Lionel's words to Lana about being on the edge of a dangerous precipice and finding herself someplace very dark were not a threat, but a warning. He wasn't threatening her with something that early seasons Lionel would do to her, but rather a figurative warning about her own soul.
She crossed that bridge when she married Lex, she’s doing the same thing to Lionel that Lex has done to her and other a million times over. I think she became jaded and took ln those luthor traits in order to survive a cut throat “family”
I loved this scene. Lionel telling Lana to let go of her anger towards Lex, before she became too dark. And it worked. She turned out to be a hero in the end. Love Lana.
Which is weird because it was his fault she ended up marrying Lex and even needing to fake her death in the first place. Oh and let's not forget he threatened her that he would kill Clark.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective , if Linel knew that SuperGirl was on Earth then he would have formed a plan for Zor-El to being the vessel of the last Phantom instead of Lex, and he would have formed a plan where the clone Jor-El and the Lara from the Blue Crystal got their powers back by Clark pouring his blood into them, and then he would have formed a plan where Zor-El being the true vessel of the Bizzaro Superman sending that Kyrptonian to the Phantom Zone by having the help of Clone of Jor-El, Lara from the Blue Kyrptonite, and SuperGirl instead of relying solely on a Blue Kyrptonite Bomb instead, and they could have formed a New Fortress of Solitude with that piece of the Blue Kyrptonite instead of having Tess Mercer’s Piece of Blue Kyrptonite.
After the first few seasons, I couldn't stand Lana. When Clark got back with her towards the end of the show and everyone said she matured, she still irritated me.
@Hector Barbossa Me too. Lana's fake smile and the whole "I'm innocent" act gets on my nerves. Lionel knew she was full of shit straight away because he's told so many lies and kept so many secrets in his life he knows when people are lying.
Lionel’s facial expression showing that he realized he’d clearly underestimated Lana earlier as just another weak-willed woman. There’s a mix of awe in it, he’s realizing how much of a Luther she really is deep down and he probably regretted that she wasn’t still a part of the family
Cassandra765 Yes she was. She was always manipulating Clark as well as other people to do what she wanted and throwing temper tantrums when she didn't get her way.
I didn't see her as manipulative in the earlier seasons. A bit spoiled and too doted on, yes, but I never saw her actively being shady like she is here.
+Cassandra765 you're right she does not manipulate people and remember this just because she looks like she was married to lex doesn't mean she was really married to lex which realistically means she was never to married lex and also remember this an arranged marriage that becomes a forced marriage is illegal so when Lionel threatened her at that moment she was forced to pretend to be somebody that she never wanted to be which means you were pretending to be honest on the outside when in fact you weren't being honest
i like seeing lionel back someone in the corner and call them on there crap.i think when lionel say's stuff about letting it go he means her obsession for revenge on lex.i did not like lana during that season manipulating her own boyfriend just so he just would not find out how dark she was becoming but he found out anyway during episodes like wrath and possibly the bizzaro arc.
Get lost! Ironic how you see two dark ppl better than Lana, to excuse him for what she did, everybody used her as a vessel for their lies, yet in someway she shone out and bright
Actually, Lana didn’t preferred her revenge for Lex over her love for Clark (watch again “Requiem” when Clark in the heat of passion was gonna kill his ex-friend but Lana immediately stopped him because she knew he would never forgive himself for killing someone). At the end of season 6 Lana knew definitely about Lex’s true nature. Also Lionel threatened her to kill Clark if she didn’t marry his son *(she didn’t know that actually Lionel wanted to protect Clark).* So Lana was afraid that after her leaving Lex, both Luthors could hurt Clark. That’s why she faked her death for her ex-husband being arrested and kidnapped Lionel. Later when she returned to Smallville she spied on Lex to stop his crimes (a good example in “Bulletproof” when she proved Tess that Lex used her (Tess) for his own goals). About her words in “Wrath” blaming Clark for not being able to put blood on his hands, she said that on emotions. Do you remember Clark’s own words in “Crimson” about his first meet with Lex? He said that he would never save him if he had knew who would turn him. My theory is proved in “Requiem” (see my comment above ☝️). Regarding this scene, Lionel who suddenly became good says Lana that she's "not trying to protect Clark. This is about retribution". She is just listening, silent and not responding as if admitting his words. He said this only to guide her the true path. I compare this scene with the one at the end of "Scion" when evil Lionel asked Tess why she did't kill him. She answered that was not who she was. Then bad version of her father said the following: "You may want to *change yourself to impress Clark Kent,* but we both know... Deep down... You'll *always be a Luthor.* Like Lana, Tess is just listening, silent and not responding as if admitting his words. Lionel-2 said that to guide her wrong path. So we can conclude Lana really wanted to protect Clark, not revenge The Luthors.
