I'm surprised at the rating for the clip from Nope. While chimps in the wild are not like this at all, that's not the context for the clip. The movie is focused on the themes of trapping and confining wild creatures for entertainment and profit by humans. And instances of violence by chimps in captivity, especially when people keep them as pets, have happened and have been extremely violent and deadly. So I understand not wanting to condone an image of chimps as violent and deadly and dangerous when in the wild as they should be, but I don't think that the evidence agrees that chimps are totally safe when kept as pets or entertainment.
i guess she thought of the clip from Nope depicting apes as horrible aggressive creatures which also demonizes them. but I didn’t get that at all when I watched the movie, I thought the message was loud and clear that people should respect wild animals and shouldn’t be milked for our entertainment
@@seanbrazell7095 Honestly I can respect a professional wanting to clarify when something's portraying their profession in a negative light, especially when that profession is animal preservation. I just think when she was given the clip she wasn't given the context to the scene, which would have benefitted greatly
Not really. He is too big to climb the building. She gives about the real size of a gorilla. How real is it ? Gorillas are not prone to attack people, but he jumped on the airplane. King Kong is not real. What do you want more ?
She thought Koko the gorilla spoke. Not violent, there’s a reason males have that muscular as high metabolism debt cost, and giant canines. Women can’t be scientists proven as only about three of merit inventive. My genetics teacher was a freak of nature had a mother didn’t let genius be destroyed. She’s a knucklewalker/dragger. Mud Sharking, no wild animal cares about other species or non kin, this is idiocy.
the attack was unique and unusual and the result of Travis's lifelong abuse and isolation. He was also given xanax, wine, was overweight and unhealthy and was the victim of very inappropriate behaviour from his owner. He was also known to drive a car. Xanax can have the adverse effect of agression. His case is really sad and tragic. I have no idea why anyone would want to have a damn chimpanzee in their house, it should be severely punished. This attack would not happen anywhere but in this specific case. No ape should be kept as a pet. Honestly he was innocent and the tragedy is the fault of the deranged owner, he was a wild animal. She should have known better and is at fault of the attack.
@langustajableczna no one is disputing that, just pointing out that these things do happen or can happen, so for the expert to say they don't is ridiculous
@@ThePaganDruid idk if the movie doesn’t recreate everything extremely well then it’s bad because every single part of Travis’s life had an impact on the attack
It's as if she's never watched any of these movies. "Caesar's eyes almost look human-like" WELL YEAH LADY, it's literally one of the main plot points in the movie.
Shes not even a expert, she thinks a chimp could be an adult human male. Chimps are pound for pound 1.5 times stronger, whats the weight difference between a human male that is physically good vs a normal chimp?
Also, in the POTA movies she isn’t taking into account the virus that affected the behavior of the apes and Cesar. In the movies the gorillas are the protectors/muscle, the chimps are the hunters and workers, and the orangutans are the teachers.
This is the first video from Insider I’ve ever seen where I don’t understand the guest’s rating. I’m not discounting her credibility or knowledge of apes, but is she just going off her liking of the film’s mentioned? Not wanting to condone certain acts depicted? Like what?! Just stick to the facts of ape behavior in the clips.
Yeah, she gave it a 0 because she didn't like the way the scene made the chimp look bad. But also said that it's rare but has happened. So just listen to her knowledge and ignore the rating.
her saying anything above 0/10 goes against her whole agenda. i think we all virtually agree that we shouldn’t poach apes and should protect them. chimp behavior in their natural habitat and chimp behavior whilst neglected in captivity are 2 different things.
This has gotta be one of the most biased reviews Insiders ever had. She admits to how strong and aggressive chimps can be but then says she doesn’t like how it’s portrayed
I completely agree. There are way too many incidents that prove how aggressive chimps really are. I get to credit the RUclipsr, Casual Geographic, for my new found fear of chimps.
Do you people just make idle claims? Or do you question the foundation for things , like what the humans involved were doing to agitate a wild animal. Somehow there's always a camera around soon as the chimp is about to get violent ...hmmmmmmmm
She lost a bit of cred with me too, because chimps obviously ARE prone to violence. Especially in captivity, exactly like the movie was showing. And she gives it a zero yet some fake, animated Tarzan BS gets a higher rating? Ok, right.
There is a difference between being violent and being unpredictable, they're unpredictable. There are plenty of cases of humans doing violence does that mean humans as a whole are prone to violence?
