Best thing I ever did was moving on my late 70's P basses for a used CS 55 Time Machine P, and AVRI 57 P. (2011 and 2012, respectively) They play like a dream, and can nail the respective tones I wanted dead to rights. They were both in almost unplayed original condition for almost half their initial sale price at the time, and both were better instruments than those 70's Ps. As far as amps go. Even on bass I'm a full tube guy only. I've got the modern Bassman 100t and Super Bassman (which only gets used for large outdoor shows) I can run over my 410Neo. That said, my main rig is actually an 83 Bassman Ten I picked up for under 4 bills and put a couple into to have my amp guy go through it and get it into fighting trim. Sounds incredible. From pretty cleans to gnarly grit with just a little bit of digging in. No fuss, no muss. Just drop a Beta52a in front of her and plug a P with flats straight in and she's good to go.
This cannot be stated enough: People of the world: It does not matter if your guitar, amp, pedals are new, old, expensive or affordable. Just play it. Do not be sucked into the sales, marketing, and monification of musician culture.
@@jeremyschuh that’s the best way, the only way to get rid of confirmation bias is to just try everything you can get your hands on, changed my life as far as buying music equipment
I love you guys and the content you make, it's so relaxing and enjoyable to consume, please just keep talking about whatever comes to mind and posting these videos!
My first real fender amp is a '93 blues deluxe that I re-capped, re-tubed, and re-voiced (speaker swap). It's so sweet! It's almost thirty yrs old so it's going to be my vintage amp soon enough😁
I like to play what inspires me sonically and feels broken in, hence I'm all about 70's Fender basses. The search for the good ones and where the deals are is inspiring these days. Custom shops are close, but I get more inspiration from something old and gnarled.
Great topic! I have Vintage Fender, Gibson, Epiphone & Dobro. I have custom shops by Gibson and Fender, they have the playabilty and the vintage the tone. Love them all1
Regarding the headline of your presentation; SPOT ON! Whereas I recognize (and approve of) the work of great handmade amp builders, I personally LOVE my very contemporary headless- through a 5E3, and/or my Blue Angel 4x10 combo- which now qualifies as 'vintage'! Tone galore! If you view the guitar as simply 'control appliance' (which IS what it is- give or take), what you control it with becomes the character of your sound! Guitars wear- Amps might develop a leaky cap or two, and/or a bad speaker over time, but otherwise bombproof technology...Beer spills notwithstanding (don't do it)!
I understand that wood ages and you can try and re-create that but I don’t think it’s the same as having a naturally aged vintage guitar. As far as amps go it seems like it would be easier to re-create a vintage one. Unless old electronics, I’m not trying to be funny, actually sound better? My first electric was a used 72 Fender American standard Stratocaster and I had no money for an amp so this guy gave me a little one one watt tube amp from Fender that had a blown tube. I knew even less back then and instead of replacing the tube I bought Peavy studio 40 and tossed the Fender Amp. I have no idea if those amps were/are worth anything but I wish I had it back. I wish I had the guitar back too but at least I sold that for some money. Great video guys!
Wearing good cans really helps hear the tone through RUclips videos. The guys over at TPS really drive that concept home for me. As for amps, I recently got in a comment argument with some guys claiming their axe fx sounds better than a tube amp. I had to explain to them that the tones you’re trying to get out of your digital modeler are modeled after tones from tube amps. Why would you pick the imitation over the original? You will never convince me that digital is better than analog.
I picked up a Tone Master Twin late last year. I'm officially over the whole old amp thing. Playing someone else's old amp in great condition is a blast, I'm just done with the hassle and uncertainty of owning one.
Great video guys. Hey I installed the flooring for Walter White's house on the set of Breaking Bad my work was in all of season 1 and 2 episodes of season 2. Then the set went to the new Albuquerque studios. When we were working the staff said this crap will never make it to TV. They were way wrong
The thing is ,...i got a '67 sg . And its the best guitar , i've ever heard .. and i use it ! But for a gig , i have a modern les paul with grovers .. and it's faaar superiour for that job
It will be very interesting to revisit this video in a few years. If what Brian Wampler said last week on the Chasing Tone podcast is accurate, we are in for a rude awaking. There are only two tube manufacturers left and they are having issues. Consumer level buyers won't have issues for a little while but, but large scale manufacturers will be soon. I think Fender saw the writing on the wall with the Tone Master series.
It's the exact situation I was in when I started playing years ago. The tube amps were there but you had to track down a crate of NOS Sylvania tubes that were manufactured when your dad was a child if a tube blew. It was horrible. So I got used to solid state and became a slut for a good solid state amp. I figure if a solid state Yamaha worked for Eddie it's good enough for me, especially since tubes were out of my reach. Now I've just gotten used to transistors and never learned the skill for dialing in a tube amp. Sunn Leads, Peavey Bandits, and Orange/Gibson were the amps I had to roll with. Now those amps are vintage. I guess I'm vintage too.
