...and for far too many who have incorporated those beliefs into their personality, into the "core" of who they are, it's also an attack on their personality. For some, it's apparently even worse than if you called them an idiot or a**hole...
This is why I don't bother arguing whether god is real or not anymore. If theists are going to consider it an attack, whether I reject their claims or reject their god, I might as well just skip the middleman and reject their god.
@@LadyDoomsinger, Check out this reply I got when I asked a Christian to prove his religious claims. Notice how he changed what evolution really is. I quote: "@JesusProtects @JesusProtects 8 hours ago @samuelschick8813 is called intelligent design, and it should be obvious. Now, evolution claims that something came out of literally nothing by itself, that's a fantasy. "
Attacks to one's beliefs can trigger the same psychosomatic, physiological, amygdala response, known as the backfire effect, as a physical threat, and can cause people to double down on their beliefs, no matter how dumb such beliefs might seem to others.
The fact he can say atheists are deliberately refusing to hear his arguments IN A VIDEO ABOUT HOW HE WON'T ENGAGE WITH ATHEIST ARGUMENTS and not notice the massive hypocrisy is stunning.
Just about everything he says is 100% projection. Also, Ive said it before that if their god exists he allows them to look like morons trying to go to bat for him. You would think their god could give them arguments that were good or convincing, yet ALWAYS fails to do so. What an impotent loser their god appears to be.
"Better to keep your mouth closed and thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt." Payton understands evolution in the same way flat earthers understand orbital mechanics.
Having looked into that idea, and those that present it, it is quite similar to religious people vs atheists. They tend to know a lot more about the subject than most people. Aka, they tend to know the ball model in much more detail than the random person does. Just saying, and no, I am not promoting either model:P
@@Goldenhawk583 Not really. When flat Earthers can produce a flat Earth map that is accurate to reality - distances, bearings for navigation etc, then we can talk. A lot of them will admit that they can't make an accurate map, as the Southern Hemisphere is a big problem for them. But others will say that a North Pole Centered Azimuthal Equidistant Projection map is it, ignoring the Southern Hemisphere problems, and calling anyone from the Southern Hemisphere that disagrees with them a liar.
Check out this reply I got from a Christian after I asked him to prove his God claim. Notice how he changes what evolution is: " @JesusProtects 10 hours ago @samuelschick8813 is called intelligent design, and it should be obvious. Now, evolution claims that something came out of literally nothing by itself, that's a fantasy. "
But a theory is THE BEST MODEL we have of what we observe and measure. The theory of evolution is the closest we come to a natural law and since Albert Eins … Darwin started finding out what was happening in nature, his model/theory has also evolved but not been turned upside down. If those frigging idiots could learn what ‘theory’ and ‘hypothesis’ really mean.🙄
Apparently, so is loneliness. I have to say, something that's really helping with my loneliness and depression addictions was volunteering, joining clubs, becoming a racetrack marshal... None of that had anything to do with religion though... But hey, if people find solace in God, good on them. I didn't. Not believing might have had something to do with that though...
Thanks! Peyton Shane literally does not know what atheists actually say, so he couldn't possibly debate an atheist. Not only is he unaware of the actual atheist positons, but he is not familiar with even the basic counter-arguments. He doesn't even rank as a street preacher.
yep! He's so naïve and ignorant it's almost funny. He also doesn't understand how burden of proof works. HE has to prove god exists, not the other way around.
J❤esus power. Starting now. So god has no say so if yr choice was to condemn others so what was done can't be undone.. even yr aura changes color. So when u die what color yr aura is what happens to u. Blue is safe orange u get recycled. Red straight to hell black straight to the abyss to bad for hell.were they come out locust in the end All judged by yr positive an negative emotions.through life All is automatically done .No one has to believe in a god to make it through. But believing in Jesus will reset yr aura back to purple celestrial.
He literally made an argument for starting with a conclusion and working your way backward... He doesn't know what a hypothesis is...or science. man, im glad i was required to do 160 hours of bio and 80 hours of Geo lab work to graduate high school. I hated it at the time but jeeeeeesh, im not a dummy like this guy.
In secondary 3, 4 and 5, each of my Introduction to Physical Sciences, chemistry, biology and mathematics courses individually totalled close to those 160 hours... Each year.
This kind of guy is exactly why I use my Christian education to cherry pick the most offensive bible verses. If your side can do it "dude", I can do it. Also... his God can be real all he wants, but I'd willingly walk into hell before worshipping an evil god for all eternity. So proving God's existence becomes pointless when I rejected him before I stopped believing.
Same! Even if the threat of hell is a real one, I wouldn't follow this God or this religion. I mean, that alone should speak for itself and is a question worth asking: would you really support a God who's willing to throw everyone into eternal suffering unless they become submissive and obedient towards Him?
He ended up on my YT feed a couple months ago. Poor young man has been mentally abused his entire life. Raised mormon, parents disowned him when he told them he didn't believe that nonsense. Lots of addictions/bad habits/etc, all by his young age. I don't normally feel bad for religious zealots, but I truly do feel bad for him, as he seems like a genuinely good deud. I truly wish him well and I hope he's able to overcome the religious trauma that keeps him from being able to think rationally
When people are growing, they often indulge in poor practices they gradually give up as they get older and wiser. Many 50-year-olds will have stories about bad behaviour they did in their youth.
I actually relate to this. I found a cartheist video not too long ago and at the end of the video, all I felt for her was pity. Yeah, she said all the horrible things that you might expect her to say, but she got herself worked up over her own message that by the end, I couldn't help but actually feel bad for her. I feel like it wasn't her fault that she ended up in that position. I even left a comment saying that there's help for her if she wants it, that she doesn't have to live so deeply in anxiety and fear over things that don't actually exist at all.
I'm getting the feeling that the cartheist replaced one addiction for another. At least the cartheist recorded his ramblings while in a parked car. But the projection coming from him...
There are people who don't debate because they don't want to deal with bad faith debates and repetition, and then there are people like this guy who just don't want to lose.
Personal experiences with faith are interesting because many people have found that their life experiences have deepened their faith in different religions. As a former Nichiren Buddhist, I used to see the ups and downs as proof that my Buddhist practice was working. The problems I faced were obstacles that came because my practice was expanding my life condition. By continuing to chant and study I was able to overcome the problems. In the end, I came to the conclusion that I was trained by my faith community to see bad things as challenges and good things as benefits. I quit chanting almost 4 years ago, because faith isn't really something I'm good at, my life has remained pretty much the same. I suspect that most religions teach their followers to see the world in a way that makes their personal life experiences seem to be evidence that their religion is true.
I'm over in the Philippines which the Catholic church basically owns. I had one apartment that was 2 blocks from a Catholic church, 2 blocks mind you. Well sleeping one night I was awakened at either 2 or 3 am by very loud Gregorian chanting which lasted until midnight. This went on for a week solid, starting at 2 or 3 am and stopping at midnight. This was so loud that even though the church was 2 blocks away, you could not watch TV or carry on a conversation without yelling. Welcome to Holy Week.
