Pathfinder School Intermediate Pioneer Scout Class, Gear for Advanced Class
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- My thoughts on the Pathfinder School's Intermediate Pioneer Scout Class. This was a 4 day, 3 night survival course designed to prepare someone for a 72-hour survival situation that goes longer than expected.
The class was instructed by Corporal Sean Kelly from Corporal's Corner ( / recall5811 ) and Joshua Enyart, the Gray Bearded Green Beret (www.youtube.co....
It was fantastic experience all around and I learned a ton. It was fun, challenging and absolutely relevant to a survival situation.
I also talk about the gear I will be taking to the Pathfinder School's Advanced Class, the importance of minimizing your kit and a few more strategies for success at the school.
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You have exactly the right mind set and you get the rational behind the training, you will do well
David Canterbury thank you, sir. Looking forward to it.
Great review, Bring This Mindset and you will make it out Alive.
Corporals Corner Thank you, sir. Looking forward to it.
That’s good training, including the threat of rain, very accurate. Looking forward to seeing you there.
Tip..tennis ball halves make excellent tarp protectors when using posts/sticks.
Very good thanks
Willis Blevins thank you, Willis!
Great video. Thanks for posting!
Thanks! It was a great class. Learned a lot there.
Good advice..i just did the Basic class this past weekend...so was wondering about this class..thanks for the review
Bowdier Sackett thank you! congrats on Basic! If you get a chance for Intermediate, it really was a great experience. cheers
Just got back from this course yesterday, patched! Thanks for your advice, was definitely a tough course for sure
Hey, that’s really awesome! Glad to hear it well. I remember just thinking about it over the weeks after the course, processing everything. Good stuff man.
@@EnduranceRoom thank you!
You gat that bro. You will ,,, get.it special forces have nothing on you,,,,,,ROCK ON,,,,your a serviver
You can tell he had the time of this life at the Pathfinder Scout Class, he learn all of very great skills, along with many other great things; I was always taught that practice as much and as often as you can if you want you outdoor/survival skills to be ready when you head in the wilderness.
Ken Barrett ummm not the same Ken Barrett as me .. first of all hello.. I’m 54 and live in Georgia a few miles north of the Florida line .. how about you?
Thank you to have you back .....after that you have to come to Canada to try your skill north bc
Pssshhhh.....Alberta first! Or maybe Im a bit jealous of North BC??
Thank you, Michel! Good to be back. North BC would be a great challenge.
Thanks for the hard work!!!
Philip Truitt thanks for the support, Philip. All the best, Jess
Awesome video. Thanks for the great insight on this coarse. I hope to take one day as well.
James Baldwin thanks James!
Man this was an exciting video. I can feel the anticipation.
Nice vid ! Nice tips on whats expected and Congrats on your patch !
Randy Adamson thanks Randy! Appreciate it sir
Well said brother!
C Henry thanks brother. cheers
Just got my patch at the basic class last week. Signed up for the intermediate class in June.
I appreciate you making this video! I now have an idea of what to expect.
I’m getting pretty good with a bow drill and made a goal to start 1 bow drill fire a week until the class.
Any other advice you may have that you didn’t share in the video?
Thanks brother
Pooter Stomper Congratulations! Just keep doing what you are doing. Stay up on basics, make a bucksaw, get used to compass and basic land navigation.
Endurance Room awesome man thank you.
I’ll watch a few videos on the buck saw and get started on it right away! Thanks again
Sounds like you got through Jess...well done!...woods
Thanks Woods! It was a good one.
Outstanding brother! I always heard that it’s a great experience, and you learn things you thought you already knew. Excellent, looking forward to hearing about your next experience there. I’d love to go myself.
SurvivorMetalMan thanks brother. You would really enjoy it. Definitely improved my skills there in a short time. Well worth the trip.
Cool review. Thanks for the information.
thanks!
Awesome! I know this was a year ago but if anything the Pathfinder school is even more stacked with instructor talent now vs then! I'd love to study under those fellas! Especially primitive fire with Matt Mercer or Mr Kelly! Land nav would also be great to study in greater depth.
They have a correspondence course on dvd that is really good. I think its like $50. Well worth it. I made a land nav/map making video last year that might be helpful. Its not too hard, just need to get the woods time with the compass and practice making your map. I outlined the steps in the video. I think it is called Make Your Own Map
Right on, I really enjoyed the video, you seem very excited about the classes. I hope that you DO get the coveted Advance Patch! Keep it up, and Good luck, I think you can do it!.
SuperIain13 Thanks brother! Much appreciated.
Kudos and congrats!
Good luck at the advanced class.