The chimp scene from "Nope" getting a 0 is kinda off the point I'd reckon. I used to work in a French school in DR Congo, and one of my colleague was only a teacher to pay the bills. His and his wife's main focus was a chimp' sanctuary. So basically he would try and rescue chimpanzees in the area, mostly young ones who had escaped poachers, some who had escaped hunters, and adults who had been taken by rich idiots as pets. Those last ones were the worst, and most dangerous. He used to tell us of one chimp' in particular, who had been abused so much he was half mad by the point he rescued him (dressed in human clothing, not enough space to live in, bad food for a chimpanzee, alcohol, and even cocaine...). One day, that particular individual escaped from the sanctuary, and began a frenzy through the city : crossing roads, throwing things at cars and people, running wild in the streets... He ended up in the maternity ward of the local hospital (a half-crazed chimpanzee on a frenzy in the middle of cradles...scary thing !). The police wanted to shoot it, they were discouraged from doing so. Eventually, he charged my colleague, full speed. The dude stood his ground, hands on hips, and the chimp' just stopped, which gave a vet' enough time to finally aim right and tranquilize him. Earlier, when his wife had tried to calm down the animal, he had bitten her on the face, and luckily she "only" had a single serious cut (which gave her a small scar). They told me an angry chimpanzee could break a human skull with his hands if it wanted to... Most of the times, what they found were dead or wounded chimpanzees when those encountered poachers or hunters, but sometimes the poachers would actually be killed, and apparently what a band of angry chimps' do to a human is not a pretty sight. All in all, treating a chimpanzee, with the strength is has, as anything other than an actual chimpanzee, is a very bad idea, and someone getting hurt is then only a logical result. So the movie might not sell us the "good ape" side of the story, but the chimp's behaviour in that instance kinda makes sense...
i think her point was to prove that they aren’t like that by their own volition. i agree that it is against the whole video to further her agenda. a tortured chimpanzee which is made to be a party trick is certainly capable of that, as you explained.
@@LodedKingpiinbut even thats wrong. Chimps in nature are extremely violent towards other groups of chimps. They tear off each others limbs and even perform cannibalism. I love chimpanzees, they’re fascinating animals, but to say they aren’t violent is just wrong. They can do horrible things, even in nature, especially in nature.
@workout1302 Yes, I agree. The context of the movie needs to be considered though. I saw another guest saying that a sequence is not accurate but acknowledged it's a film. He liked one of his lowest rated scenes because he enjoyed watching it
Totally biased. Just look up real ape attacks, and you'll be mindblown of what they'll do. The worst injuries I've heard of humans inflicting on other humans without tools were amputation of nose, fingers, nipples, lips, genitalia, even a pulled out womb. However, such cases are few and far between and we have almost 8 billion humans and will report on any such horrific attack. Chimpanzees on the other hand will dish out such injuries on a regular basis...
Well Koba had been very painfully experimented on and treated horribly so yeah, he's much more aggressive than a regular bonobo would be. Also, the apes are all housed together because the place is absolutely terrible. It's not as if they were in a high end zoo. And there's also the fact that the apes in this situation have been medically altered to be more intelligent. As in intelligent enough to realize that cooperating will help them escape. I just don't understand the majority of her ratings, most experts allow the context of the movie or show to have an impact on how they're viewed. Just my opinion obviously.
Downvoted for her downvoting the scene with a real monkey. She was hired to rate the movie scenes, not to pass moral judgement on the use of animals in movies. If she rated it fairly, but then noted her moral judgement, that is another thing altogether
Gorillas arent often depicted as being gentle and nurturing. Literally the king kong movie is all about him being gentle and nuturing and misunderstood. Its ironic for an "expert" argue against harmful stereotypes yet have a stereotypical view of hollywood.
You didnt listen, she explicitly mentioned this quality of the movie. Also, like so many others, you didnt get the premise of these videos: How realistic is it? She gave all the stuff that isnt realistic a low score, as she was asked to do. If nothing else, enjoy the quality information she provided, as opposed to grieving over a bad rating for one or another movie you like.
@@Ganiscol Except Nope got a score of zero despite being based on something that actually happened. You can't give something a zero for being unrealistic when it literally happened.
@@Ganiscol If I told you your reenactment of Julius Caser was spot on, excellent, best ever done, but then said I personally hate the Romans so because of that I have to give you a zero grade, is that a fair assessment of your acting?
Gives Jumanji a very low score because the mandrills don’t act appropriately. Yet gives Tarzan a high score despite it also having a mob of mandrills also acting inappropriately. Let this be her first and last appearance on here.
"the monkeys are real and have no place in the entertainment industry, 0/10" bruh what? What does that have to do with the behaviour of the monkeys or how they are portrayed????
a 0 for Nope? kinda crazy but i do see her perspective from a wild chimp but from one that’s been forced to do acting work & that has been agitated so much to the point where it’s ripping a humans face off? there has absolutely been cases of chimps doing exactly THAT. but it doesn’t make me hate them, it makes me appreciate & respect their space even more
Even with the wild ones it doesn't make sense. Power struggles lead to non-consensual castration and missing fingers. Territory disputes lead to wars. He'll, Jane Goodall herself nearly got beaten to death by one. The same one that would later kill and eat a human baby. Chimps are 100% about that action.
Wild chimps are also highly aggressive and violent. Have you seen what happens when two chimp groups cross paths in the jungle? The outcome isn’t pretty.