I, too, am an ex-Mormon. My 3rd great grandfather, William Draper Jr., knew Joseph Smith and was a personal friend of Brigham Young (2nd prophet). Draper had seven wives and is the man after whom Draper, Utah, is named. But when, in the spring of 79', I saw a confrontation between my Mormonism and science, I prayed and prayed and PRAYED for some kind of guidance from on high. NONE EVER CAME!!! God never even tried to help or "keep me in the fold". For 37 years I was agnostic, now I am atheist. Dear ol' Godfrey has never made any magical appearance in my life, though He has had thousands of chances to do so. If He wanted to keep me as a Christian, He could have put forth at least a little effort. (Maybe God is a lazy butthole.) As far as sinnin', I rarely lie, no longer steal (and that was things like pencils or notebooks from fellow grade-schoolers), and do not "go a whoring" and am a 59 y.o. virgin. I try to help poorer folks than I. Today I tried to donate to the Battered Women's Shelter (they were closed). How many "good Christians" on the streets about society do these kinds of things? Hey Skep, have you got a nose cold? You sound snuffy. We had a chill factor of -18 F last week here in SE Idaho. Today it's +40.
@@iamanowl26 if you define knowledge as belief in a position that is logically irrefutable, not only are you correct but it would mean that we know pretty much nothing. And that's why I avoid your definition of _agnostic_ ; it's too redundant and impractical. I don't need proof to hold a rational belief or know it's true; I just need strong evidence. Conversely, I don't need proof to reject a claim or know it's false; I just need utter lack of evidence in its favor and some evidence against it.
23:10 It shows a distinct lack of imagination or intelligence, when a person suggests that "self-preservation" inherently implies screwing other people over - if you go around being a jerk to everyone, those people are less likely to want to help you or be around you, which generally tends to be a detriment to your long-term prosperity.
People having attitudes like his disposes me to think that religion was developed partly in order to control people who couldn't work out how to control themselves.
So he thinks the big atheist argument is "the bible is wrong because it was written by men"? What a weird way to totally misunderstand basically everything.
probably because they like to say "where you there?" so often, they know deep down that stories that recount events before man was supposedly created are not credible eyewitness accounts...or when the gospel writer recounts private conversation between Pilate and his wife without explaining how and why he came to be hiding under the governor's bed 🤪
It's a good thing you never got into hard-core corn. The type of corn that appears normal, but has a really dense center. It's super addictive, and also bad for your teeth.
I always find it so telling when theists talk about how the only reason they're not horrible people is because they're afraid of what God will do to them after they die. Basically, they're legitimately horrible people and I hope they keep believing in God. Meanwhile, I'll be over here not believing and not need to believe because I don't need the fear of punishment to not be horrible.
It's funny. He tried to distance himself from animals. But at the same time admits he is just nice because of the rewards in heaven. Exactly the way we trains animals to be nice or even how we see bonds between different type of animals happen in nature. Because there is a reward for being nice and working together.
My fear of God is non existent, but my 'belief' in my future death, is absolute, and I am 100% certain once that time arrives, I will not live again in some weird spirit form, no longer able to enjoy 'being'...so, what 'purpose' does a magic spirit provide? To 'live' eternally as a dead vapor, holds no value to me. It actually is a serious case of psychosis, to assume we 'live' forever after we die...I hear that, and I immediately say: PSYCHOTIC... Sorry Peyton, you need more real education. You have no facts, evidence or proof. Personal claims, are not valid. PLEASE TRY AGAIN!
I feel for this guy. He's so close to the truth and can't see it. A couple of times he came so near to hitting the nail on the head, but turned the hammer in the wrong direction.
I’m almost convinced that the man upstairs looks like Jeff Bridges chilling in a cloud of smoke saying “Dude, I only have one commandment; thou shalt puff puff pass. Everything else, that’s your opinion.”
I doubt he was as well. I'm fairly sure he was raised by Christians in a Christian culture to be Christian, stopped being outwardly pious for a while, then became pious again. Even if he didn't believe in a god for a while, I doubt he was ever a rational skeptic.
He is dumber and more ignorant than your standard internet apologist, and that is saying something. What I think happened is that atheists stopped debating with him, because he has nothing intelligent to debate, and in order to save face he is projecting.
His projection and lack of self-awareness are epic. Does he really expect that we are supposed to fall in line because he says a fantastical thing is true?
@whenimmanicimgodly4228 Or the Israelites wrote mythology like other cultures from the ancient Near East and theologised their history like other cultures did? A couple of good articles from a Biblical scholar, referenced below. *"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei (This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies) *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
@epicofgilgamesh9964 I'm sorry if you took my comment seriously, but I was trying convey a sarcastic tone. I'm an ex youth pastor that studied the Bible and its religious history (as well as related and some unrelated religions as well) and know full well how rediculous the entire god concept is, I looked very hard for years for a god and the closest I ever felt to god was on 20 grams of magic mushrooms and MdMA, so I'm not sure that's good evidence for his existance. It's all mythology, clearly.
@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 . Given that much of the early Bible writings are nothing more than invented Israelite history, I would say yes. Did they intend to deceive as such, probably not?
@@Wolf-ln1mlI started using weed at 15 I’m celebrating my 67th birthday today 😉 and I do not ramble on like that. I also don’t feel persecuted when someone disagrees with me and have never believed in the supernatural or sky wizards. Weed isn’t his problem it just the conduit.
The "they just want to sin" claim is so annoying. If I was a sociopath who wanted to do what ever I wanted, I would actually prefer that there was a god who forgives everything as long as one apologizes to it, without making any amends to the victims or facing consequences.
We dont accept the bible as evidence, not because it was writen by men, but because if we acepted a book to prove itself... we would then have to accept Harry Potter and Lord of the Ring and Twilight and Narnia, et cetera ad infinitum because now a book existing would be evidence enough to prove everything it says exists.
We can observe the big bang. The James Webb telescope has shown us galaxies formed right after the event. And while there is a lot to learn, they are formed pretty much as astronomers have predicted.
When a guy like this says he wasn't indoctrinated, I'd love to know his family history. In many cases they were raised in a Christian home, attended church since birth and actually mean they weren't convinced until they started reading apologetics. The indoctrination has already happened, its already ingrained in him that the Christian faith is the right one, then using confirmation bias he begins his research.
Videos like this...make me very happy that the ability to make and put videos of myself online wasn't possible when I was his age. All I can hope is that when he grows up he'll look back and cringe at this video, having grown past this.
Well, I have to say in this one video he almost completely filled my apologist bingo card. I have to give them credit, with the exception of people who wrote entire books it's rare that one short off the cuff video would have so many different apologist "arguments" in it.
Cartheist literally wrote "The Bible is the Red Pill" in his bio, that tells you all you need to know about his vibe if you've been on the internet for more than a week.
17:19 he starts to list the sins. It's interesting how the very same things he list, the biblical God commits or commands other to commit. Then at 17:29 he says " sin is sin" so that makes God the biggest sinner of all time if ' sin is sin". But we all know he will have an excuse why "sin is sin" does not apply to God.
