I love how this series made the fsm more op after he was nerfed in Seabound by creating only the land part of Ninjago by having the reveal that he mad multiple relams.
At least they still make their legend overpowered. Unlike a certain Movie that turned it’s legend into a sniveling coward. (I hate The Angry Birds Movie 2 so much)
@@IsleofPigsStudiosalso in angry bird one he is very fat he isn't like tough or anything he is just a very big bird that is lazy and only come out for food which is pretty accurate to angry birds
Imagine if the FSM created Chima and the Serpentine where just the first attempts of creating antropomorphic life similar to merlopians so then he could create other beings in that realm.
This lore is so interesting because as many problems I have with the First Spinjitzu Master, this adds so much depth, deeper implications, and so much room for lore expansion with him. This is the kind of lore expansion that kept me coming back to this show. This is good stuff and I think the show is better for it because it gives us more chances to explore this lore character beyond their being generic evils that exist opposite of him. It makes the Realm Crystal make more sense and just gives so much potential for lore.
@@Crusty783 I also think that there is another realm he influenced he didn't create it but I believe he could have atleast influenced it before I fully believe he had something to do with chima
Wu also says "Realms of creation" so that must mean that this lore was cooking at least since season 11 , and is pretty much confirming the Neverealm part 😂
If each realm represented one of the golden weapons then Ninjago would be Earth, Never-Realm would be Ice, Imperium would be Fire, and the Cloud Kingdom would be lightning since the element is often in the clouds (pilots, shadow of Ronin)
I’m honestly surprised that people didn’t put together before said reveal that the FSM created a few of the realms! 😯 I’ve just always thought that if he had a crystal that could traverse into every realm, spoke about some of the realms to his sons, and having places in different realms named after things in Ninjago, (I think only the Never Realm ever mentioned stuff like that…😅) I just came to the conclusion that he created a few of them! 😅 Am finding it honestly funny that people are getting mad about this-since I’ve always been perfectly okay with it! 😆
I really enjoy this new lore, I always love coming back to the Creation Mythos in new ways in this show! I think your quesses for which realms are the FSMs creations are probably the right ones, however i thought of something else, but you'll have to hear me out. In the Clip, we can see the three Dragon Cores hovering between the 4 Realms the FSM created in order to stop the Ancient Merge. However, we can see that there are 2 Realms which obviously do not have a core inbetween them and are thus directly next to each other. What if, these Realms are Djinnjago and the Cursed Realm? That would explain why the 2 are "Sister-Realms" and why they are so closely connected, crumbling apart when the other falls. The Dragon Cores simply didnt push them far enough away from each other in the ethereal divide, allowing for this bond to form. But that's just speculation on my part of course. As for the reason the travel gates exist, it could be imo. for one of 2 reasons. 1. He created them in order to let the humans pass through into his other Realms, and thats why there are humans there, or 2. He feared that the Oni could use the crystal to enter ninjago once more if he used it, perhaps thats how they got to ninjago in the first place after they went searching for him, and thus he created another means of travel that wouldnt be plagued by the oni's potential return.
Btw I think Chima was also created by the FSM because the under a rock called the forever rock in that realm has a passageway to another realm which might be a portal gate like the ones in imperium and ninjago.
amazing video as always crusty. I love this new law. I wonder if we will see first born and if she has anything to do with with the source dragons. I would love it if she helped the FSM creat the realm crystal as she was probebly the first being the travel between relms. Also I love her so much her design is incredble and she was one of my favorite parts of hunted but i do thing we need to give the source dragons the spotlight before we introduce her again as they seem to be much larger and more powerful.
I like the fact that fsm becomes more and more op because it amplify the responsibilities that loydd abandoned (even if he hasn’t lost the usm power because when emperor garmadons steals his power he have the power of creation and destruction) and so makes more and more understandable garmadon’s reaction to Lloyd abandoning his powers in season 3
I think the Cloud Kingdom being the FSM's creation checks out given the fact that, as you said, humans inhabit it. And as we know from Dragons Rising, the people there don't actually write the future, but predict it, meaning they aren't all-powerful beings on a similar level to the FSM.
I actually like to think the 4 he made are these 4 Ninjago The underworld, as we see it’s the easiest realm to travel from Ninjago like the fire temple portal Cloud kingdom as it was accessible through the blind man’s eye And imperium like you said there humans plus the dragons is a good sign.
You ever wonder if the first spinjitsu master created imperium would he have seen what empress Beatrix was like and if he did how come he didn’t stop her did he just not care?
I do agree that the fact that the Overlord can come back after being defeated is really dumb. He’s probably planning his return in Dragons Rising right now.
While your Gate theory sounds very intriguing, the Folds Song says 16 Monestaries, but it could've also been changed. I'm very interested to get answers in part2.
Across the newest episodes of Dragons Rising, a few realms they visit mention their knowing of the legacy of the ninja... perhaps those realms were created by the FSM?
I like the concept. It makes the FSM more overpowered and I like how they are keeping a legendary character as a legend. Unlike something like The Angry Birds Movie 2 where that movie completely squandered its legendary character of Mighty Eagle. (Yes, I am the one person who had the balls to rant about The Angry Birds Movie 2 in the premiere. The Angry Birds Movie 2 is more abysmal than Crystalized). The new clip definitely explains why the worms attacked in episode 5 however, Lloyd should have asked the worms instead of Nya.
