Loop has some nice capabilities, but the current iteration is missing too many of the features present in OneNote. The content placement flexibility especially the freehand/structured diagramming functionality of OneNote is far superior. Without that many of us with hierarchically-structured interdependent diagrams in OneNote would need a free Visio plug-in for Loop or to migrate to third-party alternative if Loop is OneNote’s successor.
We need a video on permissions and sharing. Loop seems like the kind of thing that would be crazy easy to share.. I mean that's the whole point of a component, but I've found that the ownership and permissions are solely run through OneDrive (and buried in the Meetings and Teams Chat Files folders). If I copy a component and plunk it elsewhere, it is basically just like copying a link. It doesn't give anyone access. To do that I need to go to OneDrive and manage the access of that file (or share from OneDrive). Additionally, from the Loop app, you can only share a workspace. For pages, you have to share from the location of the page which is in your M365 portal (not the Loop app, or OneDrive). It's hella confusing. On the one hand, I'm happy about the fact that copying a component link doesn't give access, but the way it's been handled is ultra confusing.
I agree it’s confusing! It also depends whether you start from loop or word or one note etc. wish it was less confusing. I assume that they will standardise this a bit more as the app gets more mature
I think OneNote is better at actual documents and knowledge hub wiki like stuff given its history Loop is more for tight collaboration with others, like project management, live pages that need to change very often
I don’t think so, it’s limited what you can do in loops tables for now
9 месяцев назад
Loop in onenote is not available but loop is forced in meetings notes instead of onenote. The present is confusing for users. You are showing the future which is probably powerful but the present is awful.
Thanks for the comment, loop components are in one note online today & on one note desktop only for the insider version today, I say that quite clearly in the video but I added it to the video description after you pointed it out to make it clearer
9 месяцев назад
@@learnspreadsheets I'm using OneNote Online and there is no way to embed a loop component. In can just add the fallback link (which open the content in another tab). Probably you use a preversion or Microsoft dont let available this feature everywhere in same time ... and let us in this incomplete user experience
"OneNote" fails miserably to sync data. I've lost count of how many times I've lost an important document that I kept in it. Besides, he reads a lot and is bad at organizing things. I'm preferring to write things down in simple notebooks rather than OneNote. A feather...
Great video. Just enough demonstration to make your points without getting bogged down.
Thanks for the feedback, glad you appreciate my style!
Loop has some nice capabilities, but the current iteration is missing too many of the features present in OneNote. The content placement flexibility especially the freehand/structured diagramming functionality of OneNote is far superior. Without that many of us with hierarchically-structured interdependent diagrams in OneNote would need a free Visio plug-in for Loop or to migrate to third-party alternative if Loop is OneNote’s successor.
Completely agree with you! I’ll continue using one note everyday for a long while I think!
Would be great if Ms added the possibility to import a OneNote Workbook in Loop to facilitate the switch
Yes! That could be cool but I’d still miss so many one note features
OneNote is simple and efficient. Loop can be used as OneNote but in my job that would be so time consuming it is prohibitive!
I agree! I love one note!
A great video on the benefits of both onenote and loop
That’s a very kind comment, thanks!
We need a video on permissions and sharing. Loop seems like the kind of thing that would be crazy easy to share.. I mean that's the whole point of a component, but I've found that the ownership and permissions are solely run through OneDrive (and buried in the Meetings and Teams Chat Files folders). If I copy a component and plunk it elsewhere, it is basically just like copying a link. It doesn't give anyone access. To do that I need to go to OneDrive and manage the access of that file (or share from OneDrive).
Additionally, from the Loop app, you can only share a workspace. For pages, you have to share from the location of the page which is in your M365 portal (not the Loop app, or OneDrive).
It's hella confusing.
On the one hand, I'm happy about the fact that copying a component link doesn't give access, but the way it's been handled is ultra confusing.
I agree it’s confusing! It also depends whether you start from loop or word or one note etc. wish it was less confusing. I assume that they will standardise this a bit more as the app gets more mature
I think OneNote is better at actual documents and knowledge hub wiki like stuff given its history
Loop is more for tight collaboration with others, like project management, live pages that need to change very often
Yes this is a good comparison, both have their place, many have pitched the idea that one note is being replaced but I disagree!
How can I do import whiteboard drawings in loop?
Im sorry but im not a big user of white board so im not sure
Can you merge cells in one note loop?
I don’t think so, it’s limited what you can do in loops tables for now
Loop in onenote is not available but loop is forced in meetings notes instead of onenote.
The present is confusing for users.
You are showing the future which is probably powerful but the present is awful.
Thanks for the comment, loop components are in one note online today & on one note desktop only for the insider version today, I say that quite clearly in the video but I added it to the video description after you pointed it out to make it clearer
@@learnspreadsheets I'm using OneNote Online and there is no way to embed a loop component. In can just add the fallback link (which open the content in another tab).
Probably you use a preversion or Microsoft dont let available this feature everywhere in same time ... and let us in this incomplete user experience
"OneNote" fails miserably to sync data. I've lost count of how many times I've lost an important document that I kept in it. Besides, he reads a lot and is bad at organizing things. I'm preferring to write things down in simple notebooks rather than OneNote. A feather...
Sorry to hear I personally haven’t found it fails