@@grimlord3181 in ‘Kara’ Lana easily could have killed Lex and get away with it because ‘a dead woman can't be convicted of murder’. But when Lex allowed her to shoot, her face was screaming ‘I’m not killer. I can’t kill even such a villain like you’. Even Lex knew it, that’s why he wasn’t afraid of being shot. Then in ‘Wrath’ super Lana could have killed Lex again and get away with it (she had powers). This time Lex got scared as she had superpowers, of course he thought her head changed too. When Lex kissed Lana she could have easily electrocuted him but instead of it she just dropped the murder weapon and pushed the villain away. The conclusion is Lana never wanted to kill Lex, to scare him only. She had not one but TWO perfect chance to murder him and get away with it but didn’t do it. When Clark came (after Lana pushed Lex away in ‘Wrath’), she started accusing him for not being able to kill a villain. Actually Lana just wanted Clark to prove for himself he would never kill anyone. It shows the fact Lana being like Clark (that is, superwoman) didn’t murder Lex. And in ‘Nemesis’, Lana actually wasn’t gonna kill Lex, to scare him only (she knew all entries and exits from the subterranean).
Once she married Alex, she took on alot of his traits, probably for the sake of survival in his cut throat world, but it never seemed to go away. She’s doing exactly what Lex has done to her a million times over. She’s no better than Lex, here.
I like that she is apart of the Luthors family tree obviously i don't like what they did but i like that she was apart of that family tree and tess i kinda like dark lana but i also like her storyline in season 8 her finding herself apart from clarke and getting powers
I Didn't Like How She Lied With I'm Innocent Face After Lionel Confronted Her But Can You Really Blame Her Blame Her Lionel Threatened To Kill Clark If She. Didn't Marry Lex And Lex Made Her Think She Was Pregnant
Sorry Lionel you’re the last person to be lecturing on morality. You had your own parents murdered, meddled in Clark’s life, Johnathon, Martha, Chloe, had her safe house blown to bits, etc. It was wrong for Lana to do the things she did but she really loved Clark and tried so hard to keep her darkness at bay. She really did make an effort to make Clark see the good. When they finally did Brainiac attacks her. Revenge is a dangerous path but it was a path Lionel forced her on and he refuses to acknowledge that. He forced her to marry Lex so Lex would be occupied with Lana and wouldn’t have time to look into Clark.
Once he became the Vessel/Voice of Jor-El, he was always basically good, but he still had to keep up his appearances as well, especially around Lex, though I don't think much of Jor-El and him being "good" also.
Lana > Lionel’s sudden goodness was so ridiculous while he threatened to kill Clark if she didn’t marry psycho Lex who injected her with false hormones. The whole lexana was gross in general. Lana didn’t do her best thinking here but I can’t blame her actions. Clark didn’t either.
I agree,Lionel is one of the most horrible,hatebale villians we've ever seen on t.v. Characters like him aren't meant to have retribution stories. He wasn't some likeable antihero where the lines were blurred. He was a pure piece of garbage as a human being. To make matters worst,he got retribution and Lex was made into a piece of trash.
Lionel's words to Lana about being on the edge of a dangerous precipice and finding herself someplace very dark were not a threat, but a warning. He wasn't threatening her with something that early seasons Lionel would do to her, but rather a figurative warning about her own soul.
She crossed that bridge when she married Lex, she’s doing the same thing to Lionel that Lex has done to her and other a million times over. I think she became jaded and took ln those luthor traits in order to survive a cut throat “family”
"Oh please. That line stopped working the day you faked your own death." I LOL'd haha
I loved this scene. Lionel telling Lana to let go of her anger towards Lex, before she became too dark. And it worked. She turned out to be a hero in the end. Love Lana.
Lionel was the first one to see thru her. He knows the darkness better than anyone
Which is weird because it was his fault she ended up marrying Lex and even needing to fake her death in the first place. Oh and let's not forget he threatened her that he would kill Clark.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective , if Linel knew that SuperGirl was on Earth then he would have formed a plan for Zor-El to being the vessel of the last Phantom instead of Lex, and he would have formed a plan where the clone Jor-El and the Lara from the Blue Crystal got their powers back by Clark pouring his blood into them, and then he would have formed a plan where Zor-El being the true vessel of the Bizzaro Superman sending that Kyrptonian to the Phantom Zone by having the help of Clone of Jor-El, Lara from the Blue Kyrptonite, and SuperGirl instead of relying solely on a Blue Kyrptonite Bomb instead, and they could have formed a New Fortress of Solitude with that piece of the Blue Kyrptonite instead of having Tess Mercer’s Piece of Blue Kyrptonite.
