Watching THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO (2009) for the first time! [ REACTION / COMMENTARY ]
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Please continue to finish this series. The next two stories get a lot into Lisbeth's back story which is fascinating.
Noomi Repace is magnificent. She is a total badass in this trilogy.
This is what I needed. Too few reactors are watching the original movies that are far superior.
You should watch the following 2 movies 😊
The Swedish version is way better than the us version
What I love about this movie isn't that the movie is too ''Hollywood clean'' and feels more authentic.
I don't really like the 2011 version and the casting of Daniel Craig was odd for Mikale and Naomi just put the bar on Lisbeth and Mara didn't quite capture the many sides of the character in the book.
I think the US remakes this and ''Låt den rätte komma in'' were rushed projects since I have to say the US public are a bit too lazy to read subtitles thus they remade these two project very fast.
I have a very soft spot for this trilogy not only because I am Swedish myself but also this felt more real not too flashy!
I actually love and prefer Rooney Mara in the Fincher version (although Noomi and all the cast was really great), and think the direction and casting in the US version was really great. However, I didn't like the casting in either version of Lisbeth's guardian because they both came across super creepy right away. Ultimately, you're right that the rush to get a US remake done failed in that they didn't seem to factor in how many people actually went to see the Swedish originals since the books were such a phenomenon, and they weren't interested in seeing a new version so soon. I hope Kelsea reacts to the next two films since we never got those as remakes, and also because I've basically forgotten everything that happened in the books.
Ya I do really enjoy darker, more gritty or raw movies! So I liked that a lot about this! I watch EVERYTHING with subtitles, even if it's in English, because I can't understand it otherwise lol!
@@jksgameshelf3378 we'll definitely get to them!!
I appreciate your mention of "'Låt den rätte komma in" (Let the Right One In - the original). I love that movie.
i agree - the craig and mara cast remake sucked IMO.
I think Lisbeth felt a huge lack of agency in her life. He had been abused by man after man in various ways. She sees Mikael as a diamond in the rough, and chooses to invoke her own agency to initiate some sincere intimacy, though she doesn't completely understand her own reasons. Likewise, Mikael allows it for good and bad reasons. All very conflicted, complicated, and human.
Very true. As much as my idealism made me hate that part, it's not unrealistic at all. It was painfully realistic. Which is maybe why I was so against it happening lol.
♥ this movie! Lisbeth is one of the all time great kick azz characters in literature & cinema!
She's definitely soooo hardcore!!!
@@KelseasCommentshave you reacted to the other two movies in this trilogy?
No not yet!
@@KelseasComments you really should do. It gets into Lisbeth's origins in a big way.
The whole relationship between Blomkvist and Lisbeth is actually painfully realistic. It happens a lot with people after abuse and indeed it's not healthy ... but an honest portrayal. A bit painful to watch but that was probably the intension. It's obviously not a Hollywood movie
That's a good point! I agree it's painfully realistic. Which is probably why it felt so uncomfortable to watch and why it wasn't something I felt inclined to root for. My idealism just would have loved if he was the one that taught her it doesn't have to be like that ya know? And he was her first taste of true friendship/family. But ya, not a Hollywood movie and that's ok!
@@KelseasComments Yep, many times Blomkvist is not as sympathetic (empathic..) as one expects a 'hero' of a story to be.
Ya, but to be fair to him in that situation, I feel like he was as kind and compassionate as he could have been. I can understand why she behaved that way from a trauma perspective but she was still the one in the wrong. I think if he had a deep understanding of what was going on, maybe he would have been like "you know you don't have to do this right?" But we'll never know. Cause she was pretty much a stranger to him. He had no way of knowing she was coming from that place. He didn't seem to ask for that in any way and he didn't seem to ever approach his relationship with her with anything but care and respect. So I think he was almost as good of a guy as he could have been in that situation. Like ya I really do wish he put a stop to it immediately, but I don't necessarily FAULT HIM for not doing so? I don't know. I don't really fault either one I just wish it didn't happen. 🤣
@@KelseasComments Admitted, he knew nothing of her background here...
I've read the entire trilogy multiple times, and even the new books by a new author that try to continue the story, and the original Swedish trilogy definitely is the most faithful and best adaptation of the books. The new movie with Daniel Craig isn't bad, but it just doesn't fully capture the story like the longer ones do, and I think making them in Swedish helps bring the Swedish authors intentions out a little more.
