For those of you who are lazy to do math and only look at the numbers, I'm gonna give you a few short summaries of her effectiveness so that you just don't go around and spit non-sense everywhere. Alrite, first off, how effective is her buff: Short answer is it's a 82% DPS increase without any other buff. Granted it will diminish when use with a skill that also buffs atk, but due to the nature of her buff relies more on ASPD than atk, it will scale much better than Warfarin's atk buff on a good chunk of sniper classes (with the exception of marksmen and close range snipers). You don't want to use her with operators that already buff their ASPD or reduce atk interval so keep that in mind. 2nd, how wide is the range of her target: Basically, Deadeys snipers (2.7 atk interval) and AoE snipers (2.8) are completely immune to her stun (again without any other aspd buff or atk interval reduction) as their atk interval will range between 1.9-2.0 after the buff so they can use her buff without any drawback. They can use another 10 aspd buff without any problem, but from onward 20 it will start getting affected by stun. Heavyweight snipers (2.4) and Spreadshooter (2.3) will get affected by her stun on a minimal level. Specifically, Heavyweight will be stun for 0.09s and spreadshooter will be stun for 0.16s before they can atk again, resulting in a whopping 1.8% and 3.2% DPS loss respectively. Aftershock snipers (2.1) get affected by the stun quite a bit, but still make good use of her buff. They will get stunned for 0.3 seconds before they can atk again, resulting in 6% dps loss. 3rd, synergy: Literally all AoE snipers especially Fiammatte with S3 completely ignore her the downside, while keeping ALL effectiveness of her buff because her skill is an attack multiplier. With the exception of Lunacub and Fartooth S2, all Deadeyes snipers ignore the stun downside. With the exception of Totter's S2 and Executor S2, all heavyweight and spreadshooter can benefit greatly from her buff. Ch'en is a weird case because aspd buff on ammo type skill technically does nothing, still has good atk buff nonetheless due to her double hit nature. With the exception of Rosmontis S3, two aftershock snipers can make use of the buff. Rosmontis S2 especially makes full use of it without any downside because she increases her atk interval to longer than the stun duration. Schwarz is a bit worse than aftershock snipers because her atk buff is so high that it heavily diminishes the buff, and her atk interval is still short enough for the stun to be annoying. Overall still results in a positive dps increase (~50%) during skill duration but at that point maybe just use another dps instead. Therapist medic is good but not necessary, consider the majority of them only gives status resistance after heal. Don't use Lumen with her tho as Lumen gonna waste all his ammo on those stuns. In conclusion, depend on who your target is, she might be a better buff bot and much easier to use than Aak and Warfarin. Still not very good due to the limited target, main because it's only sniper, but hey she and Mostima alter gonna break the game when the later comes out pffft. Edit: My math was wrong on the initial calculation, her actual buff in DPS is 82% and I have re-confirmed it with a friend who specialize in math. Still most of my point still stand
@@salesberuang4448 No problems, I think you have the right idea but lack of bit of math to convince people. She is just another case of 5* being niche but within her niche she is really good.
At this rate, we'll get a 5 star support that has to clap their hands, spin 360°, sing happy birthday, and align the sun and moon for even a 50% chance to land their buff on a single operator class.
Ah.. I see.. She's really popular among people because her design.. Also, I usualy use BGM from PeriTune... It's free and shoudn't to worried about copyright..
There's something missed here : - Ceylon can give Resistance effect without healing - Lumen can instantly remove the stun, but he need to heal that operator to do it. Thanks for correction.
I understand that spuria is very niche, but ppl looks just angry cuz they can't buff exu, the moment i saw spuria i instantly understood that she was made for ops like rosa, fartooth or shcwartz
But fartooth S3 is not always an use for every stage, I mean for boss killing its pretty decent though but it's an rng stun so you could get unlucky and wasted 10s of skill duration
That is literally all three ops she can buff. That's the point. Three operators that aren't even the topmost of meta, despite when you could just use other buffers.
When the 4* geek arrive, she will be forgotten fast. Like how we forgot windflit. She is very niche and only work on certain archaetype of only one class. The 4* variant probably be increasing ops defense like aak s2.
I saw her art and already decided to raise her. Knowing what her kit does didn't really affect that. Saying that, it's still a damn shame that she works against the archetype of my favorite op being Krooster, funnily enough.
It's not about how many hits are "wasted", unless you can exactly time the stun with attack cooldown. For example, if without buff the operator does 1 dmg per attack, but with buff the operator does 20 dmg per attack, it's definitely worth. In your video, another example is Chen alter hitting 1063x2 per attack with buff vs 679x2 per attack without buff. She lost 1 attack every 3 attacks to the stun, so the net gain is 1063x2x2 - 679x2x3 = 178 on Patriot. The original dmg 679x2x3=4074, so ~4% increase in DPS. Not worth an entire slot in squad plus the timing and player execution, if we only look at this particular example.
Ahh... I see... Thank you I think i missed some parts here. Since i can't predict the stun i also cant calculate it. But we know that Spuria is pretty hard to take on serious battle.
