Wax is like the duct tape of skateboarding - it will fix so many little issues so you should always have a chunk with you when you skate. The only issue with using it for the pivot cup squeaking is that it's a temporary fix, especially if you skate on a really hot day. For a long-term solution using auto grease works really well and if you're skating a truck with cheap "sticky" pivot cups (looking at you Tensor) it can make the trucks turn smoother. You can use speed cream too but be careful not to use too much or it will trap dirt and you'll get this nasty oil mud seeping out that will stain any fabric it touches.
@@HexYzeE I dunno man I can't think of any time I've ever thought "You know what these trucks need? Better pivot cups." I got a handful of Khiro soft ones a while back and put them in some of my trucks and to be totally honest if you asked me today I wouldn't be able to tell you which trucks have them vs the stock ones. I just can't justify $16 for an upgrade that I can't even feel, especially if its just to fix a problem that I can rectify in 15 seconds with a greasy qtip. I can understand if you're the type of person who cant sleep at night unless they know they have the best of everything, but for me I'd rather spend that money on a bushing upgrade or put it towards a new deck.
Been using GK since 1994 before most skateshops stop diatributing them. I am happy that they're back. GK innovated the first Allen Kingpin which makes smooth grinds hence king of grinds
This guy is so underrated he talks alittle funny but describes things so good and puts months and alot of hard work into his videos to make and he is a good skater and just helps things so much and gives advice and mentions things others don't say and if something sucks he in nice about it this guy is underrated
Man... all these years watching your Vancouver carpenter taping vids.... now I get the laid back vibe that came through, your a skater!!! Your awesome man!
Hey Ben, your videos are so awesome. All the questions I've ever wondered about sk8boards and all things sk8boarding you cover! It's great. A wealth of information. Thank you very much. Great channel bro!
I still have a set of grind kings that I rode when I lived over seas... they’re special! Still use the tool today! You keep this up you’re going to be riding for grind king!
GK was the most innovative in the 90's are from this review, they still are. Thanks Ben appreciate the vid. I'm so glad I can continue to ride GK after getting back into skating after 10 years. I love the inverted kingpin in the 90's. Indy truly half cooked there new design. GK have always had that sound when they grind butter smooth.
I love this channel but I have come to realize that all I need is a 8.625 deck, mob grip, Indy 159 forged hollow trucks, bones wheels STF or SPF, and some bones Swiss bearings. Thanks Ben for helping me find my perfect setup!
Thanks Ben! I used to skate GK exclusively. I’m on MagLights now but will definitely make this my next truck set now that you’ve given this solid review. Also, it makes sense that they work better (stock) for folks who like tighter trucks. That is definitely my preference and likely a quality that kept me riding them in the 90s through late 00s.
Ive been waiting a long time for someone to post this. I used to rock grind kings back in the day. The only downside was how easy the kingpin would strip.
So nice to see I’m not the only crazy person that obsesses over the idea of changing some minute detail of my setup, even if I have no real issue with the current setup. Something in me just wants to learn what happens with the change. It’s part of the fun.
I aint gonna lie ben, Ive been watching since back in the day at least a year or two back, and you are actually moving around pretty good on these. Of course I though you were moving around pretty good on the aces too, lol!
Thanks for reviewing these Ben. I rode Grind Kings for years back in the 90s and loved them, mostly because they were lightweight and perfect for smith and feeble grinds. I also learned crooked grinds on them. I'm not so sure I will like the new bushing design. Maybe they will flatten out a little after they're well broken-in. I will probably grab a pair just for the nostalgia.
Great vid as always Ben. Best info skate channel on you tube. Totally agree with bones bushings so much so that iv gone back to thunder bushings on my thunder trucks.
Grind kings were all I skated in the 90s and I loved them enough to take a few pairs down to the axel. I didn’t know they were still around, if I hadn’t bought a set of Reynolds Indy’s last week I’d have been all over these. I’m thinking about picking up a creature next, excited to hear your thoughts on it!
