Thank you for sharing this insightful information. I have given to ODB in the past, but I will cease my donations. However I will continue to use their daily devotional. It has been a true blessing for me and my family. I don't read any of the antidotes or stories I simply read the scripture verse and the application message to my children at dinnertime as it's been an easy way to facilitate family devotions at the dinner table. I have four children under the age of five so it's nice to have a bite-size Bible verse and application for their age at this season of life
12:40 if the president of ODB puts the brand new slogan "diversity is to be celebrated" in the same sentence with the infallibility of the Bible and salvation through Christ alone that makes it clear he is intensely woke
@@flapjackson7764 The Independent Fundamental Baptists have their own range of corruption issues: pride, covering up of abuse, worshiping leaders, unbiblical over-glorification of KJV-only, overly critical of non-IFB churches, etc.
@Adam-yf3ss "What major Christian organization older than 50 years is NOT compromised? " Pacific Garden Mission (Unshackled) was still sound, last I knew.
Just listening to these people talk, the self pity and narcissism just drips from their voices. They will forever be trapped in this "worldly sorrow" by always blaming everyone else for their problems.
Ligonier Ministries has a magazine called Tabletalk that has a daily devotional as well as a few articles. It is well worth the subscription of 25 dollars. I used to give away Our Daily Bread and RBC (Radio Bible Class) booklets at the jail that I ministered at. I wouldn't give them to inmates nowadays. I recommend Tabletalk for those who want a brief, meaningful devotional.
The other podcast that talked about this was the Center for Biblical Unity. They were terrific in fairly applying some pressure. ODB has to choose between the bad earthly optics of dumping Rasool Berry or the eternal consequences of tolerating and enabling false teaching.
Yes - I knew ODB was compromised. It has toned down (some) since I sent a reply to a survey they sent me. I was truthful but didn't back down. Since then I haven't given any $ to them. I used to support the ministry greatly and willingly shared their monthly devotional booklet. I'm very sad that this social justice issue has infected so many ministries!
I use to read and listen to Our Daily Bread for many years. I stopped in 2020 because my comments were being deleted. Each day at the end of their devotional you could comment. I was trying to correct someone because they said they were like little gods. The person and their friends would attack me verbally in comments. No one from daily bread said anything until I got a warning saying I was disrespectful. So of course they took over the comment section every day.
I am a black lady who used to listen to RBC every morning. It troubles me that RBC is not teaching the truth of the Bible. Leave ethnicity out of your outreach instead talk about the Bible. Theological truth is paramount to anything else.
All this stuff is so beta too. I mean, I deal with chronic medical issues but I don't make a victim of myself to others, despite it being WAY more difficult to deal with than these supposed traumas. It's gross, what they're doing. It's poison.
This is so sad. I think Dr. Dobson and his unbiblical emphasis on self esteem has laid the groundwork for this foolishness. It's all about self image..and a constantly messaged ego. That is most certainly not the gospel of the kingdom. Anything but.
It used to be a fine thing. I subscribed in the monthly pamphlet days, and would devour each one as soon as it arrived. I'm sad about this. It's painful to think how Richard DeHaan, Herb vander Lugt, and the other noble people who made that ministry what it was would react to this. One thing we know is that however the Devil mutilates it eventually, no good work done for the glory of God was ever wasted.
The woman who had a long term affair with her therapist, then convinced her husband she is the victim is guilty of manipulating and abusing her husband. And that husband needs to man up!
The more mainline Christian denominations and parachurch ministries become, they always seem to drop the doctrine of repentance because it's not very seeker friendly. Should we be surprised when they refuse to repent and instead double down on their stance even in the midst of compromise. The lack of accountability and confession is very consistent with the safe and world-friendly ministry they have become. Also, repenting and course correcting would mean a drop in market share; heaven forbid that any of these ministries would have to carry their cross on this side of glory.
Last fall! They've been doing this for quite awhile. And, there's no way to contact the guy who runs it, can't find his email. I'm really fed up with them. I noticed their changing especially after the Floyd fiasco! By the way I've never seen a colorless person; don't we all have some color in us?
Good point! We're all people of color. Also, I do think it's funny how they keep changing the phrases. You never hear "colored" anymore, but "people of color" is okay? 😊
I used to read ODB devotional but a after awhile wanted more depth so started reading thru the Bible in a year. I think I stopped before it got woke. I was very surprised to hear this. It’s terrible 😞
Due to your previous podcast, and checking out their website, I've stopped contributing to Our Daily Bread. My wife and I will continue to use their devotionals.