This is literally the type of expert reacts videos I despise 😤 Lady, we KNOW these are fictional, we KNOW Kong does not and cannot exist, we KNOW its unlikely a human could be raised by apes Not discrediting what she knows but to basically discredit the work of Terry Notary and Andy Serkis and others who have painstakingly studied these animals to get their portrayals accurate is frankly insulting, Serkis did not spend so much time with gorillas to get Kong as real as he could for King Kong 2005 just to have some boffin say "that's not real, that can't happen" And need I say more about the stupid remarks and ratings for Nope and Night At The Museum? This is why the expert react series with Jonathan Ferguson (keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history) is the best because he knows when something is fictional and will actually praise what devs do while pointing out inaccuracies
I don't understand her scoring criteria. She talks about how several aspects of each are realistic or not, but doesn't assign the score based on the accuracy of the behaviors. Seemingly, she scores based on how those behaviors get portrayed, or even the impression they form with the audience. The capuchin monkeys from Night at the Museum was the most confusing, since she explained that every one of the behaviors exhibited by the monkeys was accurate to wild capuchins, but since she disagreed with live monkeys being used in the entertainment industry, the film got 0/10. It's odd that a PhD Fulbright Scholar and National Science Foundation fellow would have so much trouble understanding this assignment.
Maybe because this assignment doesn't mean sense. Most of the movie are totally unrealistic. The rate in itself doesn't mean sense. Most of shark movies are stupid too.
The interesting thing about Nope is that when Gordy discovers Jupe hiding under the table, he actually signs “What happened family?”, implying that he wasn’t aware of what he had just done
What do you know the "expert" is wrong again Bonobos are not aggressive really a new study publishing April 12 2024 in the journal Current Biology shows that, within their own communities, male bonobos are more frequently aggressive than male chimpanzees. For both species, the more aggressive males had more mating opportunities. They also noted that female bonobos and chimpanzees are not passive and also display aggression, the researchers found that male bonobos were more frequently aggressive than chimpanzees. Overall, bonobos engaged in 2.8 times more aggressive interactions and 3 times as many physical aggressions. While male bonobos were almost exclusively aggressive toward other males, chimpanzees acted aggressively toward females as well as males. Chimpanzee aggression was also more likely to involve "coalitions" of males, rather than just one on one violence.
People are complaining about her ratings but, whatever problems there may be with those, she does a really good job explaining why a scene may or may not be realistic.
Kong in the Godzilla Kong movies shouldn't even be part of the discussion here. Hes not a gorilla, and he's so far beyond the intelligence and characteristics of a real life ape that discussing his realism is a waste of time.
Enjoy the video and learning about apes - but doing “reviews” and rankings of movies doesn’t really make any sense here since most of these movies are showing some sort of an extreme example or modified/ape like creature Probably would’ve worked better if she just kind of reacted and commented
I think she's a bit to biased in her love for apes which is valid.. but I wouldn't say chimps are not prone to violence probably one of the most violent apes. seen documentary where they brutally fight between themself and attack and kill other chimps brutally to the point of torture and than most horrific attacks on humans were also done by chimps.. I enjoyed the video for the insight and knowledge about apes but the rating system was off..
I always hate when experts are like " they are not naturally violent " With animals, groups or people with conditions... the movies almost always make it clear these are unique circumstances Just because the average gorillas pretty chill means nothing regarding kimg kong reacting violently when he has been kidnapped
So what I learned today is that when we make movies about animals doing things those animals have never done, like take over the world, those movies aren’t realistic. Say it ain’t so.
I watched a RUclips documentary presentation of an unusual circumstance of baby chimpanzees interacting/playing baboon babies and their troop. The mother chimpanzees kept a close eye on the interaction until it became slightly more aggressive. Playtime broke up.
I think the video would work a lot better without the numerical rating because it is unclear if Mayor is rating based on her preferences for the movie / scenes or based on how realistic the scenes are or how probable she finds the scenes.
I think you should have checked out the other 2 King Kong films. There’s the original from 1933, and the bizarre (but fun) remake from 1976. In both of those films, Kong’s size changes throughout the settings. Like, in the original, he’s 18ft on his home island (known as Skull Island after its most famous mountain), and 24ft in New York. The director made this decision so Kong could stand out amongst the skyscrapers that NYC is known for. And, in the ‘76 remake, he’s 42ft on Skull Mountain Island, and 55ft in NYC. Plus, he climbs the original World Trade Centre instead of the Empire State Building.
I remembered when i used to work as a zookeeper, I'm in charge for the reptiles, so i didn't know much about apes but once i saw they're fighting and one of the ape just help his hand up and all of them went quiet. It's an interesting thing to observe.
In the Planet of the Apes movies, I interpreted the change in their eyes looking more human was to make them appear more intelligent to the audience. Also, Koba was a severely abused test subject by humans. Although he is portrayed as a bad guy, his anger is well earned.
- 00:32 3/10 "King Kong" (2005) - 02:23 0/10 "Nope" (2022) - 04:32 10/10 "Tarzan" (1999) - 06:03 2/10 "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" - 08:28 1/10 "Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire" - 10:19 9/10 "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes" - 13:40 2/10 "Jumanji: The Next Level" - 15:18 5/10 "2001: A Space Odyssey" - 17:36 0/10 "Night at the Museum" - 18:42 1/10 "The Jungle Book" (2016)
I respect her giving the film 0/10--she brought attention to the issue of monkeys in the entertainment industry, and, ya know, I needed to hear that. Learned a lot--thank you!
I really enjoyed this video, Mireya gave so much educational information! Yes the primates act wrong in movies, and yes they are movies, but you really can't complain about how much information Mireya gave us and how interesting it was to learn! I love primates, and learning things I never knew when watching this video was amazing! Thank you Mireya!!