I have an Original 1959 Jazzmaster and a 2008 1961 Custom Shop Strat. The two are comparable but the tone on the vintage is truly special. But, vintage comes with high cost, high anxiety and difficult to find parts/lutheirs for vintage. Custom shop gets you 80-95% the way there for about 20-25% the price and 50%< relief on anxiety. Just my two cents.
I had a 58/59 Jazzmaster with the anodized guard. It never gelled with me - felt like a prefect and new guitar. No mojo. I let it go to help fund another purchase and haven’t missed it. Somewhere I remember reading someone say that early JMs are very Tele like and not at all what we think of as the JM sound and that was true for mine. I’m wondering if maybe later ones from 61 on sound different. What’s your take
@@IrishBog so it was my grandpa's guitar, he gave it to me just 4 months before he passed away; and I am a lefty so I can't appreciate the guitar for all it is worth. Tone wise it does have quite a lot of presence and treble which I particularly like, when the tone is rolled off it warms up part nicely without sounding too "quacky" or odd in the low end if that makes any sense? I do not have any experience with vintage telecasters so I cannot quite speak on them but I would agree the late 58/59 Jazzmasters have a lot of presence and treble; a fair amount of bite and really nails the surf tone.
My buddy has a Two Rock head and cab and then also has a 4 x 10 or 12 ( not 100% sure ) Victoria. He plugs in either his Xotic Strat or Tele ( Both Xotics ) and the tone he gets out of this set up is amazing. If I were blindfolded I’d swear he was playing an incredible vintage Fender meanwhile it’s just all high end new equipment. It’s amazing what you can purchase these days as long as your pockets are deep enough lol 😂
I like to get the old Peavey amps! $200-300 amps made in the USA. $200 bandit, $300 delta blues 2/10, $399 mint classic 30 and $300 1970 vintage classic 4/10. But, I gig with a little fender super champ and a Boss Nextone with a terror stamp for back up. My favorite amps are too heavy for moving around.
If I’ve said this once I’ve said it 100X. If you come across an old Hammond amp (AO-35, AO-43, AO-44) buy it. These are fantastical chassis that you can take to an amp tech and turn into something really great.
Problem with old amps is unless you’re mechanically inclined it’s hard to keep them running right. I had a Twin when it was right it was really right. When it wasn’t, it was $75 an hour. Related question. Why do old tube amps have that smell when they’re hot and the newer ones don’t? Just wondering.
@@zoomzoom3950 i used to have an early 60s model Supro that always sounded amazing in a controlled environment but I learned quickly I shouldn’t gig with. I was playing in a joint and every few minutes or so I would get a very loud hum from the amp. Come to find the plug I was in was on the same circuit as the men’s room and every time someone hit the button on the air hand dryer the Supro would hum.
@@wewin03 Yes, back in the day I had many old tube amps including a pre-CBS Fender Bandmaster and a 2x15" cabinet, Univox, etc. whatever I could find that was loud enough and worked, eventually got a full ADA full stack (with four 2x12" vertical splitstacks) rack rig that was my main gigging rig for years, with MP-1 and MQ-1 and Alesis Quadraverb. I eventually replaced the MP-1 and MQ-1 with an MP-2. I also owned an ART SGX-2000 that I swapped out of my ADA rack ;)
I have a Kemper. It gives me every amps, cabs and effects I could possibly dream of. Zero GAS to buy more stuff. And I only use 3 profiles at all times (distorted amp, clean amp and one for my bass). If I ever do need any other tone than my standard 3 profiles.. I can just scroll through the rest in the library :P Rarely happens. But at least I dont have to buy another amp or pedal or whatever.
Yep, my dream amp is my Engl rack half stack, purchased new when big tube amps were still popular. I don't get the chance to get the power amp hot often these days, but it has the best pristine cleans to the highest levels of distortion saturation with many usable points in between. If I could find those tones in a lower wattage 1x12 combo, I'd be set. :)
Just saw a ZZ Top show, and Billy only brought out Pearly Gates for one song. Most of the time he was playing what looked like a custom shop Cabronita with a light blue hexagon pattern on it.
I didn’t learn how important the amp was, and how to pick the one I wanted and dial in a good tone, until I was older. I recall so many opportunities to have bought a really cool amp 15 to 20 years ago, before the used market started going insane, but I just wanted guitars and pedals. A lot of the new amps are pretty cool these days though, even if they’re all circuit boards. I need to get at least one nice hand wired amp though!
I currently have several amps. All are new except my 1985 Marshall JCM800. By far I play the Marshall more than any of the others. There is just something about the tone of it that none of the newer amps can touch.
I'd recommend Johan Segeborn's channel for the answer to your question. In a word, no, it's not just a case of speakers being broken in, but yes speaker changes are probably the most cost-effective means of altering your tone.
Technology advances for a purpose and it’s good to see people advance with the new guitar tech. Anything to improve the playing performance and make barriers to entry shorter is a good thing.
