Full Frame vs Micro Four Thirds For WIDE Lenses (Sony 14mm f1 8 vs 7.5mm f2)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies  3 года назад +6

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    • @DR2PA
      @DR2PA 3 года назад +3

      I’m being spoiled. This guy is pumping daily videos

    • @psychologianiestacjonarna6558
      @psychologianiestacjonarna6558 3 года назад +1

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  • @oliverdesouza5741
    @oliverdesouza5741 3 года назад +9

    Hooray! Casey has learnt about Natural Toneh! Mimmicking the human eye is what looks most real. Indoors your iris is wide-open so you need F1.8 to get realistic toneh. Outdoors your eyes stop down (human auto-exposure is good), so the natural toneh look is at least F4, probably F5.6 on full frame. Learn to check what your eyes are showing you in each situation young Casey, and achieve Natural Toneh!

  • @SteveWB
    @SteveWB 3 года назад +19

    The G9 at factory settings under natural would be good competition. Try before you stone me

  • @chcomes
    @chcomes 3 года назад +12

    On the phone, the inside shots olympus won by a mile, pleasant face colours, sony had way too much contrast. Outside oly too yellow a bit, sony too red a bit. both nice, rich image q. autoexposure sometimes one would be better, sometimes the other.

    • @lionellow105
      @lionellow105 3 года назад +1

      I'm not sure what phone you're viewing this on to say the Olympus is better indoors

  • @nooddles12
    @nooddles12 3 года назад +7

    Thank you for calling them out. Sony needs constructive criticism from vloggers/customers. Or else they will keep recycling old tech as new.

  • @mattslaboratory5996
    @mattslaboratory5996 3 года назад +9

    Indoors with the superior Olympus you'd have to use a longer lens and set it back further in order to get soft Toneh (can't believe I wrote that). It might be worth it, since it's already superior outdoors. Too bad about the overexposure USER ERROR. Otherwise a great video.

  • @GillilandFarms
    @GillilandFarms 3 года назад +3

    I watch your vids on my 60 inch TV and both lenses have terrible wobbles in the corners when you’re walking. Maybe that’s inherent in super wide angle lenses in all brands for video. I use canon and haven’t purchased the 15-35 f2.8 for that exact reason. Inside, the Sony colors seem too red on your face while the Olympus looks more natural. That one shot you did with the bright backlight on both cameras shows just how good the Sony is for dynamic range, exposing your face correctly and catching the background without it being blown out, it’s amazing.

  • @JoATTech
    @JoATTech 3 года назад +6

    Still looks like you mixing REC2020 with REC709, that's why shirt colors are all over the place. Use Davinci's Color Space Transform when you mixing footage from different cameras or set the same standard in both cameras before recording.

  • @david.stachon
    @david.stachon 3 года назад +2

    I just love the super wide distortion effect.
    Just as you've done, putting your face in the middle so it looks normal, and the environment distorted around you looks really cool to me.

  • @billb8262
    @billb8262 3 года назад +9

    Before I even knew the cameras and lenses, I said to myself, "Whichever is on the right, the colors suck." Glad it was the expensive rig that sucks. Love M43...for the win, at least inside.

  • @bobcarter6483
    @bobcarter6483 3 года назад +4

    Your honesty sir is truly inspiring.

  • @MikeMena
    @MikeMena 3 года назад +14

    Ok I see it outside, the stretched out reality, it’s EXACTLY what I don’t like about the RF15-35 lens, the toneh itself is stretched, maybe it is too wide for outdoors where lots and lots of stretched toneh 🤔🤔🤔

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto 3 года назад +1

      Any lens that wide will stretch at the periphery. That's how 2D perspective works. A fisheye lens is actually optically more accurate to how your eye actually sees; but since human eyes only focus at the very center and our field of view isn't that wide, we can't perceive it.

  • @nikrotas
    @nikrotas 3 года назад +13

    Yes to your first question, even with your basic lighting and filming setup there is a huge difference, which can be further exacerbated with a more complex set :D
    Olympus looks like an action cam with a bit of toneh.

    • @maxbroden2053
      @maxbroden2053 3 года назад +3

      Whenever he puts the olympus footage besides something else, it really stands out.. in a bad way.