The good book says that God told Adam and Eve that if they ate the forbidden fruit they would die that very day. That was the first lie in the Bible. God was the first sinner. The serpent was right.
“Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence”. Carl Sagan. “Claims made without evidence ca be dismissed without evidence”. Christopher Hitchens. So if you are going to make a claim based on bronze-age mythology, the burden of proof is entirely on you to prove your case, NOT cast the burden on others to DISprove your hypothesis. That’s how science works and WHY religion doesn’t.
22:58 Your purpose in life is simply to exist, that's why we reproduce, to continue to exist! I can't believe so many smart people have struggled with such a simple answer to such a simple question.
So his entire body of evidence is an explanation of why his brain would believe in god for its own safety regardless of god's existence... Am I missing something?
19:33 And there it is. The selfish narcissist reveals himself. He doesn't care about anyone or anything if HE doesn't exist forever. So he can't imagine how anyone else would either. Kinda sad really. 22:50 Misogyny and more evidence that he is a selfish narcissist who doesn't see value in morality unless he is given a treat in a form of afterlife. Other species demonstrate niceness all the time! Has this guy never been around dogs or horses? Heck cats can be nice and they aren't even pack animals! Rats have shown altruism in experiments and I've seen a video of a duck putting stranded fish back in the water. Female vampire bats share their meal with females that couldn't feast that night. And yeah, for better or worse humans have acted like monkeys troughout our history. Take chimpanzees for example. They are capable of being kind to eachother, but also wage wars.
Every religion has "scripture" and believers with personal experience with that deity. Are kitsune real because there are stories about them interacting with humans? Or do those stories have to be in a book called The Bible?
I've never heard anyone say you can't use the bible as evidence because it was "written by men". It's because they're trying to use it as evidence for the stuff written in itself. What a lazy strawman
Ironically, that book is all you need to show what a bastard their hide and seek champion really is. The old testament is littered with all kinds of awfulness they conveniently glossed over in Sunday school class. Most of them are clueless to what's in their own damn book.
It's an incredibly lazy strawman, and he still can't really defeat it because the existence of physical evidence & research (not just articles, as he said) stand on their own, where the Bible has none of those.
Let's just ask him to explain and demonstrate his premises: What does he mean by "God", "How do you know?". That either ends the conversation or starts the slide to babble.
I don't get some people's hangups with "adult funtime". Especially Xtians tend to tell me that I'm an Atheist just to sin... in the bedroom. I then explain that I'm Aro/Ace, and people act like NOT wanting adult funtime is also a sin?! Like, wtf?
Religion (particularly Christianity) has used "adult funtime" as a way to exert control over people since...oh I don't know, forever. So it has a strong interest in promoting the idea that everyone wants to engage in that activity. People like yourself are not going to be able to be controlled as easily if you don't share the interest in that activity. Some people, particularly those who have been controlled, are going to get pissed at you because you've just proven that maybe what they were told wasn't true, and they are just realizing that they've been letting others control them. Once they open themselves up to the fact that they've been lied to and controlled, then they start to wonder about what else they were lied to about, and pretty soon, the whole house comes crashing down. It also opens up the possibility that maybe they too are "other" in some way and that treating you the way they have isn't very nice, and that people could find out about their otherness and start treating them the way they've been treating you. Nobody wants to admit that they aren't the person they think they were, and that they might have done better. In addition, if they have a place of power within the status quo, it means the possibility that they could lose that power, and that frightens them more than anything else.
Right around the 17:00 minute mark it’s heard said: “if you’re going to be a Christian you have to strive to give up all your sin.” But HOW could this even be possible if they also claim you’re BORN into it and can’t get rid of it?
"My videos aren't made for atheists" +Makes a video half-addressing and largely misrepresenting atheists and makes bad arguments for why atheists SHOULD believe in God+
Because it's easiest to misrepresent people if you bar them from correcting you. But who would do that if they truly believe the truth is on their side?
I can't accept that the only reason I should be a good person is so as not to break the rules of an imaginary being, I am a good person because I believe it is the right thing to do and because of my beliefs and my principles.
Does this mean growing corn in my garden is the reason I’m an atheist? Or do I grow corn because I’m an atheist? How do tomatoes and beans factor in? What about pumpkins?
@@TheSkepTick Uh oh, I grow all of that, along with broccoli, cabbage, melons (water, cantaloupe, and honeydew), and all manner of fruit trees. What does that mean for me?
5:06 You can get addicted to anything that changes your brain chemistry. Which I imagine corn can *technically* do, in as far as any other food item can. Having said that, Korn addiction is very real, I had it myself in my teens.
I was allergy addicted to chocolate in my teens and twenties. I didn't need any God or Goddess to help me stop. Cold turkey when I realized what the addiction was doing to my body. Quitting is not proof of a Deity.😅
He said "corn" as a substitute for the 'P' word that rhymes with corn. I think because he's concerned with demonetisation. Also, I think what he really wants to say here is that his mind is already made up and he's not about to change it for someone who says anything that doesn't confirm his bias. I always laugh when they say they "aren't going to debate" because it's a confession that they only want to hear from like-minded individuals. They have no interest in their thinking being challenged.
8:50 "Written by men" - those research papers don't also claim to be infallible. And if further evidence should come along that invalidates their conclusions the authors will readily alter their views. This is how knowledge increases. This is why we have all the modern conveniences, clean water, a reliable food supply, an ability to predict the weather far superior than just 30 years ago, etc. And the corrections will keep coming in. And our knowledge and related power will continue to grow. 14:19 No. First of all you don't _start out_ with a hypothesis. You start out with observations of natural phenomenon for which you don't understand the cause. A few steps later you form a hypothesis. Then you don't go out and search for evidence to prove your hypothesis. That is a straight line to confirmation bias. No, you consider all the ways your hypothesis could be _disproved._ And then you go on from there. No need to get into the details in this comment. But at the root of it all is observations of natural phenomena. This is why "the god of the gaps" so consistently fails. Every time we've succeeded in determining the cause of a natural phenomenon no god has been required. This has been the case for literally thousands of years. 15:10 We have archeological evidence, which tells us a whole lot about the past without resorting to written witness accounts. In fact, on the whole it is more reliable than those accounts. Things remarkable enough to be recorded by witnesses also often end up being exaggerated in witness accounts, for example the sizes of armies, the scale of monumental buildings, etc. 20:50 I was raised without religion, not as an "atheist", but simply in an environment where there was no particular importance given to any religions, a secular household. Throughout my life I've never seen any compelling evidence that leads me to belief in the existence of any gods or goddesses. That's all. It's as simple as that. 21:33 It's one thing to say, "I firmly believe God is real" and it's another to say, "God is real." Say the latter and you can expect some challenges, and that's the way it should be. 22:35 "Which I don't even want in the first place" - Fine. Then don't. If you don't want it then you don't need a supernatural being to keep you from doing it. Just do what you want and don't sleep around. - Peyton's thought processes are so confused. Life really isn't this complicated. But then, he is young. I'll admit I was a bit more confused at his age than I am now.
