Ohtani Speaks to the Media & Montgomery Signs with Arizona | 817
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
4:55 Shohei Ohtani Read His Statement to the Media
20:25 LHP Jordan Montgomery Signs 1-year Deal with the Arizona Diamondbacks
27:40 What Does This All Mean for Scott Boras?
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fellas what a start to this episode 😅
Lol
LOL, Jimmy and Trev in the intro...
Pretty sure I saw a nip slip
Japanese media has reported that Shohei has multiple bank accounts, a personal account, one his parents manage and his charity account which Ippei has access to.
I love Jake's excitement at 00:55 😂
LoL The Lawyer for the booking already came out and said he only dealt with Ippei and gave hin credit due to his relationship with Shohei....
I was waiting for after the Ohtani part of the show they were gonna say, "this section is brought to you by DraftKings!"
I switched from audio only to video @ 00:55
I switched to guys only at 00:55
Trev’s face whenever Jake says something weird is hysterical
when Jake said ”health prob... ippei..” at 19:23 😆
Bro I died when he said that
There's no way Shohei makes those definitive statements unless his lawyers were fully on board that there's no fault with Shohei. Way too much at stake, so him making those statements is pretty telling. IMO, he was fooled and duped by Ippei but I also see how that can happen to someone with that much money.
I don't know if I have the timeline accurate in my head, but I'm thinking there's no way Ippei OR Shohei give any statements without either their lawyers or the Dodgers PR having a full-blown meeting telling them, "okay guys this is what you say". The thing is, (where the timeline thing is important) there seems to be some walking back of statements. But yeah, there's no way someone's lawyers or PR doesn't immediately swoop in and give them a script.
Everyone is a winner today. On Ohtani. I agree, excellent break down.
It's wild how differently people interpret the Ohtani situation when they're an NL West rival, or the Astros. Nice to see cooler heads prevailing across the league and commentary now
I'm a DBacks fan, and I have been hoping that things would come to light and he would be innocent. Yeah I wanna beat the Dodgers but I don't wanna do it like that, or miss our on what is greatness even if we have to face it.
My only worry was thay the MLB would botch this and it would leave a tainted mark or feeling on his career as a result.
@@11FinFin We fans want our teams to win, but we also want them to compete honorably, fair and square. That's how it should be, and sometimes people in pro sports (heck, high school and college) lose sight of that.
18:20 "Casino School" 😂😂😂
I think Trevor failed to mention something else regarding Ohtani's situation. He is absolutely right that in order to get to and succeed in MLB many, MANY players entrust people to handle literally almost everything else in their lives. This leaves them vulnerable to be taken advantage of by unscrupulous people. However, those players all are only trying to succeed at the highest level as a position player OR a pitcher. Ohtani is doing both, therefore he is even more reliant on someone to handle everything else.
Well to counterpoint that most players have a legitimate fear they won’t be able to make a career out of baseball.
Ohtani has known he’d at least be a success rich big leaguer from day 1. It’s always just been a matter of how good can he be.
Not having anyone ever check your accounts is beyond moronic. It’s not realistic
@@bigpictureguys8415 you can call Shohei dumb for not looking at his finances a little more carefully but I don't think it's unrealistic.
@@bigpictureguys8415 Superstar players have been scammed by their advisors before. What happens when a player of any stature hires a person they trust to check their accounts, then that person turns around and scams them? Add into it that you don't understand the language your accounts are in. Put yourself in his shoes but reversed. You are a superstar player making tons of money in Japan. In order to live in Japan, you will need Japanese credit cards and bank accounts. Those statements are all in Japanese. Who is going to be telling you what the documents say? Your translator. You have to trust your translator isn't screwing you over.
@@whyoowhy I don't think he had access to all of Shohei's accounts. Most likely Shohei has his primary accounts in Japan where he keeps most of his money. He then most likely has some American accounts for his day to day life in season here.