    • @andreasthegreat8509
      @andreasthegreat8509 3 года назад

      It probably depends on what look you want. Colours can be changed into anything you want and bokeh is overrated.

  • @normee7249
    @normee7249 3 года назад +4

    There certainly is a point where UWA lenses seem to distort just too much...you even see a slight difference between these 14mm and 15mm (equiv) lenses. Personally a fan of the Laowa 10mm f2...these are tiny gems on a small body 😏

    • @IshmaelHo
      @IshmaelHo 3 года назад

      why cant they just give us autofocus too. zzz

  • @dennisolof9994
    @dennisolof9994 3 года назад +2

    A 1-inch or a m43 sensor size is probably the best compromise for a resonabla portable camera aimed at vlogging and video, with the added ability to get you decent photos. But it is still hard to beat the Sony x3000, DJI Osmo Pocket or GoPro for size, portability and video capability.

  • @andreasthegreat8509
    @andreasthegreat8509 3 года назад +11

    Sony makes your face look like a fire truck! 😂

    • @weisserth
      @weisserth 3 года назад +1

      Sony has shit color science.

  • @TyeMorrisVlog
    @TyeMorrisVlog 3 года назад +2

    9:07 - "Where are we!?"
    THE CINEMA! The cinema is OURS!

  • @othoapproto9603
    @othoapproto9603 3 года назад +2

    You can take a dry subject and make it fun, that's a unique skill

  • @jiffijoff9780
    @jiffijoff9780 3 года назад +1

    Great episode again. It feels like stopping the Olympus down to -0.33 or even -0.66 would have taken out the strong highlights in your face and keep some of the skys blue. Btw, just a thought: what about the Oly 8mm/f1.8 fisheye? Sure, needs defishing in post, but that shouldn't eat up too much processing power while enconding the whole show anyway. What do you think?

  • @MikeMena
    @MikeMena 3 года назад +2

    Dang dude, there is something magical about that lens BUY IT. Perfect background blur too

  • @momchilyordanov8190
    @momchilyordanov8190 3 года назад +8

    Put the smaller lens on the M5III if compact is what you want. It has the same video specs like the M1s

  • @hepgeoff
    @hepgeoff 3 года назад +1

    Nice comparison. There's definitely more stretching in the Sony 14mm lens. They should have gone with at 16mm instead. But the Sony lens has more Toneh inside your room and looks better during this video.

  • @AmadoWildlifeVideos
    @AmadoWildlifeVideos 3 года назад +8

    I thought the one on the left looked better....Olympus wins the gold medal.

  • @dondi2129
    @dondi2129 3 года назад +3

    I’m not gonna lie… I miss my m43 camera. The omd-em5 was my fav.

  • @joevespaziani
    @joevespaziani 3 года назад +1

    For me it’s a toss up between your sentence malfunctions and your moments of Cinima... you’re hands down the champ!

  • @robertwlester
    @robertwlester 3 года назад +7

    I'm considering backtrackin' back to MFT. I have no life ;)

    • @jameshenry6855
      @jameshenry6855 3 года назад +1

      I recently got the GH5 mark II. I already have a BMPCC4K and I'm waiting to see how good the GH6 is. Join the dark side(us hobo videographers 😉)

  • @enlightenedmystery9019
    @enlightenedmystery9019 3 года назад +21

    The Sony X3000 has the perfect wide angle lens

  • @TheSaiyan
    @TheSaiyan 2 года назад +1

    can't believe i googled "toneh" because of you

  • @Herfinnur
    @Herfinnur 3 года назад +2

    Here's where I'm at with Toneh now, as a viewer of vlogs: no Toneh at all is needed, provided that the image is soft and nice. As soon as sharpening is introduced, you need the Toneh to combat the harsh cheapness of the sharpened look. One of the best Vlogging images I've seen is this fun German photographer who attaches a GoPro Hero 7 on his camera so he can show and explain how he decides what to photograph. It's just in the "natural" colour profile, 5000 Kelvin (GoPro auto white balance reportedly takes processing power away from the video decoding), no sharpening and some nice colour grading in post. I'm telling you, that's the way to go. Save the Toneh for the cinematographers

    • @hubey
      @hubey 3 года назад +1

      I like your perspective. What's the channel name of this German photographer?