I've heard good things about the new Tensor ATG magnesiums, lightest truck on the market apparently. Would love to hear your opinion of them. Love the channel, another great review
The metal part in the bushing is like the hard urethane ones in bones bushings, they allow you to always have a solid connection with the bushing to the kingpin and hanger so it increases the rebound on them while also preventing wheel bite in some durometer's. If you want the same feel on other bushings try some array sleeved washers out. They're basically a washer with the insert piece machined into them, they're a bit expensive but they'll last pretty much forever. Still have a set I've using since 2016
Just use pen applicator knife oil for your pivot. It’s cheap and very low viscosity so you can add it as needed to your cups without taking your hangers off. It takes like 1-2 drops, doesn’t collect gunk over time like wax can and the tube will last you years.
Was really expecting you to not like them. Really says a lot that they’ve made it this far with you. Still want to see you try some ml trucks. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with them. That’s the coolest part about being an old skater. It’s so much fun to blame your setup cause we’ve got money now to try anything we want to try.
I love tight trucks and hate wheel bite... these might be for me! Next time I have disposable income I might grab a pair - thanks for the great vid as always, ben!
I've tried all the bones bushing hardnesses (for the hell of it) in 2 setups i have with indys, 149s and 159s, which feels kinda neat and nifty for 5minutes. But i always go back to the regular cylindrical/barrel bushing. Most of your weight is on that bottom bushing. I mainly ride the red 88a. While tinkering i stumbled onto a good bushing combo that actually worked surprisingly well... An orange 90a cylindrical bottom barrel bushing, with the top bushing switched out for a bones blue bottom bushing (so that's a mix of 2 large bottom bushings together). They just fit on there minus the washer, without mooshing the larger bones bushing down too much.
I notice you really pop and skate much better on these despite your love for Indy and thunder. It’s been 20 years since my grind king days, might have to try these out
Indy and thunder make 2 types of bushings and the “tapered” type would fit on those beauties really nicely. Really happy to hear your feedback on these cuz it’s long overdrew in the skateworld! Same here with the scientific analysis of skate parts and fabrication. Enjoy the weekend Eh! :)
These are tempting to me as a former long time krux fan, the easy mode smith grinds were my main draw for a while, rode lows for a while and then highs. What turned me off of krux was the durability of the part of baseplate that held the nut for the inverted kingpin. The nut used to start wiggling loose to the point that the whole kingpin would wiggle. I'd love an update on these trucks to see if the kingpin starts wiggling loose, its such a dealbreaker for me since it really ruins the turning (not that krux turn for shit anyway... lol). I've been mostly riding aces now on my regular setups for the super fast turning.
Inverted kingpins need to be the industry standard. The one thing holding back the Tensor Mag Light Lo as a perfect truck is the lack of an inverted hollow magnesium kingpin.
I remember the grindking hype in the 90s or early 2000’s. That kingpin style and the selling argument. Some people in my hometown got them and they sucked. Always some problems with them. Also i remember that they used to be anodized or something to give them a dark red hanger. The color theme was so of. I didn’t even know they still exist. :)
i was gonna buy these to try but they didn’t have the silver ones in my size. & i also didn’t like that i couldn’t find the height specs since i like lower trucks. so i decided to stick with my venture lo’s. i also remembered i actually like having the kingpin for grinds, it helps you lock into one side of the truck instead of just sliding over like when you were trying that fs 50 on the round flatbar. after seeing your review i am glad i didn’t buy any gk’s because of the 55mm height & because of what you were saying about the lack of wheelbite. i like a lower truck that wheelbites because it is mire stable feeling, helps me slow down when doing deep carves on hill bombs, & makes my grinds extra pinchy i hope they do well tho & make a low version
It's not just you haha I have the gear madness as well. As soon as I get frustrated with a pair of trucks, "Maybe this would feel better on [insert brand here]..." creeps into my head. At that point there's no turning back!
Ben your skateboard content is fucking awesome. Have you ever done a review on Crux because ever since I found out from your channel that Independence are no longer made in the states me and a whole bunch of my buddies are totally bugged out about it and I'm definitely looking for something made in the states I know that Crocs is actually going to basically under the same camp as independent but if they're still made in the state's I'm definitely interested in checking those bad boys. Thank you sir don't stop not stopping
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that non-stock bushings work well on these. I've been eyeing a pair for a while now, but they seem tricky to get hold of in Scotland.
