6:55 Looking on the website for the castle, there is no mention of it being closed for an event since 1st March. As a visitor wanting to see it and checking that it's open, then arriving and finding it's closed I would be extremely annoyed.
"❗ Site Closure Notice Raglan Castle will be closed for filming from Monday 4 - Friday 8 April 2022. Filming at Cadw sites brings in vital revenue helping us to safeguard our heritage for the future."
In Ireland we have a bunch of castles and ruins and it was very popular for movies to be made here , but every time they, drill holes , litter and totally fuck up the land without a single fuck given.
As someone who’s worked for the company ADF all I can say is we sign a document promising not to release any information on the filming or releasing any pictures of the said production. It’s to stop people knowing anything about it before it’s released. Hope this helps.
"Car Park Closed" on a sign has NO connection to an entire site being designated as Restricted Access or Private or Closed to the general public. It's a simple indication that VEHICLE parking access is full up or temporarily unavailable. Two people with at least a normal school education seemed to both fail to comprehend this shortcoming in their logic even after prompting to that effect.
Haha I would've taken it up, wind was bad though, plus I didn't have it, the controller wasn't working and still isn't, should have it back from repairs soon
Lovely castle this 1... and very cool building... this was also part of our trip when we went to the secret not so secret sas training base up the road...
6:00 Is the security guard trying to block your camera for photographing the castle. Or is just upset at not getting an extra place in the film so wants to appear in your film?
8:25 She's wrong. They're "not for it" if a member of the public hurts themselves whilst it's closed for the event. No company or organisation or owner has any liability for trespassers. As proven by BT in your video of their Cardiff office.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Only if they're derelict in their duty to keep anyone and everyone safe. A thief walking on a fragile roof and falling through tried to sue the owner - they failed because there were signs up saying "fragile roof". Might be different if there were no signs and no indication of a fragile roof. Same with holes in the ground. Mine shafts in the middle of nowhere will have fences around them to keep people out.
1:05 If the castle was closed to the public, then the guy should've stated that from the start. That he fixated on the filming aspect indicates that it wasn't really closed. He only used the excuse that it was closed when his attempt to stop TGA filming failed. If it was really close their would be a sign at the gate plus security at the gate to stop the public. And I didn't see either. As for not being allowed to film because the film crew don't want anything to leak out, that's not how it works. The film crew doesn't have any more rights than a member of the public. They only have an arrangement to ensure that their needs are accommodated by the castle.
@Thomas Powell Nope. They have an arrangement with the castle. If people can see their filming then it doesn't matter if they're wandering on to the castle grounds or doing it with a telephoto lens from outside the grounds, the film crew can't stop the filming. The only thing they can do is ask the person to leave, if they're on the castle grounds. If the film crew wanted privacy, then they need to do it on a closed set, not out in public.
A pity it’s so windy, or you could send a drone over to have a look. It might be a bit of a problem for the sound technicians, but that’s their problem as you would not be breaking the law.
hmmmmmm not a good one as its plain to see that the castle has been hired out and if the guard had asked you to leave that is what you would have had to do.
TGA may refer to: The IATA Airport Code for Tengah Air Base, Singapore Tandy Graphics Adapter for the Tandy 1000 computer system Tasman Global Access, a submarine cable linking Australia and New Zealand Tennessee Governor's Academy for Math and Science, United States Therapeutic Goods Administration, Australian regulatory body Thermogravimetric analysis, materials testing procedure Thioglycolic acid, organic compound Transient global amnesia, a medical condition Transposition of the great arteries, a congenital heart defect Truevision TGA or TARGA, graphics file format Tonga (IOC country code) TGA, one of three stop codons The Game Awards, annual awards ceremony for the video game industry Which one is it?
Were those two blokes security...? Really...?? Because you couldn't tell if they were...! Neither of them were displaying an SIA licence card, which means they are operating illegally...if indeed they are security. If they aren't security guards, what on earth are they doing taking on the role...? They could be in breach of the company's insurance policy either way...!!
Idf it says car park closed to vehicles then the car park is closed to vehicles and it is NOT closed to the public and he is a security guard and has no authority to give anyone orders so stop asking him and telling him he can go with you as he isn't an SIA accredited security guard as his identity card is NOT on show and the other idiot comes up trying to give orders and has no authority to do so. Now he is making fraudulent claims and claiming it is not open and signed as closed. Their policies apply to them and NOT members of the public and they need to learn this.
Its private property, leased to a film company for which the security will be working. So, the film crew are "occupiers" of the property and benefit from the same rights the landowners have. Of course he has 'authority'....