    • @Herfinnur
      @Herfinnur 3 года назад +1

      @@hubey damn, Now that you asked I forgot and had to search around forever! The name of the channel is really long, but this is the video that made me subscribe to his channel. No GoPro here, but you'll find some elsewhere on his channel ruclips.net/video/LBBe8yIZcak/видео.html
      I actually think his latest video is s good example

    • @hubey
      @hubey 3 года назад

      @@Herfinnur thank you so much for looking it up for me, I acknowledge and appreciate your time and efforts. I watch the linked video and his latest and totally agree with you. Thank you for contributing your perspective, I found it to be really helpful :-)

  • @robertlewisvideo
    @robertlewisvideo 3 года назад

    Awesome Video !!
    I was surprised that 75%-85% of the time the Olympus was way better than the Sony.
    I may have to re-think my Canon and GoPro strategy. Tohna Tohne.
    I'm starting to talk like you. oh no.

  • @_Sisyphus
    @_Sisyphus 3 года назад

    "Nitpicking" A prefect name for your channel.

  • @DanniPortillo
    @DanniPortillo 3 года назад +2

    Since most of us watch content of RUclips in our smartphones and tablets. I don't understand why I should have to pay for a Sony A7SIII if I could get an inexpensive Micro Fourth Thirds camera like the Panasonic Lumix G85 is around $450-$550 and it is still awesome I know it is not the best in autofocus but I am just an enthusiast photographer and videographer.
    If I was a professional photographer then I could go full frame and pay for the best but that is not the case for many of us.

    • @maxsideburn
      @maxsideburn 3 года назад +3

      Professional event photographer here, and my M43 gear gets more use these days than my FF stuff. FF is NOT even remotely a requirement for professional work. Knowledge of photography beats sensor size every single day.

    • @DanniPortillo
      @DanniPortillo 3 года назад

      @@maxsideburn what you said its so important knowledge beats sensor size.

    • @maxsideburn
      @maxsideburn 3 года назад

      @@DanniPortillo yep, but don't worry, some gear snob will "well actually" any minute about how wrong I am...even though I won't respond, because they're wrong 😆

  • @KelvinKamsg
    @KelvinKamsg 3 года назад

    How about try the Samyang/Rokinon 18mm f/2.8 or the 14mm 2.8mm for Sony? Should be smaller eh.
    Oh yeah olympus colour ftw. IMO the m43 narrower dynamic range outdoors isn't too noticeable because of the walk and talk vlog style.

  • @kapilesh14
    @kapilesh14 2 года назад

    the aspherical elements and tele centricity are the reason for that extreme stretching effect on sony. as it is full frame it is more difficult to make the lens telecentric.

  • @donaldobrien9171
    @donaldobrien9171 3 года назад +1

    Try an Olympus wide angle zoom with auto focus

  • @shardanette1
    @shardanette1 3 года назад +3

    Why did you get rid of your g9? What the heck were you thinking?

    • @tobzdaman619
      @tobzdaman619 3 года назад

      for real, he's gonna buy it back 🤣

    • @shardanette1
      @shardanette1 3 года назад +1

      @@tobzdaman619
      Wait till he tries one with the newest firmware!

  • @JoshPostVlogs
    @JoshPostVlogs 3 года назад +1

    Nice. The Olympus has weird yellow tones with the color “science”. (same thing on Panasonic) I’m a Pani boy. I suggest compensating on white balance. You can keep it auto white balance but go to the WB settings and click the color box adjuster thing over to B1 or B2 (this brings in slightly more blue and reduces the awful yellow tones.) This way it will look less like you're in 1970s cigarette-smoke-filled yellow crustiness.

    • @jiffijoff9780
      @jiffijoff9780 3 года назад +1

      and I thought I'm the only one seeing all yellow tones of the planet on Kaseys face... @Kasey: you DO calibrate your monitors with a Spyder or alike, do you? ^^

    • @andersistbesser
      @andersistbesser 3 года назад

      True .its easy to fix if you know it. Its only in video not with natural profile in my gh5 , gh5 also is not so yellow, my g85 is.