I have never related to a video more then this my adhd prevents me from keeping a set of trucks for a long period of time if i get a different set in my head i will go a buy them 🤣🤣
i was raised on GK and really wanna try these, unfortunately my shop doesn't have any and i can only afford free product at the moment. i just remember breaking the kingpins, even though they were "unbreakable" ... and good luck finding a replacement allen kingpin
Great review as always Ben! My very first complete I got back in the day was on Grindkings, I'd love to try them out again! Can you tell me, what size allen head is needed to adjust the kingpin?
you should make an excel sheet with all the different sizes and dimensions of the different products you test. one with trucks and one with board wheel base and so on. would be great information to have around
Hi Ben, i can tell you that the bones hard bushing dont blow out out like the medium bushing(maybe with a lot of hour they blow out too) and with the medium on top you can have better turn .Nice to see Grind King coming back. When i decided to buy a complete to skate again i was asking to the skateshop the grind king trucks and they laugh lol beacause they stop doing them a lot of years before hahaha.
Oh ben. I could watch you crooked grind all day. I Just cannot get that trick dialed in. Everytime I start to get comfortable, I slip over the ledge and wreck my back foot 😭
Кино
Ben is good enough to flip out of grinds but still won't give us a video part....
lol
1 truck reivew, 2 deck reviews. I think there was even a dishwasher review in this one too. 4 reviews for the price of one!
and that's a pretty sweet deal 🥳
@@gabantromen Nobody beats it
I know this nigga lonely ass fuck
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He has a wife and kids as well as a full-time job. I don’t think Ben appears to be very lonely.
@@simplyfamilyent4346 lonely as fuck or a lonely ass fuck because I don't know how an ass fuck can be lonely
Man, waxing the pivot cup...I've been skating for decades and Ben has so many equipment hacks I've never heard of.
Wax is like the duct tape of skateboarding - it will fix so many little issues so you should always have a chunk with you when you skate. The only issue with using it for the pivot cup squeaking is that it's a temporary fix, especially if you skate on a really hot day. For a long-term solution using auto grease works really well and if you're skating a truck with cheap "sticky" pivot cups (looking at you Tensor) it can make the trucks turn smoother. You can use speed cream too but be careful not to use too much or it will trap dirt and you'll get this nasty oil mud seeping out that will stain any fabric it touches.
@@loveandnapalm Or check Riptide pivot cups, auto lubricated, but expensive, I bought some for indys, not disapointed :)
@@HexYzeE I dunno man I can't think of any time I've ever thought "You know what these trucks need? Better pivot cups." I got a handful of Khiro soft ones a while back and put them in some of my trucks and to be totally honest if you asked me today I wouldn't be able to tell you which trucks have them vs the stock ones. I just can't justify $16 for an upgrade that I can't even feel, especially if its just to fix a problem that I can rectify in 15 seconds with a greasy qtip. I can understand if you're the type of person who cant sleep at night unless they know they have the best of everything, but for me I'd rather spend that money on a bushing upgrade or put it towards a new deck.
@@loveandnapalm lmao, are u ok ?
You can also use just a drop of soap. But just like with wax, it’s not a permanent fix.
Been using GK since 1994 before most skateshops stop diatributing them. I am happy that they're back. GK innovated the first Allen Kingpin which makes smooth grinds hence king of grinds
This guy is so underrated he talks alittle funny but describes things so good and puts months and alot of hard work into his videos to make and he is a good skater and just helps things so much and gives advice and mentions things others don't say and if something sucks he in nice about it this guy is underrated
Maybe you talk a little funny?
It’s not funny it’s Canadian
Always liked grind kings so glad they're back and stoked you're digging that alien workshop. That's my go to board , they keep their pop.
Man... all these years watching your Vancouver carpenter taping vids.... now I get the laid back vibe that came through, your a skater!!! Your awesome man!
Glad that I recently discovered this channel, it's encouraging me to get back into shape and start skating again. Thanks for the review Ben
he did the same to me, got back in at 36 after 9 years break. now one year in at 37 I am getting some tricks back it's awesome
@@trupiil Nice! I'll be 30 soon, and I miss having skateboarding in my life. Nothing beats it, really
Love that GrindKing is back! I loved GrindKing trucks in the 90s 🤘😎🤘
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Dude!! You're the best! I've been waiting for someone to do a review on these forever now!!!