I once stumbled on to a crew filming for some medical series filmed in a street , they tried to block me , I was delivering goods , their security claimed they had the power to arrest me no they didn't
They can, it just takes money and effort. Applying for a temporary and local no fly zone for some or all altitudes is regularly done, for example for any high-altitude fireworks display or drone or flying show, for rocket launches, for events with unusually large crowds, due to all kinds of desasters, for any place the US president goes, and so on. Civilian aircraft are then banned from the area and will be directed around the area by air traffic control. For a movie production, you usually skip that, act swiftly and unannounced, and hope that no assholes with drones randomly come by. So you can get a no fly zone, and put technology in place to enforce it, but just a few snipers on the roofs to shoot down drones are really expensive. I happen to know that the going rate in Germany for an armed security guard with a handgun and the training to effectively use it and to be an effective bodyguard is 1800 Euros for an 8-hour work day, i do not know what the price is for snipers that can shoot down drones.
I think you may not have realized what workload you put on them. Famous actors or actors/extras in costumes not allowed in the area you are in, meaning trapped in the trailers or on set, no prop pieces can be moved, long debrief sessions analyzing what you might or might not have seen and the fallout that might cause, and at least one guy had to be fired for not stopping you at the front gate. Depending on the timing between you filming and releasing this, they might need to rush the scedule, put up a lot of intransparent fencing, ramp up security, move parts off set and into a studio, and so on. Spoilers can ruin productions like that badly. The major screwup you caused might hasten or delay release of the final movie, affect its quality, and cause huge financial losses. Here in Munich, we have parts of the city locked down for the Munich Security Conference for a weekend each year, and if you mess with that the costs can avalanche, and they might respond with changes that might affect geopolitics. For example, they search the sewers for bombs and dangerous devices, which involves wading/crawling through deep shit in protective gear, they seal all entrances and manhole covers when they are done. One troll running around breaking the seals might, depending on timing, force them to wade through human feces in small tunnels for days again, or might force them to declare some buildings unsafe leading to a lot of resceduling. So a little 10 minute stunt, while not illegal, might cause costs in the millions, and might cause the meeting of the head of state of some small nation with the general secretary of the UN or the foreign minister of the USA or something like that to get scrapped, delaying a proper response to something hurting a lot of people to be delayed. OK this is just a film production, so i guess you did not hurt people, just possibly some careers, and maybe you hurt the bottom line of the project a bit. Maybe they just ramp up security, or scramble to replace the entire on-site security, or just hire 3 more guards to guard the front gate 24/7, who knows.
That whole set up was wrong. I’ve worked in the film game for 30 years as a stand by chippy and set builder. The security should have stopped you at the gate. The amount of tools and equipment we have in our vans, which we often have to leave unattended is at risk. I’ve had tools stolen while on site and we don’t get reimbursed. The filming equipment is also rented at a hell of a price, so any delay is in the thousand of pounds. Also background noise is always a problem, so while you’re talking with everyone it might be picked up by the sound guy which is another big fuck up. So I have lost some respect for you this time you should have just walked away.
8:05 CADW staff aren't allowed to film, because that's their rules and policies and terms of employment. Not for anyone else.
6:55 Looking on the website for the castle, there is no mention of it being closed for an event since 1st March. As a visitor wanting to see it and checking that it's open, then arriving and finding it's closed I would be extremely annoyed.
Too right, tyrant I would call the one guy
"❗ Site Closure Notice
Raglan Castle will be closed for filming from Monday 4 - Friday 8 April 2022.
Filming at Cadw sites brings in vital revenue helping us to safeguard our heritage for the future."
Did they remember to close the airspace with the CAA. you should send a drone up :)
In Ireland we have a bunch of castles and ruins and it was very popular for movies to be made here , but every time they, drill holes , litter and totally fuck up the land without a single fuck given.
Not right is it
It's at that point it'd be great if you had a drone.
I do have a drone, controller isn’t working for some reason so I’ve sent it off for repairs
Exactly what I was thinking. That would stuff them up.
@@johnseabrook1703 Yeah lol, I do like to take it up, once I get it back from repairs, I will be taking it over Portbury Dock
Oh and the Portishead Police HQ
As someone who’s worked for the company ADF all I can say is we sign a document promising not to release any information on the filming or releasing any pictures of the said production. It’s to stop people knowing anything about it before it’s released. Hope this helps.
"Car Park Closed" on a sign has NO connection to an entire site being designated as Restricted Access or Private or Closed to the general public. It's a simple indication that VEHICLE parking access is full up or temporarily unavailable. Two people with at least a normal school education seemed to both fail to comprehend this shortcoming in their logic even after prompting to that effect.
Wish you just said the drone is going up in a bit lol 😆
Haha I would've taken it up, wind was bad though, plus I didn't have it, the controller wasn't working and still isn't, should have it back from repairs soon
“Look at that !” One guy with a little trolley strolls past 😂
After hearing the workers it makes me not want to watch what ever they are making
you should have put a drone up lol
Those three were the medieval comedy but didt realise it.