Hummm... If you use chelter as example, ofcourse she enough good to get Spuria's buff. But i think it's bad idea if we use exu or kroos as example... They'll definately waste everything. Their skill duration, buff duration. Of course i know they'll get more damage and aspd but not effective if we comparing them with other sniper who have more slower attack interval.
To be fair, the showcase is also against Patriot. The increase in DPS would probably be more noticeable against a boss with lower Def, like Mephisto or Degenbrecher.
@@sesquipedalian8909 Hmm.... I'm not comparing damage because chance stun make it unpredictable. I just want to see how effective Spuria's buff to slow sniper like deadeye sniper or fastests sniper like marksman.
I feel like they should stop making operators with such big drawbacks to their skills after releasing Chen Alter. I know the stun is to stop Spuria from becoming broken but they did release an operator that deals very wide AOE physical dmg that also reduces movement speed and def.
@Neisse Litterally just use skalter shining or nian at that point since if you are wanting to buff an operator you are pretty much building your team around that buff
@@kyarumomochi5146 noway you waste 2 more slot , wait for scalter to charge up and lower 50% of that sniper hp ,for 10% more atk lul , there are few stage that have 4 range tile right next to each other . In a real game timing is really important( wait for scalter s2) and do you know how much dp is that for a single buff ops. So buffing sniper with aak isn't viable
@@dangng7079 Lmfao give me the number of stages that you cant use skalter s2 and aak combo on because of the timing Please go ahead and give me Heck i challenge you find me FIVE stages that this combo isnt viable and ill accept your take Not only skalter has a summon but also she is the easiest unit to buff people with Your take is so stupid that its hardly arguable against Its like trying to tell someone that fishes cant fly
surprisingly, I think the Pozyomka paired with Spuria actually wasnt waste of Pozyomka's burst, and actually it increased her total DPS you can see that single hit while buffed by spuria is like 550 on patriot, while when skill ends its around 100 this means that even if pozyomka gets stunned, the damage buff is highter than DPS loss. obviously its still RNG based and any form of DPS loss is big loss. maybe its not so bad after all and could find some RNG heavy usage for those who are willing to grind good RNG on their runs
This only holds true for enemies with absurdly high defenses like Patriot which are few and far between in the game right now. Most bosses have not even half the defense that a phase 1 patriot has, so while the absolute damage increase stays the same (+400 on every pozy hit) the relative increase drops significantly (say 1000 to 1400, only 40% increase) to the point that the stun would become a dps loss.
@@koekelbagstrogoff966 well true but on the other hand, you dont need to buff pozy to make her annihilate lower def enemies, so spuria buff is conitional usage either way
Nice question, but Spuria's Buff only work to Sniper... 😅 But If you try it with U-Official or Conviction S2, i think Lee can block that stun... (i'm not trying it yet)
S2 Rosmontis is best choice to pair... Im not realize it before, But Flinger module make rosmontis have great chance to stun her self. Its because she have 3 hits in one attack (4 hits with S2). Very bad, but rosmontis still best to pair with Spuria as long as you activated the skill when using Spuria's buff.
A little bit of feedback Kroos alter’s showcase with purestream was useless because she needs to heal kroos to grant status resistance And yeahhh you can see how she didnt even heal her once until after skill ends
Rosa is best girl so I'll definitely upgrade Spuria for her since Ive had her M6 for quite some time and find myself using S2 more these days go kill stuff with tons of HP
@@keyone8219 As a support, Spuria's skill is more important to M3 than her level. Not only for maximalize her buff, but at M3 her chance stun is reduced very significan (25% chance stun to 20% chance) also stun duration also reduced.
Id imagine her S1 could totally allow for some really funny dps with her passive. Her skill 2 definitely sucks though. I could see maybe my favorite 4* laterano sniper taking advantage of it though.
Man, she is so cool and a lot useful than she seems, damn! Thanks for good point in video. I guess, they wanted to make a sniper buff that would not overpower already existing marksman snipers (who skyrocket on any ATK or scaling buffs). And Spuria's stun is something you would *want* to have. You guys remember how you wait a shot to be made *before* activating a skill on operator, so after skill activation operator would proceed to making next hit without having to wait for attack cooldown to be gone? Like, cutting off animation frames - operator does shot and you press a skill right away, and they shot again immediately. *This is kind of same! * Instead of waiting for long cooldown, operator would be stunned for a lot shorter period of time - so after stun operator would make hit again like usual - but it would happen faster than without a short-stun applied. In addition to your mentioned synergy i want to note that Lumen S1 would fit greatly for these two laterano girls, because not only S1 would be capable of healing both of them while positioned in near of each other (given that both Spuria and Fia tend to lose hp over time), but it's also that *each heal instance* would apply re-writed 4/6 second resistance over and over - on M0-M2 uptime would be 10/11 seconds, and on M3 it's 10/10 (which is 100% if Lumen heals exact time skill is ready, otherwise its 'frostleaf moment'). If resistance would be there in time, then it's even shorter stun working as "attack cooldown" player will have - which is 0.9sec instead of 1.8s. YOU WANT TO PROC THAT STUN, IT'S LIKE KROOS' CRITS! It's also that whoever Spuria is supporting she is still capable of dealing damage herself, so there's a point in healing+resistance her too. She buffs hers ASPD aswell and could assist at staggering enemy from using some ability due to stun chance, and also deal damage too, from both 2-strike and 80%-ignore from that 70% pool She is actually working! Also, Lumen sounds alot like Lemuen, lol :ь You always should think why certain mechanic could be useful. It's just like -50% all-stats debuff (dp cost and redeploy included) in IS3 could be handy for Thermal-X since it doesn't affect amount of Fragile being applied, but helps to cycle it faster despite losing on its explosion damage. Same goes for Kal'tsit since purple debuff doesn't rob Mon3tr of stats, only impacts healing income - but gives you short repositioning opportunity without losing on Mon3tr's dmg on return since not only Kal'tsit redeploys faster but her dp cost is being perceptibly reduced.
