I miss the absurdity of old drag race when they had these "serious" challenges where it was like "America's next top drag queen needs to know how to feed starving african children while also modeling for a book" it's that deadpan absurdity that made the early seasons so funny.
Also the fact that challenges actually felt like they had some sort of vision before. Now it's just "well we have to have an unconventional materials challenge. We have to have the acting challenge. What's a new musical that we haven't covered yet that we might be able to get some sponsorship money from in order to promote it on the show?" Unconventional materials in particular has felt lackluster in recent seasons- but not because of the looks the queens have turned out. It used to be actual unconventional materials (candy, paper, monopoly money, hair, etc.), and now it is basically just fabric, but taken from a pillowcase or men's shirt instead of a bolt.
I don’t know, maybe I’m just weird but Detox’s exit “line” has been iconic to me ever since this episode aired. I’ve been quoting it for like 10 years now 😂
I miss when the ball episodes didn’t involve the whole freaking cast. The only ones that stand out are usually the ones who make it to the top 4/5 anyway.
well they used to complain that the show was too focused on acting and shit and the queens couldn't show the bread an butter of drag that is making your own outfits (even though that's not really true anymore because even new drag queens have designer teams now).
Ok, so about that lipsync... 💀💀💀 It's basically an open secret at this point that production switched the song the night before It's been confirmed by Jinkx herself as well as many other people Also, Malambo was literally the song Jinkx boasted about knowing best all the time in the work room and suddenly, when the bottom 2 started to shape up as her and Detox, the lipsync changed to it from "Free your mind" initially Also also, Detox was so pissed, she started talking to her body mic and swearing at production, and cursing and calling them out because she "knew they could hear her" 😭💖 To this day, Jinkx still stands her ground, that even if the song hadn't been changed, she was so determined to stay and not lose, she would've still beaten Detox - either way, both legends. ♡ What a season. Love. ❤
Confirmed by both Detox and Jinkx. Detox seems more Zen about it in interviews nowadays. Although "Free Your Mind" would have been more Detox's cup of tea, it was her 3rd time in the bottom, so she kind of figured unless she really KILLED it (and she doesn't do a lot of stunts, just her lip quiver) she probably was going home. And Jinx thought she'd have probably beaten Detox with Free Your Mind anyway, since it's a pretty well known song in the lip sync circuit. Honestly I thought it was a change that was for the best.
I will die on the hill that Roxxxy should have won this episode. She incorporated candy into every look, and everything was so clean and amazing. ALSO the story would have been amazing! Roxxxy, the villain, pulls ahead right before the finale, where Jinkx comes out on top as the ultimate underdog. I'm sure others have pointed this out but the song here was specifically chosen to save Jinkx. This was the one song on the list of songs for the season that she wanted to do. Jinkx and Alaska talk about it on the Race Chaser podcast.
Personally I think Roxxxy and Alaska were neck and neck, but Alaska's Sweet 16 was better, and Alaska's candy couture was just slightly better than Roxxxy's.
"This was the one song on the list of songs for the season that she wanted to do. Jinkx and Alaska talk about it on the Race Chaser podcast." Among other things, Detox was asked by Mathu to help Jinkx with her makeup (she said f- no). It was very much a situation where Jinkx was both very good at a majority of things and was very endearing and production both like that aspect and her campy old-school Varla Jean Merman style of Drag but also could see the roughness/weakness i.e. makeup and runways. That specific production favoritism was the general reason why Detox and Roxxxy were so pissed off, which is really funny given Roxxxy's Pageant Background. They both could see the writing on the wall and also production egged on these reactions for content and storyline, which is the shady, messy, rigga morris ways of early season drag race we're missing now. One thing also about the editing is how rarely we're shown the moments when Jinkx fights back. Like Jinkx is also a shady old-school drag queen and I think it was a bit of a disservice to her and the audience to not show her reads the other girls back.
