
I don't blame you for showing off your C-N-C machine. If I had one I would, too. So of those sarcastic remarks are from pure envy. Neat idea. Will try this out. Thanks.
Thank you. The first disc that I made was using the band saw. Maybe that would upset some people, then there is a jig saw that could be used. How about a coping saw. I really appreciate your comments, you hit the nail on the head. It just shows that you can never make everyone happy and I am not trying to. I'm just showing people how I do things in my shop. Your comments are perfect. I think you are 100% correct.
I've heard that if you use a wheel or grinder that spins too fast, the edge on your knife can get overheated, which ruins the heat treatment of the knife steel, and makes the knife go dull alot quicker. So I have always tried to avoid sharpeining on any electric sharpener or fast spinning wheel
We don’t ALL have CNC machines but I wish I did!!!! I have to start a RUclips video channel for wood carving and tools!!!!! I’m buying a lot of things Willy nilly to get back into working with wood again!!!!!
Makes me wanna run out and buy a C-N-C machine... and a new multi-purpose shop to put it in! Then I’ll run over to the courthouse and sign those divorce papers I’m sure that will be coming! But I do love C-N-C machines. Nice video Paw Paw! Thx 😊
Black Friday is coming. I have no idea what promotion they will run at Inventables, but, you have to wonder if that will be the time. Also, you can tell you wife that you will make money with the CNC and pay for itself. Many people do just that.
Paw Paw’s WorkShop - Thanks, that is a great idea. Woodworking is a hobby that I picked back up. I love fabricating things. I built race cars, and now building a new Desert Race Truck (2017 Ford Raptor) for next years racing season, which started out as a hobby (that became a runway freight train, because I picked up several major sponsorships this year). However, more money goes out then comes in, a CNC machine would be great, because we are hand building the specialty parts for the truck. My day job is working as an Army civilian employee... after I served 21 years of active duty as a soldier. My Racing Team is called Toy Soldiers Racing. I’ve been seriously considering fabricating a light, hardwood center console, using ash wood because of its strength and is light weight. With all of the technology in modern race vehicles, I thought it would be nice to have a nice hardwood instrument/radio center console as a touch of old school wood components in a world gone mad with Carbon Fiber. Your thoughts?
No real reason. Most times I will use a waste board. I was planning on sanding and shaping once on the grinder and was not concerned about a few hundredths of an inch.
@@billwms8490 any polishing compound will do, im a jeweller and a wood turner an use this on my chisels. I find the white compound sticks work best of all ✌️🍀
Do you use any honing compound on the MDS wheels when sharpening knives. Also can the wheel be cut to shape with a Jig saw and then turned down with a chisel and then finished smooth with a belt sander. Most of us do not have CNC machines
Yes, but that's not the point. You can use a jig saw, scroll saw, band saw and even a table saw. The fact that I wanted to get across is how effective it is to sharpen the knife blade with MDF. Thank you very much for your comment.
You may be right but if I did not explain it well then I would feel that I left out important information that may help many people. You must realize that many people from around the world have different levels of experience on every topic. For you, maybe it just a review, for others it may be the first time hearing the information
What the heck is MDF? You don't tell us. It's a mistake to use acronyms without explaining them, because not everyone knows what they mean. (This from a professional educator.)
Medium Density Fiberboard. Basically sawdust and glue. You make a valid point. I will be covering this and much more in my beginner series that I am working on now. I am accepting input now for the upcoming videos in this video series covering basic tools and putting together a shop on a budget. Thank you for your input.
You are a skilled craftsman for sure. It seems, to do the job correctly, you need expensive equipment including a computer program. Not helpful to guys like me. I guess I'll stick to my Lansky.
I tried it and it dulled the crap out of my knife. Didn't know about the buffing compound until reading the comments. I can't see that making any difference.
Well, it is available to all. Use the best tool for the job. If you do not have a CNC then use a band saw. If you do not have a band saw, use a jig saw. You can even use the table saw.
Sorry, you lost me at the first half of the video. Too much time on the CNC machine. I get it, you love your CNC, but I came here for the sharpening aspect. I’m not singling you out. Many craftsman will produce a video in a wood/machine shop with very specialized or expensive tools which most people can’t afford or have access to. Didn’t learn much if that was your goal.