They could’ve just gotten me to do this video if all I had to do was based these movies on whether or not I liked them instead of actual facts and accuracy
I really enjoyed the video that you presented that you described what actual primate activity is versus Hollywood fantasy. I appreciate your knowledge and experience as always Dr. sweets Mireya!! Love Ya 🤗♥️
I'm surprised at the rating for the clip from Nope. While chimps in the wild are not like this at all, that's not the context for the clip. The movie is focused on the themes of trapping and confining wild creatures for entertainment and profit by humans. And instances of violence by chimps in captivity, especially when people keep them as pets, have happened and have been extremely violent and deadly. So I understand not wanting to condone an image of chimps as violent and deadly and dangerous when in the wild as they should be, but I don't think that the evidence agrees that chimps are totally safe when kept as pets or entertainment.
And the film even agrees with what she says about apes in the entertainment industry.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the chimp in Nope CGI?
@@nightwish7074yup it was completely CGI
i guess she thought of the clip from Nope depicting apes as horrible aggressive creatures which also demonizes them. but I didn’t get that at all when I watched the movie, I thought the message was loud and clear that people should respect wild animals and shouldn’t be milked for our entertainment
But the message! As if that is what she was supposed to rate. Ugh.
@@seanbrazell7095 Honestly I can respect a professional wanting to clarify when something's portraying their profession in a negative light, especially when that profession is animal preservation. I just think when she was given the clip she wasn't given the context to the scene, which would have benefitted greatly
Insider doesn't usually swing and miss with their guests. This guest was a big whiff.
These expert react things are so weird. Like obviously King Kong is too big to be a real ape, that's not the point.
Not really. He is too big to climb the building. She gives about the real size of a gorilla. How real is it ? Gorillas are not prone to attack people, but he jumped on the airplane. King Kong is not real. What do you want more ?
😂😂😂😂
Lmaooo mad cuz the expert said that’s not realistic is the weird take
She thought Koko the gorilla spoke. Not violent, there’s a reason males have that muscular as high metabolism debt cost, and giant canines. Women can’t be scientists proven as only about three of merit inventive. My genetics teacher was a freak of nature had a mother didn’t let genius be destroyed. She’s a knucklewalker/dragger. Mud Sharking, no wild animal cares about other species or non kin, this is idiocy.
She is so serious, the only reason she as got a smile on her fizzogg is because it's set in cement.
Really interesting video, but really, I don't even know what she's ranking at this point. Could might as well be the producers' error
"a very accurate depiction, however i dont like the movie 0/10"
her credibility is lost
@@folarinosibodushe only said that because she didn’t like that they used real monkeys in the movie
@@tobiasedwards2643 They actually didn’t, it was all CGI!
**cough** stereotypes **cough**
@@TheRealDismantler I’m talking about Night at The Museum.
She gave Nope a 0/10 but does she know that a chimp actually mauled a woman’s face in real life?
And then she gives Tarzan 10/10 😭??
I'm glad u made that point about that woman who got attacked by her friends chimp
the attack was unique and unusual and the result of Travis's lifelong abuse and isolation. He was also given xanax, wine, was overweight and unhealthy and was the victim of very inappropriate behaviour from his owner. He was also known to drive a car. Xanax can have the adverse effect of agression. His case is really sad and tragic. I have no idea why anyone would want to have a damn chimpanzee in their house, it should be severely punished. This attack would not happen anywhere but in this specific case. No ape should be kept as a pet. Honestly he was innocent and the tragedy is the fault of the deranged owner, he was a wild animal. She should have known better and is at fault of the attack.
@langustajableczna no one is disputing that, just pointing out that these things do happen or can happen, so for the expert to say they don't is ridiculous
She also said she doesn't like the message it's sending, but the whole message of the movie is don't exploit animals!
@@ThePaganDruid idk if the movie doesn’t recreate everything extremely well then it’s bad because every single part of Travis’s life had an impact on the attack
It's as if she's never watched any of these movies. "Caesar's eyes almost look human-like" WELL YEAH LADY, it's literally one of the main plot points in the movie.
Yeah, that was the way to visually show that he is mutated and has human level intelligence.
Clearly an expert but she’s not rating any of this on realism just how much she likes the film.
Expert on feelz.
Shes not even a expert, she thinks a chimp could be an adult human male. Chimps are pound for pound 1.5 times stronger, whats the weight difference between a human male that is physically good vs a normal chimp?
Also, in the POTA movies she isn’t taking into account the virus that affected the behavior of the apes and Cesar. In the movies the gorillas are the protectors/muscle, the chimps are the hunters and workers, and the orangutans are the teachers.
she's rating it upon her knowledge.
@@orangewarm1”I don’t like the message so I’m going to give it a zero” sounds likes she’s not basing it off of her knowledge
The title says ape attacks and the one clip they show of an ape attacking a human she gives a zero for being to violent.
U dont listen to sh
This is the first video from Insider I’ve ever seen where I don’t understand the guest’s rating. I’m not discounting her credibility or knowledge of apes, but is she just going off her liking of the film’s mentioned? Not wanting to condone certain acts depicted? Like what?! Just stick to the facts of ape behavior in the clips.