I think you are absolutely spot on about there being four realms created by the FSM, and that three of them are Ninjago, the Cloud Kingdom, and Imperium. However, I find your explanation about the Never-Realm to make very little sense if I'm honest. For all we know, there could be other humans that simply were not created by the FSM and the FSM could have just coined Wojira's Wrath on his one visit there. Instead, I believe the fourth realm is one we haven't seen yet but will be integral to Dragons Rising either at the end of Season 1 or potentially Season 2. As you said, this completely changes the game in terms of storytelling and I believe the writers are saving this for a bigger story element later. Also, the fact that Ninjago fans are up in arms about the FSM creating more than one realm is a little absurd considering the FSM is essentially a godlike diety and there is absolutely nothing in the show that could potentially contradict this to begin with.
Hmmm, the only thing is though, later we find out that another place, I can't remember what they called it, where they found that sorceress, was it Mysterium?? Also had a monastery like theirs, but different. So many questions, and no answers! They also have not explained what happened to Cole on his sole quest to maybe find Wu, or chase after that 'ghost' of him, or whatever. They just keep creating more questions, and it's really frustrating lol. Also, when the spirit in the temple told them about the dragon cores, and they talked about the FSM hiding the cores, they said, the mother garden, the Wyldness, and can't remember the other one, cliffs, or peaks of something or other. I dunno. But perhaps those were some of the other realms he created? Maybe there were not just four. Maybe it was the four weapons, not four realms. When Wu talked about the never realm, he said 'Of all the realms of creation'. Well, maybe all those are of the FSM's doing, and the rest are not from creation? I dunno, like maybe the underworld, the departed, and cursed realm, (and also Djinnjago as it was linked to that) and the realm of madness etc are not of creation, but darkness? Not counting the first realm, that's 16 realms, and if we halve that, 8 each. I'm counting 14 realms so far that I've seen mentioned on the show. So that still leaves 3 unknown on the side of darkness. If my idea is even correct lol. On one side- Ninjago, Cloud Kingdom, Never Realm, Mother Garden, Wyldness, Peaks of whatever, Imperium, Mysterium. Other side- Cursed Realm, Departed Realm, Realm of Madness, Djinnjago, The Underworld, and 3 more.
It would explain why that there are serpentine in ninjago since they might've come from chima and the FSM might have moved them there for some reason If that's true I hope they'll reveal why the FSM moved the serpentine to ninjago in a future episode
IMO, I think there’s a good chance one of these realms might be Chima, although I have limited evidence to back it up. The only interesting thing to mention is that Chima would already have a travel gate location, because I believe there was an inter-dimensional portal underneath that one rock.
Also we have confirmation on where some elemental powers came from that they came from the source dragons and this changes everything about the history of the elemental masters.
Imperium: Has Ninjargon and Dragons Ninjago: Has Ninjargon and Dragons Djinjago: Might have Ninjargon and has Dragons Neverrealm: Has Ninjago and might have dragons
There are also a thing that Overlord had always existed, predating even Oni and Dragons (because First Realm came into existence and actually didn't existed forever)
Also people don't realize that the 7 Source Dragons weren't created by the FSM and are so powerful that he asked for some of their power to create the dragon cores and they have enough power (according to the one in imperium) he has enough power in a single claw to destroy Imperium!!!! We still don't know who these dragons are just yet but I hope we do soon!!!!!!!!!! And we still don't what effects one will have on Lloyd becoming a SD Conduit!!!!!!!!!1
Ok, i have a theory, witch would ad to your one. Image if all 4 realms, witcg Fsm created, prepesented the 4 golden weapons. Ninjago is scythe of quakes, becase he used it to rise the islands of ninjago up from the sea. Never realm is shurikens of ice, becase duh Empirium is Nunchucks of lightning, becase the electricity and stuff The realm where Wyldfire and Heatwave come from is Sword of fire, becase hot climate
I actually had a headcanon before this which was (the fsm created every realm except the realm if oni and dragon,the cursed realm snd the departed realm) but now that's wrong i guess.Althogh this concept is great hope it doesn't the fsm s character,we ve always seen him as Ninjago s literal god,it would be wierd if they say he was a son a random dragon who randomly created like 4 realms and isn't really that powerful like being near powerless to the source dragons is wierd,i like to see characters more powerful,but not in the price of ruining your character.
4:43 But in seabound benthomaar said that wojira and the merlopians and islanders were already fighting wojira and the FSM just arrived there so actually, The FSM created the ninjago Island, not the realm. Btw you also forgot that the never realm also has species like yetis and formlings so it possible he didn't create the realm
FSM probably created both realms in the 17 Realms as well as realms beyond (we do know there are unknown as well as known realms as it is stated in Part 2 of Dragons Rising)
I have my own long and crazy theory about this, I would say that the four realms he made would be Ninjago, and the ones the dragon cores were in, we obviously know next to nothing about two of them, but The Wyldness contains Chima, and the Lava Tides, witch makes me think that we can assume that anthropomorphic animals are probably FSM creations from said land as well as the Lava Tydes, which he probably created by manipulating the life force, aka: Chi, into the environment (an idea they actually almost put in Chima where nature would come to life to the fighting in the land causing imbalance) so we have humanoid animals and elemental beings (probably not the ones from the Kingdom Of Madness) as trade marks of FSM, as well as probably in my opinion bringing animals for his realms from Wyldness, Ninjago has The Serpentine, Geotomic Rock Monsters and Lava Monsters under Shintaro. The Realm that contains The Mother Garden has the Mucoids, and the realm with the Pinnacle of Crystals could be filled by Mr Frohicky’s people. Although there others that could fit this idea: The Never Realm has animals similar to Ninjago and Wyldness and humanoid creatures in the Yeti (also humans of course, part of me thinks they may be descended from the people of the first realm given how similar they are), Imperium has humans and given the Photacs they have at least some similar animals, and even though we’ve barely seen it I might also propose Djinjago for the fact that the Djinn seem to almost be made of the clouds in the sky we saw there and gain their powers from the realm making me think they may have been created the same way as the elemental beings (also its called DJINJAGO). Part of me wonders if there are meant to be seven realms for the Seven Source Dragons, and that they may each be residing in one.