i am fully of the opinion that alaska's executive realness runway is the best runway presentation that has ever appeared on the show. the outfit, the wig, the props, the voiceover. immaculate and hilarious
When I first watched S5 I completely saw Jinkx as the underdog. Then when I rewatch it, you completely see her doing so well in multiple competitions, I didn't understand how I ever saw her as the underdog. She was always a strong performer
As much I love Jinkx, I don't think any Jinkx apologist can say she did well in this challenge. MB are right, this was a very correct judgment; Alaska won, Roxxxy was safe, and Detox and Jinkx were in the bottom. Only thing I wish ya guys had talked about was the fact this was Roxxxy's second candy dress, after he was talked out of making that weird candy-dipped Doritos chip corset. As much as her candy string dress was EYE-CON-EEK I will always be curious what the doritos dress would have looked like! Roxxxy honestly has two taste levels: perfection and 'what, why?'
alaska and willam talked in race chaser about how they changed the song last minute and jyinx had already talked about doing this song previously during production, so this lip sync was actually another example of them throwing a soft ball to one of the competitors
I think it was on the S5 Race Chaser episodes, but I seem to remember hearing either Jinkx or Detox talk about how clearly the producers had set up the lipsync win in this episode, bc behind the scenes every contestant had a 'chosen' song that they preferred (or something like that) and Mamlambo No. 1 was Jinkx's.
Jinkx has talked about this on Race Chasers, and Detox has talked about this in multiple interviews. in Joseph Shepherd's Exposed interview specifically, she talks about how Jinkx would constantly sing Malambo No 1 between filming and like a few days before the runway they decided to switch songs from Free Your Mind to Malambo.
Michelle's comment reminded me of my mom. She wouldn't' let me be friends with girls who wore red or black dresses to homecoming/prom because they were "too grown" lol
I would like you to know that I say "Of cOurse" like that man, to myself, about 10 times a week nowadays; but I also missed when it was first mentioned and have no idea what it's from! Meaning multiple times a day I'm making a reference to a reference I don't even know!! 😭😭
4:40 But did she lie though, lol. 23:20 So I watched Season 5 like few years after it aired (still my first season, cause it was hard to pirate for free living in Europe). And for me Detox was fully just giving mint-oreo vibes.
I hope yall mention that the reason that Absolut Vodka is no longer a sponsor is because they wanted Alaska to win, and Ru put her foot down and said Jinx would win.
I think Detox was saying “maj” a la Rachel Zoe. She references it and Rachel Zoe several times during the season. I always assumed it’s short for major? From Race Chasers Jinkx said that early on they were all chatting about the lip sync song list and what they’d kill on and Jinkx said she’d be undefeatable on Malambo No 1. Then they changed the song from En Vogue to Malambo the day of when she and detox were in the bottom 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah, this was that weird little pocket of time where Rachel Zoe was a thing. Happens next season as well with Laganja doing Zoe for Snatch Game ... and then she just dropped off the face of the earth.
Even at the time I had no idea what she said... I thought it was just a weird muppet noise. Now the only thing Rachel Zoe seems to be doing is selling napkins at HomeGoods with Christian Sirianos Christmas tree skirts and Christian LaCroix fugly cheap Halloween decor.@@darkmask5933
this prompted me to go back and watch Jinx performing All that Jazz live after she won... Roxy was beyond delusional trying to convince Jinx she didn't deserve to win smdh
I think there is a way to do “teen drag” as a look, but it relies on embracing the awkwardness of it. Like, when the actresses from Pen15 are their younger selves. Or Liam Kyle Sullivan as Kelly, and her shoes 👠. I think if you go that route it works. If that makes any sense.
I'm ready for my "I should not be watching this at work but I don't get paid enough" weekly upload 🩷🩷 I love you two for all the hours of entertainment I've got watching you, youre the best
I miss the absurdity of old drag race when they had these "serious" challenges where it was like "America's next top drag queen needs to know how to feed starving african children while also modeling for a book" it's that deadpan absurdity that made the early seasons so funny.