@@brianeleighton I agree. Genuine question: how much money do you think Shohei has in his American account? Like 10 million? Damn I'll never be that rich
Jake questioning Shohei not knowing at all because they were close. In fact, it's exactly such closeness/trust that allows this type of fraud to occur.
exactly and it happens a lot to sports figures and know that by now.
What Jake means is that they were so close they would know so much about each other. you would know if your best friend likes to bet.
Hopefully ohtani comes out of this clean though
@@JosueMartinez-cz4ct yeah, I understand what Jake means. And what I'm saying is that closeness is exactly what is required to commit fraud. If they weren't close, Ippei would not have been able to do what he did
Now that's how you start an episode!!!! Black shirt ep, let's goooooo!!!!
All time first 2 minutes to a talkin baseball episode, very wel executed
GoT references and BBD giggles giving me life
I so appreciate Jimmy's well informed take. Notice how he actually "read stuff" online and followed up about the nuances of using an interpreter and a handler, and thought about it. Meanwhile you have guys like Rich Eisen and Ken Rosenthal raising their eyebrows and snarkily going "I don't know you guys, how does this happen without Ohtani knowing???" Uhh, why don't you do some actual research before just talking.
Talking heads like Eisen have a vested interest in stirring up drama and controversy. That's how they attract viewership and clicks, i.e., ad revenue. We really should stick to the evidence (such as it is) that the Times and AP have reported thus far.
I listened to Rich Eisen's show, and it went much further into the facts of the case. Since ESPN was aware of these five $500,000 wire transfers from Ohtani's account in January - the wires took place in September and October of 2023 - it does raise questions about how Ohtani could be completely unaware of any of this until last week.
Tisha Thompson also reports that it's AT LEAST $4.5 million, and it's possibly more.
what a good episode to start with
I have noticed something in the way the new Ohtani interpreter works. He is taking notes while Ohtani is speaking. Simple enough, but to my recollection I have never seen Mizuhara taking notes. I began to doubt if the interpreting work he had been doing was even appropriate.
I just remembered a story kinda like what happened to Shohei, but not really. Definitely like what happened to Mike Tyson and Don King.
Manny Pacquiao prior to signing with both Golden Boy and Top Rank was signed to a man named Murad Muhammad. This dude, with help from Manny’s own manager was stealing money from him. Dude died before the case was settled so I don’t know what happened afterward.
Edit: What I’m trying to get to is, cases like these happens all the time in the sporting world, especially with guys who don’t speak English as a primary language. They get taken advantage of. Especially now with new revelations that Ippei has a lot of inconsistencies to his story with regards to his work history, where he graduated and such.
Great episode. ❤❤❤
There's no way this episode isn't going to be a banger with how it's starting.
What happened to the video towards the end? Why’d it freeze up like that?
JH Lee getting the best deal from Boris is crazy lol
Wake up America!! Shohei has been a victim!! As a Japanese he was too naive about his money!! He needs to grow up
10 million was the start up for US events and gifts account 60 thousand Baseball gloves, Porch to Mrs Kelly and other expenses was primary use... Shohei's main account is with his parents in Japan...
Damn that was a hot start 🥵
loved the jimmyfans preview, definitely gonna sub
Ippei graduated from Bishop Sycamore!
Simple questions: Would you trust your best friend to be alone at your place? Would you trust your best friend not to steal from you? If yes, then it's not too hard to believe Ohtani would never suspect his own best friend of stealing from him. If your answer is 'no', then you don't have a best friend.
Black T-Shirts should be a tradition on Baseball Eve.
The guy in the middle is right. The others two just don’t like Shohei at all that’s all
where can I watch the good translator?
“I’ll click your link” 😂😂😂
Trev with the pencil bat 😂😂😂
Hell of a catch by Jake, bringin' it back.
you guys really hit the ground running in this one
if you pay attention, Otani didn’t find out until after the game and he had to go to another interpreter to clarify what Ippie said. furthermore, the Dodgers have found out that Shohei is more accessible now that his interpreter is gone so obviously, the interpreter was keeping Shohei in the dark about everything.