I understand. There are many ways to cut out a wheel. Jig saw, band saw, scroll saw, even a table saw can cut the wheel and yes a CNC machine. To sharpen a knife is the easy part of the video. Spinning plywood or MDF with a little compound and you're done. It works great.
Why not use a machine or tool that -- most likely -- the majority of viewers might have at their disposal, that you, yourself admit would do just as well. Look at how many individual people have been irritated at you showing off your expertise...........
There are multiple ways to cut this out. I stated that. This is a CNC and woodworking channel. What if you had no power saws at all. Lets go way back in history. Grab a knife and start cutting. Maybe that is still to modern. Tools always evolve. Either evolve with it or stay in the dark ages. Your choice. For me being an old guy, I chose to move into the 21st century. I like technology. It makes our lives easier.
Hell just grab a beaver by his neck , set his nose on the board, an hit his butt 8 times for board. Now for that half inch center hole 🕳, well that’s tricky, grease your finger up 🙈 you see where I’m going here? Lol
Paw Paw .... you missed the point in easily trying to help DIY beginners. One would be better off purchasing the commercial product. Sorry, not much help here for the common man to “sharpen” their knives. How about a video without using your “CNC” machine.
Why in the world did he make this video? If you have a cnc raise your hand. He said don’t let the knife dig in but he didn’t explain what direction the sharpening wheel needs to be turning to prevent that. If someone gets hurt it will be his fault. Misleading description of the video. Not about how to sharpen but about making a wheel. Thumbs down on this one.
I don’t know what video you watched but he explained it pretty well I thought. He showed the direction of the wheel turning and he showed how to hold a knife so as to not dig into the wheel. Pretty obvious. So if you gave him a thumbs down for that I think you’re kind of a douche or an imbecile
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Yes, there is a buffing compound that I put on the wheel. Sorry, I did not realize it had been edited out. You can see that the edge of the wheel is white and the compound stick is sitting right below the wheel. You can this compound anywhere buffing wheel are found. I will also put a link in the description where you can buy the compound.
I don't see the link to the compound stick you used.
@@PaganWizard He says he will put a "link in the description where you can buy the compound." So the question is: where is the description? description of what? I suggest you put the link in the REPLY as well as in the description.
there direction arrow is black on black .... maybe use "white out" to draw the arrow
Make a second MDF wheel the same way you made this one, then on your band saw, using the finest blade you have, make 1/2 inch deep cuts every 2 inches. These relief cuts will help keep your blade cool, this will make more sense as I continue. Mount your new wheel to the opposite side of the grinder as your original sharpening disk. After you go through the finishing stage as you did with the first wheel, apply a light coat of jewelers rouge to your new wheel. This second wheel will be your finishing wheel, used to remove any fine burrs, or wire left on the blade, leaving you with an absolutely perfect edge. If you're concerned about tying up your bench grinder with 2 sharpening disks, pick up a cheap bench grinder from Harbor Freight, Craigslist or even a garage sale, and make it your dedicated sharpening station, completely freeing up your better quality grinder for other operations. This sharpening station is now perfect for sharpening everything from a pocket knife, to a kitchen knife, and even an axe head. You can also unbolt the grinder from it's base, turn it 180 degrees, and reattach it to the base. Now, the switch will be on the front of the grinder, and the top of the wheels will turn away from you.
Excellent idea, thank you very much.
Good video I’d like to add that to make using this method safer I plan to use a speed control to slow the wheel down it may take me a little longer but that’s okay. Regards, Tom
Good idea. Thanks
Help! Made one of these today. Double thick 1/2" MDF glued together. Used a chisel and sandpaper on a block to get it smooth and round. Charged it with white compound. And all I could do is blunt my knives, which were sharp before. I use stones and a strop to get hair shaving sharp easily. I thought MDF would be an upgrade. I have a variable speed bench grinder and I definitely have some side to side wobble on the wheel. Is this why I am finding blunt knives after doing this?
The wobble is definitely not good. That means it out of balance or not flat and round. To sharpen the knives, it all about the angle. It should be approximately 20 degree angle.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thank you. So, how do I measure the 20deg angle? I would know how to do it on a stone, but on a wheel, I am clueless.
Thanks for the video. I think we’ll do this project this weekend. I had know idea you could sharpen knives so easily.