SkepTick, "corn" is RUclips slang for a different 4-letter word that rhymes, but starts with "P". Saying "corn" instead of the real word keeps them from getting demonetized, I guess.
SkepTick obviously knew that. He was playing around. Check the video description to see what I mean. Btw, I was reading YT Community Guidelines a few days ago and it turns out they can indeed demonetize or even terminate your channel if you swear too much. This is the most fucking ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Is this YT Kids or something?
corn... Corn ?... wha-?... this cartheist was a children of the corn , maybe? seems a tad young for that.. grandshildren of the corn maybe.. maybe theres a film with that title.
He wasn't indoctrinated, cool, but there is such a thing as self-indoctrination, and I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he did. It's extremely easy to convince yourself of weird beliefs and behaviors when you're feeling lost and empty and looking for answers to escape this horrible situation.
I'm reasonably sure when he says corn, he is referring to porn. People on social media call it corn sometimes to avoid demonetization or posts being taken down
"The atheists don't want to accept my proof!" I guess he doesn't understand that subjective experiences he can't even demonstrate happened aren't proof of God. At best, just proof he had some sort of experience. "I can't use the Bible because it was written by men." I never used that silly argument. The Bible isn't proof or reliable evidence because it hasn't been shown to be true, itself. None of the miracle God stories have been supported as true. In fact, we know many of the stories, as written, never even happened. So the Bible lacks credibility. Ya can't whine if your sucky evidence isn't convincing to other people.
As a former believer myself, I know that sometimes when someone has doubts about their faith, they try to compensate (atone?) via public outbursts against atheists. I don't know whether that's relevant in this particular case--but I am pretty sure that "corn" is a euphemism for "porn."
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remember… REJECTING a theist’s CLAIMS is an ATTACK on their beliefs.
...and for far too many who have incorporated those beliefs into their personality, into the "core" of who they are, it's also an attack on their personality. For some, it's apparently even worse than if you called them an idiot or a**hole...
This is why I don't bother arguing whether god is real or not anymore.
If theists are going to consider it an attack, whether I reject their claims or reject their god, I might as well just skip the middleman and reject their god.
@@LadyDoomsinger, Check out this reply I got when I asked a Christian to prove his religious claims. Notice how he changed what evolution really is. I quote:
"@JesusProtects
@JesusProtects
8 hours ago
@samuelschick8813 is called intelligent design, and it should be obvious. Now, evolution claims that something came out of literally nothing by itself, that's a fantasy. "
They're so pErSeCuTeD!
Attacks to one's beliefs can trigger the same psychosomatic, physiological, amygdala response, known as the backfire effect, as a physical threat, and can cause people to double down on their beliefs, no matter how dumb such beliefs might seem to others.
Does anyone else think he looks like forrest valkai's evil twin? 😂🤣
I did a double take at the thumbnail.
His appearance is a bit like Forrest, but this Tserrof Iaklav is mentally the complete opposite.
He should have a gotee.
Mum, can we have Forrest Valkai?
Mum: we have Forrest Valkai at home.
Forrest Valkai at home:
Now I want Forrest to react to this dude. Haha.
The fact he can say atheists are deliberately refusing to hear his arguments IN A VIDEO ABOUT HOW HE WON'T ENGAGE WITH ATHEIST ARGUMENTS and not notice the massive hypocrisy is stunning.
I wonder how he'd feel about the Bible verses stating that hypocrites don't get into heaven...
Just about everything he says is 100% projection.
Also, Ive said it before that if their god exists he allows them to look like morons trying to go to bat for him. You would think their god could give them arguments that were good or convincing, yet ALWAYS fails to do so. What an impotent loser their god appears to be.
He's not the brightest bulb in the box, "dude."
Rule for thee, but not for me...
"Better to keep your mouth closed and thought a fool than open it and remove all doubt." Payton understands evolution in the same way flat earthers understand orbital mechanics.
Or mechanics. Or maths. Or anything.
@@setojurai Remember, Flat Earthers have believers all around the globe!
Having looked into that idea, and those that present it, it is quite similar to religious people vs atheists. They tend to know a lot more about the subject than most people.
Aka, they tend to know the ball model in much more detail than the random person does.
Just saying, and no, I am not promoting either model:P
Well, they know parts of it, but they can't see the forest for those trees.
@@Goldenhawk583 Not really. When flat Earthers can produce a flat Earth map that is accurate to reality - distances, bearings for navigation etc, then we can talk. A lot of them will admit that they can't make an accurate map, as the Southern Hemisphere is a big problem for them. But others will say that a North Pole Centered Azimuthal Equidistant Projection map is it, ignoring the Southern Hemisphere problems, and calling anyone from the Southern Hemisphere that disagrees with them a liar.
"Evolution is a theory."
Going down stairs to get a shot of whiskey and become Sir Sic for a while . . .
a shot? as in 1?
so you'll be channeling Sir Sic for approximately 5 seconds?
Check out this reply I got from a Christian after I asked him to prove his God claim. Notice how he changes what evolution is:
"
@JesusProtects
10 hours ago
@samuelschick8813 is called intelligent design, and it should be obvious. Now, evolution claims that something came out of literally nothing by itself, that's a fantasy. "
@@silverharloe I think he was using Sir Sic measurements, 1 shot = 1 bottle 😅
But a theory is THE BEST MODEL we have of what we observe and measure. The theory of evolution is the closest we come to a natural law and since Albert Eins … Darwin started finding out what was happening in nature, his model/theory has also evolved but not been turned upside down.
If those frigging idiots could learn what ‘theory’ and ‘hypothesis’ really mean.🙄
@@SoundbrigadeIf those idiots could learn at all, that would be a start.
Cartheist's beliefs are not low-hanging fruit... they are the rotting fruit on the ground.
Unfortunately this country seems to have an almost endless supply of that rotting fruit.
Poor lad isn't the shapest tool in the shed, He's the hole in the shed roof.
At this point they're fossil fruit cuz they went beneath ground
I feel that presupps are the rotting fruit on the ground.
And before long it will fermented to alcohol. That could become interesting.
Wait, depression is an addiction now? The FUCK?!
😂😂
Cartheist probably believes it's all demons.
Some people are lucky, I'm only addicted to my anxiety. lol
Apparently, so is loneliness.
I have to say, something that's really helping with my loneliness and depression addictions was volunteering, joining clubs, becoming a racetrack marshal... None of that had anything to do with religion though... But hey, if people find solace in God, good on them. I didn't. Not believing might have had something to do with that though...
Thanks! Peyton Shane literally does not know what atheists actually say, so he couldn't possibly debate an atheist. Not only is he unaware of the actual atheist positons, but he is not familiar with even the basic counter-arguments. He doesn't even rank as a street preacher.
yep! He's so naïve and ignorant it's almost funny. He also doesn't understand how burden of proof works. HE has to prove god exists, not the other way around.
Definitely low hanging fruit!
Or should I say corn?
@@romazone101 more like turnips or radishes.
He won't debate atheists because he's scared.
Spoiler Alert: Cartheist didn't provide any evidence.
And whines about it. He’s genuinely annoying.
😳
When do they ever?
J❤esus power. Starting now.