Completely this. I totally agree.
Also the fact that challenges actually felt like they had some sort of vision before. Now it's just "well we have to have an unconventional materials challenge. We have to have the acting challenge. What's a new musical that we haven't covered yet that we might be able to get some sponsorship money from in order to promote it on the show?"
Unconventional materials in particular has felt lackluster in recent seasons- but not because of the looks the queens have turned out. It used to be actual unconventional materials (candy, paper, monopoly money, hair, etc.), and now it is basically just fabric, but taken from a pillowcase or men's shirt instead of a bolt.
The way Detox pointed to her lips and Michelle raised an eyebrow was everything
"yes Detox, I see it. I saw it last week as well."
Apparently Detox says "Mesh!" as her exit line, which was a slang thing for the LA queens back then, but it didn't catch on.
I don’t know, maybe I’m just weird but Detox’s exit “line” has been iconic to me ever since this episode aired. I’ve been quoting it for like 10 years now 😂
Meeeeeeeep🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
I miss when the ball episodes didn’t involve the whole freaking cast. The only ones that stand out are usually the ones who make it to the top 4/5 anyway.
OMG, I agree! I hate the balls with 16 queens and 48 looks! >.
Agreed
but if less is more imagine how much more is more!
well they used to complain that the show was too focused on acting and shit and the queens couldn't show the bread an butter of drag that is making your own outfits (even though that's not really true anymore because even new drag queens have designer teams now).
Detox executive look was an actual Mugler suit, that's why it looked so sharp
She loves the mugler fantasy
Ok, so about that lipsync... 💀💀💀
It's basically an open secret at this point that production switched the song the night before
It's been confirmed by Jinkx herself as well as many other people
Also, Malambo was literally the song Jinkx boasted about knowing best all the time in the work room and suddenly, when the bottom 2 started to shape up as her and Detox, the lipsync changed to it from "Free your mind" initially
Also also, Detox was so pissed, she started talking to her body mic and swearing at production, and cursing and calling them out because she "knew they could hear her" 😭💖
To this day, Jinkx still stands her ground, that even if the song hadn't been changed, she was so determined to stay and not lose, she would've still beaten Detox - either way, both legends. ♡
What a season. Love. ❤
Confirmed by both Detox and Jinkx.
Detox seems more Zen about it in interviews nowadays.
Although "Free Your Mind" would have been more Detox's cup of tea,
it was her 3rd time in the bottom, so she kind of figured unless she really KILLED it (and she doesn't do a lot of stunts, just her lip quiver) she probably was going home.
And Jinx thought she'd have probably beaten Detox with Free Your Mind anyway, since it's a pretty well known song in the lip sync circuit.
Honestly I thought it was a change that was for the best.
I will die on the hill that Roxxxy should have won this episode. She incorporated candy into every look, and everything was so clean and amazing. ALSO the story would have been amazing! Roxxxy, the villain, pulls ahead right before the finale, where Jinkx comes out on top as the ultimate underdog.
I'm sure others have pointed this out but the song here was specifically chosen to save Jinkx. This was the one song on the list of songs for the season that she wanted to do. Jinkx and Alaska talk about it on the Race Chaser podcast.
Personally I think Roxxxy and Alaska were neck and neck, but Alaska's Sweet 16 was better, and Alaska's candy couture was just slightly better than Roxxxy's.
Agree I feel crazy when people genuinely don’t feel Roxxxy blew everyone outta the water cause she definitely did for me
"This was the one song on the list of songs for the season that she wanted to do. Jinkx and Alaska talk about it on the Race Chaser podcast." Among other things, Detox was asked by Mathu to help Jinkx with her makeup (she said f- no). It was very much a situation where Jinkx was both very good at a majority of things and was very endearing and production both like that aspect and her campy old-school Varla Jean Merman style of Drag but also could see the roughness/weakness i.e. makeup and runways. That specific production favoritism was the general reason why Detox and Roxxxy were so pissed off, which is really funny given Roxxxy's Pageant Background. They both could see the writing on the wall and also production egged on these reactions for content and storyline, which is the shady, messy, rigga morris ways of early season drag race we're missing now. One thing also about the editing is how rarely we're shown the moments when Jinkx fights back. Like Jinkx is also a shady old-school drag queen and I think it was a bit of a disservice to her and the audience to not show her reads the other girls back.