It’s a fun video . I can see the confusion as to the purpose but there was lots to learn and it was delivered in a fun way.
It's not that deep incels
almost as if the point of these videos wasn't the rating but to hear experts talk about their field
@@PeterChamor4???? Stop being a troll
@@duh990 cope
Is the expert giving rating based on her experience and facts or her feelings for the movie?
frl, how did 'nope' get a 0/10 when chimps do stuff like that all the time
Yeah, she gave it a 0 because she didn't like the way the scene made the chimp look bad. But also said that it's rare but has happened. So just listen to her knowledge and ignore the rating.
her saying anything above 0/10 goes against her whole agenda. i think we all virtually agree that we shouldn’t poach apes and should protect them. chimp behavior in their natural habitat and chimp behavior whilst neglected in captivity are 2 different things.
@@LodedKingpiin in natural habitat they rip eachothers nuts off
Nope is the only realistic scene in these films and it gets a 0. I don't get it at all
Ok, but that chimp attack was based on an actual captive chimp's attack of his owner.
How real is it: I disagree with the message so 0/10
The name is "how real is " NOT "how i feel about".
0/10 on the chimp in Nope, huh? Mean while Travis the chimp mauling Charla Nash....
Agendas
this woman sucks!
That’s what I thought yeah
She does indeed @@stevefrank3599
Exactly, on top of that, Nope is essentially entirely about animal abuse in the film industry
I can't believe she gave a zero to Nope. I know it's not good for chimp PR, but, we've seen chimps in captivity brutally attack people.
I thought Nope was about black people.
@@MS-ii1svtf
Of course, but the movie exaggerated that primitive violence for shocking effect .
This has gotta be one of the most biased reviews Insiders ever had. She admits to how strong and aggressive chimps can be but then says she doesn’t like how it’s portrayed
I understand she's considered an expert, but she lost all credibility with me when she claimed chimps aren't prone to violence.
I agree. Chimps can be incredibly violent and I would never trust one.
I completely agree. There are way too many incidents that prove how aggressive chimps really are. I get to credit the RUclipsr, Casual Geographic, for my new found fear of chimps.
Do you people just make idle claims? Or do you question the foundation for things , like what the humans involved were doing to agitate a wild animal. Somehow there's always a camera around soon as the chimp is about to get violent ...hmmmmmmmm
She lost a bit of cred with me too, because chimps obviously ARE prone to violence. Especially in captivity, exactly like the movie was showing. And she gives it a zero yet some fake, animated Tarzan BS gets a higher rating? Ok, right.
There is a difference between being violent and being unpredictable, they're unpredictable. There are plenty of cases of humans doing violence does that mean humans as a whole are prone to violence?
The chimp scene from "Nope" getting a 0 is kinda off the point I'd reckon.
I used to work in a French school in DR Congo, and one of my colleague was only a teacher to pay the bills. His and his wife's main focus was a chimp' sanctuary. So basically he would try and rescue chimpanzees in the area, mostly young ones who had escaped poachers, some who had escaped hunters, and adults who had been taken by rich idiots as pets. Those last ones were the worst, and most dangerous.
He used to tell us of one chimp' in particular, who had been abused so much he was half mad by the point he rescued him (dressed in human clothing, not enough space to live in, bad food for a chimpanzee, alcohol, and even cocaine...). One day, that particular individual escaped from the sanctuary, and began a frenzy through the city : crossing roads, throwing things at cars and people, running wild in the streets... He ended up in the maternity ward of the local hospital (a half-crazed chimpanzee on a frenzy in the middle of cradles...scary thing !).
The police wanted to shoot it, they were discouraged from doing so. Eventually, he charged my colleague, full speed. The dude stood his ground, hands on hips, and the chimp' just stopped, which gave a vet' enough time to finally aim right and tranquilize him.
Earlier, when his wife had tried to calm down the animal, he had bitten her on the face, and luckily she "only" had a single serious cut (which gave her a small scar). They told me an angry chimpanzee could break a human skull with his hands if it wanted to... Most of the times, what they found were dead or wounded chimpanzees when those encountered poachers or hunters, but sometimes the poachers would actually be killed, and apparently what a band of angry chimps' do to a human is not a pretty sight.
All in all, treating a chimpanzee, with the strength is has, as anything other than an actual chimpanzee, is a very bad idea, and someone getting hurt is then only a logical result. So the movie might not sell us the "good ape" side of the story, but the chimp's behaviour in that instance kinda makes sense...
i think her point was to prove that they aren’t like that by their own volition. i agree that it is against the whole video to further her agenda. a tortured chimpanzee which is made to be a party trick is certainly capable of that, as you explained.
@@LodedKingpiinbut even thats wrong. Chimps in nature are extremely violent towards other groups of chimps. They tear off each others limbs and even perform cannibalism. I love chimpanzees, they’re fascinating animals, but to say they aren’t violent is just wrong. They can do horrible things, even in nature, especially in nature.
I wish you would rate it on the accuracy not her emotions/opinions
Seriously, the chimp attack was literally based on an irl attack on a human.
Giving it a zero is just denying reality.
Exactly! This isn't the first guest that's done this, but I found this person annoying
I feel the Dr. rated it in accuracy, not emotion.