So god has no say so if yr choice was to condemn others so what was done can't be undone.. even yr aura changes color. So when u die what color yr aura is what happens to u. Blue is safe orange u get recycled. Red straight to hell black straight to the abyss to bad for hell.were they come out locust in the end All judged by yr positive an negative emotions.through life All is automatically done .No one has to believe in a god to make it through. But believing in Jesus will reset yr aura back to purple celestrial.
damnit george! well, its not like i expected to be presented with decent evidence
He literally made an argument for starting with a conclusion and working your way backward... He doesn't know what a hypothesis is...or science. man, im glad i was required to do 160 hours of bio and 80 hours of Geo lab work to graduate high school. I hated it at the time but jeeeeeesh, im not a dummy like this guy.
Aren't you glad now? 😂
In secondary 3, 4 and 5, each of my Introduction to Physical Sciences, chemistry, biology and mathematics courses individually totalled close to those 160 hours... Each year.
Nothing worth while is ever easy.
That being said, I'm glad you were lucky enough to receive a proper education.
This is so true. We really need more rigorous science education much earlier in our schooling.
The fact that he thinks a theory in science is just a baseless assumption tells us a lot about his lack of education.
This kind of guy is exactly why I use my Christian education to cherry pick the most offensive bible verses.
If your side can do it "dude", I can do it.
Also... his God can be real all he wants, but I'd willingly walk into hell before worshipping an evil god for all eternity. So proving God's existence becomes pointless when I rejected him before I stopped believing.
Same! Even if the threat of hell is a real one, I wouldn't follow this God or this religion. I mean, that alone should speak for itself and is a question worth asking: would you really support a God who's willing to throw everyone into eternal suffering unless they become submissive and obedient towards Him?
He ended up on my YT feed a couple months ago. Poor young man has been mentally abused his entire life. Raised mormon, parents disowned him when he told them he didn't believe that nonsense. Lots of addictions/bad habits/etc, all by his young age. I don't normally feel bad for religious zealots, but I truly do feel bad for him, as he seems like a genuinely good deud. I truly wish him well and I hope he's able to overcome the religious trauma that keeps him from being able to think rationally
Oh wow. Interesting info, thanks.
When people are growing, they often indulge in poor practices they gradually give up as they get older and wiser.
Many 50-year-olds will have stories about bad behaviour they did in their youth.
Indeed.
@@grahvis Sure, but most people learn from their poor practices rather than use those practices to indulge in self delusion.
I actually relate to this. I found a cartheist video not too long ago and at the end of the video, all I felt for her was pity. Yeah, she said all the horrible things that you might expect her to say, but she got herself worked up over her own message that by the end, I couldn't help but actually feel bad for her. I feel like it wasn't her fault that she ended up in that position. I even left a comment saying that there's help for her if she wants it, that she doesn't have to live so deeply in anxiety and fear over things that don't actually exist at all.
I'm getting the feeling that the cartheist replaced one addiction for another. At least the cartheist recorded his ramblings while in a parked car. But the projection coming from him...
Perhaps he's trying to open a new drive in theater. Projecting from his car.
Drive-in IMAX! @@stevewebber707
Hell he can record while flying down the highway at 75 mph without seat belts or airbags. After all, he's wearing the armor of God. LOL
That reminds me of an old Cheech and Chong bit:
"I used to be all fcked up on drugs. Now I'm all fcked up on the Lord!" 😅
There are people who don't debate because they don't want to deal with bad faith debates and repetition, and then there are people like this guy who just don't want to lose.
Personal experiences with faith are interesting because many people have found that their life experiences have deepened their faith in different religions. As a former Nichiren Buddhist, I used to see the ups and downs as proof that my Buddhist practice was working. The problems I faced were obstacles that came because my practice was expanding my life condition. By continuing to chant and study I was able to overcome the problems. In the end, I came to the conclusion that I was trained by my faith community to see bad things as challenges and good things as benefits. I quit chanting almost 4 years ago, because faith isn't really something I'm good at, my life has remained pretty much the same. I suspect that most religions teach their followers to see the world in a way that makes their personal life experiences seem to be evidence that their religion is true.
I'm over in the Philippines which the Catholic church basically owns. I had one apartment that was 2 blocks from a Catholic church, 2 blocks mind you. Well sleeping one night I was awakened at either 2 or 3 am by very loud Gregorian chanting which lasted until midnight. This went on for a week solid, starting at 2 or 3 am and stopping at midnight. This was so loud that even though the church was 2 blocks away, you could not watch TV or carry on a conversation without yelling. Welcome to Holy Week.
Very true, regardless of your beliefs it is hard not to fall victim to confirmation bias. Something we all need to be aware of.
The bizzaro world Forrest Valkai
I can’t unsee it now
Lmao, I'm glad I'm not the only one to see it
Why did you make me see this? I'll never be able to unsee it
uncanny 😳
@@byronjefferson1697 I thought Forrest was doing a guest spot when I saw the thumbnail on my phone.
He keeps using the word "evidence". I don't think it means what he thinks it means. 😅
Drinking game: Take a shot every time this guy says dude... I pre-booked my ambulance
Almost as annoying as "bro".
Dude, bro, bruh, brah...ALL IGNORANT GHETTO WORDS!
DOES HE SAY THE SAME THING WHEN ADDRESSING WOMEN?
Poor grammar is PROOF he has a low intellect.
Lol
"Why do atheists comment on my videos?" 😢
Because the Marketplace of Ideas comes for all, especially for those talking crap ⚔️
@rboland2173 that's a good one
I, too, am an ex-Mormon. My 3rd great grandfather, William Draper Jr., knew Joseph Smith and was a personal friend of Brigham Young (2nd prophet). Draper had seven wives and is the man after whom Draper, Utah, is named. But when, in the spring of 79', I saw a confrontation between my Mormonism and science, I prayed and prayed and PRAYED for some kind of guidance from on high. NONE EVER CAME!!! God never even tried to help or "keep me in the fold". For 37 years I was agnostic, now I am atheist. Dear ol' Godfrey has never made any magical appearance in my life, though He has had thousands of chances to do so. If He wanted to keep me as a Christian, He could have put forth at least a little effort. (Maybe God is a lazy butthole.) As far as sinnin', I rarely lie, no longer steal (and that was things like pencils or notebooks from fellow grade-schoolers), and do not "go a whoring" and am a 59 y.o. virgin. I try to help poorer folks than I. Today I tried to donate to the Battered Women's Shelter (they were closed). How many "good Christians" on the streets about society do these kinds of things?
Hey Skep, have you got a nose cold? You sound snuffy. We had a chill factor of -18 F last week here in SE Idaho. Today it's +40.
It's not too late my friend. Go out there and find a willing partner. Sex is awesome.
I wish you all the happiness in the world, man
Technically EVERYONE is agnostic because nobody KNOWS for a fact either way
@@iamanowl26 if you define knowledge as belief in a position that is logically irrefutable, not only are you correct but it would mean that we know pretty much nothing. And that's why I avoid your definition of _agnostic_ ; it's too redundant and impractical. I don't need proof to hold a rational belief or know it's true; I just need strong evidence. Conversely, I don't need proof to reject a claim or know it's false; I just need utter lack of evidence in its favor and some evidence against it.