The concept of her design is quite simple if we get down to it. dev dont want to give unconditional buff for those whose will abuse it and they still want it to be benifit for those who wont. You might say that hey 30% atk and 40 aspd is not THAT good.. it kinda still really good tho, aak have 50 on each and to use it we need 2 stack or 1 really strong unit to enable that shit on a range op. Sniper also host one one of the best roster to buff pozy, ash, exu, kroos... So stop them get to an unconditional buff like that is quite a reasonable choice. There is another person that do the math on this, its not about what going to waste its about what gained. He calc the damage that chalter gain on the atk buff, but there is still the aspd buff 40 aspd which is 40% more hit we do for those are net neutral, this stunt can also be benificial for unit have long enough interval so for them hitting the stunt is hitting the jack pot and they get more than just 40 aspd. The first op that i think can get great value out of this is aosta, his bind is good if he dont take half a century to bind stuff(1.5 bind for 1.8 cooldown sound pretty nice). So unit that abuse buff will get punish, some get net neutral, unit that need it get net positive and unlike aak she dont need another protector to do so. The reason is justifiable, the turn down is that it work only on sniper. Like fucccccckkkk, what about aoe caster? they would love this if she just have "range unit" requirement.
If it at least gave as good of a buff as Aak's then it'd be fitting of a 5* (given the MASSIVE limitations of using it) but the fact that it's worse and by quite a bit just sucks.
You will have a problem with sustaining hits from Aak at many many different map conditions and exact scenarios of timings given what enemy does at exact second (or enemieS, or where they are, or how many there are and how much it would high up the healing gap you need to have in exact period of time) or what your current placement restricts you from doing, keep that in mind.
@swame You also need to keep in mind how Aak at least works on every OP and not just snipers. Plus, there are ways to circumvent Aak's total damage towards his selected ally through Shining, Skalter, Nian, and/or Silence Alter. Whereas nothing can help against her stun on snipers unless the sniper is damaged with a Therapist OP nearby. I think all that is more than enough of a limitation to have it by about the same as Aak's without it stepping beyond the scope of a 5*.
The fact her numbers are so abysmally low when her skill also comes with such a massive drawback is what makes her in my opinion, the worst operator in the game. Things would be different if she gave a sniper operator +120% Atk and +60 ASPD. But no. +30% Atk and +40 ASPD. Add this on top of the fact that unlike Aak, she cannot heal herself so she literally requires a dedicated healer to stay on the field. It's hilariously bad, and unless they actually double back and buff her, she's going to remain useless.
+120% is too OP for her i think. Even aak only have +50% atk and +50 aspd. She's 5 star, and this is normal if Spuria is weaker than Aak. Without any support, aak also can give his buff to strong melee unit only.
@@salesberuang4448 The 120% was just an example of me expecting a skill that comes with a major drawback to have much higher numbers for balancing. Even if she had the exact same numbers as Aak, she still wouldn't really be worth it because of the self-stun on top of the fact she can only give it to one class. Aak might be difficult to use because of the damage, but the moment you know how to apply the buff it's not even a drawback. This skill would need, realistically, something like +60% Atk and +50 ASPD to be remotely justifiable with this negative. I just don't see how they looked at Spuria and went "this is way too strong, she needs something to balance her out". All they need to do to stop her being this bad is inverse the stun. Don't stun themself, they can now inflict stun with their basic attacks.
@@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 bro did you even watch the video :vv , any ops that have really slow aspd ( which'll also worth more to buff) almost isn't affect by the stun . But still have to agree that buff is kinda bad lol , i think 50% atk buff would make her really good
You know? You're one shining example of how a gamer should never do developers's job of game balancing instead. Do you know how much of a buff 30% atk and 40 aspd buff an operator? I will spare you the math and say that it's 82% of their original damage. And fyi all sniper who has 2.7 atk interval or more completely ignore the stun affect due to the the stun still shorter than their atk interval after buff. Basically this is a free buff to those operators which is infinitely easier to use than Aak and Warfarin. Bruh, Arknights players doing math challenge: impossible. Edit: My math was wrong on the initial calculation, check back with a friends to re-confirm it but most if not all of my point still stand.