They have better sponsor opportunities playing a new prs, fender, or gibson model. When many of these companies release a model they ship it to the player to market the guitar for them via instagram or youtube, the other aspect is many appreciate the compound radius and modern features. But alot of the session players do own crazy vintage guitars, i shrunk my gear down to a 40 year old gibson lp custom, 1991 avri 57 ri strat, and a 1968 traynor tube amp i had modded to sound marshall at 50 watts and fender at 20 watts through a 1980 marshall 4x12. For new stuff i use customshop jimmy page tele and the new sundragon amp a reissue of jimmys modded supro from zeppelin 1. I mix an match the old guitars with the new amps and new guitars w old amps. I like blending the supro w the traynor w that combo all the guitars sound amazing and offer a complete palette of sound, and playability.
I have 1 "vintage" guitar mostly cause it was my first good guitar its a 74 s100 it is so USED it needs new frets but then i loose my nibs it just is kinda cracked n concerning ways. Its not the first guitar i grab. Now as a young man i used a super twin and pedals now i have a bassbreaker that weighs 40 pounds i would not be able to lift either of the old fenders i had
I'll take my custom shop strat every day over an original. The sheer attention to detail on how it plays... Man. My 65 bandmaster on the other hand has a sound I haven't found in anything modern
Just sold off two of my older guitars (now the only guitar I have from the previous millennium is my first guitar)... and spent the proceeds on a new PRS. There's just no place in my stable for vintage guitars unless they have some sentimental significance. New is better!
"Ice-picking"?? That's a new one on me. And, my favorite gigging amp (for bass guitar) for years and years was a 1992 Hartke Kick Back with a 12" speaker. Great sound, reasonably reliable, etc, Then, Fender released (and I purchased) the Rumble 100, which weighs an amazing 22lbs!! That became my gig amp for bass immediately. Very good sound (maybe not quite as rich as the Hartke, which weighs more than twice as much) extremely reliable, and I can carry it and my guitar in a gig bag in and out of a venue in one trip! And when I say reliable, I mean it. I play every year in multiple Mardi Gras parades here in New Orleans. We (the band) ride on a decked-out trailer, pulled by a pickup truck, with generator-produced power. This setup is VERY hard on equipment. Each parade is about 6 miles long, over New Orleans' ridiculously bad streets, and you get rained on about 1 trip in 3. (the trailer has a roof and plastic roll-up sides, but water still gets in everything.). The Fender Rumble 100 has tolerated 3 years' worth of parades no problem. In contrast, the Hartke needed lots of maintenance. Typically the wiring to the speaker and/or the input jack would be loosened, and it would develop mold/mildew inside the enclosure. As each parade went by in a season, the Hartke would develop more and more static, and might just go out altogether. I got in the habit of opening it and checking the wiring after each parade when it did go out on the route once. No problems whatsoever with the Fender. It sounds exactly the same as the day I bought it.
I prefer new PRS. I’m just not a vintage guy. Give me a new guitar the sounds great, stays in tune, and I don’t have to send to the luthier to get the bugs worked out. As far as amps? Two Rocks and Matchless (that I had to part with). Hoping to get another Matchless this year. You guys need to become Matchless dealers.
Music is art, you shouldn’t limit your self to other people’s expectations of a skill set that’s purely self expression. If it sounds good play it, if it sucks dont
Tim uses mainly player grade guitars, Tom uses mostly vintage, his latest is a LP, junior instantly converted to player grade. 🤔🤔🥃Respect and stay healthy all
My '61 SG Special is very much a trophy. Yeah, it sounds great, and the neck plays like butter, but it's nowhere near the player my Custom Shop '59 Tele is. The Tele is the best guitar I've ever owned. Full stop. I own a couple of vintage Fender amps and I'm looking for more (that pisses the wife off). Oh yeah, I really need that Silver Sky😉 maybe not really.
Tim pierce is awesome! lol Gibson + Game of Thrones lol . . . . I had a a hot girl cheat on me, not a good feeling, she swore and thought I'd be back, but no way. I didn't want to be that guy in that offspring song . . . so I bit the bullet and took major damage and washed my hands of her . . . sometimes think about it. Still jaded. My current GF is too good to be true, but she's the best and fab, and she knows I'm holding back but maybe for my ex I'll turn it into a song.
Did someone just say Red Knob!?! Red Knobs for the win. I love my Dual Showman Red Knob. More great tone combos available than anything I've ever heard. Sure, it weigh 87 pounds, but a healthy spine is overrated.....
Guitarists are funny. Those old vintage amps and guitars were new or not very old when used to create music in the '60s and beyond. The imagined "magic" of vintage gear or playing gymnastics won't overcome lack of creativity and songwriting talent. Remember: riffs are not songs
I’ve played trumpet and guitar for most of my life. I’ve never met a trumpet player with 10+ trumpets. Guitarists please stop falling for the marketing gimmicks. You don’t need every shape, or every wood combination, or every pick up combination.