Mars PR thanks! appreciate it!
Really great Channel ! Awesome gear selection
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Thanks a ton!
I just signed up for the Intermediate Class next April. I completed Basic already. Can you answer a couple of gear questions I have about the Intermediate class gear list: 1. I am reading the cutting tools to include both a carbon steel knife AND an axe, correct? Was your hatchet approved? I notice a saw is on the Basic and Advanced class gear list, but not the Intermediate. Is that correct? Seems odd. 2. For cover, it says, “1 queen wool blanket, and 1 twin wool blanket, or 3 twin size and a 6-8’ natural material tarp. Should it read, “A 6-8’ tarp; in addition, either 1 queen plus 1 twin wool blanket, or 3 twin blankets? Was your queen blanket alone sufficient? And was your poly tarp approved/allowed? Lastly, What did you use for your rope/tubular webbing? Thanks!
DannyH Sure thing. Make sure to sign up to the Pathfinder Learning Center on FB. They do last minute updates there including gear. They try and mix it up each class. We had the option of either a queen or 2 military wool blankets. I used a queen for intermediate and for the advanced class I used a military blanket with a plash palatka. You want a good knife and skills to carve with it. A small light sharp hatchet (not an axe). I think we used a 21” Bahco dry wood blade for intermediate and a 24” for advanced. Get good at making a bucksaw. I made something too large and heavy. Make it small and light, but solid. Dan Wowak has a really good design. The strapping was used for shelter building. They show a bunch of different stuff. Make sure you have what they ask gear wise, a good poncho, wool socks, good boots, and keep it as light as you can. Big packs hurt a lot of guys. Get used to rucking, you have to do a lot of it and it gets heavier each day. Mindset is key.
ATB
Jess
Let me know how it goes!
DannyH The poly tarp was ok for the advanced class. Most used a 6x8 canvas tarp from tractor supply or some place similar. Those have a nasty water proofing on them, gets on your skin and gear. You could make something nicer out of canvas drop cloth and water proof with boiled linseed oil
@@EnduranceRoom Thanks for the speedy reply! I carve all the time, so I think I’ll be ok there. I’ll have to get a queen blanket. All of mine are twin military type. Good advice on the buck saw practice. During my Basic, it literally rained the whole time. One of my notes was taller boots! Definitely going to keep the pack light. Ounces=pounds and pounds=pain. I think I will make my own tarp. The canvas ones I see for sale are super heavy and smelly.
@@EnduranceRoom Tonight I made my first ever buck saw using the Coalcracker design. I got a dead standing stick that came down off of one of my maples. To make it, I only used the saw blade, my knife and #36 bankline. It turned out great! It is a sturdy and easy to build design. Thanks for the help!
@@EnduranceRoom Yeah, the canvas one at our Menards store weighs 4 pounds, 12.8 ounces. I made a 6’x9’ sil poly tarp for a minimalist hammock camping tarp that only weighs 12.4 ounces and would love to take that instead. I know the gear list says “natural material 6x8 tarp”, but is there skills deliverable reason not to take my tarp instead and save the 4 pounds?
Gratz on the class brother and great review as well! You seem humble for a guy that bends horseshoes man! Subed as well.
Jay Boothe Thanks man! Appreciate it
Have you seen the channel Justin Barbour: 68 day trip across Newfoundland. Fantastic series to compare what you need in a pack for advanced class. If you look at what he took, and subtracted what he had for a raft and set-up, stuff for the dog, camera gear, what is left is very minimal.
Tramontane Awesome! Thanks. I will check it out. I just pulled the divider from the East German grenade pouch. Was going to run it on my hip for a compass, beads, notebook, and a small sandbag for tinder
Going to the intermediate class in April. I'm pretty excited, but definitely need to work on bowdrill before I go. How well did you have bowdrill down before you went? Thanks man!
Nice! Thats awesome man. I didn’t have my bowdrill together and struggled with it. They walk you through it pretty thoroughly. You got plenty of time to practice though. Get good at natural materials for a bird’s nest. Tulip poplar is the stuff. The bow only needs to be about thumb size in diameter and about as long as your elbow to finger tips. The fire board needs to be dry and of reasonably soft wood (tulip poplar). The bearing block can be made out of green wood, fat wood or the same wood as the fire board. Smooth and steady using the whole length of the bow. Corp has some good videos going over it. Any questions, happy to help. Cheers
@Endurance Room Bushcraft and Survival Thanks for all the info brother. Great advice, I appreciate it! 👍🙏
Great man! Looking forward to hearing about Advanced Class as well! Good luck on getting the patch!