I love watching you doing crooked grinds, Ben. They're so smooth
You captured that grind noise so well. I love that sound. Slides sound nice too
Hey Ben, your videos are so awesome. All the questions I've ever wondered about sk8boards and all things sk8boarding you cover! It's great. A wealth of information. Thank you very much. Great channel bro!
you're seriously one of my top 3 all time fave youtubers
These look like awesome trucks! I’m soo stoked that they’re back in business and came out of the gates with an innovative product! Thumbs up for GK!!!
Great video as always Ben. Landed my second heelflip today and learned back 180 down drops.
I still have a set of grind kings that I rode when I lived over seas... they’re special! Still use the tool today!
You keep this up you’re going to be riding for grind king!
GK was the most innovative in the 90's are from this review, they still are. Thanks Ben appreciate the vid. I'm so glad I can continue to ride GK after getting back into skating after 10 years. I love the inverted kingpin in the 90's. Indy truly half cooked there new design. GK have always had that sound when they grind butter smooth.
I love this channel but I have come to realize that all I need is a 8.625 deck, mob grip, Indy 159 forged hollow trucks, bones wheels STF or SPF, and some bones Swiss bearings. Thanks Ben for helping me find my perfect setup!
A mans set up!
Greetings from another chronic truck swapper, always dig your videos, thanks mate.
Thanks Ben! I used to skate GK exclusively. I’m on MagLights now but will definitely make this my next truck set now that you’ve given this solid review. Also, it makes sense that they work better (stock) for folks who like tighter trucks. That is definitely my preference and likely a quality that kept me riding them in the 90s through late 00s.
Ive been waiting a long time for someone to post this. I used to rock grind kings back in the day. The only downside was how easy the kingpin would strip.
So nice to see I’m not the only crazy person that obsesses over the idea of changing some minute detail of my setup, even if I have no real issue with the current setup. Something in me just wants to learn what happens with the change. It’s part of the fun.
Love these videos, I may need to get some GK's for nostalgia sake alone, lol.
I aint gonna lie ben, Ive been watching since back in the day at least a year or two back, and you are actually moving around pretty good on these. Of course I though you were moving around pretty good on the aces too, lol!
Great review miss riding grind king might have to check these out
Nollie back heel at 5:25 was so perfect
Ye deadads
Thanks for reviewing these Ben. I rode Grind Kings for years back in the 90s and loved them, mostly because they were lightweight and perfect for smith and feeble grinds. I also learned crooked grinds on them. I'm not so sure I will like the new bushing design. Maybe they will flatten out a little after they're well broken-in. I will probably grab a pair just for the nostalgia.
Great vid as always Ben. Best info skate channel on you tube. Totally agree with bones bushings so much so that iv gone back to thunder bushings on my thunder trucks.
Thanks, Ben. I loved Grind King kingpins in my Indys back in the day and I’m glad these trucks are good.
Great idea. satisfying to watch u skate
Your an awesome skater. Amazing tricks solid style. I really enjoy watching your review.
Great review Ben, I used to love the old Grind Kings, gonna give the new ones a go after watching this.
He I have been waiting for this!! ...thank you
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I love mine gk tensor lo and venture superlight lows from back in the day were always my go to
Big up Satoshi.
Shalom
מה נשמע
The prophecy is true. Satoshi is a modern day Muhammed, a messenger from the true Grind King. Shalom.
Another amazing review, thank you!
Dude that opening heel flip and fro side flip. I’ve watched a lot of your videos I do t recall them being that high
I literally been contemplating this exact setup grind king w bones medium and ever slick now I know what im getting
If you get it let me know how it goes
Thanks for leaving the bails in your footage. Keeps it real and reminds us we’re not alone. Lol
Grind kings were all I skated in the 90s and I loved them enough to take a few pairs down to the axel. I didn’t know they were still around, if I hadn’t bought a set of Reynolds Indy’s last week I’d have been all over these. I’m thinking about picking up a creature next, excited to hear your thoughts on it!