I can't say that I am a trumpet "player" or know anyone who actively plays, but I did play in HS band. There was a day that our band teacher brought in a bunch of different styles of trumpets as well as other instruments. Some were silver, some different shades of gold, some a combination of both (the color that is; pretty sure they're all brass). He let us try them out and I could definitely hear differences in the reverb and tone. How is changing guitars, pickups, amps, ect.. any different? They're all made with different components, different wiring schematics, and yes, different woods. So they're all gonna sound a little different. Will they make you a better player? Hell no, but it's nice to have a few different instruments for different things. It would really suck if I only had one guitar and had to raise the action every single time I wanted to play slide.
@@airplaneB3N sure every instrument will have its own nuances but my point is guitar/bass players are the only musicians I can think of that think they need one of everything. As a trumpet player I could own a Piccolo trumpet, a concert C trumpet, a slide trumpet, a pocket trumpet and so on. I wouldn’t expect someone who plays blues and classical to use a strat or nylon string for both styles.
Baxter would win, Why you ask 1.) He said he works out 2.) he rubs his guitars to relic it so that would just add brute strength 3.) his hair is just way better than Jonathan’s (not the beard sorry) 4.) he’s just as if not hotter than that silver sky 5.) he’s gonna lose his mind so much that he just crush Jonathan 6.) he’s just so much cooler that Jonathan (don’t take offense Jonathan)
Respectfully disagree here. Old amps can be replicated to the finest of detail with small amp builders of today. Their electronic components can still be found or replicated more easily than the inconsistent wiring of old pickups that have magnets that have now aged. Then there is the fact that older instruments often have older woods. 100 people out there could build a spot on jtm45, and use the same manufacting methods as period pieces. With old tubes it is equivalent to the old amps. New guitars are made differently with wood that is much younger, artificially aged at best. Not all of course. There are some who can hand wind a fairly convincing pick up and do the woodwork etc. i think both old guitars and amps can be “replicated” reasonably well but I would argue amps are easier to accomplish. You can get all the same parts today, with some difficulty. You can’t get the same woods as easily, although it can be sone for a price as well.
Best thing I ever did was moving on my late 70's P basses for a used CS 55 Time Machine P, and AVRI 57 P. (2011 and 2012, respectively) They play like a dream, and can nail the respective tones I wanted dead to rights. They were both in almost unplayed original condition for almost half their initial sale price at the time, and both were better instruments than those 70's Ps. As far as amps go. Even on bass I'm a full tube guy only. I've got the modern Bassman 100t and Super Bassman (which only gets used for large outdoor shows) I can run over my 410Neo. That said, my main rig is actually an 83 Bassman Ten I picked up for under 4 bills and put a couple into to have my amp guy go through it and get it into fighting trim. Sounds incredible. From pretty cleans to gnarly grit with just a little bit of digging in. No fuss, no muss. Just drop a Beta52a in front of her and plug a P with flats straight in and she's good to go.
I'm very happy with what I have old and New nothing will be sold it's all being passed down to family members
This cannot be stated enough: People of the world: It does not matter if your guitar, amp, pedals are new, old, expensive or affordable. Just play it. Do not be sucked into the sales, marketing, and monification of musician culture.
Play everything you can get your hands on with an open mind. Even if it is something that you don't think you would like.
@@jeremyschuh that’s the best way, the only way to get rid of confirmation bias is to just try everything you can get your hands on, changed my life as far as buying music equipment
I love you guys and the content you make, it's so relaxing and enjoyable to consume, please just keep talking about whatever comes to mind and posting these videos!
My first real fender amp is a '93 blues deluxe that I re-capped, re-tubed, and re-voiced (speaker swap). It's so sweet! It's almost thirty yrs old so it's going to be my vintage amp soon enough😁
I like to play what inspires me sonically and feels broken in, hence I'm all about 70's Fender basses. The search for the good ones and where the deals are is inspiring these days. Custom shops are close, but I get more inspiration from something old and gnarled.
Keep:
Guitars old
Amps old
Cords new!
Scroggins band loves this channel. Shout out from Fayetteville nc .You guys have great knowledge and honest clear perspectives . Rock on guys!!!
I have the older Vox ADVT series Amps 2007 it's a hybrid today it stills sounds incredible I wish Vox would reissue them
100% on the weekend muscle-car analogy for vintage guitars!
Hey guys, how bout a tour of your back wall, and a glimpse of the shop?
Love you guys! Thanks for keeping those videos coming.
Happy new year love watching
you guys thank you for everything
Great topic! I have Vintage Fender, Gibson, Epiphone & Dobro. I have custom shops by Gibson and Fender, they have the playabilty and the vintage the tone. Love them all1
"He ain't good, but he's cheap" is basically my entire sales pitch for session work.
Thanks for confirming what my instincts already told me lol My #1's are a Danocaster double cut ino a 67 deluxe reverb :)) great stuff as usual guys!
Good to see Bax back, ♤$$$$$$$$$$
Love my 67 Supro Thunderbolt
I have one I bought for 300 at a pawn shop a few months ago. It needs new tubes and probably more. Someday....