Didn’t the FSM create mysterium too? Because mysterium has a bunch of human wizards. So that would mean that FSM created 5 realms. I’m surprised that mysterium wasn’t mentioned in this video at all
This is a far reach, but what if each of the four realms the FSM created correlates to one of the elements of Creation. Like the Never realm would obviously be Ice. Cloud kingdom could be lightning because its in the Clouds and they have creatures like Nimbus there. Ninjago and Imperium could be fire or earth.
Thinking about what the show would do, it would make sense to introduce some brand new realms, and say that _those_ are the other realms that the FSM made. I doubt all of them will be realms we already knew about Also I thought the reason FSM was able to leave the first realm was because he created the realm crystal. So the timeline could be: creates crystal, leaves 1st realm, creates Ninjago/other realms
hmm… the reason why i kind of don’t like this change is because it feels odd for one being, even if he is a deity like figure, to create multiple realms but i guess the real question I have is what does it mean to create a realm? does ninjago count as a FSM realm cause it existed before he went there? or does it mean to create the landmass and influence the future/rules of a realm? I feel like i would have believed this more if this was shown to us before seabound or something. But very interesting point about how it answers some stuff like why the realm crystal was created now thats pretty cool. It also makes me wonder if theres like a small group of deity like beings that created the realms? like one deity like being that purposely made realms into beings themselves (so far we know chima and cursed realm are like this) in that case i think that’d be a pretty cool idea also gonna be honest i never liked the idea of the never-realms time being different i prefer all realms being at the same time.
I think the ones with elemental masters are the four realms like ninjago,impirium,cloud kingdom and the one wildfire is from (I don’t know what it’s called)
I swear Mystake or someone at some point during the Oni-Trilogy said the First Spinjitzu Master didn’t only create Ninjago 🤔. I KNOW I’d heard it before, so when I saw the clip I didn’t really react because I’ve heard that information somewhere…..I don’t remember where
1:52 I always hated this. Having the Overlord literally never being able to die, and he can just come back whenever he feels like really annoys me. It does kind of make sense when you think about it. The overlord is the embodiment of darkness and evil so as long as there is darkness in the world, he theoretically could always be around. But just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should and I don’t like that the show runners decided to do this. Now whenever the writers want they can just bring the overlord back for the fourth time, even though he’s a very boring and uninteresting villain
There is theory that the overlord is fsm brother and he is part oni and dragon like him it would be great and the next time the overload will bring the oni back and uses them to attack the ninja and i hope they will fix the oni and overlord say that the reason that the ninja managed to defeat him because he wasn't at full power and the fsm managed to weekend him and take a lot time to recover and he returns with body that is part oni and dragon and hope the writers fix the overload as well
I love your theories but one thing I know i've asked this quiet sometimes, and sorry if it annoys you if i ask it again but have you finished watching LMK? if not what season of it are you in? If you're having a tough time watching S1, things pick up in S2, and S3 and S4 are the most loved seasons by fans. Again sorry if i said anything wrong.
but i thought the Merlopians and island people claimed that they originated in the realm of ninjago and that the first spinjitzu master arrived there, retconning the original story?
How do we know that the first spinjitzu master didn’t encounter Zane as the ice emperor? We know it wasn’t a bad place before Vex manipulated Zane. And if time works differently, it is very plausible that in the couple hundred ninjago years since he passed, he could’ve visited the never realm 10-20 years into Zane’s reign
from s8-15 they were trying to humanize tfsm more, with how he was just a child at 1 point, and how he didnt actually create ninjago the realm, just the island. this feels like its going the opposite direction of that, and did he create the other realms or did he "create" them like he did with ninjago? and if they are going tfsm = god route then he basically abandonded 3 of "his" realms because ninjago was obv his fav, dr julien levels of messed up
there's 1 issue with your theory is that there are 5 realms with humans in it not 4 the admistration also has humans and might also have a gate to it since zane ends up there according to trailers
1:49 Crusty needs to rewatch season 3 because oh my FSM his return in in Reebooted makes way less sense. He littelery just keeps listing the wrong problems with Crystalized yeah the season is bad but not this kind of stuff.
Ok, so one confusing thing, not abt the video, but about the ninjago timeline(not totally related to the realms, but I figured why not ask), is: when we're The Golden Peaks made? It's said multiple times that the first spinjitsu master created ninjago using the golden weapons. The weapons said to be made *using the Golden Peaks' molten gold.* But the Golden Peaks are... part if Ninjago??? Idk, but this seems a bit messy, and if anyone has an answer plz tell me
The realm of Ninjago existed before the First Spinjitzu Master although it was mostly just comprised of the endless sea and a couple small islands (Island of the Keepers for example). Golden Peaks must have been there before he did.
@@Shaia_TeamLCE There are 17 realms in total. Ninjago, The Underworld, The Realm of Madness, The Cloud Kingdom, Chima, The Departed Realm, The Cursed Realm, Djinjago, The First Realm, The Never Realm, Imperium, Realm of Lee, The Administration, and 4 unknown realms
Only problem I have with this theory is regarding the never realm. If FSM checked up on it and realised how harsh and chaotic it is, why wouldn't he just fix the conditions? I find it hard to believe that a guy who creates worlds would just abandon the never realm. Other than that I think this theory is great!