If i need additional medic to surpress the downside of buff, id rather shoot my own ops with aak & shining buff alone (works in normal circumtances), or just use skalter & warfarin, same slot usage count but stronger buff & less downside
No, he can’t. He needs to heal someone to remove the stun, and neither his talent nor his skills work on a full health op - you can test with Conviction.
@@salesberuang4448 Ceylon is - Lumen isn’t. How exactly does he give Status resistance without healing? As mentioned before, you can test with Conviction and see neither his talent nor his skills target a full health ally.
@@salesberuang4448 interval attack nya 2,4 second. Pake S3 interval attack +3,1 s. Jadi 5,5 s 🗿, stun 1,8 detik mah gak ngaruh Sama nanya aspd ngaruh ke interval attack nya gimana ?
@@peroasting_amatir yes... Gak ngaruh... yang punya attack interval 2,5 keatas nggak akan kena pengaruh stun Spuria. Kalo soal kalkulasi coba cari "arknights damage formula" ada rumusnya di bagian Damage Per Second. Kalo ditulis disini panjang soalnya. Intinya, kalo ada variabel aspd nanti digabung sama yang diatas. Kalo ada variabel atk interval (s3 typhon) digabung sama yang bawah.
HG Not making a stupidly dumbly bad 5 star challenge: Also even IF HER DEBUFF wasnt there she would still be worser than Aak at this spesific niche and thats just sad
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For those of you who are lazy to do math and only look at the numbers, I'm gonna give you a few short summaries of her effectiveness so that you just don't go around and spit non-sense everywhere.
Alrite, first off, how effective is her buff:
Short answer is it's a 82% DPS increase without any other buff. Granted it will diminish when use with a skill that also buffs atk, but due to the nature of her buff relies more on ASPD than atk, it will scale much better than Warfarin's atk buff on a good chunk of sniper classes (with the exception of marksmen and close range snipers). You don't want to use her with operators that already buff their ASPD or reduce atk interval so keep that in mind.
2nd, how wide is the range of her target:
Basically, Deadeys snipers (2.7 atk interval) and AoE snipers (2.8) are completely immune to her stun (again without any other aspd buff or atk interval reduction) as their atk interval will range between 1.9-2.0 after the buff so they can use her buff without any drawback. They can use another 10 aspd buff without any problem, but from onward 20 it will start getting affected by stun.
Heavyweight snipers (2.4) and Spreadshooter (2.3) will get affected by her stun on a minimal level. Specifically, Heavyweight will be stun for 0.09s and spreadshooter will be stun for 0.16s before they can atk again, resulting in a whopping 1.8% and 3.2% DPS loss respectively.
Aftershock snipers (2.1) get affected by the stun quite a bit, but still make good use of her buff. They will get stunned for 0.3 seconds before they can atk again, resulting in 6% dps loss.
3rd, synergy:
Literally all AoE snipers especially Fiammatte with S3 completely ignore her the downside, while keeping ALL effectiveness of her buff because her skill is an attack multiplier.
With the exception of Lunacub and Fartooth S2, all Deadeyes snipers ignore the stun downside.
With the exception of Totter's S2 and Executor S2, all heavyweight and spreadshooter can benefit greatly from her buff. Ch'en is a weird case because aspd buff on ammo type skill technically does nothing, still has good atk buff nonetheless due to her double hit nature.
With the exception of Rosmontis S3, two aftershock snipers can make use of the buff. Rosmontis S2 especially makes full use of it without any downside because she increases her atk interval to longer than the stun duration.
Schwarz is a bit worse than aftershock snipers because her atk buff is so high that it heavily diminishes the buff, and her atk interval is still short enough for the stun to be annoying. Overall still results in a positive dps increase (~50%) during skill duration but at that point maybe just use another dps instead.
Therapist medic is good but not necessary, consider the majority of them only gives status resistance after heal. Don't use Lumen with her tho as Lumen gonna waste all his ammo on those stuns.
In conclusion, depend on who your target is, she might be a better buff bot and much easier to use than Aak and Warfarin. Still not very good due to the limited target, main because it's only sniper, but hey she and Mostima alter gonna break the game when the later comes out pffft.
Edit: My math was wrong on the initial calculation, her actual buff in DPS is 82% and I have re-confirmed it with a friend who specialize in math. Still most of my point still stand
really thank you for your explanation.. i really appreciate it 🤧
@@salesberuang4448 No problems, I think you have the right idea but lack of bit of math to convince people. She is just another case of 5* being niche but within her niche she is really good.
bros really gone nerd for a character thats still weaker then the previous op
Any clue if Spuria works well on Typhon? Does Spuria's stun affect any of Typhon's volley of hits after she shoots it?
@@Shadow6OO She work well with Typhon S2, but im not trying yet with S3
At this rate, we'll get a 5 star support that has to clap their hands, spin 360°, sing happy birthday, and align the sun and moon for even a 50% chance to land their buff on a single operator class.
Sora, except her buff is actually guaranteed.