Si perché lui infatti è un santo
Perfectly executed scene between Lana and Lionel which seem to be two of the most dynamic characters in SV.
KK was so beautiful in this scene.. 😍😍
"Haha indeed I was. You." lol omg I LOVE Lionel! He is amazing.
Lana was so annoying in this scene.
After the first few seasons, I couldn't stand Lana. When Clark got back with her towards the end of the show and everyone said she matured, she still irritated me.
She was annoying but worse was how everyone worshiped her.
@@DCfan6767 Yes I totally agree!
@@DCfan6767 i mever saw ppl worship her wheres your proof? She not perfect but shes got stengths too. I don't agree with the revenge plot though
@@CatieCass proof?
Lionel Luthor is such a badass.
@Hector Barbossa Me too. Lana's fake smile and the whole "I'm innocent" act gets on my nerves. Lionel knew she was full of shit straight away because he's told so many lies and kept so many secrets in his life he knows when people are lying.
Lionel’s facial expression showing that he realized he’d clearly underestimated Lana earlier as just another weak-willed woman. There’s a mix of awe in it, he’s realizing how much of a Luther she really is deep down and he probably regretted that she wasn’t still a part of the family
Of course, Lionel could see through Lana. She kind of is what the Luthors made her to be.
Cassandra765 No. She was like that long before she ever got involved with the Luthors.
I disagree. She was not this dark and vengeful. Nor was she so manipulative before she got into bed with the Luthors.
Cassandra765 Yes she was. She was always manipulating Clark as well as other people to do what she wanted and throwing temper tantrums when she didn't get her way.
I didn't see her as manipulative in the earlier seasons. A bit spoiled and too doted on, yes, but I never saw her actively being shady like she is here.
+Cassandra765 you're right she does not manipulate people and remember this just because she looks like she was married to lex doesn't mean she was really married to lex which realistically means she was never to married lex and also remember this an arranged marriage that becomes a forced marriage is illegal so when Lionel threatened her at that moment she was forced to pretend to be somebody that she never wanted to be which means you were pretending to be honest on the outside when in fact you weren't being honest
Lionel and lex were so well written for
i like seeing lionel back someone in the corner and call them on there crap.i think when lionel say's stuff about letting it go he means her obsession for revenge on lex.i did not like lana during that season manipulating her own boyfriend just so he just would not find out how dark she was becoming but he found out anyway during episodes like wrath and possibly the bizzaro arc.
Exactly. I loved it when Clark told her, "I don't think it's ME you can't face."
Get lost! Ironic how you see two dark ppl better than Lana, to excuse him for what she did, everybody used her as a vessel for their lies, yet in someway she shone out and bright
Lionel, my favorite villain forever haha
Actually, Lana didn’t preferred her revenge for Lex over her love for Clark (watch again “Requiem” when Clark in the heat of passion was gonna kill his ex-friend but Lana immediately stopped him because she knew he would never forgive himself for killing someone). At the end of season 6 Lana knew definitely about Lex’s true nature. Also Lionel threatened her to kill Clark if she didn’t marry his son *(she didn’t know that actually Lionel wanted to protect Clark).* So Lana was afraid that after her leaving Lex, both Luthors could hurt Clark. That’s why she faked her death for her ex-husband being arrested and kidnapped Lionel.
Later when she returned to Smallville she spied on Lex to stop his crimes (a good example in “Bulletproof” when she proved Tess that Lex used her (Tess) for his own goals). About her words in “Wrath” blaming Clark for not being able to put blood on his hands, she said that on emotions. Do you remember Clark’s own words in “Crimson” about his first meet with Lex? He said that he would never save him if he had knew who would turn him. My theory is proved in “Requiem” (see my comment above ☝️).
Regarding this scene, Lionel who suddenly became good says Lana that she's "not trying to protect Clark. This is about retribution". She is just listening, silent and not responding as if admitting his words. He said this only to guide her the true path. I compare this scene with the one at the end of "Scion" when evil Lionel asked Tess why she did't kill him. She answered that was not who she was. Then bad version of her father said the following: "You may want to *change yourself to impress Clark Kent,* but we both know... Deep down... You'll *always be a Luthor.* Like Lana, Tess is just listening, silent and not responding as if admitting his words. Lionel-2 said that to guide her wrong path.