23:10 It shows a distinct lack of imagination or intelligence, when a person suggests that "self-preservation" inherently implies screwing other people over - if you go around being a jerk to everyone, those people are less likely to want to help you or be around you, which generally tends to be a detriment to your long-term prosperity.
People having attitudes like his disposes me to think that religion was developed partly in order to control people who couldn't work out how to control themselves.
Still waiting for theist ✌️"evidence"✌️ of their claims.
Me too!
Teh Byebul! The Byebul am teh werd uv Gawd becuz teh Byebul sez sew!
@@thekwjiboo I can't believe I actually tried to run your comment through Google translate. I feel almost as stupid as poor Peyton.
@@peterkotara careful with that lol, you'll melt their AI
So... he swapped a bunch of addictions... for one. And he thinks he is free of addiction.
So he thinks the big atheist argument is "the bible is wrong because it was written by men"? What a weird way to totally misunderstand basically everything.
probably because they like to say "where you there?" so often, they know deep down that stories that recount events before man was supposedly created are not credible eyewitness accounts...or when the gospel writer recounts private conversation between Pilate and his wife without explaining how and why he came to be hiding under the governor's bed 🤪
I get the feeling that he _knows_ that's not the reasoning, but he's too dishonest to admit the facts.
That's what happens when you "do your own research," ie. let your biases guide you.
I'm trying to kick the corn addiction. I'm down to a half bag of Fritos a day.
It's a good thing you never got into hard-core corn. The type of corn that appears normal, but has a really dense center. It's super addictive, and also bad for your teeth.
Fritos? Yuck. That's a hardcore perversion you're into there.
CORN FLAKES ROCK!@@joeyangtree1862
"Personal experiences" is another way of saying "it's all in my head."
The thought stopping techniques are strong with this one.
Just more proof how religion kills critical thinking skills.
I am duded out. I have had my lifetime's quota of hearing the word dude. Nobody can ever say dude to me again, dude.
I always find it so telling when theists talk about how the only reason they're not horrible people is because they're afraid of what God will do to them after they die.
Basically, they're legitimately horrible people and I hope they keep believing in God.
Meanwhile, I'll be over here not believing and not need to believe because I don't need the fear of punishment to not be horrible.
It's funny. He tried to distance himself from animals. But at the same time admits he is just nice because of the rewards in heaven. Exactly the way we trains animals to be nice or even how we see bonds between different type of animals happen in nature. Because there is a reward for being nice and working together.
My fear of God is non existent, but my 'belief' in my future death, is absolute, and I am 100% certain once that time arrives, I will not live again in some weird spirit form, no longer able to enjoy 'being'...so, what 'purpose' does a magic spirit provide?
To 'live' eternally as a dead vapor, holds no value to me. It actually is a serious case of psychosis, to assume we 'live' forever after we die...I hear that, and I immediately say: PSYCHOTIC...
Sorry Peyton, you need more real education.
You have no facts, evidence or proof.
Personal claims, are not valid.
PLEASE TRY AGAIN!
Methinks that he is a former partaker of the "grass."
"Jesus teaches me how to speak slowly and slurring, as if I were completely stoned. But without any weed! Cool! Thank you, Jesus!" 😂
I can picture him being a surfer dude being high and explaining his enlightenment to a bro.
I used to be addicted to corn.
Oh no, sorry, that was heroin I was thinking of.
I feel for this guy. He's so close to the truth and can't see it. A couple of times he came so near to hitting the nail on the head, but turned the hammer in the wrong direction.
I’m almost convinced that the man upstairs looks like Jeff Bridges chilling in a cloud of smoke saying “Dude, I only have one commandment; thou shalt puff puff pass. Everything else, that’s your opinion.”
Yeah, that guy was never an athiest.
I doubt he was as well. I'm fairly sure he was raised by Christians in a Christian culture to be Christian, stopped being outwardly pious for a while, then became pious again. Even if he didn't believe in a god for a while, I doubt he was ever a rational skeptic.
Dude strawmans every single argument and then doesn't even really knock them down.
He is dumber and more ignorant than your standard internet apologist, and that is saying something.
What I think happened is that atheists stopped debating with him, because he has nothing intelligent to debate, and in order to save face he is projecting.
Man getting your butt beaten by your own strawman is funny.
So, what he's saying is he substituted one addiction for another. He just reads what's on the paper he used to build his joints with.
Bingo.
Atheists watch your videos Payton because you're comedy gold.
His projection and lack of self-awareness are epic. Does he really expect that we are supposed to fall in line because he says a fantastical thing is true?
Yes it's not evidence when it's Bronze Age and Iron Age mythology and fairy tales.
Idk about that, the bible says it's true. Do you really think someone would do that? Just publish a book and tell lies?
@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 yes they most definitely would
@whenimmanicimgodly4228 Or the Israelites wrote mythology like other cultures from the ancient Near East and theologised their history like other cultures did?
A couple of good articles from a Biblical scholar, referenced below.
*"Studying the Bible"* - by Dr Steven DiMattei
(This particular article from a critical Biblical scholar highlights how the authors of the Hebrew Bible used their *fictional* god as a mouthpiece for their own views and ideologies)
*"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history?"* -- by Dr Steven DiMattei
*"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them"* -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei
@epicofgilgamesh9964 I'm sorry if you took my comment seriously, but I was trying convey a sarcastic tone.
I'm an ex youth pastor that studied the Bible and its religious history (as well as related and some unrelated religions as well) and know full well how rediculous the entire god concept is, I looked very hard for years for a god and the closest I ever felt to god was on 20 grams of magic mushrooms and MdMA, so I'm not sure that's good evidence for his existance. It's all mythology, clearly.
@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 .
Given that much of the early Bible writings are nothing more than invented Israelite history, I would say yes.
Did they intend to deceive as such, probably not?
Touching grass? More like hes smoking it
Yea he definitely has not given up the weed. He's clearly baked in this video lol
Still waiting to see him touch grass
Or needs to.
@@dougm4160 It _could_ also be lasting effects (i.e. damage) of heavy and long-term weed abuse...
@@Wolf-ln1mlI started using weed at 15 I’m celebrating my 67th birthday today 😉 and I do not ramble on like that. I also don’t feel persecuted when someone disagrees with me and have never believed in the supernatural or sky wizards. Weed isn’t his problem it just the conduit.
4:50 freed him of his addictions like... corn? I mean, I get he's trying to get around censorship, but... corn? Really?! Pron is much easier to use.
I feel sad for him. He genuinely doesn’t understand the challenges and issues with theist claims.
The "they just want to sin" claim is so annoying. If I was a sociopath who wanted to do what ever I wanted, I would actually prefer that there was a god who forgives everything as long as one apologizes to it, without making any amends to the victims or facing consequences.
We dont accept the bible as evidence, not because it was writen by men, but because if we acepted a book to prove itself... we would then have to accept Harry Potter and Lord of the Ring and Twilight and Narnia, et cetera ad infinitum because now a book existing would be evidence enough to prove everything it says exists.