You guys were spot on except the part about the bookie. The bookie knew it was the interpreter who was gambling and gave that line of credit to the interpreter. They are on record with the feds stating they never dealt with Ohtani or had Ohtani as a client. They knew money was coming from Ohtani based off the checks. So it’s 2 outcomes Ohtani knew and provided funds for whatever reason or the interpreter was saying my buddy can cover my losses and that’s how he got that credit. It’s all easily provable with forensic accounting.
Agree with jimmy on his ohtani takes . Checks out . Seems like first story to come out is the one that stuck and now everyone is calling it a cover up.
From Ohtani himself to all of you sportscasters. A rat ship, a vessel full of sea-going snitches (by AlPacino "I'll show you out of order").
Well think about it. Ohtani being an innocent victim sounds great to his fans, but that ends the story and they won't make more money off of it. Put the doubt and uncertainty out there, and the drama builds itself, which means more clicks, which means more money.
LOL I kept refreshing and rewinding because I thought the screen freeze was on my end =|
The obligatory ads are the best part of the show. Eeepaaay. 😂
The company lives off of dick pills and gambling ads.
21:57 Trev nailed it comparing Erod to Monty’s contract. Wow.
Bruuuuuuutal.
"Oh my goodness"
Lol alright. The Show is down still so here we are!
I could see Boras make a pivot on extensions...all these weird one-year deals could get extended in season, particularly Montgomery. If he makes his starts and stays off the IL, I could see the snakes offer a multi-year extension and if he's happy, I could see Boras executing it.
Who is that always dying in the background. I love it
It's the producer of the show. He's in the bottom right corner
need one of those hats bad
C'mon! Ohtani is not going to use his OWN account, with his OWN name on it, to pay off an illegal bookie. He knows everyone watches him, wants to know what he does, etc. His interpreter was more than just his interperter. He had an seperate account, with Ohtani's name and permission to use, for conducting personal purchase, payment of bills, etc. Money went into this account every month, for the course of several years, and Ippei made the debt transactions 9 times, without Ohtani's knowledge. Ohtani's biggest crime was trusting this guy and now he is paying for it with this "guilty until proven innocent" bannana.
No. It was Ohtani's account only. Tard
17:30 Let's not forget that Ippei also has the presumption of innocence until proven guilty (or free from liability unless proven otherwise in civil court). Homeboy needs to shut up, hire an attorney, do what the attorney says, and cooperate with the Feds. Odds are he's not going to make a statement again unless he's in court talking to a judge.
It doesn't look very good for him, but that doesn't mean he goes straight to jail. If he can provide the Feds with valuable evidence (something other than testimony because his credibility is done-zo) in their case against Bowyer, he could get a plea deal and then disappear from the face of the earth. Probably won't work with the IRS.
The illegal gambling is one thing, stealing from your employer is another. Ohtani and his family might be spiteful as Ippei basically ruined his image which is a very big deal in Japanese culture. I mean seriously, people have committed suicide because they brought shame to their family.
Is the Boone segment coming back? That's what I want to know.
favorite player under 5’10, the Mookie Betts
Dbacks fans love you Jake!
Ohtani = baseball brilliant
Being an independent adult = man child to a Will Ferral degree
The way the media infantilizes a man who will turn 30-years-old in three months is pretty sad and funny.
18:05 somebody made a person laugh in the studio
BBD and his trademark chuckle 😂
Not just the shirts the hats boys
Need a short king baseball player tier list
If you’re so awesome at something that people call you a unicorn, but inexperienced in things that is normal for everyday people. Ohtani paid Ippei generous amount of money for being more than an interpreter, ohtani relied heavily on Ippei so ohtani can focus on baseball. Ohtani must be devastated when he found out about Ippei. I’m sure ohtani senses negative feedback from the public and I hope ohtani is strong enough to ignore people calling him a liar or put him into jail or Ippei is the fall guy or it’s ohtani’s fault nonsense.