@@tortagion1182 well she does have that 50% chance to regen 25% of her sp after a skill ends 🤔🎉
HG should stop making god damn dead on arrival 5 stars already
For gods sake
@@kyarumomochi5146 fr feels like recent 5 stars been so bad and niche at best
@@megugao its been 84 years since cantabile's release 🎉
Imo her E2 smile alone is worth i just love it ❤
On another note, i couldve swore i heard that intro soundtrack somewhere before😏
Ah.. I see..
She's really popular among people because her design..
Also, I usualy use BGM from PeriTune... It's free and shoudn't to worried about copyright..
There's something missed here :
- Ceylon can give Resistance effect without healing
- Lumen can instantly remove the stun, but he need to heal that operator to do it.
Thanks for correction.
I understand that spuria is very niche, but ppl looks just angry cuz they can't buff exu, the moment i saw spuria i instantly understood that she was made for ops like rosa, fartooth or shcwartz
But fartooth S3 is not always an use for every stage, I mean for boss killing its pretty decent though but it's an rng stun so you could get unlucky and wasted 10s of skill duration
@@KerryFoxxoYou wouldn’t waste any skill duration with Fartooth S3 though…
That is literally all three ops she can buff. That's the point. Three operators that aren't even the topmost of meta, despite when you could just use other buffers.
Ch'en alter lmao
Only if she can works with all ranged operator then she'll be very strong with goldenglow
When the 4* geek arrive, she will be forgotten fast. Like how we forgot windflit. She is very niche and only work on certain archaetype of only one class. The 4* variant probably be increasing ops defense like aak s2.
not necessary true. for example, tactician vanguard. and if the 4* geek had a tamer synergy, then the aftereffects might be negligible.
Yeah... Roberta is more usefull than windflit..
who?
@@Bestname_Everfor tacticians it's the first 6 star that got that treatment, blacknight is an exception
@@whymyluckstatsistoolowI’d say she is actually
Pretty sure because of her art alone there will be numbers of people raised her to e2, including me
Most people alr forgot who she was
I saw her art and already decided to raise her. Knowing what her kit does didn't really affect that.
Saying that, it's still a damn shame that she works against the archetype of my favorite op being Krooster, funnily enough.
Look at her head and neck
GRAFTED😂
4:18 Gummy casually stunning Patriot a couple of times XD
Have you ever hear Gummy's Third Punch in her lore? That punch is really and make Dur-nar hurted. It's applied to Gummy's talent.
Prediction on Gummy alter, talent is 3rd hit on same enemy will deal % damage XD
@@Jedex96 That's also good idea. But i hope Leto become playable in the next summer event, i really waiting for this... 🤧
It's not about how many hits are "wasted", unless you can exactly time the stun with attack cooldown.
For example, if without buff the operator does 1 dmg per attack, but with buff the operator does 20 dmg per attack, it's definitely worth.
In your video, another example is Chen alter hitting 1063x2 per attack with buff vs 679x2 per attack without buff.
She lost 1 attack every 3 attacks to the stun, so the net gain is 1063x2x2 - 679x2x3 = 178 on Patriot. The original dmg 679x2x3=4074, so ~4% increase in DPS.
Not worth an entire slot in squad plus the timing and player execution, if we only look at this particular example.
Ahh... I see... Thank you
I think i missed some parts here.
Since i can't predict the stun i also cant calculate it.
But we know that Spuria is pretty hard to take on serious battle.
Hummm... If you use chelter as example, ofcourse she enough good to get Spuria's buff. But i think it's bad idea if we use exu or kroos as example...
They'll definately waste everything. Their skill duration, buff duration.
Of course i know they'll get more damage and aspd but not effective if we comparing them with other sniper who have more slower attack interval.
To be fair, the showcase is also against Patriot. The increase in DPS would probably be more noticeable against a boss with lower Def, like Mephisto or Degenbrecher.
@@sesquipedalian8909 Hmm.... I'm not comparing damage because chance stun make it unpredictable. I just want to see how effective Spuria's buff to slow sniper like deadeye sniper or fastests sniper like marksman.
If stun reset attack interval then does it make them shoot faster or not? I wonder 🤔 on very slow attack interval ops
HG: now we have op that can stun snipers.
I: oh, enemy snipers won't kill us, right?
HG:...
I: RIGHT?
I feel like they should stop making operators with such big drawbacks to their skills after releasing Chen Alter. I know the stun is to stop Spuria from becoming broken but they did release an operator that deals very wide AOE physical dmg that also reduces movement speed and def.
Broken? Dude even without stun her buff is weaker than aak
On wich aspect is she being broken?