They have a very low of Scripture, if they even read it, instead they have placed a higher view on human wisdom. Scripture isn't sufficient in their view. "But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering without hypocrisy. " James 3:17
Wow. This is not even subtle. The lovers of excuses for their own behavior instead of repentance and change, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Those who acquiesce to the lie will accompany them.
The poor at the time of Christ died of hunger and those so called poor in America of obesity and drug abuse. The poor in America should be sent to the foelds to gather their food as in the timevof Christ.
Hello Jon, I have greatly benefited from your podcast and view on several issues and have some questions to ask you, i figured youtube comments isn't the best place. What is the best way to ask you some longer questions if you do that with listeners?
This concerns me. Is this the company that sends out the Little devotional books? My dad reads these, but is not for any of this Marxist racial hatred indoctrination.
What's his point about Lady In Red? It's a song written & performed by a white man about his wife, who is also white? Or is THAT the problem? Is it because they dared play a song that WASN'T about a black woman? Genuine question.
I don’t like BLM or the whole CRT think both are horrific. I’m from Alabama and was born and raised here, I feel that we should look at what a black person feels when they send their child to a school named after a man who lead the military of the south where we can say what we want but the south was defending slavery. I’ve read the succession papers of the states that seceded and its main issue is slavery. The Southern Confederate Constitution would have made it to where slavery could never be abolished. I’m not woke I felt this way many many years ago. I believe Floyd died Due to his drug use and not the officer’s fault.
I understand what you're saying. But even if the South had won the Civil War, slavery would have eventually ended, and still within the 19th century. It just wasn't sustainable.
Can we just be honest and admit all this is just whining? It’s all so fatiguing and obnoxious. Hardly anything is racist against minorities (in fact it’s usually the exact opposite), this woman committed adultery against her husband and he should divorce her, and Jamar is a whiny little baby who is looking for excuses for why he hasn’t achieved more… also he probably knew the lyrics to the rap song. Are we done here?
This generational trauma is ridiculous and absurd. My great-great grandfather came home from the Civil War with a drinking problem. Should I be traumatized by that?! No, I think not.
Jon’s family did not, but Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon, Daniel, and virtually every prominent godly man in OT scriptures along with Philemon, did. Maybe you’ve got a different opinion of slavery than God has.
@matthewdyer2926 Are you able to speak for Jon's family? Sorry, I not trying to be rude but I would like to know if you're a family or just a concerned citizen speaking without knowledge. And you're right, I may have a different opinion of slavery than that of the Bible but I hope not.
Your first example is a huge mistake on your part. You have missed an important doctrinal point, because the person speaking is EXACTLY correct. Yes, Jesus living in Nazareth was VERY MUCH part of His identification with the poor and downtrodden. The fact that His message is universal does not change the fact that His condescension was even to the point of being one of the poor, a man from the wrong side of the tracks. "Can any good thing come out of Nazareth?". And how did he assure John the Baptist? "To the poor the gospel is preached." And again, ""Brothers, consider your calling: Not many are wise from a human perspective, not many powerful, not many of noble birth. Instead, God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world - what is viewed as nothing - to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, so that no one can boast in His presence. " (1Cor 1:26-29, HCSB) But that second example is really all that is needed to make your point. That was pure wokeism. It's revolting. Another once solid ministry has gone down the tubes!
@@tnowandthen-t8t Eh, I think my first point is sound. None of those verses show Jesus was trying to identify with the materially poor. That’s a Liberation theology reading. Being poor and identifying with the poor because poverty is somehow noble are two different things.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast None of which verses? I'm not clear on what you are saying there. As to the rest, it is all over the New Testament, and many a well-respected Bible teacher has preached on it, going back for hundreds of years. Methinks you have a 'baby and bathwater' problem on this one. To be clear, I am NOT defending Our Daily Bread in the least. I just think you are off target on this one example. While the person speaking may well be woke himself, and may have woke motives in pointing this out, he's not wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
@@randomvintagefilm273 Why? The religion is universalist already and requires its followers to hand over their possessions to anyone that asks. Its basically modern day progressivism as is why is anyone still quibbling over whether one can be right wing or non woke and be Christian. Clearly the wokes are following the scripture the best.