Lol Whenever you have Shannon Sharpe&Ocho Cinco Speaking on the Shohei Ohtani Story then its Deep!!!
Great start jimmy that was great 😂
His parents are financial advisor. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Yo Pause ⏸ Son 😂😂😂
Start of this episode was akin to a lead off hitter hitting a grand slam
Jake doing a Littlefinger impression was not on my Opening Day episode bingo card
SPICY!!!
It is important for the game that if there is any wrongdoing found in the investigation that the punishment is severe. Even if we love and trust the guy, theres a line that needs to be held.
Where is his financial advisor you say, even if there’s one FA likely speaks to Ippei. Ippei can loosely translate or even lies to Ohtani. And Ohtani has no way of verifying Ippei. But now he can.
Scary, crazy. I feel so bad for Ohtani being haters entertainment topic. Remember how he got here, his sacrifice, devotion, how focused he is to become the best in MLB.
I wonder how if any free agents are going to not have boras represent him next year. He is representing so many more clients next year so it will be very interesting what happens
I think there’s gotta be a shirtless episode at some point BBD TOO
Is this the beginning of the end for Boras as the top mlb agent?
and 4 black shirts rode into town
16:42 that’s what Rob manfred is saying right now
Love Monty for the Sneks, hope they topple the Dodgers this season
All the boys looking good in black ;)
The casino dealer school was suggested by his own father so Ippei went but dropped out later.
idk what the rest of the episode is about, all I remember is the first minute
Okay jimmy😋
My boy is innocent! All you Dodger haters blamed the victim.
I had no idea pitching ninja was a man of the law lol
Talking Baseball OF gonna do NUMBERS
So next offseason more of the same ? Since he has so many players ?
Waiting until March? :(
I am past the point of thinking we'll ever know the full truth on Ohtani, and I think that's exactly where they want us.
Dude Scott Boras FUCKED Monty who was the Ace for the World Series champs. Wow so nuts. Snell was robbed too. But Monty this is sooo sad for the year he had with the Rangers. He was their ace, I got to see him Live multiple times after the trade and in the playoffs. Wow
Pick Mookie for the player under 5”10😁
I have no problem believing Shohei is an innocent victim. It’s mind-boggling to me, however, that ESPN reporters found out that his name was on wire transfers to an illegal bookie before he did. Federal investigators knew about it /at least/ three months ago, and he was never asked about it?
According to Sho, Ippei would tell people that he was relaying information to him when he wasn’t. I expect that we will find out Ippei’s lies go way deeper than anyone could have imagined.
@@legendsofthegame394 Yeah, that could be. And I'm no expert on what the federal attorney's standard operating procedure is. It just seems like they, upon seeing "Otani" come up attached to the transfers, should have asked him some questions. Shohei's lawyers should have been informed. The Dodgers should have known. But it seems they were caught off guard too. And of course -- Shohei should have known. It seems batshit crazy that Ippei was able to control access to Shohei to that extent, but that appears to be the story they're going with.
@@nerdbot37 A good federal prosecutor keeps things tightly under wraps until the grand jury, and even then the good ones won't say a thing in public until the indictment is handed down. They do this to protect the independence of the Department of Justice from any influence other than the law and the evidence, and to prevent tipping off any defendants of incoming federal charges or witnesses that could be intimidated. AG Merrick Garland got a lot of flack from day one, but he's been running an incredibly tight and effective ship from what I've seen. (I'm not a lawyer, but I have learned from a bunch of really good ones). If they thought it was necessary to talk to Shohei to build their case, they would have done so, so it seems that they haven't seen the need to interview him so far. Plus Shohei's legal team is cooperating with the FBI.