Thank you very much
My channel could show the don’ts and really don’t type!!! But I have no idea what I gotta do to start my own channel... I live on a budget so my tools aren’t top notch so I watch the experienced people like you and others and at this point I want everything and my biggest purchase is the skil table saw but still want a jointer and planet and a router table too.... you keep making your videos and give me many ideas and dreams of things to make and buy...but disability in Canada don’t pay so much like I make $672 a month so I depend on people like you so when I do get tools I don’t have to replace them every month as they break down or do a terrible job!!!!
You have to just start. Use the camera on your phone and film one video and upload it. Then do another and another before long you will have many subscribers. Everyone starts the same. Good luck
Nice set up with the CNC !
Thanks 👍
Can I put a thing-a-ma-gig (not sure what it is called) on my 6" grinder to slow it down?
Variable speed. It’s usually an in-line switch or even a foot pedal to control the speed of the tool
I going to try this Do you need any grit or just the buffing compound and mdf
Just the compound
Thanks for any hints for the best place to sharpen the blade ect
This man starts out saying nothing fancy here then proceeds to flex on us with his CNC.
Use whatever tool you have to cut the wheel. I have a CNC but you can just as easy do this with a bandsaw, jigsaw, or even a table saw. Your choice.
I was not expecting him to have a CNC machine. I'm jelly. lol.
'Flex on us with his CNC' - LOL!
Can I put an 8" wheel on a 6" grinder?
It may be possible. The hole in the center must be the same. (Most likely it will be). The guard will likely need to be removed. This potentially poses a safety hazard. Depending on the design of the grinder the wheel may hit the base. Bottom line is you need to try it and see. Please be aware of the safety issues.
Thank you so much
Is that board like a cardboard type material?
It MDF (medium density fiber)
For restoring the main wheel, what silicon carbide grit do you recommend. Thanks
Are you referring to the plywood wheel or the stone wheel?
@@PawPawsWorkShop mdf wheel
I have to wonder if people actually listen to what you say in the videos, you speak clearly and to the point!
Try using thick marine plywood instead as mdf is more dangerous and u can blow outs with it over time buddy.. Just a safety tip😉 iv used this method for my chisels🤙 shout out from ireland 🤙🍀
Thanks for the information. I appreciate that very much.
I don't blame you for showing off your C-N-C machine. If I had one I would, too. So of those sarcastic remarks are from pure envy. Neat idea. Will try this out. Thanks.
Thank you. The first disc that I made was using the band saw. Maybe that would upset some people, then there is a jig saw that could be used. How about a coping saw. I really appreciate your comments, you hit the nail on the head. It just shows that you can never make everyone happy and I am not trying to. I'm just showing people how I do things in my shop. Your comments are perfect. I think you are 100% correct.
Isn't MDF dust dangerous for lungs, since it contains all kind of nasties?
Yes, but when you are honing a knife nothing really is coming off this wheel.
I've heard that if you use a wheel or grinder that spins too fast, the edge on your knife can get overheated, which ruins the heat treatment of the knife steel, and makes the knife go dull alot quicker. So I have always tried to avoid sharpeining on any electric sharpener or fast spinning wheel
Please, don’t let the blade get hot. It takes very little effort to sharpen
This is a great idea for creating a sharpening tool. Thank you so much!
Thank you very much
Do you need to use anything else to polish up the blade after using it on the MDF?
You can hone the blade but I usually do not do anything except clean and start using it.
Great stuff. I have made my own knife sharpener as you have, its fantastic. Well done Mate.
Thank you very much.
Try thick ¾ or 1inch ply instead. Mdf is dangerous an will blowout over time leading to a disastrous consequences. Trust me!
We don’t ALL have CNC machines but I wish I did!!!! I have to start a RUclips video channel for wood carving and tools!!!!! I’m buying a lot of things Willy nilly to get back into working with wood again!!!!!
Absolutely, start a RUclips channel. There is room for everyone.
Thank you
You’re welcome. Glad it helped you
Makes me wanna run out and buy a C-N-C machine... and a new multi-purpose shop to put it in! Then I’ll run over to the courthouse and sign those divorce papers I’m sure that will be coming! But I do love C-N-C machines. Nice video Paw Paw! Thx 😊
Black Friday is coming. I have no idea what promotion they will run at Inventables, but, you have to wonder if that will be the time. Also, you can tell you wife that you will make money with the CNC and pay for itself. Many people do just that.