  • @-_--le3zk
    @-_--le3zk 3 года назад +3

    Olympus indoors looked like a gopro

  • @MattJacobs
    @MattJacobs 3 года назад +2

    “Tick tick tick tick” - your clock

  • @brucecggallagher1949
    @brucecggallagher1949 3 года назад

    Om1 for me...but you need to go full guerilla and try the Pentax K70 in full HD with the Irix F4

  • @leonarddavis8449
    @leonarddavis8449 3 года назад +2

    That’s brave of Sony to lend you a lens.

  • @hkm5757
    @hkm5757 3 года назад +4

    i wouldnt change my olympus for a freakin ff!

  • @DiscoverThailand
    @DiscoverThailand 3 года назад +1

    We need a 18mm f4 pancake vlogging lens.

  • @AgentStarke
    @AgentStarke 3 года назад

    You need to get ahold of that Laowa 9mm f5.6 for full frame. Now THAT is a wide lens.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 3 года назад +6

    I identified the Sony immediately. For some reason the Olympus looked way overexposed, and soft. Pro Mist filter? [EDIT: Kasey explained at a later point in the video that he shot the Olympus at EV+1.]

    • @snowwalker9999
      @snowwalker9999 3 года назад

      It's probably the lens or the settings not the camera.

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto 3 года назад

      @@snowwalker9999 I wrote that at the beginning of the video Kasey did say later, he shot at EV+1 because of past problems underexposing the Olympus.

    • @snowwalker9999
      @snowwalker9999 3 года назад

      @@JohnDrummondPhoto I’ve used the Olympus and never had that overexposure issue using their lenses of course.

  • @RAILWAY_FILMS
    @RAILWAY_FILMS 3 года назад

    just be as distorted as possible. I have an idea. use editing tricks to make the heavily distorted corner appear IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN. was wondering why you don't stop down to 4 to get the f4 look?

  • @derrickkelly4745
    @derrickkelly4745 3 года назад

    I like the Sony standard profile here

  • @leledreher
    @leledreher 3 года назад +12

    the laowa just looks like a smartphone wide angle lens

    • @robertwlester
      @robertwlester 3 года назад +3

      true. I tried the wide on my smartphone, a lowend piece of poop, it isn't too far off MFT look.

  • @RJPhotographics
    @RJPhotographics 2 года назад

    Sony was better exposed, better contrast IMHO, and looked like too much sharpening on the Oly. The Sony DOF was nice too. Was that 1080p on the Oly?

  • @Lonnie.G
    @Lonnie.G 3 года назад

    "kiss it out the window" lmaoooooo

  • @dubbleA100
    @dubbleA100 3 года назад +1

    Glad u fixed the Olympus, cos it was lookin waaaack

  • @MENMProd
    @MENMProd 3 года назад

    At the begining, I thought it was your phone on the left.. :p lol toneh with weird distortion or wide natural look, that's the question.. ^^

  • @PrainhaFilmes
    @PrainhaFilmes 3 года назад +1

    Elephant man hahahahahahahahaha. You're the best channel !

  • @patrickdonnelly5223
    @patrickdonnelly5223 3 года назад

    The Olympus is overexposing a half to one stop....
    great point about the superiority of the Chinese lens!

  • @varerkars
    @varerkars 3 года назад +9

    the A7S3 looks much better. Dynamic range, Bokeh, exposure.

    • @jameshenry6855
      @jameshenry6855 3 года назад

      Most of the time yes. However I don't like the over sharpened look and in the room there's banding in the shadows (although that could be RUclips)

    • @joesixpack5344
      @joesixpack5344 3 года назад

      What is Bokeh?

  • @vlcheish
    @vlcheish 3 года назад +2

    Could someone explain technically why the 14mm FF lens looks more distorted than the 7.5mm MFT?

    • @zulkiflifauzi
      @zulkiflifauzi 3 года назад +2

      The MFT equivalent to 15mm on FF.

  • @andreasthegreat8509
    @andreasthegreat8509 3 года назад

    What’s the best vlogger editor? I use ShotCut.