Yes, phone numbers are all different lengths depending on country, including the area codes.
Fascinating!!
Such a great reaction! I was all ready to binge the other two, before I realized only the first was up.
This trilogy is amazing, I watched this with my dad in the cinemas and we both were hooked even tho it got some rough scenes.
The first three books are very good. Much better than the movies. The 2011 movie is really good as well, although they only made 1 of the three so its incomplete, but they did the first book justice.
Ya books are almost always better so I believe that!! I'm excited to check out the rest of the trilogy and the 2011 version for comparison!
Adding to my previous message, you get to see how Lisabeth gets the ultimate revenge.
Goodbye Mikael Nyqvist Rip ;-(
The American version has powerful performances by Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara. I enjoy their performances and while there are some scene differences (especially the ending discovery of the 'lost girl'), the tale is unchanged. My only regret is that the 2nd and 3rd films of the trilogy weren't filmed. Too bad. I especially enjoy the breakfast table scene with Daniel asking Salander to help him catch a "killer of women". Very very powerful. I may prefer these American characters over the Swedish actors (and not forgetting Christopher Plummer), all of these films are rich enough for me to enjoy rewatching them. Finally, you should definitely check out the original Swedish TV miniseries, MILLENIUM. But see it after all others - it has more supporting characters, and more fleshed-out as well. I would not have known these good additional scenes if I hadn't seen the trimmed-down movies first.
Yeah man I still think the American version is much better Rooney Mara gives the best performance of her career in that one. It’s just a shame they never made the next two.
I much prefer the American version too. Love that everything about that film!
now read the book...... Since I have read it many times and watched both movies many times, I enjoyed your journey through it. cheers!
I should definitely read it!
Thanks!
The question is not only if phone numbers are different length (there are international regulations), but how the length changed over time. Old number are usually much shorter. If you get a new phone line today, you'll get a much longer number than in the past.
This seems a good version I didn't realise there were two I must have seen the American version with Daniel Craig and Rooney mara numerous times and I'd put it in my top ten movies.
Oh ya?? I've heard good things and I really love seeing both versions to compare so I'm excited to see the US version!
The books are amazing. Watch all 3 Swedish films. They are all great. The Hollywood remake is okay but nowhere near as good. The 4th film, The Girl in the Spidersweb is not good. The book was written by someone else. As Stig Larsen is sadly no longer with us.
Please watch the whole trilogy and forget about the US Remake,the original is far netter....
Don’t forget the remake because it’s Fincher directing who’s easily one of the best modern directors around and the cast is stronger in the remake. Rooney Mara, Daniel Craig and Stellan Skarsgard alone makes the remake worth watching.
Dear Madam Kelsea,thanks a lot for next video and perfect reactions with cultural informations! This movie(film) great desribes a society and dangerous movements inside society and inside human soul (only my humble personal opinion). Have a wonderful day and time!
Excellent movie, though some parts are a very difficult watch. Something I tend to skip on rewatching the original trilogy. And I would certainly recommend the other two Swedish films (and books at some point, if you have the time or desire to). If nothing else to see the conclusion of the trilogy. The actress who plays adult Lisbeth is Noomi Rapace. This series is probably what she's best known for, initially anyway. She was also in Prometheus (yes the Alien franchise one), and though I tend to forget, one of the Robert Downey Jr Sherlock Holmes films. Last I watched her in though was Close.
I was never big on the idea of Lisbeth being romantically involved with Mikael Blomkvist. I do think it works better as a friendship or found family, and not entirely sure why it happened in the story. It's been a while, but I think the book made it clearer she had dug into his life and all, so maybe more obvious she knows the kind of person he is. Not that he knows her well. Here it can feel a bit jarring.
As for the 2011 English version, it's ok, and a shorter less difficult and raw watch. Banger intro cover of a certain well known song too. And yes, Rooney Mara goodness (almost time for my yearly Carol rewatch). But the rest of the trilogy didn't get adapted in English last I looked. They skipped Girl Who Played With Fire and Girl Who Kicked The Hornets Nest, and instead released a movie based on a follow up book, The Girl in the Spider's Web. This time with Claire Foy as Lisbeth. That one is based on the first book not by the original author.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought they worked better as a friend/family type of relationship! And ya I'll definitely have to check out the rest of the trilogy!!