Never realm was just extremely far compared to the other realms but Zane’s rule over the realm is when it was extreme cold and chaotic and I’m sure it wasn’t like that when First Spinjitsu master was around and that really isn’t his job lol
I mean he abandoned the first realm (the one with oni and dragons) cuz he wasn't able to stop the fighting of the oni and the dragons, so I think he would also abandon this too, if he thinks that the realm is too chaotic or something.
This new lore is really intriguing, I love it. I hope it gets expand upon later. But the "time works different in the Never Realm" thing is a important plot point, it would have been cool to have it been mentioned in the show
@@Crusty783it’s show us how powerful the first spinjitzu master really is I mean it’s make sense because he can make so many realms there’s 25 realms the whole time will we shouldn’t be surprises because ninjago have many secrets
My theory is that each weapon is correlated to one realm, the scythe of quakes is ninjago, the shurikens of ice is the never realm, nunchucks of lightning is emperium, and the sword of fire is cloud city.
Why not just assume the gates are for a safe spawn, the realm crystal is like a rick and morty portal you have 0 idea what ur getting into at least the gates have a place around them thats safe it would make a lot of sense to do that AND leave out the nether realm becuase the first spinjutsu master only went once and abandoned it he’d likely never want anyone to go there again so he wouldn’t make a gate, and if there’s other reasons for not making a gate you could assume the first spinjutsu master just simply couldn’t figure out the ninjago day to time passed in the nether realm ratio and deemed it too unpredictable to build a gate because what if he comes back and the gate is in a snowy mountain or a volcano or some other geological phenomenon that could develope in a very long amount of Time
Brugh my dumbass legitimately thought they was reckoning all of ninjago lore for this season, I’m genuinely glad they said he created other realms. Also I’m genuinely wondering why people got mad at this, kinda fits considering the fact that he created weapons that can control the elements themselves
What if he created children in the other realms he made so that they would be their protector when he died just like how Wu has taken care of Ninjago and bestowed that down to Lloyd
my problem is not that he made other relms my problem is that first we lurn he didnt evenm creat ninjago he just rose the land now we lurn he didnt even rase the land with the golden weapons it was the source drasgons thats why i have a problem
I love how this series made the fsm more op after he was nerfed in Seabound by creating only the land part of Ninjago by having the reveal that he mad multiple relams.
Well it didn't nescisaraly nerf him it just ment he didn't make Ninjago
At least they still make their legend overpowered. Unlike a certain Movie that turned it’s legend into a sniveling coward. (I hate The Angry Birds Movie 2 so much)
@@IsleofPigsStudiosmade the mighty eagle so funny and relatable what will happen when legends get old
@@IsleofPigsStudiosalso in angry bird one he is very fat he isn't like tough or anything he is just a very big bird that is lazy and only come out for food which is pretty accurate to angry birds
Well I mean tbf you expect mighty eagle to throw hands with dad bod
Imagine if the FSM created Chima and the Serpentine where just the first attempts of creating antropomorphic life similar to merlopians so then he could create other beings in that realm.
that is a cool idea but I kinda dont want to see chima as it is a dfferent show and it would so strange.
@@adekunletaiwo1342 Chima is one of the 16 realms actually as shown in season 5
Do you know chima's lore they drank special water to make them humanoid make a more detailed theory to explain that.
Dude that makes 0 sense. The humanoids were created by Chi water from the Mother Sun. It went something like that
@@libsh5684 I know but still you shouldn’t haft to have watched it at least to understand there inclusion of it if they do include it in the show .
This lore is so interesting because as many problems I have with the First Spinjitzu Master, this adds so much depth, deeper implications, and so much room for lore expansion with him. This is the kind of lore expansion that kept me coming back to this show. This is good stuff and I think the show is better for it because it gives us more chances to explore this lore character beyond their being generic evils that exist opposite of him. It makes the Realm Crystal make more sense and just gives so much potential for lore.
8:13 it's revealed that there is a monestary for all the realms, it's linked to the merge and is one of the show's mysteries
Imperium also use the same language as Ninjago (although this is probably just the animators not wanting to create a new language)
It would make sense for him to trust cloud kingdom with the sword if he made it
true actually i never considered that
@@Crusty783 I also think that there is another realm he influenced he didn't create it but I believe he could have atleast influenced it before I fully believe he had something to do with chima
Wu also says "Realms of creation" so that must mean that this lore was cooking at least since season 11 , and is pretty much confirming the Neverealm part 😂
I love the idea of the fsm wanting to mimic his home (oni and dragon realm) and making imperium a sort of dessert full of dragons.
I know this is 9 m late and is possible that you already know this but all the dragons came from the first realm (confirmed)
If each realm represented one of the golden weapons then Ninjago would be Earth, Never-Realm would be Ice, Imperium would be Fire, and the Cloud Kingdom would be lightning since the element is often in the clouds (pilots, shadow of Ronin)
1:47 Well, dex said to me that vandalism means unjustified distruction, a delicious snack for a being like Overlord.
I’m honestly surprised that people didn’t put together before said reveal that the FSM created a few of the realms! 😯
I’ve just always thought that if he had a crystal that could traverse into every realm, spoke about some of the realms to his sons, and having places in different realms named after things in Ninjago, (I think only the Never Realm ever mentioned stuff like that…😅) I just came to the conclusion that he created a few of them! 😅
Am finding it honestly funny that people are getting mad about this-since I’ve always been perfectly okay with it! 😆
Cloud kingdom makes sense to be one of the created realms. Entrusting the sword of sanctuary to one of his own realms.