Paw Paw’s WorkShop - Thanks, that is a great idea. Woodworking is a hobby that I picked back up. I love fabricating things. I built race cars, and now building a new Desert Race Truck (2017 Ford Raptor) for next years racing season, which started out as a hobby (that became a runway freight train, because I picked up several major sponsorships this year). However, more money goes out then comes in, a CNC machine would be great, because we are hand building the specialty parts for the truck. My day job is working as an Army civilian employee... after I served 21 years of active duty as a soldier. My Racing Team is called Toy Soldiers Racing. I’ve been seriously considering fabricating a light, hardwood center console, using ash wood because of its strength and is light weight. With all of the technology in modern race vehicles, I thought it would be nice to have a nice hardwood instrument/radio center console as a touch of old school wood components in a world gone mad with Carbon Fiber. Your thoughts?
That cnc router would be a very interesting video paw paw
Thank you very much. I have done many many videos on the CNC
Nice set up 👌🛠️
Is there a reason you don't just use a sacrificial waste piece under the work piece, so you can cut all the way through?
No real reason. Most times I will use a waste board. I was planning on sanding and shaping once on the grinder and was not concerned about a few hundredths of an inch.
To all those who are wondering about the easiest way to cut out a disk, just use the appropriate size tank cutter AKA hole saw.
Yes, another way to do it.
Or a jigsaw for those who dont have hole saws
Or cut the circle out on the table saw. I've been wanting to do that. A router can do it as well.
Do you ever put a compound on the wheel?
Yes, definitely! I thought I had caught it on camera but maybe not. That is a very important step. Thank you!
What is the compound you put have you put on
@@billwms8490 any polishing compound will do, im a jeweller and a wood turner an use this on my chisels. I find the white compound sticks work best of all ✌️🍀
Do you use any honing compound on the MDS wheels when sharpening knives. Also can the wheel be cut to shape with a Jig saw and then turned down with a chisel and then finished smooth with a belt sander. Most of us do not have CNC machines
Yes, I do use the honing compound and yes you can cut this with a jig saw
That looks to me like melamine on top? where do you get that type of MDF at?
Not sure where to get the black melamine. This material was given to me as scraps. It was removed from a retail store. It was saved from the dumpster.
@@PawPawsWorkShop what a good score for scrap!
which type/colour/grit of compound did you use?
thank you for sharing!
I use the white. I have a link in the description under my affiliate links to purchase
@@PawPawsWorkShop , thanks again.
What’s the motor speed?
I used a jigsaw for mine and was finished around the same time you were still on the computer.
That's great. While my CNC is cutting this project, I am building another project at the same time. Thank you very much.
Paw Paw’s WorkShop nice comeback. I think he was joking. What we really need is a Bridgebort milling machine
@@PawPawsWorkShop But I had already finished that second project while you were building it on your PC again.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Totally not necessary unless you’re cutting something like steel or another metal...
Great vid. I wish I had a CNC machine. :-(
Maybe one day! It took me over two years of planning, research and saving to finally get a CNC.
Most folks don't have a CNC machine so it would be nice to see a way to cut it out without a expensive machine doing the work. Nice job though.
Yes, but that's not the point. You can use a jig saw, scroll saw, band saw and even a table saw. The fact that I wanted to get across is how effective it is to sharpen the knife blade with MDF. Thank you very much for your comment.
So you're saying it doesn't matter how I hold the knife?
What??? Of course it does!! You must hold the knife correctly or you could get hurt.
You mentioned MDF about a dozen times. What IS mdf. Just say'n.
Medium Density Fiberboard
explained it as if you were expecting a 4 yr old to be watching. Anyone needing a 1st grade instruction shouldn't be allowed to even hold a knife
You may be right but if I did not explain it well then I would feel that I left out important information that may help many people. You must realize that many people from around the world have different levels of experience on every topic. For you, maybe it just a review, for others it may be the first time hearing the information
What the heck is MDF? You don't tell us. It's a mistake to use acronyms without explaining them, because not everyone knows what they mean. (This from a professional educator.)
Medium Density Fiberboard. Basically sawdust and glue. You make a valid point. I will be covering this and much more in my beginner series that I am working on now. I am accepting input now for the upcoming videos in this video series covering basic tools and putting together a shop on a budget. Thank you for your input.
LOL Ever heard of Google search? what is a cnc?