  • @slam_down
    @slam_down 9 месяцев назад

    Laowa pops, but the popature (popiness?) of the sony is so much stronger

  • @pavelperina7629
    @pavelperina7629 3 года назад +1

    For me Olympus has so much better colors and contrast. I don't know what's wrong with colors of Sony, I always thought that sony has yellow-brown warm colors, panasonic has teal-green-yellow with natural contrast, fuji has purple-blue-green tint with hard contrast.

  • @JohnTSteinbeck
    @JohnTSteinbeck 3 года назад +5

    Damn the Sony image looks so much better!

  • @mzeevuai
    @mzeevuai 3 года назад

    can you compare dynamic range between the dxomark king nikon d850 vs sony a7siii in video mode.Because dxomark are testing dynamic range in photo mode and at full megapixel which is ithink is a misleading when it comes to video dynamic range in which senser use only 2 megapixel in FHD and 8mp in 4k..know that the number of pixels affects dynamic range directly .

  • @EeyoreDavey
    @EeyoreDavey 3 года назад

    Olympus Log & Sony S-cine both look pink shirt to me compared to flat & Standard which show red. Dynamic range didn't seem to change enough to notice in my simpleton eyes.

  • @Andybaby
    @Andybaby 3 года назад +1

    Your skin looks better on the Olympus.

  • @divisionoflabor3070
    @divisionoflabor3070 3 года назад +1

    MFT, the people's platform.

  • @unclejerry486
    @unclejerry486 3 года назад +1

    Laowa is delivers amazing results considering its size. Maybe they'll make an AF version of it one day. Micro b1tch - I think I now have a new name for it. I would not buy the beast lens - too imperfect for its size.

  • @aengusmacnaughton1375
    @aengusmacnaughton1375 3 года назад

    Olympus skin tones -- Jaundice // Sony skin tones -- Rosacea -- pick your disease!!!

  • @Natahsz
    @Natahsz 5 месяцев назад

    rokinon 14mm 2.8 and sony a7iii or a7sii is better, not much more money is more big, yes. laowa is for apsc same, zv e10...

  • @obmotum
    @obmotum 3 года назад

    Casey, have you tried the Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 7-14mm F2.8 Pro with your Olympus em1 iii?

  • @3dtrip870
    @3dtrip870 3 года назад +2

    I gotta say, the Olympus looks better to me, outside and inside.More tones on the Sony, but stabilization and and colors of Olympus looks better to me.

  • @tbrown2892
    @tbrown2892 3 года назад

    Sony is the more satisfying in my opinion.

  • @Greggie_D
    @Greggie_D 3 года назад

    9-18mm Oly is not a kit lens! And it’s sharp and light. Stop knocking it until you’ve tried it.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  3 года назад

      Here's me knocking it WHILE trying it ruclips.net/video/tM4q4TtWC8E/видео.html

  • @radiozelaza
    @radiozelaza 3 года назад

    I don't notice the jitter of the autofocus critter

  • @JacobPrater
    @JacobPrater 3 года назад +1

    Okay wth, why does olumpus look like it's in soft even light but sony has red and shadows all over your face? Full frame lies?? But then outside full frame looked awesome!!im so confused!?

  • @observing7312
    @observing7312 3 года назад

    8 mm f1.8 Olympus not good enough?

  • @pavelxbushmakin7252
    @pavelxbushmakin7252 3 года назад

    Please test Laowa 9mm f5.6 for FF

  • @abhyudaychattopadhyay8632
    @abhyudaychattopadhyay8632 3 года назад

    brother, there is something i wonder, we look for sharp crisp looks but movies have a lot softness, not ultrasharp crispy stuffs, yet not too shallow depth of field (may be a 3 to 5 around). what's the point here when we want cinematism but too sharp and crisp video at the same time. help me understand may be?

  • @aengusmacnaughton1375
    @aengusmacnaughton1375 3 года назад

    How dare you make fun of Kodak! The Photography Giant from just across Lake Ontario -- in Rochester -- your grandmother dated hot young film developers from Kodak in her youth -- you may even have some Kodak genes in you!!!! Your next vlogging camera will be a Brownie! Hah!!!! :-)

  • @DrunkDelilahBrewery
    @DrunkDelilahBrewery 3 года назад +6

    Olympus kicks the Sony’s Ass on this video, that lens on a Sony is not even useable !!!!