We can observe the big bang. The James Webb telescope has shown us galaxies formed right after the event. And while there is a lot to learn, they are formed pretty much as astronomers have predicted.
As an atheist I don't reject any evidence for God. There is no evidence to reject in the first place.
"But what about all the testimonies of lives changed?! How can you reject Cthulhu?!"
@@archapmangcmg "Cthulhu can't exist because I didn't get eaten first."
@@RichWoods23 Ia Ia Cthulhu ftagn!
@necropink9200 well technically it's only bad evidence, but it's still SOME form of evidence...
When a guy like this says he wasn't indoctrinated, I'd love to know his family history. In many cases they were raised in a Christian home, attended church since birth and actually mean they weren't convinced until they started reading apologetics. The indoctrination has already happened, its already ingrained in him that the Christian faith is the right one, then using confirmation bias he begins his research.
The could have been called "DUDE!!! Where's My Evidence?"
he's Forest valkais evil lackluster twin
Videos like this...make me very happy that the ability to make and put videos of myself online wasn't possible when I was his age.
All I can hope is that when he grows up he'll look back and cringe at this video, having grown past this.
Corn is probably just a censored version of adult videos.
Without doubt.
There might be a kernel of truth to that. 😉
Found that weird after calling money corn my whole life.
I've heard it called a "corn addiction" before
@@klever...1 Corn addiption?
Sorry, that was a bit porny.
Well, I have to say in this one video he almost completely filled my apologist bingo card. I have to give them credit, with the exception of people who wrote entire books it's rare that one short off the cuff video would have so many different apologist "arguments" in it.
Thanks! Cars… the perfect recording studio.
Cartheist literally wrote "The Bible is the Red Pill" in his bio, that tells you all you need to know about his vibe if you've been on the internet for more than a week.
I still can't tell if he thinks The Matrix is a documentary or if he's just bad at metaphors.
I’m so glad i found this channel! 😂 pure comedy from the Christians lack of awareness and the commentary
I’m glad you’re here!
Ain’t he precious?? Dumber than a sack of rocks, but precious!
Is he both saying that he was a real Atheist before his conversion AND that there's no such thing as a real Atheist?
KoЯn addiction is no joke.
😂
17:19 he starts to list the sins. It's interesting how the very same things he list, the biblical God commits or commands other to commit. Then at 17:29 he says " sin is sin" so that makes God the biggest sinner of all time if ' sin is sin". But we all know he will have an excuse why "sin is sin" does not apply to God.
The good book says that God told Adam and Eve that if they ate the forbidden fruit they would die that very day. That was the first lie in the Bible. God was the first sinner. The serpent was right.
“Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence”. Carl Sagan.
“Claims made without evidence ca be dismissed without evidence”. Christopher Hitchens.
So if you are going to make a claim based on bronze-age mythology, the burden of proof is entirely on you to prove your case, NOT cast the burden on others to DISprove your hypothesis. That’s how science works and WHY religion doesn’t.
I heard corn as well, but I think it was actually porn addiction, at least that makes a lot more sense to me
Peyton thinks it was a tow rally...pull and tug...
What a 'stroke' of genius he is not!
Kids, this is why you shouldn’t do drugs. Even though he claims to have quit, the dain bramage from use is obvious.
Seems like heroin or meth use. Cannabis doesn't do this.
He's got Hans Wormhat's voice.
22:58 Your purpose in life is simply to exist, that's why we reproduce, to continue to exist! I can't believe so many smart people have struggled with such a simple answer to such a simple question.
So his entire body of evidence is an explanation of why his brain would believe in god for its own safety regardless of god's existence... Am I missing something?
19:33 And there it is. The selfish narcissist reveals himself. He doesn't care about anyone or anything if HE doesn't exist forever. So he can't imagine how anyone else would either. Kinda sad really.
22:50 Misogyny and more evidence that he is a selfish narcissist who doesn't see value in morality unless he is given a treat in a form of afterlife.
Other species demonstrate niceness all the time! Has this guy never been around dogs or horses? Heck cats can be nice and they aren't even pack animals! Rats have shown altruism in experiments and I've seen a video of a duck putting stranded fish back in the water. Female vampire bats share their meal with females that couldn't feast that night.
And yeah, for better or worse humans have acted like monkeys troughout our history. Take chimpanzees for example. They are capable of being kind to eachother, but also wage wars.
Every religion has "scripture" and believers with personal experience with that deity.
Are kitsune real because there are stories about them interacting with humans? Or do those stories have to be in a book called The Bible?
I rewrote the Wellerman shanty to suit my thoughts, can I refer to ig as scripture?
Well clearly kitsune aren't willing to be his best friend, so what would be the point in believing something true if it doesn't benefit him?
As a former stoner, I'm pretty sure this dude is high af.
I've never heard anyone say you can't use the bible as evidence because it was "written by men". It's because they're trying to use it as evidence for the stuff written in itself. What a lazy strawman
The only people who say that are theists' straw men of atheists.
Ironically, that book is all you need to show what a bastard their hide and seek champion really is. The old testament is littered with all kinds of awfulness they conveniently glossed over in Sunday school class.
Most of them are clueless to what's in their own damn book.
It's an incredibly lazy strawman, and he still can't really defeat it because the existence of physical evidence & research (not just articles, as he said) stand on their own, where the Bible has none of those.
Let's just ask him to explain and demonstrate his premises: What does he mean by "God", "How do you know?".
That either ends the conversation or starts the slide to babble.
The two lenses we view evidence about God are "With God" and "Without God" 'dude'. This is literally the definition of presupositionalism.
This dude is so whiny. He’s actually this upset that his unsubstantiated, fallacious testimony isn’t converting people. Poor guy 😢
He can't say the word that rhymes with corn and keep his monetization. A silly rule.
Corn porn?
I think Shane is talking about jeebus while inbibing some cannibis. His eyes tell all.
I am just gonna go ahead and assume he meant "Khorne". Another Cultist turned away from the great enemy. Praise the Emperor.
The emperor protects
"Blessed is the mind too small for doubt."
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Anywho, religion is a big scam!
_polite clapping_
I'd go as far to say, that life is a scam.
@@tommyvictorbuch6960 Go get your money back.
I don't get some people's hangups with "adult funtime". Especially Xtians tend to tell me that I'm an Atheist just to sin... in the bedroom. I then explain that I'm Aro/Ace, and people act like NOT wanting adult funtime is also a sin?! Like, wtf?
Religion (particularly Christianity) has used "adult funtime" as a way to exert control over people since...oh I don't know, forever. So it has a strong interest in promoting the idea that everyone wants to engage in that activity. People like yourself are not going to be able to be controlled as easily if you don't share the interest in that activity.
Some people, particularly those who have been controlled, are going to get pissed at you because you've just proven that maybe what they were told wasn't true, and they are just realizing that they've been letting others control them. Once they open themselves up to the fact that they've been lied to and controlled, then they start to wonder about what else they were lied to about, and pretty soon, the whole house comes crashing down.
