ANIMATION: Would showing a real video of a child being sexually abused shock the world into action?
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2024
- Would showing a real video of a child being sexually abused shock the world into action?
Would it actually take seeing one, for example, a grown man molesting a 5-year old girl, for the world to put everything on hold until this is stopped?
We know that millions of video recordings like this are being circulated everyday online, but because we don’t actually see them, does it make it easy to ignore?
I created this animation 3-years ago and I would write it differently now but I think the thoughts still stand.
Give it a watch and let me know what you think?
Side note - obviously, when I say about showing a video, I’m talking hypothetically, but in a real world situation, the child in the video would now be an adult and be authorising this.
Here's two other animations in this series,
1. Putting paedophiles in prison - • I can't get my abuser ...
2. A message to my abuser - • I can't get my abuser ...
Written by: Jeremy Indika @jeremyindika
Illustrated by: Iulia Matei @iulia.jpg
Edited by: Jonathon Cork @jcork_01
Sound Engineer: Lee Avant @leemas9
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My niece once blew up at me for suggesting she turn off the location on her young daughter's phone.
Now that daughter is an adult but, at that time, she was about ten years old and she was telling people on Facebook that she was enjoying being home alone.
I checked and got a map to their home, which is why I made that suggestion to my niece, her mother.
For some people, a video like that might raise guilt, especially if their child had been victimized.
Thankfully, my great-niece wasn't (as far as I know) but just making that suggestion angered her mother.
And, admittedly, I didn't check back to see if my niece turned off location information because I was afraid to find out. I was too uncomfortable.
Most common reply when I try to raise awareness about this is -no plz I can't hear this it makes me feel so bad.
People do not wanna know. Don't wan't to listen. Perhaps because then they feel they have to do something. It is easier to not know, not see, not feel and not take action. Not suffer when others are in pain.
Many don't know how to behave, what to say when confronted with this and the situation just gets awkward.
I do not have any clear memory of my own abuse because I was a toddler. It sometimes shows in other ways but I dont suffer from it so much (I think😊). But it is really heartbreaking knowing what goes on with others and be able to do so little to help because it is not ok to talk about it.
I am from Sweden so i am not sure I always express myself correctly in English but I think y'all get what i am trying to say🙂♥️
Your English is beautiful! You could have fooled me. I'm in the northern US and would have guessed you're from the south. (The '"y'all" pinpointed the south but I would have thought US or UK, regardless.)
Also, I can't be sure since I'm not you, but I think what you wanted to say was clear.
P.S. I love your accent! Although I cannot hear it, a swedish accent is one of the most beautiful in the world. I don't know if this will be clear to you but, to me, it almost sounds like music because of the rise and fall in pitch.
Raising awareness might make some people feel uncomfortable, but what's more important? Their comfort or children's well-being?
This could backfire. Leading expert Michael Seto analysed a lot of illegal material under police supervision as part of the research for his 2014 book on the topic and had to acknowledge that in the vast majority of the material the children were very much enjoying what was going on. Doesn't make it right, of course, but my point is that one would have to resort to showing the world material that isn't typically representative in order to have the desired effect. Aside from that point, if one buys the line that every instance of viewing causes further harm (which is total nonsense, of course), then there are some obvious moral questions to be asked. Who would feature in the material to be shown to the whole world, and why should they be singled out as the one whose CSAM is to be made public on such a scale? Had your encounters been filmed, Jeremy, would you volunteer?
You're so knowledgeable on this topic. While I've not been a victim of csa, I value your input. And, while I don't know Jeremy personally, I suspect he does, too.
@@BeingLifted That's very kind of you to say, thank you. Much of the scientific knowledge doesn't dovetail neatly with the 'folk knowledge' (i.e. the bogeyman myths). Workable solutions need to be steered by the former rather than the latter. I have no idea whether Jeremy values my input because he's generally too busy to respond, which is absolutely fine because I can see he approaches his work with a great deal of energy and commitment.
@@AM_o2000 You're welcome. I agree about the use of scientific knowledge. All true knowledge is power. (Unfortunately, some fake knowledge is power, too.)
I do not think seeing a child enjoying abuse would make the viewer less disturbed. It is almost more disturbing when a victim doesn’t feel/understand their horrific circumstances. Feeling sensational pleasure does not equate to ethics.
People who reject the abuse of children would immediately be more than disturbed. Anyone who is not immediately disturb (even if child seems pleased) has questions to answer, in my opinion.
I’m sure plenty of victims would want to help by allowing their video be seen for the public shock. Not that anyone would have to know it’s them. Facial blurring could be used. Though to contradict myself I actually do believe that every viewing brings more harm, at least when viewed through exploitation.
Because I think what you want to do could be effective, Jeremy, I have an idea. You might still run into walls so it could take some effort but ...
I attended an independent film school a little over a decade ago. The students were able to participate in the making of a film that was released: initially, it made it to Redbox and, I think, eventually made Netflix.
The film was a vision of the school's Owner. Since the school didn't teach the making of documentary films and, because the "easiest" genre to get into filmmaking is horror, that's what we worked on.