I really enjoy this new lore, I always love coming back to the Creation Mythos in new ways in this show! I think your quesses for which realms are the FSMs creations are probably the right ones, however i thought of something else, but you'll have to hear me out. In the Clip, we can see the three Dragon Cores hovering between the 4 Realms the FSM created in order to stop the Ancient Merge. However, we can see that there are 2 Realms which obviously do not have a core inbetween them and are thus directly next to each other. What if, these Realms are Djinnjago and the Cursed Realm? That would explain why the 2 are "Sister-Realms" and why they are so closely connected, crumbling apart when the other falls. The Dragon Cores simply didnt push them far enough away from each other in the ethereal divide, allowing for this bond to form. But that's just speculation on my part of course. As for the reason the travel gates exist, it could be imo. for one of 2 reasons. 1. He created them in order to let the humans pass through into his other Realms, and thats why there are humans there, or 2. He feared that the Oni could use the crystal to enter ninjago once more if he used it, perhaps thats how they got to ninjago in the first place after they went searching for him, and thus he created another means of travel that wouldnt be plagued by the oni's potential return.
Btw I think Chima was also created by the FSM because the under a rock called the forever rock in that realm has a passageway to another realm which might be a portal gate like the ones in imperium and ninjago.
amazing video as always crusty.
I love this new law.
I wonder if we will see first born and if she has anything to do with with the source dragons.
I would love it if she helped the FSM creat the realm crystal as she was probebly the first being the travel between relms.
Also I love her so much her design is incredble and she was one of my favorite parts of hunted but i do thing we need to give the source dragons the spotlight before we introduce her again as they seem to be much larger and more powerful.
I like the fact that fsm becomes more and more op because it amplify the responsibilities that loydd abandoned (even if he hasn’t lost the usm power because when emperor garmadons steals his power he have the power of creation and destruction) and so makes more and more understandable garmadon’s reaction to Lloyd abandoning his powers in season 3
I think the Cloud Kingdom being the FSM's creation checks out given the fact that, as you said, humans inhabit it. And as we know from Dragons Rising, the people there don't actually write the future, but predict it, meaning they aren't all-powerful beings on a similar level to the FSM.
I actually like to think the 4 he made are these 4
Ninjago
The underworld, as we see it’s the easiest realm to travel from Ninjago like the fire temple portal
Cloud kingdom as it was accessible through the blind man’s eye
And imperium like you said there humans plus the dragons is a good sign.
8:23: The unused intro for Dragons Rising, Feels good to be a Ninja, mentions 16 Monasteries, so it being there is prolly a merge thing
You ever wonder if the first spinjitsu master created imperium would he have seen what empress Beatrix was like and if he did how come he didn’t stop her did he just not care?
he was probably dead by the time she came to power
@@Crusty783just fyi the FSM never died, he just peaced out to the Grasslands
@@legofanaditya The Grasslands could've been one of the realms
I think there are 17 gates bcs in the song "feels good to be a ninja" 16 monasteries were mentioned so I'm really sure 17 monasteries exist
I do agree that the fact that the Overlord can come back after being defeated is really dumb. He’s probably planning his return in Dragons Rising right now.
I have a theory that Djinjago is of the FSM because of the similar name
While your Gate theory sounds very intriguing, the Folds Song says 16 Monestaries, but it could've also been changed. I'm very interested to get answers in part2.
Across the newest episodes of Dragons Rising, a few realms they visit mention their knowing of the legacy of the ninja... perhaps those realms were created by the FSM?
I like the concept. It makes the FSM more overpowered and I like how they are keeping a legendary character as a legend. Unlike something like The Angry Birds Movie 2 where that movie completely squandered its legendary character of Mighty Eagle. (Yes, I am the one person who had the balls to rant about The Angry Birds Movie 2 in the premiere. The Angry Birds Movie 2 is more abysmal than Crystalized). The new clip definitely explains why the worms attacked in episode 5 however, Lloyd should have asked the worms instead of Nya.
I think you are absolutely spot on about there being four realms created by the FSM, and that three of them are Ninjago, the Cloud Kingdom, and Imperium. However, I find your explanation about the Never-Realm to make very little sense if I'm honest. For all we know, there could be other humans that simply were not created by the FSM and the FSM could have just coined Wojira's Wrath on his one visit there. Instead, I believe the fourth realm is one we haven't seen yet but will be integral to Dragons Rising either at the end of Season 1 or potentially Season 2. As you said, this completely changes the game in terms of storytelling and I believe the writers are saving this for a bigger story element later.
Also, the fact that Ninjago fans are up in arms about the FSM creating more than one realm is a little absurd considering the FSM is essentially a godlike diety and there is absolutely nothing in the show that could potentially contradict this to begin with.
Your take on this lore makes me more excited for the second part of the season. Goosebumps.
I think it would be cool if he had children in all the realms he created in order to protect them
1:24 FSM created 16 realms maybe not from scratch, but he created then
I remember while watching this when I was younger, finding out Wu was 1000 was crazy, it made more sense for the story but surprised me
I remember having a similar reaction when that Fire Chapter trailer dropped!
I thought that the fact the FSM created other realms was already a thing that’s been established for years
Hmmm, the only thing is though, later we find out that another place, I can't remember what they called it, where they found that sorceress, was it Mysterium?? Also had a monastery like theirs, but different. So many questions, and no answers! They also have not explained what happened to Cole on his sole quest to maybe find Wu, or chase after that 'ghost' of him, or whatever. They just keep creating more questions, and it's really frustrating lol.