My fiancée and I have enjoyed some Outlander. It's pretty good for what it is! And that nice lady don't look too bad nekkid.
Regarding the headline of your presentation; SPOT ON! Whereas I recognize (and approve of) the work of great handmade amp builders, I personally LOVE my very contemporary headless- through a 5E3, and/or my Blue Angel 4x10 combo- which now qualifies as 'vintage'! Tone galore! If you view the guitar as simply 'control appliance' (which IS what it is- give or take), what you control it with becomes the character of your sound! Guitars wear- Amps might develop a leaky cap or two, and/or a bad speaker over time, but otherwise bombproof technology...Beer spills notwithstanding (don't do it)!
I might be biased, but i would rather have a dirty old beat up 80's or 90's AVRI that has been played than a custom shop relic with fake mojo.
I understand that wood ages and you can try and re-create that but I don’t think it’s the same as having a naturally aged vintage guitar. As far as amps go it seems like it would be easier to re-create a vintage one. Unless old electronics, I’m not trying to be funny, actually sound better? My first electric was a used 72 Fender American standard Stratocaster and I had no money for an amp so this guy gave me a little one one watt tube amp from Fender that had a blown tube. I knew even less back then and instead of replacing the tube I bought Peavy studio 40 and tossed the Fender Amp. I have no idea if those amps were/are worth anything but I wish I had it back. I wish I had the guitar back too but at least I sold that for some money. Great video guys!
Old guitars and amps were not vintage, most were new, when used to create the tones guitarists are still chasing today.
At home its usually PRS guitars into my tweed twin reissue. If i go jam somewhere, its the Duo Sonic reissue, with a 65 princeton reissue.
Wearing good cans really helps hear the tone through RUclips videos. The guys over at TPS really drive that concept home for me.
As for amps, I recently got in a comment argument with some guys claiming their axe fx sounds better than a tube amp. I had to explain to them that the tones you’re trying to get out of your digital modeler are modeled after tones from tube amps. Why would you pick the imitation over the original? You will never convince me that digital is better than analog.
Best tool for the job and best Tech to fix it when it breaks!
My favorite current rig is my homemade strat copy and my 72 twin. Don't be afraid of those big ol' fenders, they sound great at any volume.
I picked up a Tone Master Twin late last year. I'm officially over the whole old amp thing. Playing someone else's old amp in great condition is a blast, I'm just done with the hassle and uncertainty of owning one.
Great video guys. Hey I installed the flooring for Walter White's house on the set of Breaking Bad my work was in all of season 1 and 2 episodes of season 2. Then the set went to the new Albuquerque studios. When we were working the staff said this crap will never make it to TV. They were way wrong
its good to see Bruce Banner and Thor are still friends. Love your stuff guys!
The thing is ,...i got a '67 sg . And its the best guitar , i've ever heard .. and i use it !
But for a gig , i have a modern les paul with grovers .. and it's faaar superiour for that job
I just bought a used Mesa V 25 white mini stack. Can’t wait……!!!!!
😎 Thanks Casino ⚓️
It will be very interesting to revisit this video in a few years. If what Brian Wampler said last week on the Chasing Tone podcast is accurate, we are in for a rude awaking. There are only two tube manufacturers left and they are having issues. Consumer level buyers won't have issues for a little while but, but large scale manufacturers will be soon. I think Fender saw the writing on the wall with the Tone Master series.
I have also been pointing this out. Major tube shortages occurring. Makes you wonder about that Gibson amp announcement.
It's the exact situation I was in when I started playing years ago. The tube amps were there but you had to track down a crate of NOS Sylvania tubes that were manufactured when your dad was a child if a tube blew. It was horrible. So I got used to solid state and became a slut for a good solid state amp. I figure if a solid state Yamaha worked for Eddie it's good enough for me, especially since tubes were out of my reach. Now I've just gotten used to transistors and never learned the skill for dialing in a tube amp.
Sunn Leads, Peavey Bandits, and Orange/Gibson were the amps I had to roll with. Now those amps are vintage. I guess I'm vintage too.
So hanging on to my 1970 Princton Reverb, but losing the old guitars so I had to start over was a good thing? I'll take it!
Would love to see you guys do a video on Rickenbacker. Currently saving for a 330.
What about a 53 Goldtop with a Mesa Boogie Rectifier?
I think i changed strings twice since the shutdown. Had guitars that broke strings,,,,now, i can wait.
CyberTwin still works. Spark just in wait mode.
Great videos guys but can we get more videos w you guys playing some guitars?
can you talk about the Fender Blues Jr (tweed) style amp.
I have an Original 1959 Jazzmaster and a 2008 1961 Custom Shop Strat. The two are comparable but the tone on the vintage is truly special. But, vintage comes with high cost, high anxiety and difficult to find parts/lutheirs for vintage. Custom shop gets you 80-95% the way there for about 20-25% the price and 50%< relief on anxiety. Just my two cents.