@Neisse Litterally just use skalter shining or nian at that point since if you are wanting to buff an operator you are pretty much building your team around that buff
@@kyarumomochi5146 noway you waste 2 more slot , wait for scalter to charge up and lower 50% of that sniper hp ,for 10% more atk lul , there are few stage that have 4 range tile right next to each other . In a real game timing is really important( wait for scalter s2) and do you know how much dp is that for a single buff ops. So buffing sniper with aak isn't viable
@@kyarumomochi5146 and shinning or nian alone isn't enough so you have to bring at least 2
@@dangng7079 Lmfao give me the number of stages that you cant use skalter s2 and aak combo on because of the timing
Please go ahead and give me
Heck i challenge you find me FIVE stages that this combo isnt viable and ill accept your take
Not only skalter has a summon but also she is the easiest unit to buff people with
Your take is so stupid that its hardly arguable against
Its like trying to tell someone that fishes cant fly
surprisingly, I think the Pozyomka paired with Spuria actually wasnt waste of Pozyomka's burst, and actually it increased her total DPS
you can see that single hit while buffed by spuria is like 550 on patriot, while when skill ends its around 100 this means that even if pozyomka gets stunned, the damage buff is highter than DPS loss. obviously its still RNG based and any form of DPS loss is big loss. maybe its not so bad after all and could find some RNG heavy usage for those who are willing to grind good RNG on their runs
This only holds true for enemies with absurdly high defenses like Patriot which are few and far between in the game right now.
Most bosses have not even half the defense that a phase 1 patriot has, so while the absolute damage increase stays the same (+400 on every pozy hit) the relative increase drops significantly (say 1000 to 1400, only 40% increase) to the point that the stun would become a dps loss.
@@koekelbagstrogoff966 well true but on the other hand, you dont need to buff pozy to make her annihilate lower def enemies, so spuria buff is conitional usage either way
Hey how about lee? His 2nd talent make him consume 5 DP if he inflicted Stun/frozen, does he still get stun or he immune to it?
lee is not a sniper so he can't inherit spuria buffs
@@lev5459 oh yes I forgot, it just flew on my head when I use Lee recently
Nice question, but Spuria's Buff only work to Sniper... 😅
But If you try it with U-Official or Conviction S2, i think Lee can block that stun... (i'm not trying it yet)
@@salesberuang4448 Lee can block any stun, example IS2 elemental damage getting full
@@ryoukaipSpurdia only buffs snipers. Lee is a specialist so he can't be buffed by her
Okay but just never get unlucky and never get Stunned smh my head
Thank you so much for this video! I plan to E2 spuria just because of her design, but now i'm even more happy to know she can utilize my rosmontis :D
S2 Rosmontis is best choice to pair...
Im not realize it before, But Flinger module make rosmontis have great chance to stun her self. Its because she have 3 hits in one attack (4 hits with S2). Very bad, but rosmontis still best to pair with Spuria as long as you activated the skill when using Spuria's buff.
still use her to buff my Typhon S3
If only its not just sniper, GG and Lee will love her...
My takeaway is that I can bring her to my no 6* except Schwarz IS3 runs to buff Schwarz.
A little bit of feedback
Kroos alter’s showcase with purestream was useless because she needs to heal kroos to grant status resistance
And yeahhh you can see how she didnt even heal her once until after skill ends
Yes... It's the main problem of Spuria's buff.
Atleast it works to Spuria self. 🤣
Thanks to HP reduction.
The only one that can reduce status effect without healing is ceylon s2 if i remember.
@@shoegix yes... And Lumen.
Lumen can skip the stun duration...
another reason why ceylon is better (not)
@@shoegix Also Nian
I will build her just cause of that smile
so basically if you have Aak the only reason to level her is for the art
Just don't use her any way
If I want to have a 3 man group just like the video shows, I still prefer Warff. and Shamare
When i said i wanted a new geek operator i didn't mean for them to be so useless
Rosa is best girl so I'll definitely upgrade Spuria for her since Ive had her M6 for quite some time and find myself using S2 more these days go kill stuff with tons of HP
Agree with it. 😎 🤝
@@salesberuang4448 ( •̀ ω •́ )✧
Or just use aak on her?
@@kyarumomochi5146 you need another support to buff rosa with aak... Shining or skalter, maybe
@@kyarumomochi5146 You need Shining if you use Aak, else she won't survive
can we use ceylon to cut half the stun time instead since it doesnt require heal ?
Sure, You can use Ceylon and Lumen....
If you have Nian, you also can use her S3 for gain Resistance.
@@salesberuang4448 will m3 her s2 worth it for 1.8 stun time or it doesnt do much ?
@@keyone8219 As a support, Spuria's skill is more important to M3 than her level. Not only for maximalize her buff, but at M3 her chance stun is reduced very significan (25% chance stun to 20% chance) also stun duration also reduced.
Id imagine her S1 could totally allow for some really funny dps with her passive. Her skill 2 definitely sucks though. I could see maybe my favorite 4* laterano sniper taking advantage of it though.
Ok she's clearly meant for someone with an ammo type attack
Man, she is so cool and a lot useful than she seems, damn! Thanks for good point in video.
I guess, they wanted to make a sniper buff that would not overpower already existing marksman snipers (who skyrocket on any ATK or scaling buffs). And Spuria's stun is something you would *want* to have.
You guys remember how you wait a shot to be made *before* activating a skill on operator, so after skill activation operator would proceed to making next hit without having to wait for attack cooldown to be gone? Like, cutting off animation frames - operator does shot and you press a skill right away, and they shot again immediately.