So we can conclude Lana really wanted to protect Clark, not revenge The Luthors.
Requiem was in the season after this one. That's not a good example.
@@grimlord3181 in ‘Kara’ Lana easily could have killed Lex and get away with it because ‘a dead woman can't be convicted of murder’. But when Lex allowed her to shoot, her face was screaming ‘I’m not killer. I can’t kill even such a villain like you’. Even Lex knew it, that’s why he wasn’t afraid of being shot. Then in ‘Wrath’ super Lana could have killed Lex again and get away with it (she had powers). This time Lex got scared as she had superpowers, of course he thought her head changed too. When Lex kissed Lana she could have easily electrocuted him but instead of it she just dropped the murder weapon and pushed the villain away.
The conclusion is Lana never wanted to kill Lex, to scare him only. She had not one but TWO perfect chance to murder him and get away with it but didn’t do it. When Clark came (after Lana pushed Lex away in ‘Wrath’), she started accusing him for not being able to kill a villain. Actually Lana just wanted Clark to prove for himself he would never kill anyone. It shows the fact Lana being like Clark (that is, superwoman) didn’t murder Lex. And in ‘Nemesis’, Lana actually wasn’t gonna kill Lex, to scare him only (she knew all entries and exits from the subterranean).
Anger leads to the dark side of the.... oh wait wrong franchise. LOL! But you get my meaning.
Some serious balls on Lionel to get all hoity-toity about it
Once she married Alex, she took on alot of his traits, probably for the sake of survival in his cut throat world, but it never seemed to go away. She’s doing exactly what Lex has done to her a million times over. She’s no better than Lex, here.
Best scene
I like that she is apart of the Luthors family tree obviously i don't like what they did but i like that she was apart of that family tree and tess i kinda like dark lana but i also like her storyline in season 8 her finding herself apart from clarke and getting powers
I Didn't Like How She Lied With I'm Innocent Face After Lionel Confronted Her But Can You Really Blame Her Blame Her Lionel Threatened To Kill Clark If She. Didn't Marry Lex And Lex Made Her Think She Was Pregnant
I loved her fake innocence, it was pretty cheeky lol (if I assume she knew Lionel wouldn't be fooled but just wanted to annoy him)
Lana been through a lot because of the Luthors. Lionel had a hand in making her that way by forcing her to marry Lex.
But Lionel Was Wrong About Lana And Tess They Decided To Give Up Their Anger On Lionel And Lex And Changed For The Better
which episode is this?
Sorry Lionel you’re the last person to be lecturing on morality. You had your own parents murdered, meddled in Clark’s life, Johnathon, Martha, Chloe, had her safe house blown to bits, etc.
It was wrong for Lana to do the things she did but she really loved Clark and tried so hard to keep her darkness at bay. She really did make an effort to make Clark see the good. When they finally did Brainiac attacks her. Revenge is a dangerous path but it was a path Lionel forced her on and he refuses to acknowledge that. He forced her to marry Lex so Lex would be occupied with Lana and wouldn’t have time to look into Clark.
The 🐐🐐
Creep Lionel forcefully kissed Lana when she was underage in Clark's body
before CW got cringe
anybody know the name of melody?
I hate Lana. Lionel rules!
HectorBarbossa I like Lana Lionel Luthor go to hell
+HectorBarbossa Lol I can't help it! I love Lionel too.
Was this when Lionel was trying to be a better man
Once he became the Vessel/Voice of Jor-El, he was always basically good, but he still had to keep up his appearances as well, especially around Lex, though I don't think much of Jor-El and him being "good" also.
Yeah he had turned good at this point. He’s what Lex was in season 1-4.
Lana >
Lionel’s sudden goodness was so ridiculous while he threatened to kill Clark if she didn’t marry psycho Lex who injected her with false hormones. The whole lexana was gross in general.
Lana didn’t do her best thinking here but I can’t blame her actions. Clark didn’t either.
I agree,Lionel is one of the most horrible,hatebale villians we've ever seen on t.v. Characters like him aren't meant to have retribution stories. He wasn't some likeable antihero where the lines were blurred. He was a pure piece of garbage as a human being. To make matters worst,he got retribution and Lex was made into a piece of trash.
Parole sante
Io avrei fatto peggio
@@gamblertoguru382 attento a dirlo perché alcuni danno ragione a Lionel 🤦♀️
I didn't like this Lana..
nobody did
Lana ha ragione
Lionel comforts Lana??? HUH? Did I miss something lol? Seems more like Lionel THREATENS Lana hahaha whats up with that idiotic title???
it does not say comforts
It says "confront".
which episode is this?