Yes, an organization dedicated to feeding people celebrates different kinds of people. You're surprised, disappointed? An organization run in the name of a religion that seeks to convert people of every tribe and language and people and nation thinks diversity is to be celebrated. Compromised by what, exactly? If you want a more exclusive religion, you can just join one. Start one, even.
@@ygonzalez4134 Yes, that's why you should join another religion if the whole love your neighbor as yourself thing is too hard. Find an easier master. Because Christianity does require you to follow two commandments. You must love the lord God with all your heart, and equally you must love your neighbor as yourself. These two things are of equal importance. The two masters quote, Jesus was specifically talking about those who prioritized the accumulation of money over what their religions asks of them. But hey, if being a Christian is too hard, I don't know, Hinduism maybe? Kemetism? Voudon? You figure that out.
@@insupportofjunhadoRather presumptuous to “read” why Jesus said something. However, reading the entire New Testament in context to itself, the world’s understanding of love is different from Christianity’s.
@ Is Christianity's understanding of context also different than the world's. Jesus consistently treats the foreigner as well as the Jew in the New Testament. Even when he suggest to a foreign woman that he should not, he immediately rewards and praises her for her faith when she suggests otherwise, giving her more than she asked for. A slave cannot serve more than two masters is immediately followed by Jesus saying you cannot love both God and Money. That the love of money is the source of all kinds of evil. But sure, the organization dedicated to feeding hungry people is compromised because they're dedicated to feeding all kinds of hungry people. The Christian organization is compromised because they're trying to appeal to a diverse range of people, not unlike Jesus, who catered to Romans, Samarians, Jews, criminals, foreigners, the diseased, the crippled and expressed a desire to draw the whole world unto himself. I'm not advocating for Christianity here, but this line of thinking I'm encountering here is akin to saying the police the governor is compromised because he is expressing a desire to better appeal to the people he governs. Does the governor only serve the rich, or good looking, or the tall or the young? Are dairy farmers compromised when they decide to appeal to potential customers who have lost their ability to digest lactose?
Took about 15 minutes to say anything. It got pretty smug im afraid. When you are looking for the boogieman guess what you will find. Why not celebrate the shades of the whole gospel....since Christ is over all and through all and in us all(believers), then why not in social justice issues too? Nothing wrong with pointing it out as part of a whole. Minimizing people and what they are going through isn't love. So many strawman arguments. Cant believe some of these presenters who "take no pleasure in presenting stuff like this" get such unchallenged respect.
Poem Who Will Speak For God Many cower, many fear, while Marxist men applaud, forsaking truths once claimed so dear, but who will speak for God? Bigot, racist, homophobe, names weaponized and broad, spineless men by these implode but who will speak for God? BLM, Antifa fools working mischief in their pod, propaganda from state run schools, but who will speak for God? Christians preaching social justice? This gospel is a fraud, away from scripture a pastor does this, but who will speak for God? Parents bow before their children and spare the spanking rod, behold them now a hoard of villains, but who will speak for God? They scavenge their morals from sea bottom analogous to cod, their wrong is right their spring is autumn, but who will speak for God? The shameful, yelling “shame on you” the paragon of odd, hypocrisy in all they do, but who will speak for God? “Marginalized defenders”?? blasphemous earthen clod, they think there'r many genders, but who will speak for God? Trusted churchman compromising with theology so flawed, heightened itching ears, surprising? but who will speak for God? Come now saints undaunted, budge not upon this sod, speak His word by them unwanted, and you shall speak for God! Scott Burn
@@jacklawsen6390 I don't think so. I assume you haven't talked to any of them? I assume you say this based off of a lot of talk from the presenter and a few randomly selected clips of video taken out of a broader discussion? I assume you are looking for critical race theory? I assume when the presenter basically says, "I'm not following the Bible by going to the person personally, I'm making myself a god and doing it my way,' that that is ok? I assume that sniping at our brothers and sisters is ok? I assume that this one sided presentation will affirm what most people here already believe. I believe that talking about the poor and oppressed are one part of Christianity. One. Part. Pure religion as laid out in The Word.
@@colinplank Yes. But I am being clear that I am assuming. But I don't see any actual talking points from people replying. Just making statements. Further entrenching in what you want to believe. Why is being negative not being charitable? Jesus loved more than anyone and called the Pharisees a brood of vipers.