I come for the gownds but stay for the continual supply of 90s Hank Azaria
I can't believe What We Do In The Shadows referenced Kim Cattrall scatting FINE I'm watching that show
It’s sooo good
i am fully of the opinion that alaska's executive realness runway is the best runway presentation that has ever appeared on the show. the outfit, the wig, the props, the voiceover. immaculate and hilarious
That final Roxxxy outfit lives rent free in my head. Loved it!
All I can see when I look at Alaska’s executive realness is Jane Lynch.
I always think of Michelle visage saying “it’s a piece of fabric”
Fun fact: mercury and hermes are actually the same god, the first is how the romans named him and the latter is how the greeks did.
When I first watched S5 I completely saw Jinkx as the underdog. Then when I rewatch it, you completely see her doing so well in multiple competitions, I didn't understand how I ever saw her as the underdog. She was always a strong performer
"we are, we are sooooo basic" has been in my head for the last however many years since this aired
As much I love Jinkx, I don't think any Jinkx apologist can say she did well in this challenge. MB are right, this was a very correct judgment; Alaska won, Roxxxy was safe, and Detox and Jinkx were in the bottom.
Only thing I wish ya guys had talked about was the fact this was Roxxxy's second candy dress, after he was talked out of making that weird candy-dipped Doritos chip corset. As much as her candy string dress was EYE-CON-EEK I will always be curious what the doritos dress would have looked like! Roxxxy honestly has two taste levels: perfection and 'what, why?'
I don't know about the other two but Alaska has said that her and Jinkx really bonded during the show. That's good to know it wasn't a total gang up.
10:29 the word you’re looking for is ’paillettes’ (like pie-yet’s)
I miss when the queens would wear like everyday or work wear and build a character out of it, like Alaska did here in the executive realness category
Can you make a letterboxd list with the movies on your artwork? I know most but there are some with really small text or usually behind your heads.
alaska and willam talked in race chaser about how they changed the song last minute and jyinx had already talked about doing this song previously during production, so this lip sync was actually another example of them throwing a soft ball to one of the competitors
30:02 she’s saying “MASH!” Like the TV show :)
They changed the lip sync last moment that’s what Detox is fuming
I hope the producers are watching these videos and taking notes
Jinkx's sweet 16 look walked so Carol Baskin could run... and feed her husband to the tigers
I am once again asking for someone to tell me EXACTLY what lifetime christmas movie "of course" is from. lol
SAME please
It's from "Sense, Sensibility & Snowmen" (2019)
@@JirosWorld 🙏
@@JirosWorld Thank you!
I want a spoken word lipsync to the 'we were all rooting for you!' scene
I think it was on the S5 Race Chaser episodes, but I seem to remember hearing either Jinkx or Detox talk about how clearly the producers had set up the lipsync win in this episode, bc behind the scenes every contestant had a 'chosen' song that they preferred (or something like that) and Mamlambo No. 1 was Jinkx's.
Jinkx has talked about this on Race Chasers, and Detox has talked about this in multiple interviews. in Joseph Shepherd's Exposed interview specifically, she talks about how Jinkx would constantly sing Malambo No 1 between filming and like a few days before the runway they decided to switch songs from Free Your Mind to Malambo.