Also, when the spirit in the temple told them about the dragon cores, and they talked about the FSM hiding the cores, they said, the mother garden, the Wyldness, and can't remember the other one, cliffs, or peaks of something or other. I dunno. But perhaps those were some of the other realms he created? Maybe there were not just four. Maybe it was the four weapons, not four realms. When Wu talked about the never realm, he said 'Of all the realms of creation'. Well, maybe all those are of the FSM's doing, and the rest are not from creation? I dunno, like maybe the underworld, the departed, and cursed realm, (and also Djinnjago as it was linked to that) and the realm of madness etc are not of creation, but darkness? Not counting the first realm, that's 16 realms, and if we halve that, 8 each. I'm counting 14 realms so far that I've seen mentioned on the show. So that still leaves 3 unknown on the side of darkness. If my idea is even correct lol. On one side- Ninjago, Cloud Kingdom, Never Realm, Mother Garden, Wyldness, Peaks of whatever, Imperium, Mysterium. Other side- Cursed Realm, Departed Realm, Realm of Madness, Djinnjago, The Underworld, and 3 more.
It would explain why that there are serpentine in ninjago since they might've come from chima and the FSM might have moved them there for some reason
If that's true I hope they'll reveal why the FSM moved the serpentine to ninjago in a future episode
The first Spinjitzu master created the serpentine Which aren’t exactly human
If he made 4 realms and three dragon cores wouldn't he put the dragon cores in the realms that he made?
wait yall didn't realise that he created other realms before dragons rising? that was like sooo obvious
IMO, I think there’s a good chance one of these realms might be Chima, although I have limited evidence to back it up. The only interesting thing to mention is that Chima would already have a travel gate location, because I believe there was an inter-dimensional portal underneath that one rock.
well the show hasn't shown all 16 realms yet soooo. mystery
I think those realms always existed he just breathed life I to them
Bruh he used the gate to get the realms
btw, the realms that were in this are the only ones that had people with elemental powers
Great video!
My first thought when watching the episode was that perhaps the FSM had some hand in founding Djinjago because of the name lol
Also we have confirmation on where some elemental powers came from that they came from the source dragons and this changes everything about the history of the elemental masters.
Imperium: Has Ninjargon and Dragons
Ninjago: Has Ninjargon and Dragons
Djinjago: Might have Ninjargon and has Dragons
Neverrealm: Has Ninjago and might have dragons
Im also really interrested what they will do with the reveal that there are 7 source dragons who created the dragon energy cores
There are also a thing that Overlord had always existed, predating even Oni and Dragons (because First Realm came into existence and actually didn't existed forever)
Also people don't realize that the 7 Source Dragons weren't created by the FSM and are so powerful that he asked for some of their power to create the dragon cores and they have enough power (according to the one in imperium) he has enough power in a single claw to destroy Imperium!!!!
We still don't know who these dragons are just yet but I hope we do soon!!!!!!!!!!
And we still don't what effects one will have on Lloyd becoming a SD Conduit!!!!!!!!!1
Ok, i have a theory, witch would ad to your one.
Image if all 4 realms, witcg Fsm created, prepesented the 4 golden weapons.
Ninjago is scythe of quakes, becase he used it to rise the islands of ninjago up from the sea.
Never realm is shurikens of ice, becase duh
Empirium is Nunchucks of lightning, becase the electricity and stuff
The realm where Wyldfire and Heatwave come from is Sword of fire, becase hot climate
I actually had a headcanon before this which was (the fsm created every realm except the realm if oni and dragon,the cursed realm snd the departed realm) but now that's wrong i guess.Althogh this concept is great hope it doesn't the fsm s character,we ve always seen him as Ninjago s literal god,it would be wierd if they say he was a son a random dragon who randomly created like 4 realms and isn't really that powerful like being near powerless to the source dragons is wierd,i like to see characters more powerful,but not in the price of ruining your character.
4:43 But in seabound benthomaar said that wojira and the merlopians and islanders were already fighting wojira and the FSM just arrived there so actually,
The FSM created the ninjago Island, not the realm.
Btw you also forgot that the never realm also has species like yetis and formlings so it possible he didn't create the realm
he made them. also nothing stops fsm from creating those worlds same way he did ninjago (find barren space and breathe life into it)
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And there is too much more evidence that FSM created the Realm itself, not only the continent.
FSM probably created both realms in the 17 Realms as well as realms beyond (we do know there are unknown as well as known realms as it is stated in Part 2 of Dragons Rising)
all that what you said proves that FSM need a 1 or 2 season show about his life
Wait, The FSM created humanity? I thought he only created garmadon and wu.
I have my own long and crazy theory about this, I would say that the four realms he made would be Ninjago, and the ones the dragon cores were in, we obviously know next to nothing about two of them, but The Wyldness contains Chima, and the Lava Tides, witch makes me think that we can assume that anthropomorphic animals are probably FSM creations from said land as well as the Lava Tydes, which he probably created by manipulating the life force, aka: Chi, into the environment (an idea they actually almost put in Chima where nature would come to life to the fighting in the land causing imbalance) so we have humanoid animals and elemental beings (probably not the ones from the Kingdom Of Madness) as trade marks of FSM, as well as probably in my opinion bringing animals for his realms from Wyldness, Ninjago has The Serpentine, Geotomic Rock Monsters and Lava Monsters under Shintaro. The Realm that contains The Mother Garden has the Mucoids, and the realm with the Pinnacle of Crystals could be filled by Mr Frohicky’s people. Although there others that could fit this idea: The Never Realm has animals similar to Ninjago and Wyldness and humanoid creatures in the Yeti (also humans of course, part of me thinks they may be descended from the people of the first realm given how similar they are), Imperium has humans and given the Photacs they have at least some similar animals, and even though we’ve barely seen it I might also propose Djinjago for the fact that the Djinn seem to almost be made of the clouds in the sky we saw there and gain their powers from the realm making me think they may have been created the same way as the elemental beings (also its called DJINJAGO). Part of me wonders if there are meant to be seven realms for the Seven Source Dragons, and that they may each be residing in one.