*This is kind of same! * Instead of waiting for long cooldown, operator would be stunned for a lot shorter period of time - so after stun operator would make hit again like usual - but it would happen faster than without a short-stun applied.
In addition to your mentioned synergy i want to note that Lumen S1 would fit greatly for these two laterano girls, because not only S1 would be capable of healing both of them while positioned in near of each other (given that both Spuria and Fia tend to lose hp over time), but it's also that *each heal instance* would apply re-writed 4/6 second resistance over and over - on M0-M2 uptime would be 10/11 seconds, and on M3 it's 10/10 (which is 100% if Lumen heals exact time skill is ready, otherwise its 'frostleaf moment'). If resistance would be there in time, then it's even shorter stun working as "attack cooldown" player will have - which is 0.9sec instead of 1.8s.
YOU WANT TO PROC THAT STUN, IT'S LIKE KROOS' CRITS!
It's also that whoever Spuria is supporting she is still capable of dealing damage herself, so there's a point in healing+resistance her too. She buffs hers ASPD aswell and could assist at staggering enemy from using some ability due to stun chance, and also deal damage too, from both 2-strike and 80%-ignore from that 70% pool
She is actually working!
Also, Lumen sounds alot like Lemuen, lol :ь
You always should think why certain mechanic could be useful. It's just like -50% all-stats debuff (dp cost and redeploy included) in IS3 could be handy for Thermal-X since it doesn't affect amount of Fragile being applied, but helps to cycle it faster despite losing on its explosion damage. Same goes for Kal'tsit since purple debuff doesn't rob Mon3tr of stats, only impacts healing income - but gives you short repositioning opportunity without losing on Mon3tr's dmg on return since not only Kal'tsit redeploys faster but her dp cost is being perceptibly reduced.
I think spuria pair well with goldenglow S3 since she can still attack even if stun, goldenglow with attack speed will boost her damage greatly
Sadly she's only buffing sniper... :')
Whoops, sorry I didn't know that, I didn't read her skills since I know it's not worth it since everyone says how bad she is.
The concept of her design is quite simple if we get down to it.
dev dont want to give unconditional buff for those whose will abuse it and they still want it to be benifit for those who wont.
You might say that hey 30% atk and 40 aspd is not THAT good.. it kinda still really good tho, aak have 50 on each and to use it we need 2 stack or 1 really strong unit to enable that shit on a range op. Sniper also host one one of the best roster to buff pozy, ash, exu, kroos... So stop them get to an unconditional buff like that is quite a reasonable choice.
There is another person that do the math on this, its not about what going to waste its about what gained. He calc the damage that chalter gain on the atk buff, but there is still the aspd buff 40 aspd which is 40% more hit we do for those are net neutral, this stunt can also be benificial for unit have long enough interval so for them hitting the stunt is hitting the jack pot and they get more than just 40 aspd. The first op that i think can get great value out of this is aosta, his bind is good if he dont take half a century to bind stuff(1.5 bind for 1.8 cooldown sound pretty nice).
So unit that abuse buff will get punish, some get net neutral, unit that need it get net positive and unlike aak she dont need another protector to do so.
The reason is justifiable, the turn down is that it work only on sniper. Like fucccccckkkk, what about aoe caster? they would love this if she just have "range unit" requirement.
If it at least gave as good of a buff as Aak's then it'd be fitting of a 5* (given the MASSIVE limitations of using it) but the fact that it's worse and by quite a bit just sucks.
You will have a problem with sustaining hits from Aak at many many different map conditions and exact scenarios of timings given what enemy does at exact second (or enemieS, or where they are, or how many there are and how much it would high up the healing gap you need to have in exact period of time) or what your current placement restricts you from doing, keep that in mind.
@swame You also need to keep in mind how Aak at least works on every OP and not just snipers. Plus, there are ways to circumvent Aak's total damage towards his selected ally through Shining, Skalter, Nian, and/or Silence Alter. Whereas nothing can help against her stun on snipers unless the sniper is damaged with a Therapist OP nearby. I think all that is more than enough of a limitation to have it by about the same as Aak's without it stepping beyond the scope of a 5*.
Who's the op behind Rosa at the end of the video?
She's U-Official
@@salesberuang4448 SHES SO GORGEOUS THANK YOU
@@intruder6628 She's free from April fools...
Dont miss it if you want get her... ^^
The fact her numbers are so abysmally low when her skill also comes with such a massive drawback is what makes her in my opinion, the worst operator in the game. Things would be different if she gave a sniper operator +120% Atk and +60 ASPD. But no. +30% Atk and +40 ASPD.
Add this on top of the fact that unlike Aak, she cannot heal herself so she literally requires a dedicated healer to stay on the field. It's hilariously bad, and unless they actually double back and buff her, she's going to remain useless.
+120% is too OP for her i think. Even aak only have +50% atk and +50 aspd.
She's 5 star, and this is normal if Spuria is weaker than Aak.
Without any support, aak also can give his buff to strong melee unit only.
@@salesberuang4448 The 120% was just an example of me expecting a skill that comes with a major drawback to have much higher numbers for balancing.