I had a 58/59 Jazzmaster with the anodized guard. It never gelled with me - felt like a prefect and new guitar. No mojo. I let it go to help fund another purchase and haven’t missed it. Somewhere I remember reading someone say that early JMs are very Tele like and not at all what we think of as the JM sound and that was true for mine. I’m wondering if maybe later ones from 61 on sound different. What’s your take
@@IrishBog so it was my grandpa's guitar, he gave it to me just 4 months before he passed away; and I am a lefty so I can't appreciate the guitar for all it is worth. Tone wise it does have quite a lot of presence and treble which I particularly like, when the tone is rolled off it warms up part nicely without sounding too "quacky" or odd in the low end if that makes any sense? I do not have any experience with vintage telecasters so I cannot quite speak on them but I would agree the late 58/59 Jazzmasters have a lot of presence and treble; a fair amount of bite and really nails the surf tone.
My buddy has a Two Rock head and cab and then also has a 4 x 10 or 12 ( not 100% sure ) Victoria. He plugs in either his Xotic Strat or Tele ( Both Xotics ) and the tone he gets out of this set up is amazing. If I were blindfolded I’d swear he was playing an incredible vintage Fender meanwhile it’s just all high end new equipment. It’s amazing what you can purchase these days as long as your pockets are deep enough lol 😂
Good advice right chea
I like to get the old Peavey amps! $200-300 amps made in the USA. $200 bandit, $300 delta blues 2/10, $399 mint classic 30 and $300 1970 vintage classic 4/10. But, I gig with a little fender super champ and a Boss Nextone with a terror stamp for back up. My favorite amps are too heavy for moving around.
If I’ve said this once I’ve said it 100X. If you come across an old Hammond amp (AO-35, AO-43, AO-44) buy it. These are fantastical chassis that you can take to an amp tech and turn into something really great.
They work great in my '62 Hammond A-102 and matching Leslie 142.
I’ll play what’s available
As for my stuff old or new doesn’t matter, although I don’t know if I could call any of my gear vintage
The first time I actually Lol’ed at a casino video. When Baxter said “your cat”!
Problem with old amps is unless you’re mechanically inclined it’s hard to keep them running right. I had a Twin when it was right it was really right. When it wasn’t, it was $75 an hour. Related question. Why do old tube amps have that smell when they’re hot and the newer ones don’t? Just wondering.
the old amps have mojo from years of spilled beer and urine which burns off slowly.
@@zoomzoom3950 i used to have an early 60s model Supro that always sounded amazing in a controlled environment but I learned quickly I shouldn’t gig with. I was playing in a joint and every few minutes or so I would get a very loud hum from the amp. Come to find the plug I was in was on the same circuit as the men’s room and every time someone hit the button on the air hand dryer the Supro would hum.
@@wewin03 Yes, back in the day I had many old tube amps including a pre-CBS Fender Bandmaster and a 2x15" cabinet, Univox, etc. whatever I could find that was loud enough and worked, eventually got a full ADA full stack (with four 2x12" vertical splitstacks) rack rig that was my main gigging rig for years, with MP-1 and MQ-1 and Alesis Quadraverb. I eventually replaced the MP-1 and MQ-1 with an MP-2.
I also owned an ART SGX-2000 that I swapped out of my ADA rack ;)
@@zoomzoom3950 How the hell do you get urine in/on your amp ?! I mean, beer, sure.. but urine ? wtf lol
I have a Kemper. It gives me every amps, cabs and effects I could possibly dream of.
Zero GAS to buy more stuff. And I only use 3 profiles at all times (distorted amp, clean amp and one for my bass).
If I ever do need any other tone than my standard 3 profiles.. I can just scroll through the rest in the library :P
Rarely happens. But at least I dont have to buy another amp or pedal or whatever.
I've had the old Fender, Marshal and Laney's, sold all that for a new ENGL. But I just maintain and update my guitars.
Yep, my dream amp is my Engl rack half stack, purchased new when big tube amps were still popular. I don't get the chance to get the power amp hot often these days, but it has the best pristine cleans to the highest levels of distortion saturation with many usable points in between.
If I could find those tones in a lower wattage 1x12 combo, I'd be set. :)
Just saw a ZZ Top show, and Billy only brought out Pearly Gates for one song. Most of the time he was playing what looked like a custom shop Cabronita with a light blue hexagon pattern on it.
What about SOA?
I didn’t learn how important the amp was, and how to pick the one I wanted and dial in a good tone, until I was older. I recall so many opportunities to have bought a really cool amp 15 to 20 years ago, before the used market started going insane, but I just wanted guitars and pedals. A lot of the new amps are pretty cool these days though, even if they’re all circuit boards.
I need to get at least one nice hand wired amp though!
It’s better to have a great amp than a great guitar.
Personally my #1 is a 97 LP Standard paired with my 90’s MesaBoogie Mark I. And Jonathan for the win in the arm wrestling contest!
I currently have several amps. All are new except my 1985 Marshall JCM800. By far I play the Marshall more than any of the others. There is just something about the tone of it that none of the newer amps can touch.
don't stop believing. mojo is real ;)
Here’s a question. How much of the vintage amp sound is the broken in speakers. Is upgrading the speakers a better answer? Cheaper at least.