I don't think the cloud kingdom was retconned, I believe the monks lost their power after the merge.
We already know theres 16 monasterys because of the be good to be Ninja song
Didn’t the FSM create mysterium too? Because mysterium has a bunch of human wizards. So that would mean that FSM created 5 realms. I’m surprised that mysterium wasn’t mentioned in this video at all
this video was made half a year before the S2 episodes that introduced Mysterium came out
I like this lore drop I always thought that the FSM created more then just ninjago it makes sense he is the God of there universe so it makes sense
I doubt the FSM created the Humans
This is a far reach, but what if each of the four realms the FSM created correlates to one of the elements of Creation. Like the Never realm would obviously be Ice. Cloud kingdom could be lightning because its in the Clouds and they have creatures like Nimbus there. Ninjago and Imperium could be fire or earth.
Thinking about what the show would do, it would make sense to introduce some brand new realms, and say that _those_ are the other realms that the FSM made. I doubt all of them will be realms we already knew about
Also I thought the reason FSM was able to leave the first realm was because he created the realm crystal. So the timeline could be: creates crystal, leaves 1st realm, creates Ninjago/other realms
Theres not really any implication of how FSM left the first realm. Safest assumption is probably dragon tho
hmm… the reason why i kind of don’t like this change is because it feels odd for one being, even if he is a deity like figure, to create multiple realms but i guess the real question I have is what does it mean to create a realm? does ninjago count as a FSM realm cause it existed before he went there? or does it mean to create the landmass and influence the future/rules of a realm? I feel like i would have believed this more if this was shown to us before seabound or something. But very interesting point about how it answers some stuff like why the realm crystal was created now thats pretty cool.
It also makes me wonder if theres like a small group of deity like beings that created the realms? like one deity like being that purposely made realms into beings themselves (so far we know chima and cursed realm are like this) in that case i think that’d be a pretty cool idea
also gonna be honest i never liked the idea of the never-realms time being different i prefer all realms being at the same time.
I think the ones with elemental masters are the four realms like ninjago,impirium,cloud kingdom and the one wildfire is from (I don’t know what it’s called)
I swear Mystake or someone at some point during the Oni-Trilogy said the First Spinjitzu Master didn’t only create Ninjago 🤔. I KNOW I’d heard it before, so when I saw the clip I didn’t really react because I’ve heard that information somewhere…..I don’t remember where
Your portal gate theory is kind of wrong because there is a monastery for every realm
1:52 I always hated this. Having the Overlord literally never being able to die, and he can just come back whenever he feels like really annoys me. It does kind of make sense when you think about it. The overlord is the embodiment of darkness and evil so as long as there is darkness in the world, he theoretically could always be around. But just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should and I don’t like that the show runners decided to do this. Now whenever the writers want they can just bring the overlord back for the fourth time, even though he’s a very boring and uninteresting villain
There is theory that the overlord is fsm brother and he is part oni and dragon like him it would be great and the next time the overload will bring the oni back and uses them to attack the ninja and i hope they will fix the oni and overlord say that the reason that the ninja managed to defeat him because he wasn't at full power and the fsm managed to weekend him and take a lot time to recover and he returns with body that is part oni and dragon and hope the writers fix the overload as well
I love your theories but one thing
I know i've asked this quiet sometimes, and sorry if it annoys you if i ask it again but have you finished watching LMK? if not what season of it are you in?
If you're having a tough time watching S1, things pick up in S2, and S3 and S4 are the most loved seasons by fans.
Again sorry if i said anything wrong.
but i thought the Merlopians and island people claimed that they originated in the realm of ninjago and that the first spinjitzu master arrived there, retconning the original story?
yeah they did. it can be assumed that FSM went to similar barren places and created their central landmasses
Hey, why is the discord server not there anymore?
It could’ve been a good place to theorise
How do we know that the first spinjitzu master didn’t encounter Zane as the ice emperor? We know it wasn’t a bad place before Vex manipulated Zane. And if time works differently, it is very plausible that in the couple hundred ninjago years since he passed, he could’ve visited the never realm 10-20 years into Zane’s reign
from s8-15 they were trying to humanize tfsm more, with how he was just a child at 1 point, and how he didnt actually create ninjago the realm, just the island. this feels like its going the opposite direction of that, and did he create the other realms or did he "create" them like he did with ninjago? and if they are going tfsm = god route then he basically abandonded 3 of "his" realms because ninjago was obv his fav, dr julien levels of messed up
The time moving difrently in the never realm makes no sense because if that was the case the Ninja would have been back after 1 hour
How am I only just noticing that ninjago and the dark island are both dragon shaped wtf
love the imagery of those two islands. so sick
Here to say so nobody else does 1st 😅
You are a good man, my friend.