HOWEVER, while I was there, the owner of the school was approached by someone who wanted a documentary made about the tragedy of dog fighting for profit. He chose to get involved and made the powerful film.
I'm in the United States but perhaps you could have the same good fortune with your vision made into a documentary (of any length) in the UK.
If you hit upon the right film school owner, CEO, or director, perhaps they'll help you fulfill your vision. I suppose a University Filmmaking Dept. is a possibility, as well.
Then, by virtue of it being accepted into a Film Festival, particularly if it's well done (emotionally moving), it has the potential to garner "free advertising" and expand the number of viewers exponentially.
You might also benefit by "tapping" Ela Thier (pronounced AYla Teer), who runs "The IIndependent Film School" online and has, at minimum, a RUclips channel and a Facebook page. She may have additional ideas for you, or may be able to direct you to former students who have met with success and who may have an interest in furthering your cause.
You've received more knowledgable input than mine but I'll throw my two cents in as someone fairly well removed from the topic.
I assume you would mask the child's face to protect his/her identity. But, even doing that, it would make people very uncomfortable, which could make them angry.
For that reason, I'm not sure there's a social platform in the world that would allow the video to be posted.
I could be wrong. While what you propose doing would be for good reasons, being a subscriber to Checkmate: Humanity, I'm always appalled at what channel hosts can get away with saying and doing for negative reasons (victimizing innocent people, including victims, for views). But I'm still not sure that kind of video would last long in the public eye.
While it seems that posting a video such as you suggested, might actually open the topic for further discussion, even masking the child's face and eliminating audio could be seen by some as continued abuse, regardless of what you say.
You know how it is to be triggered -- some people won't hear anything you say and could blame you for triggering their anxiety.
On the 'continued abuse' issue, by which I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that you're referring to the ipse dixit 'each new instance of viewing reinforces the harm', it's worth adding that an FBI report suggested that nearly 90% of the CSAM out there on the clearnet and darknet is old material 'reissued' by the FBI to catch people viewing it. So if the argument does hold water, then the FBI is responsible for a lot of that harm. Which is pretty ironic given that they're in the business of trying to prevent such harm. Perhaps they should deploy the same resources on preventing contact offences in the first place.
However, the argument doesn't hold water unless the victim or party portrayed is _aware_ of each instance of viewing. I recall a newsletter from the UK's Internet Watch Foundation from a few years ago opening with an anecdote about a victim being retraumatised every time a 'brown envelope' of a certain style landed on her doormat, because she knew it would be informing her that the CSAM of her had cropped up in yet another court case. There's an obvious answer to preventing that harm: opt out of being informed. It does seem that the aim of perpetually informing victims is designed to sustain the idea that such things result in lifelong trauma, even if that means opening wounds time and again in order to be able to say 'look, the wounds still haven't healed!'
@@AM_o2000 Thanks for explaining ipse dixit! If 90% of the CSAM out there is attributable to the FBI, Jeremy should be able to do it. It's plainly obvious what his goal is.
By the way, I'm not doubting you on the statistics you provided. I won't be looking them up and it makes sense why the FBI would reuse old material -- they can't very well create new images.
Your last paragraph was particularly interesting. I hope the fact that the victims can opt out is made clearly obvious to them. Perhaps by a single-page cover "letter" advising of the ability to opt out in very large print -- and nothing else. I agree that it's hard to recover from trauma when the fact you were made a victim is continually reinforced. I'm not going into my story because it's too long and, frankly, unbelievable to some. But I can say that I'm attempting to represent myself in a debt collection case resulting from secondary trauma. I'll add that, while it was due to an abusive relationship, it did not involve a lover or housemate, which is only a small part of why it can seem unbelievable.
Surprisingly, having to represent myself has been helpful -- if only to a small degree -- because I had to serve my own Discovery on the Plaintiff. Even so, there's a level of underlying stress on a continual basis. I'm making progress rebuilding my life but, until this case is resolved, it's a constant reminder.
I truly feel for those people who continue finding brown envelopes on their doorsteps and hope they recognize the value in opting out. And seek the help of someone trained in EMDR therapy. That was absolutely astounding -- simple and surprisingly effective. (Unfortunately, my awesome therapist moved on from the non-profit organization he was working with. I'm waiting for a new one.)
But I digress. Thank you for continuing to share your accumulated knowledge on the topic of CSA. I hope Jeremy sees it and finds a platform to put his idea to work -- it seems it would need to be a documentary film that people choose to watch and share. The thought of which just gave me an idea to share on the main page to this video ...
I don't think they should be used, instead create fictional or animated material that is known to not look indistinguishable from a real human.
Such material is still illegal in Jeremy's jurisdiction, but obviously has the advantage of no real victim. One issue that might arise is that people might doubt whether it's truly representative (potential for exaggeration or the opposite).
@@AM_o2000 even if it's not created solely as a deterrence for consume csam. The viewers of Loli and Shota Hentai are normal people who have no inkling of attraction to prepubescent children. I see no reason for people to worry, even if I find it personally disgusting.
@@ethio1931 Sure, but hentai isn't CSAM.
@@AM_o2000 didn't say it was, I was referring to preventive measures in helping to cope with their paraphilia