Lovely castle this 1... and very cool building... this was also part of our trip when we went to the secret not so secret sas training base up the road...
6:00 Is the security guard trying to block your camera for photographing the castle. Or is just upset at not getting an extra place in the film so wants to appear in your film?
Who knows, probably was just butthurt
8:25 She's wrong. They're "not for it" if a member of the public hurts themselves whilst it's closed for the event. No company or organisation or owner has any liability for trespassers. As proven by BT in your video of their Cardiff office.
If somebody got hurt, surely the land owner would be in trouble?
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Only if they're derelict in their duty to keep anyone and everyone safe.
A thief walking on a fragile roof and falling through tried to sue the owner - they failed because there were signs up saying "fragile roof". Might be different if there were no signs and no indication of a fragile roof. Same with holes in the ground. Mine shafts in the middle of nowhere will have fences around them to keep people out.
@The Gwent Auditor / TGA I only just realised Cadw is a government service, so how can they prevent the public from accessing their own land?
@@randgate Its still deemed "private".
Forget the "we pay for it we own it" hypothesis.......its bollox.
@@TheGwentAuditorTGA Only if they can be proven to have been negligent.
1:05 If the castle was closed to the public, then the guy should've stated that from the start. That he fixated on the filming aspect indicates that it wasn't really closed. He only used the excuse that it was closed when his attempt to stop TGA filming failed. If it was really close their would be a sign at the gate plus security at the gate to stop the public. And I didn't see either.
As for not being allowed to film because the film crew don't want anything to leak out, that's not how it works. The film crew doesn't have any more rights than a member of the public. They only have an arrangement to ensure that their needs are accommodated by the castle.
@Thomas Powell Nope. They have an arrangement with the castle. If people can see their filming then it doesn't matter if they're wandering on to the castle grounds or doing it with a telephoto lens from outside the grounds, the film crew can't stop the filming. The only thing they can do is ask the person to leave, if they're on the castle grounds. If the film crew wanted privacy, then they need to do it on a closed set, not out in public.
@Thomas Powell After TGA had entered the carpark because their signs are crap and badly placed.
@Thomas Powell And they can't stop a drone flying over and filming everything.
@Thomas Powell It's public land, he basically owns a share in it.
@@randgate it was closed
I would have stood there till HE walked away
You should have said it’s no problem I will get it with my drone ,that would have rattled them .
Thanks for the shot of the castle.👍🏾✌🏾
Brilliant just brilliant
Thank you
A pity it’s so windy, or you could send a drone over to have a look. It might be a bit of a problem for the sound technicians, but that’s their problem as you would not be breaking the law.
time bandits was filmed there as well as merlin,
Awesome, I've watched a bit of Time Bandits and Merlin
hmmmmmm not a good one as its plain to see that the castle has been hired out and if the guard had asked you to leave that is what you would have had to do.
Tetchy lot aren’t they.
Yep
Film crews usually are.
Its all a big secret.
Nice one brother…..TGA in full effect…that security Clown tried to exert some make believe…Tyrant !!!!! Respect as always :)
TGA may refer to:
The IATA Airport Code for Tengah Air Base, Singapore
Tandy Graphics Adapter for the Tandy 1000 computer system
Tasman Global Access, a submarine cable linking Australia and New Zealand
Tennessee Governor's Academy for Math and Science, United States
Therapeutic Goods Administration, Australian regulatory body
Thermogravimetric analysis, materials testing procedure
Thioglycolic acid, organic compound
Transient global amnesia, a medical condition
Transposition of the great arteries, a congenital heart defect
Truevision TGA or TARGA, graphics file format
Tonga (IOC country code)
TGA, one of three stop codons
The Game Awards, annual awards ceremony for the video game industry
Which one is it?
Looks awesome video
Were those two blokes security...? Really...?? Because you couldn't tell if they were...! Neither of them were displaying an SIA licence card, which means they are operating illegally...if indeed they are security. If they aren't security guards, what on earth are they doing taking on the role...? They could be in breach of the company's insurance policy either way...!!
8+mins🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️Patronising infant-school teacher,arghhh
People full of self importance again
get a drone up, that will piss them off
Idf it says car park closed to vehicles then the car park is closed to vehicles and it is NOT closed to the public and he is a security guard and has no authority to give anyone orders so stop asking him and telling him he can go with you as he isn't an SIA accredited security guard as his identity card is NOT on show and the other idiot comes up trying to give orders and has no authority to do so. Now he is making fraudulent claims and claiming it is not open and signed as closed. Their policies apply to them and NOT members of the public and they need to learn this.