I might have to give these a shot! I trust Ben.
when I used to skate, between like 1998 to 2008 I always rode grind king and 7.75 mini logo board
Had Grind King bolts back in the late 80s and they were great.
Wow, didn't expect this review so fast - well done! Btw: Try Indy Conical bushings :)
Indy conical would probably be👌
Or long board bushings,some go by weight,and color coded.
I've heard good things about the new Tensor ATG magnesiums, lightest truck on the market apparently. Would love to hear your opinion of them. Love the channel, another great review
Thanks Ben. Someone also suggested a drop of Speed Cream in the pivot cup. Works great.
I want a Ben Degros pro model with that gold smiley face graphic. Looks like something FA would make.
🙂
The metal part in the bushing is like the hard urethane ones in bones bushings, they allow you to always have a solid connection with the bushing to the kingpin and hanger so it increases the rebound on them while also preventing wheel bite in some durometer's. If you want the same feel on other bushings try some array sleeved washers out. They're basically a washer with the insert piece machined into them, they're a bit expensive but they'll last pretty much forever. Still have a set I've using since 2016
Just use pen applicator knife oil for your pivot. It’s cheap and very low viscosity so you can add it as needed to your cups without taking your hangers off. It takes like 1-2 drops, doesn’t collect gunk over time like wax can and the tube will last you years.
I have been waiting for this review....thank you been
Your welcome!
Was really expecting you to not like them. Really says a lot that they’ve made it this far with you.
Still want to see you try some ml trucks. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with them.
That’s the coolest part about being an old skater. It’s so much fun to blame your setup cause we’ve got money now to try anything we want to try.
Best truck review on RUclips
so hype for you on the 9 club !
I love tight trucks and hate wheel bite... these might be for me! Next time I have disposable income I might grab a pair - thanks for the great vid as always, ben!
Been waiting for this one!
you should do tensor mag lights as your next truck and the new ricta rapidos for wheels, but great content as always, keep it up!!
Happy Saturday to you too Ben!!!!!
I've tried all the bones bushing hardnesses (for the hell of it) in 2 setups i have with indys, 149s and 159s, which feels kinda neat and nifty for 5minutes. But i always go back to the regular cylindrical/barrel bushing. Most of your weight is on that bottom bushing. I mainly ride the red 88a. While tinkering i stumbled onto a good bushing combo that actually worked surprisingly well... An orange 90a cylindrical bottom barrel bushing, with the top bushing switched out for a bones blue bottom bushing (so that's a mix of 2 large bottom bushings together). They just fit on there minus the washer, without mooshing the larger bones bushing down too much.
While you were trying the nose slide heel flip out of the curve ledge. I was hoping you’d do a crook heel flip. Next level control man.
Love the fact that there is a new deck like every cut
that squeak is exactly like i remember! i never realized how specific is was until i heard it again.
Hey Indy dose have conical shaped bushings , but grind king always was great glad they remade some
I notice you really pop and skate much better on these despite your love for Indy and thunder.
It’s been 20 years since my grind king days, might have to try these out
When I skated I had grind Kings and doh doh super hard bushings an tight trucks and I love the reverse King pin
Indy and thunder make 2 types of bushings and the “tapered” type would fit on those beauties really nicely. Really happy to hear your feedback on these cuz it’s long overdrew in the skateworld! Same here with the scientific analysis of skate parts and fabrication. Enjoy the weekend Eh! :)
gave u a like just for reviewing these! thx
Great review 👍👍
These are tempting to me as a former long time krux fan, the easy mode smith grinds were my main draw for a while, rode lows for a while and then highs. What turned me off of krux was the durability of the part of baseplate that held the nut for the inverted kingpin. The nut used to start wiggling loose to the point that the whole kingpin would wiggle. I'd love an update on these trucks to see if the kingpin starts wiggling loose, its such a dealbreaker for me since it really ruins the turning (not that krux turn for shit anyway... lol). I've been mostly riding aces now on my regular setups for the super fast turning.
Inverted kingpins need to be the industry standard. The one thing holding back the Tensor Mag Light Lo as a perfect truck is the lack of an inverted hollow magnesium kingpin.