@workout1302 Yes, I agree. The context of the movie needs to be considered though. I saw another guest saying that a sequence is not accurate but acknowledged it's a film. He liked one of his lowest rated scenes because he enjoyed watching it
She was the one rating it.
So you're telling me King Kong is fiction... ?
King Kong's movie is fiction, but
Gigantopithex.
King Kong was real.
Mayor's Rubric:
Apes Good: 10
Apes Bad: 0
Totally biased. Just look up real ape attacks, and you'll be mindblown of what they'll do.
The worst injuries I've heard of humans inflicting on other humans without tools were amputation of nose, fingers, nipples, lips, genitalia, even a pulled out womb. However, such cases are few and far between and we have almost 8 billion humans and will report on any such horrific attack.
Chimpanzees on the other hand will dish out such injuries on a regular basis...
I don’t think she understood the assignment.
She did exactly what she was supposed to do and because she is human she has an opinion and a desire to express it.
@@eternalnate Except: she was supposed to rate it from how accurate it was not if she liked the film or not
@@Kyoryu_Unshaken And she did. So she did understand the assignment
@@eternalnate She said it was accurate but rated it off if she liked the film or not that was not what she was supposed to do
@@Kyoryu_Unshaken but yet she got it complete si?
Well Koba had been very painfully experimented on and treated horribly so yeah, he's much more aggressive than a regular bonobo would be. Also, the apes are all housed together because the place is absolutely terrible. It's not as if they were in a high end zoo. And there's also the fact that the apes in this situation have been medically altered to be more intelligent. As in intelligent enough to realize that cooperating will help them escape. I just don't understand the majority of her ratings, most experts allow the context of the movie or show to have an impact on how they're viewed. Just my opinion obviously.
A 10 for Tarzán,but 0 to Planet of the apes...seems that she doesn't watched the movies and ignores the background
lol I just said the same thing
She said Tarzan was inaccurate yet she gave it a higher rating than the accurate night of the museum just because they used a real monkey 😂
She gives a 0/10 for really accurate clips because she puts her personal feelings above everything else, instead of just simply rating the accuracy?
hmph, women
@@GameFuMasterpathetic
Mate one movie 💀 youll live i wouldnt rate it either for having a real animal in the movie they dont belong there
@@TjnosaurusRexfeminine tears, my favorite
Downvoted for her downvoting the scene with a real monkey. She was hired to rate the movie scenes, not to pass moral judgement on the use of animals in movies. If she rated it fairly, but then noted her moral judgement, that is another thing altogether
An APE, not a monkey. Given that you don’t grasp the distinction you shouldn’t be commenting
"Chips aren't generally violent." Mean while in the congo an adult chip is literally tearing their child apart and eating them.
Gorillas arent often depicted as being gentle and nurturing. Literally the king kong movie is all about him being gentle and nuturing and misunderstood. Its ironic for an "expert" argue against harmful stereotypes yet have a stereotypical view of hollywood.
That is what I was thinking too especially in the Nope Scene with Gordie
Seriously, gorillas have been the gentle giants for well over 20 years now.
What is she on about?
You didnt listen, she explicitly mentioned this quality of the movie.
Also, like so many others, you didnt get the premise of these videos: How realistic is it?
She gave all the stuff that isnt realistic a low score, as she was asked to do.
If nothing else, enjoy the quality information she provided, as opposed to grieving over a bad rating for one or another movie you like.
@@Ganiscol Except Nope got a score of zero despite being based on something that actually happened.
You can't give something a zero for being unrealistic when it literally happened.
@@Ganiscol If I told you your reenactment of Julius Caser was spot on, excellent, best ever done, but then said I personally hate the Romans so because of that I have to give you a zero grade, is that a fair assessment of your acting?
Gives Jumanji a very low score because the mandrills don’t act appropriately. Yet gives Tarzan a high score despite it also having a mob of mandrills also acting inappropriately.
Let this be her first and last appearance on here.
Were they seriously commenting on the realism of King Kong…….cuz the giant 25ft ape isn’t unrealistic enough
"the monkeys are real and have no place in the entertainment industry, 0/10" bruh what? What does that have to do with the behaviour of the monkeys or how they are portrayed????
I think this lady missed the point of what this video was supposed to be….
Wonder how her reaction would have changed if they let the clip play out and Kong uses the little ape as a weapon.
Night at the museum got a zero for using a real monkey? that's ridiculous
a 0 for Nope? kinda crazy but i do see her perspective from a wild chimp but from one that’s been forced to do acting work & that has been agitated so much to the point where it’s ripping a humans face off? there has absolutely been cases of chimps doing exactly THAT. but it doesn’t make me hate them, it makes me appreciate & respect their space even more
Especially after she pointed out all the things right with it, to then give it a 0 mad no sense
Even with the wild ones it doesn't make sense. Power struggles lead to non-consensual castration and missing fingers. Territory disputes lead to wars.
He'll, Jane Goodall herself nearly got beaten to death by one. The same one that would later kill and eat a human baby.
Chimps are 100% about that action.
Wild chimps are also highly aggressive and violent. Have you seen what happens when two chimp groups cross paths in the jungle? The outcome isn’t pretty.