Thanks! Appreciate it!
Sounds like you busted your hump a bit. Im planning a three day remote trip into the bush with some friends and seriously considering just packing light in my old web gear to see if I still can.
Nice! That sounds like a blast! Let me know how it goes.
@@EnduranceRoom it isnt until June but I will let you know for sure!
Well your mind set and attitude are good so I see you making it.
Good to see you back bro.. I heard you went straight up beast mode!!
Thanks bro, it was really great training.
this is awesome i was waiting to hear how it went, glad u had a good time brother!
Thanks! It was pretty epic.
Jess, Thanks for your videos. I'm headed to the intermediate class in August 2022. I plan on using the medium alice pack. I am adding weight for ruck training. I am considering not using the frame for the actual class. The blanket and tarp in the pack, almost everything else in a haversack. What are your thoughts...frame or no frame? Thanks, Dan
Thats awesome Dan! The Medium should be great with or without the frame. I would suggest a dump pouch on your belt for collecting tinder. They will probably let you take it. The haversack kind of gets in the way and you definitely want to stream line and minimize as much as possible. They had us make pack frames pretty early on, so you may or may not be using the pack too long. Personally, I would do the frame, stock straps and belt with tarp rolled up on the bottom, inside of the pack blanket, clothes, bushpot with food (i used pemican (fat and protein)), water bottle and cup on outside pocket, other Cs in the other pockets. I wrapped my bucksaw blade up in my cotton cloth. Saw was one of the first projects, so be solid there, and work on the bowdrill. Its a great class. Let me know how it goes or if you have any questions leading up. Cheers
You give sound advice.
Thank you, sir.
Great job ~ thanks for posting!
thanks!
Awesome job Jess. Congratulations on the patch I'm sure you wiwill rock the advanced as well. Have you turned in 2 PP for the 1 8x10 tarp? Lighter with better cover?
Nate
Thanks Nate! I haven't turned in the PP. Trying to keep my gear inline with the class list. My shelter was off last time and it effected the options they were trying to show us for shelter setups.
How was it off?Nate
Journeyman 71 I had brought a shelter half and a plash palakta for shelter options. The requested gear list for a 6x8 canvas tarp. It limited the different shelter options they had planned to show us by not having the same gear.
This is a awesome accomplishment brother! Did ya do the advanced class yet?
Is the Pioneer Scout courses different than the basic, intermediate, and advanced courses?
It is the intermediate course. The advanced course is more or less the material covered at the intermediate, but instead of them showing you, you are showing them. Well worth the trip if you can line it up.
What did you keep in your haversack
Bowdier Sackett used it for my food
Did you have to ditch your pack and construct a pack frame for a tarp/blanket roll for the course? Were garbage bags used for collecting resources? Thanks!
Base12 Productions Yes and yes! It was a great experience. Highly recommended
@@EnduranceRoom Thank you for the response!
Subbed. So you successfully took Scout/Intermediate without basic? I'm considering that and would like your opinion.
I think they changed the policy after I went. They want everyone on the same page. It is honestly a good thing. They cover a lot of good stuff in all their classes and basic is the foundation of it all. I would say it is 80% of what we do in the woods. Intermediate introduces a bit more complex material, and then advanced takes it all and shifts most of the focus onto practical application, where they aren’t showing you as much as you are out doing. It is a great experience to have, as they will press you harder than you would on yourself. It really teaches you how much more you are capable of.
Why do you have to bring so much gear to a survival class.? Cody lundin school you bring minimal gear. If not any gear. As far as making it out alive as Kelly says no harder than boot camp
The gear is minimal and selected for educational value. If you want primitive, it’s a different class, but same basics still apply.
Are you rucking your shelter system each day as well or is that set up set up day one at base camp and it remains there when you go out each day?
Moose you take all your gear with you, each time you go out. the pack gets heavier throughout the course as you make new deliverables each day
@@EnduranceRoom Good to know, thanks
Did you guys carry any food?
It was pretty slim. We were told to pack food for 4 days, and then it got stripped down to half rations. It wasn’t bad. The advanced class was no food except whatever we could forage. They kept us pretty busy though, to really even worry about eating. They used a lot of psychological pressure to stress people over the course to simulate the effects of real world stressors. It was an interesting experience. Lot of fun, but at the time, it had some intensity to it.
@@EnduranceRoom That sounds really testing.
I'd love to do a course like that but I am like a humming bird & need to eat often.
I wish Dave & the team would oneday come to the UK to teach? The wilderness gathering here is a great little gig for like minded bushcrafters to meet & practice skills.
Looking forward to your next video take care.