Even if she had the exact same numbers as Aak, she still wouldn't really be worth it because of the self-stun on top of the fact she can only give it to one class. Aak might be difficult to use because of the damage, but the moment you know how to apply the buff it's not even a drawback.
This skill would need, realistically, something like +60% Atk and +50 ASPD to be remotely justifiable with this negative.
I just don't see how they looked at Spuria and went "this is way too strong, she needs something to balance her out".
All they need to do to stop her being this bad is inverse the stun. Don't stun themself, they can now inflict stun with their basic attacks.
@@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 bro did you even watch the video :vv , any ops that have really slow aspd ( which'll also worth more to buff) almost isn't affect by the stun . But still have to agree that buff is kinda bad lol , i think 50% atk buff would make her really good
You know? You're one shining example of how a gamer should never do developers's job of game balancing instead. Do you know how much of a buff 30% atk and 40 aspd buff an operator? I will spare you the math and say that it's 82% of their original damage.
And fyi all sniper who has 2.7 atk interval or more completely ignore the stun affect due to the the stun still shorter than their atk interval after buff. Basically this is a free buff to those operators which is infinitely easier to use than Aak and Warfarin. Bruh, Arknights players doing math challenge: impossible.
Edit: My math was wrong on the initial calculation, check back with a friends to re-confirm it but most if not all of my point still stand.
If i need additional medic to surpress the downside of buff, id rather shoot my own ops with aak & shining buff alone (works in normal circumtances), or just use skalter & warfarin, same slot usage count but stronger buff & less downside
Shining needs s3m3 to let u shoot highground ops freely, or for +risk circumstances just use silence alt (but limited to only 2 usage)
Shamare is better to work with sniper 😅
Worth the smile 😌
the niche acrchetype it seems
Hmm, does Spuria have any interaction with Lee's stun neutralization?
Why didn't Rosa get stunned just like the others?
Rosa has long atk interval so the stun doesnt really affect her. Spuria is for slow attack speed sniper.
Eyo that luger 08?
Will post this in page when she out in EN
Few doktahh interested with her design, i think she's good.
Shes like alr forgotten lmao
Well she suppose to buff sniper but notat all sniper need her buff i guess only certain get good condition so niche
Can't Lumen remove the stun? Also mine is already s2m3 just from her e2 art, lmao.
Yes, Lumen can instantly remove the stun.
No, he can’t. He needs to heal someone to remove the stun, and neither his talent nor his skills work on a full health op - you can test with Conviction.
@@slonik0002 Lumen and Ceylon is special. They can give Resistance effect without healing
@@salesberuang4448 Ceylon is - Lumen isn’t. How exactly does he give Status resistance without healing? As mentioned before, you can test with Conviction and see neither his talent nor his skills target a full health ally.
@@slonik0002 Ah, sorry...
I have'nt check it before... I was missed it.
Put lumen to prevent stun
if only she can buff casters too
she'd be op with GG I think
SUPRAAAAA!!!!!
wait who is this op 5:34, I never see her before
Which one??? 🤔
@@salesberuang4448ah sorry, I mean 4:34
the pink one omg she's adorable T~T
@@nacaa3854 Ah, She's Pozyomka...
@@salesberuang4448I thought pozyomka is ranger sniper? it looks like bard supporter
You should add cleton s2 too
For the resittance
Hmmm... Who is cleton? 🤔
Ahh.. Ceylon?
I'm not raising ceylon or lumen... But im pretty sure they can give Resistance without healing..
How about schwars?
Schwarz S3 is good since her attack interval become slow (2.0s)
@@salesberuang4448off topic but whats the name of intro bgm?
Tell me this is April Fool please 😂
No, also April fool's op is Eurika
The fuck were they thinking with this op like why would you ever use her... It's not like her buff is that good too
There was a ton of people love Spuria and want to use her even if she's not good operator...
why are you surprised considering windflit exists:pp
HG trolling Made waifu but uzeless
Dicombo sama S3 Thyphon bagus kali ya. Gak sabar pen gacha
Bisa...
@@salesberuang4448 interval attack nya 2,4 second. Pake S3 interval attack +3,1 s. Jadi 5,5 s 🗿, stun 1,8 detik mah gak ngaruh
Sama nanya aspd ngaruh ke interval attack nya gimana ?
@@peroasting_amatir yes... Gak ngaruh... yang punya attack interval 2,5 keatas nggak akan kena pengaruh stun Spuria.
Kalo soal kalkulasi coba cari "arknights damage formula" ada rumusnya di bagian Damage Per Second. Kalo ditulis disini panjang soalnya.
Intinya, kalo ada variabel aspd nanti digabung sama yang diatas. Kalo ada variabel atk interval (s3 typhon) digabung sama yang bawah.
@@salesberuang4448 nuhun bang
How to lose lumen s3 in fev sec )))😂
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HG Not making a stupidly dumbly bad 5 star challenge:
Also even IF HER DEBUFF wasnt there she would still be worser than Aak at this spesific niche and thats just sad