NOPE 0/10!? Lady, you have obviously never heard of Travis, chimp civil wars, chimp politics, or even chimp hunting parties/raids
Worst one yet.
Agree, didn't like like this at all. He scoring was bad and she got some facts wrong, first time I'm giving a video on this channel a thumbs down
This is literally the type of expert reacts videos I despise 😤
Lady, we KNOW these are fictional, we KNOW Kong does not and cannot exist, we KNOW its unlikely a human could be raised by apes
Not discrediting what she knows but to basically discredit the work of Terry Notary and Andy Serkis and others who have painstakingly studied these animals to get their portrayals accurate is frankly insulting, Serkis did not spend so much time with gorillas to get Kong as real as he could for King Kong 2005 just to have some boffin say "that's not real, that can't happen"
And need I say more about the stupid remarks and ratings for Nope and Night At The Museum?
This is why the expert react series with Jonathan Ferguson (keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history) is the best because he knows when something is fictional and will actually praise what devs do while pointing out inaccuracies
Gotta say, not liking her appraisals. They sound like all these animals are the gentlest of animals. Very emotional appraisal.
The reviews she gave are honestly terrible.
crazy thing is NOPE is based on a real event. That actually happened like that
I don't understand her scoring criteria. She talks about how several aspects of each are realistic or not, but doesn't assign the score based on the accuracy of the behaviors. Seemingly, she scores based on how those behaviors get portrayed, or even the impression they form with the audience. The capuchin monkeys from Night at the Museum was the most confusing, since she explained that every one of the behaviors exhibited by the monkeys was accurate to wild capuchins, but since she disagreed with live monkeys being used in the entertainment industry, the film got 0/10. It's odd that a PhD Fulbright Scholar and National Science Foundation fellow would have so much trouble understanding this assignment.
Maybe because this assignment doesn't mean sense. Most of the movie are totally unrealistic. The rate in itself doesn't mean sense. Most of shark movies are stupid too.
She saw a fight between a gorilla and a leopard?! Talk about that instead of telling us that king kong is bigger than a gorilla.
Did she rate the movies or the attacks? 🤔
A fair question. "This is accurate, but I hate it, so 0."
The clips
@@deckardcanineone movie and ur crying about it why r u so pissed im not mad shes supporting a movie with real animals
@@TjnosaurusRex I'm not mad or crying. I just think she broke the rules.
"Ape Rates Human Attacks In Movies And TV"
The interesting thing about Nope is that when Gordy discovers Jupe hiding under the table, he actually signs “What happened family?”, implying that he wasn’t aware of what he had just done
Animal aggression because of human interference/exploitation/abuse is one of the theses of Nope. Boo for completely missing the point.
She doesn't understand The Planet of the Apes movies also.
What do you know the "expert" is wrong again Bonobos are not aggressive really a new study publishing April 12 2024 in the journal Current Biology shows that, within their own communities, male bonobos are more frequently aggressive than male chimpanzees. For both species, the more aggressive males had more mating opportunities. They also noted that female bonobos and chimpanzees are not passive and also display aggression, the researchers found that male bonobos were more frequently aggressive than chimpanzees. Overall, bonobos engaged in 2.8 times more aggressive interactions and 3 times as many physical aggressions. While male bonobos were almost exclusively aggressive toward other males, chimpanzees acted aggressively toward females as well as males. Chimpanzee aggression was also more likely to involve "coalitions" of males, rather than just one on one violence.
Gentler side to chimps? She clearly is omitting the infamous Bonobo War.
Bonobos have never been seen going to war, only chimps.
People are complaining about her ratings but, whatever problems there may be with those, she does a really good job explaining why a scene may or may not be realistic.
This expert is a one timer here…. Thanks for coming either way 🙏🏻
What a terrible guest. Very emotional thinking for scientist.
She should not come back. she only likes kiddy films and not anything that dare hints that they could harm anybody.
Someone needs to tell her that she’s rating the apes, not how realistic Godzilla is.
"King Kong" (2005) shouldn't have been judged negatively because of his size. It's a fantasy. But Kong does behave very much like a real gorilla.
Kong in the Godzilla Kong movies shouldn't even be part of the discussion here. Hes not a gorilla, and he's so far beyond the intelligence and characteristics of a real life ape that discussing his realism is a waste of time.
Enjoy the video and learning about apes - but doing “reviews” and rankings of movies doesn’t really make any sense here since most of these movies are showing some sort of an extreme example or modified/ape like creature
Probably would’ve worked better if she just kind of reacted and commented
I think she's a bit to biased in her love for apes which is valid.. but I wouldn't say chimps are not prone to violence probably one of the most violent apes. seen documentary where they brutally fight between themself and attack and kill other chimps brutally to the point of torture and than most horrific attacks on humans were also done by chimps..
I enjoyed the video for the insight and knowledge about apes but the rating system was off..
Coming up next: Godzilla expert rate 10 Godzilla fighting scene how real it is.
😂😂😂😂 I did laugh out loud, gotta admit it
18:21 Very accurate and realistic, however I don't like the movie so 0/10
*very accurate and realistic, and a very good movie, but because they shot with real monkeys and I morally object to that, 0/10.
I know she understands apes, but maybe get someone to explain science fiction to her
I mean ...