Its private property, leased to a film company for which the security will be working.
So, the film crew are "occupiers" of the property and benefit from the same rights the landowners have.
Of course he has 'authority'....
Thar guard wanted to get hands on to show how hard he was but this time he could not.
Please tell me your time stamp is wrong and you didn't do an audit at 6am lol
Yeah it's wrong lol, I changed it as well, somehow it reset, not sure why
Should send a drone over, see how they react to that
Im the guy in the van at the start and end 😂😂😂
I once stumbled on to a crew filming for some medical series filmed in a street , they tried to block me , I was delivering goods , their security claimed they had the power to arrest me no they didn't
❤️✌️💚🇬🇧 Gwent Auditor
Good video amazing
Pity you didn't have a drone that would have upset them
Yes if you want to do something like this then use a drone. They do not controle the air space
They can, it just takes money and effort. Applying for a temporary and local no fly zone for some or all altitudes is regularly done, for example for any high-altitude fireworks display or drone or flying show, for rocket launches, for events with unusually large crowds, due to all kinds of desasters, for any place the US president goes, and so on. Civilian aircraft are then banned from the area and will be directed around the area by air traffic control. For a movie production, you usually skip that, act swiftly and unannounced, and hope that no assholes with drones randomly come by. So you can get a no fly zone, and put technology in place to enforce it, but just a few snipers on the roofs to shoot down drones are really expensive. I happen to know that the going rate in Germany for an armed security guard with a handgun and the training to effectively use it and to be an effective bodyguard is 1800 Euros for an 8-hour work day, i do not know what the price is for snipers that can shoot down drones.
That lady towards the end was really lovely and knows how to speak with people the others were muppets!
What a lovely lady staff member, you would have been lucky to see any actors. Oh well 🤷♂️
I think you may not have realized what workload you put on them. Famous actors or actors/extras in costumes not allowed in the area you are in, meaning trapped in the trailers or on set, no prop pieces can be moved, long debrief sessions analyzing what you might or might not have seen and the fallout that might cause, and at least one guy had to be fired for not stopping you at the front gate. Depending on the timing between you filming and releasing this, they might need to rush the scedule, put up a lot of intransparent fencing, ramp up security, move parts off set and into a studio, and so on. Spoilers can ruin productions like that badly. The major screwup you caused might hasten or delay release of the final movie, affect its quality, and cause huge financial losses.
Here in Munich, we have parts of the city locked down for the Munich Security Conference for a weekend each year, and if you mess with that the costs can avalanche, and they might respond with changes that might affect geopolitics. For example, they search the sewers for bombs and dangerous devices, which involves wading/crawling through deep shit in protective gear, they seal all entrances and manhole covers when they are done. One troll running around breaking the seals might, depending on timing, force them to wade through human feces in small tunnels for days again, or might force them to declare some buildings unsafe leading to a lot of resceduling. So a little 10 minute stunt, while not illegal, might cause costs in the millions, and might cause the meeting of the head of state of some small nation with the general secretary of the UN or the foreign minister of the USA or something like that to get scrapped, delaying a proper response to something hurting a lot of people to be delayed.
OK this is just a film production, so i guess you did not hurt people, just possibly some careers, and maybe you hurt the bottom line of the project a bit. Maybe they just ramp up security, or scramble to replace the entire on-site security, or just hire 3 more guards to guard the front gate 24/7, who knows.
Wow such shitty security for a shitty castle.my town has the best castle. Good job mucka ...
Its actually well worth a visit, have you actually gone around it?
Even these film event productions lot must have lesson's from the plods they don't know the law either.
Sounded lawful to me.
What bit did they get wrong?
Buy a hi viz then you can order people around.
She is the worse of human ink manipulation and soft voice
For stating the facts?
Oh behave....
get a drone
Drone 👍👍👍
You don't need to fellow him hd a grown up so pity of this bloke
Jobworths!!
Send a drone they cant stop u lol they dont own the air space lol 😆 😂 🤣 😅 they cant stop u lol 😆 😂 🤣 😜
So silly should be aloud to film
I will make sure not to watch that comedy series lol 🤣
That whole set up was wrong. I’ve worked in the film game for 30 years as a stand by chippy and set builder. The security should have stopped you at the gate. The amount of tools and equipment we have in our vans, which we often have to leave unattended is at risk. I’ve had tools stolen while on site and we don’t get reimbursed. The filming equipment is also rented at a hell of a price, so any delay is in the thousand of pounds. Also background noise is always a problem, so while you’re talking with everyone it might be picked up by the sound guy which is another big fuck up. So I have lost some respect for you this time you should have just walked away.
So they should have someone at the gate then.
That's it put the mask of a coward on as usual.