  • @knoptop
    @knoptop 3 года назад

    "I have tonéh" 5:11

  • @chrisj0
    @chrisj0 3 года назад +2

    "I should have brought nd filters... All I SEE IS CHEM TRAILS!!"
    LOL'd to that.

  • @TheHalfmanofOz
    @TheHalfmanofOz Год назад

    Loving the sony, sunburn effect. Tomato juice gang for life. P.s I own an Olympus.

  • @richardcg5500
    @richardcg5500 3 года назад

    The olympus look way better for me and also way cheaper

  • @LonStar3000
    @LonStar3000 3 года назад

    Haven't you learned by now that those lenses are too wide for vlogging????? Dayam man!!!

  • @sergerasklad
    @sergerasklad 3 года назад

    somehow you're right, sony lens looks a bit too unnatural

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed 3 года назад

    I only suffer from Toneh nearsightedness when you are using a wide lens on full frame camera.

  • @Magnesiumbaum
    @Magnesiumbaum 3 года назад

    The Olympus Looks Like a Smartphone and zur FF... Looks great.

  • @patrickdonnelly5223
    @patrickdonnelly5223 3 года назад

    I have to say that Sony messed up with this lens, obviously meant for the realestate crowd... thanks again!

  • @zacredacted2137
    @zacredacted2137 3 года назад

    Olympus’s sharpening is bleck

  • @kris4066
    @kris4066 3 года назад

    lol bro these lenses make you look like a pencilneck 🤣✌🏻

  • @hankroest6836
    @hankroest6836 3 года назад

    F1.8? Why shoot a field of view wider than standard only to turn it all into Toneh? That is SO last year.

  • @MyIronman8
    @MyIronman8 3 года назад

    The left side looks way better

  • @jmac2050
    @jmac2050 3 года назад +4

    Somebody give this guy a sandwich.. help em...

  • @sjm.photos
    @sjm.photos 3 года назад

    higher end kit you need more knowledge to use it fully

  • @J-Young_photography
    @J-Young_photography 4 месяца назад

    15mm will be too close to their zoom 16-35mm

  • @heraldocreative4735
    @heraldocreative4735 3 года назад

    Sony's Catalyst Browse software is pretty damn impressive if you're looking to stabilize your footage after the fact.

  • @magorzata1664
    @magorzata1664 3 года назад

    Piece of advice: Faces and silhouettes never look good on rectilinear lenses below 20mm FF equiv. That is when diagonal AoV significantly exceeeds 90 degrees. Especially in the corners. I have tried it when recording choirs (Faces and silhouettes filling the frame edge to edge). No-go. Even fish-eye looks better. Especially stereographic fisheye that squezee image at the edges less like Samyang/Pergear/7Artisans 7.5mm f/2.8. They have been designed for APS-C sensors where they give 180degree diagonal AoV but come also with M43 mount where they give 132 degrees. As for horizontal AoV they are a bit wider than Olympus 7-14mm but less streched and the edges (of course the image is bent a bit).

  • @UmbertoAmante
    @UmbertoAmante 2 года назад

    You get a thumbs up for a fart joke

  • @danielprose
    @danielprose 3 года назад +1

    A7SII is far better in the first shot. Fish eye is not for me.

  • @CanuckQuest
    @CanuckQuest 3 года назад

    The laowa doesn’t seem to be a 2 aperture. It looks more like 4. Weird. It’s the only problem with the lens

    • @andersistbesser
      @andersistbesser 3 года назад

      Since when is this a problem? To me the laowa looks great

    • @CanuckQuest
      @CanuckQuest 3 года назад

      @@andersistbesser Not a problem per se, but not the bokeh/toneh one would imagine if it is indeed f2, that is all. Seems like it isn't f2 ( but I am sure it is) visually from all the examples I have seen Casey show us.

    • @andersistbesser
      @andersistbesser 3 года назад

      @@CanuckQuest i understand. I like the 2-8-4.0 bokee , i cant stand it if you cant recognize the background anymore. Superwide lenses are not made for bokee anyway

  • @4mb127
    @4mb127 3 года назад

    Now that you made this video full frame camera prices will crash, which will make this video invalid.