What is she trying to do here?
rating movies on Favoritism or Realism 😶
She really said the chimp are peacefully animal 💀
wait shes not getting the message behind nope
Weak performance, Mrs. Major.
Humans did not evolve from the apes. They were developed in different phases from each eras.
The planet of the apes series is peak. The new movie was good but can’t wait for the next part
Not sure what was the point of this video.
Not sure what is the point of your comment.
@@cethomas324Not sure why you are here.
It's her rating, damn. Let her give Tarzan a 10/10 if she wants. If you disagree, do your own rating
I don’t understand why she’s saying how good some of the animals look in the movie and then writing them zero
That was awesome Dr. Mireya! Have a great summer!
I always hate when experts are like " they are not naturally violent "
With animals, groups or people with conditions... the movies almost always make it clear these are unique circumstances
Just because the average gorillas pretty chill means nothing regarding kimg kong reacting violently when he has been kidnapped
I don’t think this girl is very knowledgeable about apes. Saying chimps are not violent? Lost all credibility
So what I learned today is that when we make movies about animals doing things those animals have never done, like take over the world, those movies aren’t realistic. Say it ain’t so.
Jane Goodall also described how horribly violent they were too. Especially when she documents their wars.
Take it easy lady. King Kong is just a movie. It ain’t supposed to be real. 3/10! Crazy
I watched a RUclips documentary presentation of an unusual circumstance of baby chimpanzees interacting/playing baboon babies and their troop. The mother chimpanzees kept a close eye on the interaction until it became slightly more aggressive. Playtime broke up.
That scene from NOPE is actually inspired by a horrible event that took place back on 2009 where a woman was brutally attacked by a chimpanzee.
I think the video would work a lot better without the numerical rating because it is unclear if Mayor is rating based on her preferences for the movie / scenes or based on how realistic the scenes are or how probable she finds the scenes.
I agree with her on the aspect of Disney’s Tarzan and her other points.
I think you should have checked out the other 2 King Kong films. There’s the original from 1933, and the bizarre (but fun) remake from 1976. In both of those films, Kong’s size changes throughout the settings. Like, in the original, he’s 18ft on his home island (known as Skull Island after its most famous mountain), and 24ft in New York. The director made this decision so Kong could stand out amongst the skyscrapers that NYC is known for. And, in the ‘76 remake, he’s 42ft on Skull Mountain Island, and 55ft in NYC. Plus, he climbs the original World Trade Centre instead of the Empire State Building.
The way she said Gorillas are not aggressive, is highly lie to what she typically doesn’t know from any behaviors they would perform or show emotion.
This expert did not understand the assignment
She said king kong could not climb the empire state building.. if he wanted to he gon do whatever he wants
I didn’t expect Godzilla x Kong in this
Mean either
I remembered when i used to work as a zookeeper, I'm in charge for the reptiles, so i didn't know much about apes but once i saw they're fighting and one of the ape just help his hand up and all of them went quiet. It's an interesting thing to observe.
She loses all credibility two clips it. Not the best instalment to say the least.
Yeah she's the worst one in terms of expertise. Real sad cause I love this channel.
she is not reviewing them based on the clip shes giving ratings based on her ethical beliefs
In the Planet of the Apes movies, I interpreted the change in their eyes looking more human was to make them appear more intelligent to the audience. Also, Koba was a severely abused test subject by humans. Although he is portrayed as a bad guy, his anger is well earned.
Change of their eyes is also part of mutation.
- 00:32 3/10 "King Kong" (2005)
- 02:23 0/10 "Nope" (2022)
- 04:32 10/10 "Tarzan" (1999)
- 06:03 2/10 "Rise of the Planet of the Apes"
- 08:28 1/10 "Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire"
- 10:19 9/10 "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes"
- 13:40 2/10 "Jumanji: The Next Level"
- 15:18 5/10 "2001: A Space Odyssey"
- 17:36 0/10 "Night at the Museum"
- 18:42 1/10 "The Jungle Book" (2016)
The only rating I agree with is Night at the Museum in terms of movies!
In terms of realism they all fail
I respect her giving the film 0/10--she brought attention to the issue of monkeys in the entertainment industry, and, ya know, I needed to hear that. Learned a lot--thank you!
I really enjoyed this video, Mireya gave so much educational information! Yes the primates act wrong in movies, and yes they are movies, but you really can't complain about how much information Mireya gave us and how interesting it was to learn! I love primates, and learning things I never knew when watching this video was amazing! Thank you Mireya!!
She’s wrong about Chimps in the Nope clip
Sorry Insider, but not your greatest guest. Not because of a lack of logic but a lack of consistency!
They could’ve just gotten me to do this video if all I had to do was based these movies on whether or not I liked them instead of actual facts and accuracy
5:50 and people debate gorillas vs grizzly bears and lions and tigers😂😂
Can you rate scar king from godzilla x kong
100 out of 10 IDK
I really enjoyed the video that you presented that you described what actual primate activity is versus Hollywood fantasy. I appreciate your knowledge and experience as always Dr. sweets Mireya!! Love Ya 🤗♥️
title should have been "Ape Expert rates 10 Monkey and Ape Attacks In Movies and TV Based on her feelings"