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Thank you for sharing this insightful information. I have given to ODB in the past, but I will cease my donations. However I will continue to use their daily devotional. It has been a true blessing for me and my family. I don't read any of the antidotes or stories I simply read the scripture verse and the application message to my children at dinnertime as it's been an easy way to facilitate family devotions at the dinner table. I have four children under the age of five so it's nice to have a bite-size Bible verse and application for their age at this season of life
@@jordan5376 Have you ever heard of the Daily Office?
I have not, I’ll check it out:)
12:40 if the president of ODB puts the brand new slogan "diversity is to be celebrated" in the same sentence with the infallibility of the Bible and salvation through Christ alone that makes it clear he is intensely woke
What major Christian organization older than 50 years is NOT compromised?
@@Adam-yf3ss the missions organization ABWE seems to know what time it is and I haven't seen any compromise.
Sword of the Lord?
@@flapjackson7764 The Independent Fundamental Baptists have their own range of corruption issues: pride, covering up of abuse, worshiping leaders, unbiblical over-glorification of KJV-only, overly critical of non-IFB churches, etc.
@Adam-yf3ss "What major Christian organization older than 50 years is NOT compromised? "
Pacific Garden Mission (Unshackled) was still sound, last I knew.
@ cool. I’m sure there are a handful.
Just listening to these people talk, the self pity and narcissism just drips from their voices. They will forever be trapped in this "worldly sorrow" by always blaming everyone else for their problems.
Ligonier Ministries has a magazine called Tabletalk that has a daily devotional as well as a few articles. It is well worth the subscription of 25 dollars. I used to give away Our Daily Bread and RBC (Radio Bible Class) booklets at the jail that I ministered at. I wouldn't give them to inmates nowadays. I recommend Tabletalk for those who want a brief, meaningful devotional.
@@Robert_Sparkman_01 Tabletalk is good. It also has a Bible Reading schedule that's helpful.
thanks for this, if I hear a clear compromise of the Gospel I will be pulling their material from our church. God bless.
Who cares about a 'compromise ' of the gospel ..they have racist , false teaching and staff.
@@James-c5e1e Perhaps you are confused what “compromise” of the gospel means?
The other podcast that talked about this was the Center for Biblical Unity. They were terrific in fairly applying some pressure. ODB has to choose between the bad earthly optics of dumping Rasool Berry or the eternal consequences of tolerating and enabling false teaching.
I’ve noticed that they are using more and more female writers. And that is always the path to wokeness.
The serpent went after Eve. Women are more susceptible to certain kinds of deception, including the weaponized empathy of wokeness.
Created to be helpers not leaders
Yes - I knew ODB was compromised.
It has toned down (some) since I sent a reply to a survey they sent me.
I was truthful but didn't back down.
Since then I haven't given any $ to them. I used to support the ministry greatly and willingly shared their monthly devotional booklet.
I'm very sad that this social justice issue has infected so many ministries!
It's depressing to listen to this stuff. Especially coming from ODB. Thank Jon for revealing this to us.
Ol' Dirty Bastard has compromised the Gospel?
Thank you John for exposing those people and their nonsense, keep up the good work, your a fantastic singer.
Be a good Berean💞💞
I use to read and listen to Our Daily Bread for many years.
I stopped in 2020 because my comments were being deleted.
Each day at the end of their devotional you could comment. I was trying to correct someone because they said they were like little gods. The person and their friends would attack me verbally in comments. No one from daily bread said anything until I got a warning saying I was disrespectful. So of course they took over the comment section every day.
I am a black lady who used to listen to RBC every morning. It troubles me that RBC is not teaching the truth of the Bible. Leave ethnicity out of your outreach instead talk about the Bible. Theological truth is paramount to anything else.
“Reach out to us first, not so that we can have an opportunity to repent, but so that we can plan our evasion and damage control.”
Thanks Jon. I’ve had a bad feeling about ODB for a couple of years. Like you said, I’ve thought for many years they are solid. So disappointed.
The proper response to their racial trauma whining is "I don't really care, Margaret."
All this stuff is so beta too. I mean, I deal with chronic medical issues but I don't make a victim of myself to others, despite it being WAY more difficult to deal with than these supposed traumas. It's gross, what they're doing. It's poison.
I believe the phrase, "Toughen up buttercup" would apply to these people. 😊
I began to get suspicious of ODB a few years ago when Winn Collier became one of their writers.
Agree.
It was much better during the
DeHaan years.