Thanks, @@shinokyouku ! It was floating around my brain but I couldn't remember exactly where I'd heard which bits
Michelle's comment reminded me of my mom. She wouldn't' let me be friends with girls who wore red or black dresses to homecoming/prom because they were "too grown" lol
I would like you to know that I say "Of cOurse" like that man, to myself, about 10 times a week nowadays; but I also missed when it was first mentioned and have no idea what it's from! Meaning multiple times a day I'm making a reference to a reference I don't even know!! 😭😭
Sense and Sensibility and Snowmen! It was one of our christmas episodes
@@MovieBitches 😂 thank you! I wasn't complaining because I do love the running gags in your videos, but it is good to know!
Austin Powers retro review? Jack retro review? (the house in it is awesome)
10:25 Maybe it was a paillette dress?
I was waiting for you guys all day. But happy happy joy joy your video showed up and thank you so much.
Mercury and Hermes are the same person 🤣
4:40 But did she lie though, lol.
23:20 So I watched Season 5 like few years after it aired (still my first season, cause it was hard to pirate for free living in Europe). And for me Detox was fully just giving mint-oreo vibes.
Lady Godiva but balding fffffff I'm crying 😂😂😂
I have always loved to jinkx's candy cane look, but maybe it's just grown on me because of how many times I've seen that lip sync over the years.
Pink ladies in their 80s in the 80s
I hope yall mention that the reason that Absolut Vodka is no longer a sponsor is because they wanted Alaska to win, and Ru put her foot down and said Jinx would win.
actually they wanted roxxxy to win
I think Detox was saying “maj” a la Rachel Zoe. She references it and Rachel Zoe several times during the season. I always assumed it’s short for major?
From Race Chasers Jinkx said that early on they were all chatting about the lip sync song list and what they’d kill on and Jinkx said she’d be undefeatable on Malambo No 1. Then they changed the song from En Vogue to Malambo the day of when she and detox were in the bottom 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah, this was that weird little pocket of time where Rachel Zoe was a thing. Happens next season as well with Laganja doing Zoe for Snatch Game ... and then she just dropped off the face of the earth.
Even at the time I had no idea what she said... I thought it was just a weird muppet noise. Now the only thing Rachel Zoe seems to be doing is selling napkins at HomeGoods with Christian Sirianos Christmas tree skirts and Christian LaCroix fugly cheap Halloween decor.@@darkmask5933
lol those shorts are getting shorter.
Come awn Batman & Robin/Blonde Venus whole costume reference awareness redemption arc 🦍
If they DON’T lip sync “steamboat Willie” now…
this prompted me to go back and watch Jinx performing All that Jazz live after she won... Roxy was beyond delusional trying to convince Jinx she didn't deserve to win smdh
Dr. Frankincense!
When are we having the imho collab???
I thought Detox used to have some catchphrase where she said mesh all the time
Mesh is just a drag word they made up that means whatever you want it to in that moment
Werk
Sadly only 1 season left of What We Do in the Shadows! 🦇
Of course
I use ‘of course’ in my text messages, all, the, time. Nobody I know even watches drag race or movie bitches 😂😭
Lmao she should of said Meth 😂
I think there is a way to do “teen drag” as a look, but it relies on embracing the awkwardness of it. Like, when the actresses from Pen15 are their younger selves. Or Liam Kyle Sullivan as Kelly, and her shoes 👠. I think if you go that route it works. If that makes any sense.
As much as i like older seasons, i'd like to see some review of newer seasons tbh. Sucks that last ones were 13 and AS8 xd
New drag race kinda sucks tho? It’s the best reality tv show but it’s still gotten so homogenized and main stream
@@Paddrique not as much as people are saying, judging is awful and there's nit as much drama but queens are still good
Oh Detox sugar mama look is just her Nothing’s Gonna Stop me Now lip sync look
GloRu hole?
Even just recreating a famous speech from Drag Race ?
Yaaaas!
How did jinkx even win… shes so bad
She has real talent. Have you watched the all winner’s season? She killed it
Omg Roxxxy I'm such a huge fan of yours
I'm ready for my "I should not be watching this at work but I don't get paid enough" weekly upload 🩷🩷 I love you two for all the hours of entertainment I've got watching you, youre the best