I'd recommend Johan Segeborn's channel for the answer to your question.
In a word, no, it's not just a case of speakers being broken in, but yes speaker changes are probably the most cost-effective means of altering your tone.
Thanks. Not practical for me to drop 3 to 5K on an amp to play the dive bar circuit
Technology advances for a purpose and it’s good to see people advance with the new guitar tech. Anything to improve the playing performance and make barriers to entry shorter is a good thing.
They have better sponsor opportunities playing a new prs, fender, or gibson model. When many of these companies release a model they ship it to the player to market the guitar for them via instagram or youtube, the other aspect is many appreciate the compound radius and modern features. But alot of the session players do own crazy vintage guitars, i shrunk my gear down to a 40 year old gibson lp custom, 1991 avri 57 ri strat, and a 1968 traynor tube amp i had modded to sound marshall at 50 watts and fender at 20 watts through a 1980 marshall 4x12. For new stuff i use customshop jimmy page tele and the new sundragon amp a reissue of jimmys modded supro from zeppelin 1. I mix an match the old guitars with the new amps and new guitars w old amps. I like blending the supro w the traynor w that combo all the guitars sound amazing and offer a complete palette of sound, and playability.
I have 1 "vintage" guitar mostly cause it was my first good guitar its a 74 s100 it is so USED it needs new frets but then i loose my nibs it just is kinda cracked n concerning ways. Its not the first guitar i grab. Now as a young man i used a super twin and pedals now i have a bassbreaker that weighs 40 pounds i would not be able to lift either of the old fenders i had
I'll take my custom shop strat every day over an original. The sheer attention to detail on how it plays... Man.
My 65 bandmaster on the other hand has a sound I haven't found in anything modern
I seriously do not understand why you don't have 50K subs.
Dad can I get a... Nope, it's too close to Christmas
Remember when vintage stuff was called "second hand" and was reasonably priced?
How old is old enough for an amp?
I'm definitely a new guitar old amp guy. Super Reverb all the way💪
Just sold off two of my older guitars (now the only guitar I have from the previous millennium is my first guitar)... and spent the proceeds on a new PRS. There's just no place in my stable for vintage guitars unless they have some sentimental significance. New is better!
‘83 fender champ II Rivera era available
So true …… New CS Strat + Old (but restored) Amps
Hmmm a Siver Sky is my dream guitar 🎸 😎
"Ice-picking"?? That's a new one on me. And, my favorite gigging amp (for bass guitar) for years and years was a 1992 Hartke Kick Back with a 12" speaker. Great sound, reasonably reliable, etc, Then, Fender released (and I purchased) the Rumble 100, which weighs an amazing 22lbs!! That became my gig amp for bass immediately. Very good sound (maybe not quite as rich as the Hartke, which weighs more than twice as much) extremely reliable, and I can carry it and my guitar in a gig bag in and out of a venue in one trip! And when I say reliable, I mean it. I play every year in multiple Mardi Gras parades here in New Orleans. We (the band) ride on a decked-out trailer, pulled by a pickup truck, with generator-produced power. This setup is VERY hard on equipment. Each parade is about 6 miles long, over New Orleans' ridiculously bad streets, and you get rained on about 1 trip in 3. (the trailer has a roof and plastic roll-up sides, but water still gets in everything.). The Fender Rumble 100 has tolerated 3 years' worth of parades no problem. In contrast, the Hartke needed lots of maintenance. Typically the wiring to the speaker and/or the input jack would be loosened, and it would develop mold/mildew inside the enclosure. As each parade went by in a season, the Hartke would develop more and more static, and might just go out altogether. I got in the habit of opening it and checking the wiring after each parade when it did go out on the route once. No problems whatsoever with the Fender. It sounds exactly the same as the day I bought it.
Oh, and I usually play a 1991 Fender Jazz bass for parades. That's about as vintage as I get
The Good/Fast/Cheap triangle is the truth
I prefer new PRS. I’m just not a vintage guy. Give me a new guitar the sounds great, stays in tune, and I don’t have to send to the luthier to get the bugs worked out. As far as amps? Two Rocks and Matchless (that I had to part with). Hoping to get another Matchless this year. You guys need to become Matchless dealers.
I'd like to compare my 1961 Les Paul/SG Jr with a new Custom Shop SG jr
I run newer guitars through my GA-5 skylark and I agree
All of my guitars and amps will be vintage one day. 🎸🎶
Music is art, you shouldn’t limit your self to other people’s expectations of a skill set that’s purely self expression. If it sounds good play it, if it sucks dont
Your subscriber numbers are creeping up. But will you be giving away a VINTAGE Silver Sky by the time we reach the 50K subscription mark?
Vintage amps are cheaper than vintage guitars. It is also acceptable to update the worn parts.
Tim uses mainly player grade guitars, Tom uses mostly vintage, his latest is a LP, junior instantly converted to player grade. 🤔🤔🥃Respect and stay healthy all
I needs to see me some arm wrasslin'.