This is so sad. I think Dr. Dobson and his unbiblical emphasis on self esteem has laid the groundwork for this foolishness. It's all about self image..and a constantly messaged ego. That is most certainly not the gospel of the kingdom. Anything but.
If you seek out some of Dave Hunt’s old presentations, which can be found on YT, he had documented what you are mentioning.
The gospel for the age of grace is Paul’s, not The Kingdom. 1 Corinthians 15:1-5
It used to be a fine thing. I subscribed in the monthly pamphlet days, and would devour each one as soon as it arrived. I'm sad about this. It's painful to think how Richard DeHaan, Herb vander Lugt, and the other noble people who made that ministry what it was would react to this. One thing we know is that however the Devil mutilates it eventually, no good work done for the glory of God was ever wasted.
Not a hard and fast rule, but in general: if you have to ask, the answer is probably yes regarding is a place woke.
The woman who had a long term affair with her therapist, then convinced her husband she is the victim is guilty of manipulating and abusing her husband. And that husband needs to man up!
My mom subscribed to it decades ago. It doesn't have much depth. I never did like it .
So sad. I listen to the app. It has appeared to be watered down over the past few years.
The old publications were nothing like this
The more mainline Christian denominations and parachurch ministries become, they always seem to drop the doctrine of repentance because it's not very seeker friendly. Should we be surprised when they refuse to repent and instead double down on their stance even in the midst of compromise. The lack of accountability and confession is very consistent with the safe and world-friendly ministry they have become. Also, repenting and course correcting would mean a drop in market share; heaven forbid that any of these ministries would have to carry their cross on this side of glory.
Last fall! They've been doing this for quite awhile. And, there's no way to contact the guy who runs it, can't find his email. I'm really fed up with them. I noticed their changing especially after the Floyd fiasco!
By the way I've never seen a colorless person; don't we all have some color in us?
Good point! We're all people of color. Also, I do think it's funny how they keep changing the phrases. You never hear "colored" anymore, but "people of color" is okay? 😊
@@billh.5360Next you will be criticizing “birthing people”. Be careful!
Linda, it amuses me when people say they cannot contact someone because they cannot find online info. There’s old fashioned mail. There’s telephones.
Thank you!
The way the interviewers go “hmm” to validate the garbage even sounds woke lol. You’re so woke, even your non verbal grunts are woke.
YEp..have heard this 'weak white ' groveling to black racists my whole life.
Hmm.
Heartbreaking they have gone by the way of woke.
I used to read ODB devotional but a after awhile wanted more depth so started reading thru the Bible in a year. I think I stopped before it got woke. I was very surprised to hear this. It’s terrible 😞
Due to your previous podcast, and checking out their website, I've stopped contributing to Our Daily Bread. My wife and I will continue to use their devotionals.
They have a very low of Scripture, if they even read it, instead they have placed a higher view on human wisdom. Scripture isn't sufficient in their view.
"But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering without hypocrisy. " James 3:17
Our church has pulled ODB. ICR has Days of Praise. Much more Biblically based.
Days of Praise devotional seems to be pretty good. One of the creationist groups(Morris) puts it out.
Thank you I will stop receiving Our Daily Bread. Stick to the Bible
Wow. This is not even subtle. The lovers of excuses for their own behavior instead of repentance and change, will not inherit the kingdom of God. Those who acquiesce to the lie will accompany them.
The poor at the time of Christ died of hunger and those so called poor in America of obesity and drug abuse. The poor in America should be sent to the foelds to gather their food as in the timevof Christ.
Hello Jon,
I have greatly benefited from your podcast and view on several issues and have some questions to ask you, i figured youtube comments isn't the best place. What is the best way to ask you some longer questions if you do that with listeners?
This is infuriating to listen to. Halfway through I had to pause it and calm down.
Yes, especially when the one man tried to justify the blm riots! That's outrageous.
I don’t know how you made it through all this nonsense. Just listening to the clips is enough to 🤯🤪
This concerns me. Is this the company that sends out the Little devotional books? My dad reads these, but is not for any of this Marxist racial hatred indoctrination.
What's his point about Lady In Red? It's a song written & performed by a white man about his wife, who is also white? Or is THAT the problem? Is it because they dared play a song that WASN'T about a black woman? Genuine question.
Oooh I say, twangy guitar in the opening credits….nice.
I don’t like BLM or the whole CRT think both are horrific.