I remember the grindking hype in the 90s or early 2000’s. That kingpin style and the selling argument. Some people in my hometown got them and they sucked. Always some problems with them. Also i remember that they used to be anodized or something to give them a dark red hanger. The color theme was so of. I didn’t even know they still exist. :)
Saturday morning Ben Degros! I’m like an 80’s kid with Saturday morning cartoons.
Awesome review. Would be cool if you reviewed the tensor all terrain geometry trucks!
i was gonna buy these to try but they didn’t have the silver ones in my size. & i also didn’t like that i couldn’t find the height specs since i like lower trucks. so i decided to stick with my venture lo’s. i also remembered i actually like having the kingpin for grinds, it helps you lock into one side of the truck instead of just sliding over like when you were trying that fs 50 on the round flatbar.
after seeing your review i am glad i didn’t buy any gk’s because of the 55mm height & because of what you were saying about the lack of wheelbite. i like a lower truck that wheelbites because it is mire stable feeling, helps me slow down when doing deep carves on hill bombs, & makes my grinds extra pinchy
i hope they do well tho & make a low version
It's not just you haha I have the gear madness as well. As soon as I get frustrated with a pair of trucks, "Maybe this would feel better on [insert brand here]..." creeps into my head. At that point there's no turning back!
Did this review disrupt my sleep..... Yes it most certainly did although I don’t mind it’s a new Ben Degros upload. 👍😀
😂
As always great content. Thanks Ben from a born again skater
Thank you Peter!!
GRIND KINGS Are a awsome truck from da 90's .. glad to see their back gonna buy them in raw silver
6:23 a notification ping alerted and i couldn’t fucking stop laughing
Been waiting for this one.
Ben your skateboard content is fucking awesome. Have you ever done a review on Crux because ever since I found out from your channel that Independence are no longer made in the states me and a whole bunch of my buddies are totally bugged out about it and I'm definitely looking for something made in the states I know that Crocs is actually going to basically under the same camp as independent but if they're still made in the state's I'm definitely interested in checking those bad boys. Thank you sir don't stop not stopping
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that non-stock bushings work well on these. I've been eyeing a pair for a while now, but they seem tricky to get hold of in Scotland.
0:54 that heelflip was dope!
Going back to my roots, grindking got to get some 😍
I like the way you customized the lithe deck hahahaaa
Great review, as usual 👍you should definitely try and review the Theeve Tiax.
That's will be so interesting to see. Since no any real reviews about them
I have never related to a video more then this my adhd prevents me from keeping a set of trucks for a long period of time if i get a different set in my head i will go a buy them 🤣🤣
i was raised on GK and really wanna try these, unfortunately my shop doesn't have any and i can only afford free product at the moment. i just remember breaking the kingpins, even though they were "unbreakable" ... and good luck finding a replacement allen kingpin
Love my GK disruptors !
Grind king trucks have always been my favorite! All of mine was always squeaky though but it never bothered me.
Ima skater /contractor. I think that’s so cool you’re like my carbon copy 😂😂nyc love 💪🏾
Great review as always Ben! My very first complete I got back in the day was on Grindkings, I'd love to try them out again!
Can you tell me, what size allen head is needed to adjust the kingpin?
These things are focking noice dude they're high up and turn very well and precise. Indys are much looser but these feel better.
you should make an excel sheet with all the different sizes and dimensions of the different products you test. one with trucks and one with board wheel base and so on. would be great information to have around
Hi Ben, i can tell you that the bones hard bushing dont blow out out like the medium bushing(maybe with a lot of hour they blow out too) and with the medium on top you can have better turn .Nice to see Grind King coming back. When i decided to buy a complete to skate again i was asking to the skateshop the grind king trucks and they laugh lol beacause they stop doing them a lot of years before hahaha.
🙂
Awesome review! Have you checked out tensor yet? I’m loving those with the bones bushings
Oh ben. I could watch you crooked grind all day. I Just cannot get that trick dialed in. Everytime I start to get comfortable, I slip over the ledge and wreck my back foot 😭
Son is mad informative
Those look sick
Best reviewer!