Sn evree1 wl spk in acynms
I didn’t know a round wooden wheel could sharpen a knife, did you coat the sharpen edge with anything? I learned something new today. Thanks.
you ever heard of a search engine bud?
good precautionary I think u need cyclone dust collector in your shop . goodluck
You are a skilled craftsman for sure. It seems, to do the job correctly, you need expensive equipment including a computer program. Not helpful to guys like me. I guess I'll stick to my Lansky.
No, you do not need expensive tools to be successful. You can do the same thing with a jig saw.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thanks!
This video is more a CNC machine class
It’s both
I tried it and it dulled the crap out of my knife. Didn't know about the buffing compound until reading the comments. I can't see that making any difference.
You may be holding the knife at the wrong angle to dull the knife more. It should be about a 20 degree angle.
@@PawPawsWorkShop Thank you soo much. I'll have to try it some other night.
Definitely overkill - I cut my sharpening disc using a very quickly made bandsaw circle cutting jig !
What the Hell is MDF?
Medium Density Fiberboard. This is discussed in the description.
This video was apparently more about his cnc machine than knife sharpening as he used up three quarter of the video talking about. His cnc machine.
It's about a better sharpening method. The CNC use was hopefully more interesting that looking at a band saw. Thank you for your comment
Yaaaa. We all have a CNC
Well, it is available to all. Use the best tool for the job. If you do not have a CNC then use a band saw. If you do not have a band saw, use a jig saw. You can even use the table saw.
I'm throwing out my jig saw,lathe ,hole saw, coping saw ,band saw,drop saw and buy a CNC machine 😨
Alright, have a garage sale or just put it to the curb. CNC machines are awesome! Who needs all that other stuff. lol I'm keeping mine. Good luck!
Not very helpful for those of us who don't have computer programs and high tech drills. All the best.
As I said in the video, you can cut the disk out with a jig saw or band saw. Heck, you can even do it on a table saw. You do not need a CNC machine.
Sorry, you lost me at the first half of the video. Too much time on the CNC machine. I get it, you love your CNC, but I came here for the sharpening aspect. I’m not singling you out. Many craftsman will produce a video in a wood/machine shop with very specialized or expensive tools which most people can’t afford or have access to. Didn’t learn much if that was your goal.
I understand. There are many ways to cut out a wheel. Jig saw, band saw, scroll saw, even a table saw can cut the wheel and yes a CNC machine. To sharpen a knife is the easy part of the video. Spinning plywood or MDF with a little compound and you're done. It works great.
Wear a face shield
Thank you for your concern
Why not use a machine or tool that -- most likely -- the majority of viewers might have at their disposal, that you, yourself admit would do just as well. Look at how many individual
people have been irritated at you showing off your expertise...........
There are multiple ways to cut this out. I stated that. This is a CNC and woodworking channel. What if you had no power saws at all. Lets go way back in history. Grab a knife and start cutting. Maybe that is still to modern. Tools always evolve. Either evolve with it or stay in the dark ages. Your choice. For me being an old guy, I chose to move into the 21st century. I like technology. It makes our lives easier.
Hell just grab a beaver by his neck , set his nose on the board, an hit his butt 8 times for board. Now for that half inch center hole 🕳, well that’s tricky, grease your finger up 🙈 you see where I’m going here? Lol
Paw Paw .... you missed the point in easily trying to help DIY beginners. One would be better off purchasing the commercial product. Sorry, not much help here for the common man to “sharpen” their knives. How about a video without using your “CNC” machine.
Just grab a jig saw and do it. It’s not that hard
Why in the world did he make this video? If you have a cnc raise your hand. He said don’t let the knife dig in but he didn’t explain what direction the sharpening wheel needs to be turning to prevent that. If someone gets hurt it will be his fault. Misleading description of the video. Not about how to sharpen but about making a wheel. Thumbs down on this one.
Thanks for you opinion.
@@PawPawsWorkShop no problem. Make a video that will be useful to common people. We don’t have cnc machines. Thanks anyway.
Just grab a jig saw and a drill. You can do it.
I don’t know what video you watched but he explained it pretty well I thought. He showed the direction of the wheel turning and he showed how to hold a knife so as to not dig into the wheel. Pretty obvious. So if you gave him a thumbs down for that I think you’re kind of a douche or an imbecile
@@scottstubberud1137 Stubberud sounds like something I ate 2 days ago and I am still cutting farts from it. I would not recommend this dish to anyone.
Stop running your mouth so much and show the project
Mute works.