I’m from Alabama and was born and raised here, I feel that we should look at what a black person feels when they send their child to a school named after a man who lead the military of the south where we can say what we want but the south was defending slavery. I’ve read the succession papers of the states that seceded and its main issue is slavery. The Southern Confederate Constitution would have made it to where slavery could never be abolished.
I’m not woke I felt this way many many years ago. I believe Floyd died Due to his drug use and not the officer’s fault.
I understand what you're saying. But even if the South had won the Civil War, slavery would have eventually ended, and still within the 19th century. It just wasn't sustainable.
Derek chauvin should be freed
Can we just be honest and admit all this is just whining? It’s all so fatiguing and obnoxious.
Hardly anything is racist against minorities (in fact it’s usually the exact opposite), this woman committed adultery against her husband and he should divorce her, and Jamar is a whiny little baby who is looking for excuses for why he hasn’t achieved more… also he probably knew the lyrics to the rap song.
Are we done here?
This generational trauma is ridiculous and absurd. My great-great grandfather came home from the Civil War with a drinking problem. Should I be traumatized by that?! No, I think not.
Jon, did your family from the south own slaves? You mentioned they were poor but did they have enough money to own slaves?
@@aribbonatatime does that have any bearing on anything?
Jon’s family did not, but Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon, Daniel, and virtually every prominent godly man in OT scriptures along with Philemon, did. Maybe you’ve got a different opinion of slavery than God has.
@matthewdyer2926 Are you able to speak for Jon's family? Sorry, I not trying to be rude but I would like to know if you're a family or just a concerned citizen speaking without knowledge.
And you're right, I may have a different opinion of slavery than that of the Bible but I hope not.
@@aribbonatatime Yes, Jon has stated before his family did not own slaves.
@@Marvinglep I wanted to know so I asked. Hope that's ok with you 😉
Your first example is a huge mistake on your part. You have missed an important doctrinal point, because the person speaking is EXACTLY correct. Yes, Jesus living in Nazareth was VERY MUCH part of His identification with the poor and downtrodden. The fact that His message is universal does not change the fact that His condescension was even to the point of being one of the poor, a man from the wrong side of the tracks. "Can any good thing come out of Nazareth?". And how did he assure John the Baptist? "To the poor the gospel is preached." And again, ""Brothers, consider your calling: Not many are wise from a human perspective, not many powerful, not many of noble birth. Instead, God has chosen what is foolish in the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen what is weak in the world to shame the strong. God has chosen what is insignificant and despised in the world - what is viewed as nothing - to bring to nothing what is viewed as something, so that no one can boast in His presence. " (1Cor 1:26-29, HCSB)
But that second example is really all that is needed to make your point. That was pure wokeism. It's revolting.
Another once solid ministry has gone down the tubes!
@@tnowandthen-t8t Eh, I think my first point is sound. None of those verses show Jesus was trying to identify with the materially poor. That’s a Liberation theology reading. Being poor and identifying with the poor because poverty is somehow noble are two different things.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast None of which verses? I'm not clear on what you are saying there.
As to the rest, it is all over the New Testament, and many a well-respected Bible teacher has preached on it, going back for hundreds of years.
Methinks you have a 'baby and bathwater' problem on this one.
To be clear, I am NOT defending Our Daily Bread in the least. I just think you are off target on this one example. While the person speaking may well be woke himself, and may have woke motives in pointing this out, he's not wrong. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Video too long, as always
Jon has excellent content but he needs to condense it down. Have mentioned this several times in the past and he seems to get irritated.
@@akaJackLugar That is too bad. He does seem to have excellent content, but maybe just not for us mortals with too much real live distractions
Maybe they aren't woke, and this is just what the religion is.
That made ZERO sense!
@@randomvintagefilm273 Why? The religion is universalist already and requires its followers to hand over their possessions to anyone that asks. Its basically modern day progressivism as is why is anyone still quibbling over whether one can be right wing or non woke and be Christian. Clearly the wokes are following the scripture the best.
@@randomvintagefilm273 no bro their woke
No no. Christianity is the farthest thing from woke. In fact it's the antidote to woke!
Yes, an organization dedicated to feeding people celebrates different kinds of people. You're surprised, disappointed? An organization run in the name of a religion that seeks to convert people of every tribe and language and people and nation thinks diversity is to be celebrated. Compromised by what, exactly? If you want a more exclusive religion, you can just join one. Start one, even.