It also opens up the possibility that maybe they too are "other" in some way and that treating you the way they have isn't very nice, and that people could find out about their otherness and start treating them the way they've been treating you. Nobody wants to admit that they aren't the person they think they were, and that they might have done better.
In addition, if they have a place of power within the status quo, it means the possibility that they could lose that power, and that frightens them more than anything else.
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Right around the 17:00 minute mark it’s heard said: “if you’re going to be a Christian you have to strive to give up all your sin.” But HOW could this even be possible if they also claim you’re BORN into it and can’t get rid of it?
"My videos aren't made for atheists"
+Makes a video half-addressing and largely misrepresenting atheists and makes bad arguments for why atheists SHOULD believe in God+
Because it's easiest to misrepresent people if you bar them from correcting you. But who would do that if they truly believe the truth is on their side?
I can't accept that the only reason I should be a good person is so as not to break the rules of an imaginary being, I am a good person because I believe it is the right thing to do and because of my beliefs and my principles.
Does this mean growing corn in my garden is the reason I’m an atheist? Or do I grow corn because I’m an atheist? How do tomatoes and beans factor in? What about pumpkins?
Pumpkins is more evolution theory. Cucumbers means you accept big bang cosmology.
@@TheSkepTick Uh oh, I grow all of that, along with broccoli, cabbage, melons (water, cantaloupe, and honeydew), and all manner of fruit trees. What does that mean for me?
@@DavidRichardson153 A lower grocery bill while having good food anyway?
he means porn. some people use "corn" instead of porn to avoid RUclips censorship.@@TheSkepTick
he means porn.@@DavidRichardson153
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5:06 You can get addicted to anything that changes your brain chemistry. Which I imagine corn can *technically* do, in as far as any other food item can.
Having said that, Korn addiction is very real, I had it myself in my teens.
I remember experimenting with Korn. Had some fun, but nothing really came of it.
I was allergy addicted to chocolate in my teens and twenties. I didn't need any God or Goddess to help me stop. Cold turkey when I realized what the addiction was doing to my body. Quitting is not proof of a Deity.😅
Cobs for the Cob God, Kernels for the Kernel Throne.
he means porn.
@@Alexander_Kale grant me the powers of the dark corns
He said "corn" as a substitute for the 'P' word that rhymes with corn. I think because he's concerned with demonetisation.
Also, I think what he really wants to say here is that his mind is already made up and he's not about to change it for someone who says anything that doesn't confirm his bias.
I always laugh when they say they "aren't going to debate" because it's a confession that they only want to hear from like-minded individuals. They have no interest in their thinking being challenged.
This is ridiculous and TikTok is the worst, you can't have an adult conversation on social media.
"Touching grass" is an insult used for people who never go outside, not one of his bad arguments for god.
I think he tried to combine the insult with look at the trees
@@richardsuplee8137 Ah. That would explain it.
8:50 "Written by men" - those research papers don't also claim to be infallible. And if further evidence should come along that invalidates their conclusions the authors will readily alter their views. This is how knowledge increases. This is why we have all the modern conveniences, clean water, a reliable food supply, an ability to predict the weather far superior than just 30 years ago, etc.
And the corrections will keep coming in. And our knowledge and related power will continue to grow.
14:19 No. First of all you don't _start out_ with a hypothesis. You start out with observations of natural phenomenon for which you don't understand the cause. A few steps later you form a hypothesis. Then you don't go out and search for evidence to prove your hypothesis. That is a straight line to confirmation bias. No, you consider all the ways your hypothesis could be _disproved._ And then you go on from there. No need to get into the details in this comment. But at the root of it all is observations of natural phenomena. This is why "the god of the gaps" so consistently fails. Every time we've succeeded in determining the cause of a natural phenomenon no god has been required. This has been the case for literally thousands of years.
15:10 We have archeological evidence, which tells us a whole lot about the past without resorting to written witness accounts. In fact, on the whole it is more reliable than those accounts. Things remarkable enough to be recorded by witnesses also often end up being exaggerated in witness accounts, for example the sizes of armies, the scale of monumental buildings, etc.
20:50 I was raised without religion, not as an "atheist", but simply in an environment where there was no particular importance given to any religions, a secular household. Throughout my life I've never seen any compelling evidence that leads me to belief in the existence of any gods or goddesses. That's all. It's as simple as that.
21:33 It's one thing to say, "I firmly believe God is real" and it's another to say, "God is real." Say the latter and you can expect some challenges, and that's the way it should be.
22:35 "Which I don't even want in the first place" - Fine. Then don't. If you don't want it then you don't need a supernatural being to keep you from doing it. Just do what you want and don't sleep around. - Peyton's thought processes are so confused. Life really isn't this complicated. But then, he is young. I'll admit I was a bit more confused at his age than I am now.
Everyone knows that corn is a gateway grain. Poor cartheist will be back on the wagon, moving on to harder grains, I guarantee it
Do you mean, shudder, Shreaded Wheat???
@@darwinskeeper421 Let's hope not! Withdrawals from that are a bitch!😟💩💩💩💩
SkepTick, "corn" is RUclips slang for a different 4-letter word that rhymes, but starts with "P".
Saying "corn" instead of the real word keeps them from getting demonetized, I guess.
SkepTick obviously knew that. He was playing around. Check the video description to see what I mean.
Btw, I was reading YT Community Guidelines a few days ago and it turns out they can indeed demonetize or even terminate your channel if you swear too much. This is the most fucking ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Is this YT Kids or something?
corn... Corn ?... wha-?... this cartheist was a children of the corn , maybe? seems a tad young for that.. grandshildren of the corn maybe.. maybe theres a film with that title.
I think it’s code for looking at unclothed people
Adult videos
man him listing off all the things that religion helped him get off of really sold me the "religion is the opium of the masses" angle.
He wasn't indoctrinated, cool, but there is such a thing as self-indoctrination, and I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he did.
It's extremely easy to convince yourself of weird beliefs and behaviors when you're feeling lost and empty and looking for answers to escape this horrible situation.
I'm reasonably sure when he says corn, he is referring to porn. People on social media call it corn sometimes to avoid demonetization or posts being taken down
"The atheists don't want to accept my proof!" I guess he doesn't understand that subjective experiences he can't even demonstrate happened aren't proof of God. At best, just proof he had some sort of experience.
"I can't use the Bible because it was written by men." I never used that silly argument. The Bible isn't proof or reliable evidence because it hasn't been shown to be true, itself. None of the miracle God stories have been supported as true. In fact, we know many of the stories, as written, never even happened. So the Bible lacks credibility.
Ya can't whine if your sucky evidence isn't convincing to other people.
4:50 Korn and Suicidal Tendencies are great bands! No doubt he was addicted! Probably still is.
2:11 i wonder why?! 🤭🤭🤭
As a former believer myself, I know that sometimes when someone has doubts about their faith, they try to compensate (atone?) via public outbursts against atheists. I don't know whether that's relevant in this particular case--but I am pretty sure that "corn" is a euphemism for "porn."
I just had to look up "Cartheist" lol
Didn't disappoint