Baxter by tko
"Gibson is like the girl that keeps cheating on you...." Classic ! : )
Margie was a Gibson girl.......now that could be a song title!
My '61 SG Special is very much a trophy. Yeah, it sounds great, and the neck plays like butter, but it's nowhere near the player my Custom Shop '59 Tele is. The Tele is the best guitar I've ever owned. Full stop. I own a couple of vintage Fender amps and I'm looking for more (that pisses the wife off). Oh yeah, I really need that Silver Sky😉 maybe not really.
Tim Pierce seems to play a PRS whenever I see him.
That's because PRS pays him.....
Uncle Larry ftw
I'm a little of both .... An old and newer guitar.... an old and newer amp.......
Now that I know Baxter's wife is sitting on the couch, behind the camera on her phone, while he makes his wife jokes its even more funny.
that PRS tho
Tim pierce is awesome! lol Gibson + Game of Thrones lol . . . . I had a a hot girl cheat on me, not a good feeling, she swore and thought I'd be back, but no way. I didn't want to be that guy in that offspring song . . . so I bit the bullet and took major damage and washed my hands of her . . . sometimes think about it. Still jaded. My current GF is too good to be true, but she's the best and fab, and she knows I'm holding back but maybe for my ex I'll turn it into a song.
Faster riffs, older amps, newer guitars and more money
A vintage FENDER amp with point to point wiring can be a very reliable amp. Other vintage amps can be money pits.
I heard they cancelled the GOT prequel.
There were more than one
New guitars for me , or at least modern ones.
Did someone just say Red Knob!?!
Red Knobs for the win. I love my Dual Showman Red Knob. More great tone combos available than anything I've ever heard.
Sure, it weigh 87 pounds, but a healthy spine is overrated.....
Guitarists are funny.
Those old vintage amps and guitars were new or not very old when used to create music in the '60s and beyond.
The imagined "magic" of vintage gear or playing gymnastics won't overcome lack of creativity and songwriting talent.
Remember: riffs are not songs
LOVE my new Gretsch.
Excellent neck and frettwork out o' da box😎👍
Back in 2000 I picked up a well worn in PRS 1995 custom 24 at GC. The owner was working there and I got the whole history. The price was really fair.
I’ve played trumpet and guitar for most of my life. I’ve never met a trumpet player with 10+ trumpets. Guitarists please stop falling for the marketing gimmicks. You don’t need every shape, or every wood combination, or every pick up combination.
I can't say that I am a trumpet "player" or know anyone who actively plays, but I did play in HS band. There was a day that our band teacher brought in a bunch of different styles of trumpets as well as other instruments. Some were silver, some different shades of gold, some a combination of both (the color that is; pretty sure they're all brass). He let us try them out and I could definitely hear differences in the reverb and tone. How is changing guitars, pickups, amps, ect.. any different? They're all made with different components, different wiring schematics, and yes, different woods. So they're all gonna sound a little different. Will they make you a better player? Hell no, but it's nice to have a few different instruments for different things. It would really suck if I only had one guitar and had to raise the action every single time I wanted to play slide.
@@airplaneB3N sure every instrument will have its own nuances but my point is guitar/bass players are the only musicians I can think of that think they need one of everything. As a trumpet player I could own a Piccolo trumpet, a concert C trumpet, a slide trumpet, a pocket trumpet and so on. I wouldn’t expect someone who plays blues and classical to use a strat or nylon string for both styles.
Guitars and trumpets are two different things. Not even comparable.
In my experience buying a new Fender is a lottery.
Always has been, but most of the old tickets that weren't winners ended up as rubbish.
I’d say the opposite new amps vintage guitars. No figure.
Baxter would win, Why you ask
1.) He said he works out
2.) he rubs his guitars to relic it so that would just add brute strength
3.) his hair is just way better than Jonathan’s (not the beard sorry)
4.) he’s just as if not hotter than that silver sky
5.) he’s gonna lose his mind so much that he just crush Jonathan
6.) he’s just so much cooler that Jonathan (don’t take offense Jonathan)
Bad advice.....new guitar strat ir les paul and a stack of marshalls and a fender amp for sweetness all BRAND NEW...Best way to finish a gig..
Respectfully disagree here. Old amps can be replicated to the finest of detail with small amp builders of today. Their electronic components can still be found or replicated more easily than the inconsistent wiring of old pickups that have magnets that have now aged. Then there is the fact that older instruments often have older woods. 100 people out there could build a spot on jtm45, and use the same manufacting methods as period pieces. With old tubes it is equivalent to the old amps. New guitars are made differently with wood that is much younger, artificially aged at best. Not all of course. There are some who can hand wind a fairly convincing pick up and do the woodwork etc. i think both old guitars and amps can be “replicated” reasonably well but I would argue amps are easier to accomplish. You can get all the same parts today, with some difficulty. You can’t get the same woods as easily, although it can be sone for a price as well.