You CANNOT serve two masters.
@@ygonzalez4134 Yes, that's why you should join another religion if the whole love your neighbor as yourself thing is too hard. Find an easier master.
Because Christianity does require you to follow two commandments. You must love the lord God with all your heart, and equally you must love your neighbor as yourself. These two things are of equal importance. The two masters quote, Jesus was specifically talking about those who prioritized the accumulation of money over what their religions asks of them. But hey, if being a Christian is too hard, I don't know, Hinduism maybe? Kemetism? Voudon? You figure that out.
Trump and Jesus tho...
@@insupportofjunhadoRather presumptuous to “read” why Jesus said something. However, reading the entire New Testament in context to itself, the world’s understanding of love is different from Christianity’s.
@ Is Christianity's understanding of context also different than the world's. Jesus consistently treats the foreigner as well as the Jew in the New Testament. Even when he suggest to a foreign woman that he should not, he immediately rewards and praises her for her faith when she suggests otherwise, giving her more than she asked for.
A slave cannot serve more than two masters is immediately followed by Jesus saying you cannot love both God and Money. That the love of money is the source of all kinds of evil. But sure, the organization dedicated to feeding hungry people is compromised because they're dedicated to feeding all kinds of hungry people. The Christian organization is compromised because they're trying to appeal to a diverse range of people, not unlike Jesus, who catered to Romans, Samarians, Jews, criminals, foreigners, the diseased, the crippled and expressed a desire to draw the whole world unto himself.
I'm not advocating for Christianity here, but this line of thinking I'm encountering here is akin to saying the police the governor is compromised because he is expressing a desire to better appeal to the people he governs. Does the governor only serve the rich, or good looking, or the tall or the young? Are dairy farmers compromised when they decide to appeal to potential customers who have lost their ability to digest lactose?
Took about 15 minutes to say anything. It got pretty smug im afraid. When you are looking for the boogieman guess what you will find. Why not celebrate the shades of the whole gospel....since Christ is over all and through all and in us all(believers), then why not in social justice issues too? Nothing wrong with pointing it out as part of a whole. Minimizing people and what they are going through isn't love. So many strawman arguments. Cant believe some of these presenters who "take no pleasure in presenting stuff like this" get such unchallenged respect.
These people are presenting Critical Theory as Christianity.
Poem Who Will Speak For God
Many cower, many fear,
while Marxist men applaud,
forsaking truths
once claimed so dear,
but who will speak for God?
Bigot, racist, homophobe,
names weaponized and broad,
spineless men by these implode
but who will speak for God?
BLM, Antifa fools
working mischief in their pod,
propaganda from state run schools,
but who will speak for God?
Christians preaching social justice?
This gospel is a fraud,
away from scripture
a pastor does this,
but who will speak for God?
Parents bow before their children
and spare the spanking rod,
behold them now
a hoard of villains,
but who will speak for God?
They scavenge their morals
from sea bottom
analogous to cod,
their wrong is right
their spring is autumn,
but who will speak for God?
The shameful, yelling
“shame on you”
the paragon of odd,
hypocrisy in all they do,
but who will speak for God?
“Marginalized defenders”??
blasphemous earthen clod,
they think there'r many genders,
but who will speak for God?
Trusted churchman compromising
with theology so flawed,
heightened itching ears, surprising?
but who will speak for God?
Come now saints undaunted,
budge not upon this sod,
speak His word
by them unwanted,
and you shall speak for God!
Scott Burn
@@jacklawsen6390 I don't think so. I assume you haven't talked to any of them? I assume you say this based off of a lot of talk from the presenter and a few randomly selected clips of video taken out of a broader discussion? I assume you are looking for critical race theory? I assume when the presenter basically says, "I'm not following the Bible by going to the person personally, I'm making myself a god and doing it my way,' that that is ok? I assume that sniping at our brothers and sisters is ok? I assume that this one sided presentation will affirm what most people here already believe. I believe that talking about the poor and oppressed are one part of Christianity. One. Part. Pure religion as laid out in The Word.
You assume a lot of negative things for someone preaching about being charitable toward other believers.
@@colinplank Yes. But I am being clear that I am assuming. But I don't see any actual talking points from people replying. Just making statements. Further entrenching in what you want to believe. Why is being negative not being charitable? Jesus loved more than anyone and called the Pharisees a brood of vipers.