There have been a lot of examples (e.g. Elvis Presley) where access to a celebrity is strictly controlled through one guy, usually a lawyer, a manager, or otherwise a "fixer". If the allegation that Ippei did likewise and took advantage of his control proves to be true, he's hardly the first to do this, nor will he be the last. I don't think it's as crazy as it sounds, if you want to focus on your talents and skills and not deal with sponsorship deals or interview requests every hour, you put a trusted person (or better yet a well-managed team) there to handle all that.
If Shohei's attorneys' allegations are true, Ippei gained the full and unwavering trust of arguably the greatest baseball player of our generation, someone that every MLB team would move heaven and earth to satisfy. If Shohei said "Ippei's my man, he's cool, I trust him," that apparently was good enough for the league, and if the allegations are true, Ippei betrayed that trust in some of the worst ways possible. I would imagine that MLB and other sports leagues will learn from this and implement policies to make sure "fixers" are worthy of this level of trust.
@@nerdbot37 If the feds are doing it right, they don't say anything public until the grand jury, and even then some federal prosecutors won't say anything in public until the indictment or plea deal. This way they can legitimately say that they performed the investigation independent of any outside influence, and they can avoid tipping off defendants who could do Bad Stuff like intimidate witnesses.
@@nerdbot37Ippei is quite literally Ohtani speaking English. The control is there because 1. Ippei seems to have manipulated everyone, from Shohei to the media, to the fans... That he is a harmless, innocent soul.
2. Ohtani has never handled his own money since he became a pro. Ohtani trusted Ippei like he trusted his mother when he was in Japan
I’m not throwing the c-word out there 🤨 29:40
Dudes, apparently Ippei’s Wife didn’t know about any of this. He said that to the reporter from ESPN during his 90 min interview which Ohtani didn’t know about. And this is coming from Japanese media but supposedly Ippei had something like check writing privileges or limited POA on an account Ohtani had set aside for charity related businesses.
Depending on the outlet, I haven't found Japanese media other than NHK to be reliable, they can be very prone to reporting opinion and speculation in the same authoritative tone as facts. As far as I can tell their sources are the same as the sources for Western media, and no one's reporting about check-writing privileges (though to be fair, if Ippei did do what Shohei's attorneys allege, it would be very difficult for him to pull it off without that power). I don't think we'll see much more in the way of evidence unless a courtroom gets involved or unless MLB issues their findings.
4.5 to the 99% of us is a lot .
4.5 mil to ohtani ain’t 💩
Come on man, you were throwing Ohtani under the bus before he even had a chance to speak!
Ippei's got some George Santos feel about him
Ippei is either incredibly careless or incorrigibly dishonest. The latter is actually quite rare, of all the legislators in this country, only Santos is a known liar of that magnitude. I'm thinking someone told him re: his bio, "Just put whatever, no one's gonna read it." If this scandal hadn't happened, he would have been called out on it eventually, and it would have been edited into something more honest and humble. Now it's another brick in the wall that says, "Ippei is a liar".
Hey under 5’10, call yourself something other than under 5’10. You’re welcome, thanks.
Boras has taken some losses before but never multiple big L’s in one offseason. Woof
Bro what is going on, Monty has been one of the top 10 starters in the whole league for the last 3 seasons and the best he could get was 50 million? That is insane.
Jake baby you look swwwwoooleeee
Is the laugging in the background a laugh track? I use to always think it was BBD but now im noticing its not him and always seems to be the same number of chuckles.
I honestly don’t care/put zero stock into what either side has to say until the Fed’s investigation is concluded.
40:10 well what do you want? You want teams to pay guys for what they HAVE done in the past? Or what they believe they WILL do during that contract length? Jung Hoo Lee has been getting scouted by the Giants for a long time.
Should the Phillies have pushed to sign Monty?
After all these 35/56 years deals, not even an hello to a 1 year deal?
I don't know.
Jose ramirez is under 5'10" and he said Kwan 😂😂😂
Not exactly sure why you guys think Monty worth more than 25 a year
You can’t question how Lee got more guarantee than Chapman without acknowledging their ages. Chapman is 31 next month and Lee is 25