@@The_Watcher_0 thank you co Co cola
there's 1 issue with your theory is that there are 5 realms with humans in it not 4 the admistration also has humans and might also have a gate to it since zane ends up there according to trailers
i think the administration is a bunch of people from different realms given that jay seems to be there
@@Crusty783 yeah but there should have been someone there before the merge
1:49 Crusty needs to rewatch season 3 because oh my FSM his return in in Reebooted makes way less sense. He littelery just keeps listing the wrong problems with Crystalized yeah the season is bad but not this kind of stuff.
Wait wasn't the Serpetinr created by the First Spinjitzu master?
Yes
Ok, so one confusing thing, not abt the video, but about the ninjago timeline(not totally related to the realms, but I figured why not ask), is: when we're The Golden Peaks made? It's said multiple times that the first spinjitsu master created ninjago using the golden weapons. The weapons said to be made *using the Golden Peaks' molten gold.* But the Golden Peaks are... part if Ninjago??? Idk, but this seems a bit messy, and if anyone has an answer plz tell me
The realm of Ninjago existed before the First Spinjitzu Master although it was mostly just comprised of the endless sea and a couple small islands (Island of the Keepers for example). Golden Peaks must have been there before he did.
@@Crusty783 thank u
Wait it’s 15 realms departed and dijinejago are gone 16 if you count prime empire
14, Cursed and Djinjago are destroyed, and Prime Empire has been confirmed to not be a realm
@@Shaia_TeamLCE yeah, I know I technically included Ninjago
@@Shaia_TeamLCE There are 17 realms in total. Ninjago, The Underworld, The Realm of Madness, The Cloud Kingdom, Chima, The Departed Realm, The Cursed Realm, Djinjago, The First Realm, The Never Realm, Imperium, Realm of Lee, The Administration, and 4 unknown realms
@@shortstackofpancakes13 There were 16 from the beginning, Ninjago included. Two were destroyed, Djinjago and Cursed. There are 14 realms left
4th realm is mysterium fron s2 dragon rising bc there are humans and an 3 monestery
That makes sense like wow
Great predictions
i think he made 5 realms, with one of them being ninjago so he made 4 others
Do you still respond to comments 8 months later? If so I have a statement that would change your mind regarding the frozen realm
yo
@@Crusty783 hold on lemme try and remember what I was going to say
I wonder what happens to Krux and acronix
Only problem I have with this theory is regarding the never realm. If FSM checked up on it and realised how harsh and chaotic it is, why wouldn't he just fix the conditions? I find it hard to believe that a guy who creates worlds would just abandon the never realm. Other than that I think this theory is great!
Never realm was just extremely far compared to the other realms but Zane’s rule over the realm is when it was extreme cold and chaotic and I’m sure it wasn’t like that when First Spinjitsu master was around and that really isn’t his job lol
i think he wrongly assumed all life had went extinct there and it was beyond saving
I mean he abandoned the first realm (the one with oni and dragons) cuz he wasn't able to stop the fighting of the oni and the dragons, so I think he would also abandon this too, if he thinks that the realm is too chaotic or something.
now he gotta make a video on s2
already cooking something up! think i'm gonna talk about Kai. although the mysterium monastery does throw a wrench into my portal gate speculation 😅
This new lore is really intriguing, I love it. I hope it gets expand upon later.
But the "time works different in the Never Realm" thing is a important plot point, it would have been cool to have it been mentioned in the show
it is mentioned:
"DECADES?! Time must be different here." -Lloyd
@@Crusty783 But they contradict that by Tommy saying that Zane was sent back in Time, so what is it now?
@@Crusty783it’s show us how powerful the first spinjitzu master really is I mean it’s make sense because he can make so many realms there’s 25 realms the whole time will we shouldn’t be surprises because ninjago have many secrets
This is new information? I genuinely thought this was already established years ago💀
There are actually 15 realms because djinjago and the cursed realm are destroyed
Four realms for the four golden weapons
good point!
My theory is that each weapon is correlated to one realm, the scythe of quakes is ninjago, the shurikens of ice is the never realm, nunchucks of lightning is emperium, and the sword of fire is cloud city.
Why not just assume the gates are for a safe spawn, the realm crystal is like a rick and morty portal you have 0 idea what ur getting into at least the gates have a place around them thats safe it would make a lot of sense to do that AND leave out the nether realm becuase the first spinjutsu master only went once and abandoned it he’d likely never want anyone to go there again so he wouldn’t make a gate, and if there’s other reasons for not making a gate you could assume the first spinjutsu master just simply couldn’t figure out the ninjago day to time passed in the nether realm ratio and deemed it too unpredictable to build a gate because what if he comes back and the gate is in a snowy mountain or a volcano or some other geological phenomenon that could develope in a very long amount of Time
The merge destroyed their ability to tell future
Brugh my dumbass legitimately thought they was reckoning all of ninjago lore for this season, I’m genuinely glad they said he created other realms. Also I’m genuinely wondering why people got mad at this, kinda fits considering the fact that he created weapons that can control the elements themselves
What if he created children in the other realms he made so that they would be their protector when he died just like how Wu has taken care of Ninjago and bestowed that down to Lloyd
*Garmadon and Wu.
Well Yeah but I said created children in other realms like besides Ninjago where he created Garmadon and Wu @@krystelpines106
@@tylerbrowne8432 I think a good villain idea for Ninjago would be: the first living being that the FSM created.
my problem is not that he made other relms my problem is that first we lurn he didnt evenm creat ninjago he just rose the land now we lurn he didnt even rase the land with the golden weapons it was the source drasgons thats why i have a problem
Crystalized is the best season.
Interesting
I have a theory what if zanes father is from impirium i have no proff just a theory