It's hard to say if Lisbeth was romantically involved with Blomqvist. Yes, she had sex with him, but in a "using the man to get off" fashion. Maybe the ending of the movie showed the beginning of a desire for love, which fizzled when she saw him with another woman. Kelsea MUST watch the last two Swedish films with Noomi Rapace. Her life story is horrific, and the movies only capture part of it . . .
2009 is original and very good movie, just saw yesterday on tv, now will watch again 😊😊😊
I have seen both this one and the American one, I love the star of this one that o why I prefer this one ,Iconsuder Naomi to be be a great natural beauty . I love both films
Wow, I’m a year behind the times here in commenting, but I just noticed something I never did on previous watches. When Mikael is looking at the negatives of Harriet at the parade & it advances frame by frame as though it was a movie, still cameras couldn’t do that back then. You snapped the shutter, then advanced the film before you could take another. You wouldn’t get every inch as she turned her head. Unless it was a movie film, but the negatives do look like regular film. Anyway, great reaction. Not too many folks choose either movie so kudos to you for venturing outside the box!
There were motorized attachments for SLRs for advancing the film automatically and more rapidly. I don't know if those things existed already at that time, but if they did it's plausible for a fotojournalist to have one of them, and shoot pictures quite a lot faster than when advancing the film manually. Obviously not nearly as fast as a movie camera, but maybe enough to create the effect shown here.
If you have the option of choosing subtitle text colors, choose a color other than white or black outline. Yellow text blends in with the background and reads like print on a tee-shirt. Much less distracting.
I am so glad that you are watching the Swedish version. It is so much better, and you have got to continue and watch all three movies. Noomi Rapace is simply an incredible actress. Yes I have read all THREE books and the swedish version is by far the best. Personally I wouldn't bother with the remake. Firstly it's not as good and secondly it doesn't have the two books that follow. You should know that many people have said that Lisbeth struggles with high functioning autism.
U should watch the movie Ur Next, Talk to Me , Black Christmas 2006
Yes, that's her!
The actress playing Lisbeth was in ALIEN PROMETHEUS and SHERLOCK HOLMS: GAME OF SHADOWS as well as many other films.
14:39 No she is Martin's cousin, not his sister. Harriet was his sister.
16:55 Not all questions end up being answered. Plenty of mysteries remain unsolved. And obsession can be terrible. In the book there 's a marvelous exchange when the retired detective notes every career police office has a case like this, one that haunts them. Such can destroy someone. It is very human, this reaction.
17:29 Phone numbers are different in differnt countries. And over time, the pattern of the numbers change. Up until the 1950s all phone numbers in the US had a name then five numbers. Researched this for a play I'm writing.
21:21 Yes of course. Especially since he's not going to cross the street during a parade to get a view from teh other side, and for what?
21:57 Everything looked good. So he acted upon it. It was very cleverly done, this set-up.
48:10 Yes. That was her father, her mother's rapist and abuser.
48:53 No. We do NOT choose everything we are. We cannot. But what we can choose, we do. And either way, a serial killer and rapist must be stopped. She did not even kill him. She just let him die.
49:32 Yeah, he's going to prison. Did you forget that?
54:30 Prison. Teh reason he's in prison was explained at the very beginning. It was his sentence for slandering a businessman.
53:52 This is the first part of a trilogy. The relationship between these two has a long way to go.
58:18 LIsbeth is an AMAZING hacker. She simply created a new identity, donned some new clothes and a wig, then stole millions from the crook who framed Mikkel.
I didn't forget about prison but I was just confused. I thought he had already gone or something. Like I didn't get why he wasn't arrested until after he went and worked on that case? I don't know since it's been a while now since I watched.
@@KelseasComments He was sentenced but did not have to begin his sentence for several months.
It is important to note Sweden is quite different from the USA in a lot of ways. The novel really is excellent and dives into everyone as well as everything with real depth (as is usually, although not always, the case).
The three books actually written by Larson are excellent. The movies made from them are good as well. I did not read any of the later books because they were written posthumously without consent from Larson's estate.
Seeing Lisbeth shake watching the video made me shake as well. Horrible scene.
I also did not like the direction the relationship between Blomquest and Lisbeth took. But I did appreciate that she took the initiative and it signaled a level of trust she could not express otherwise. The author portrays her is as an autistic person who has gone through a lot of shit inflicted on her. And it is overall a pretty good job. But this one aspect doesn't work for me (as the father of an autistic child). It may be that a man trying to write a woman's view didn't work in this case. But again, I think the point is she showed both growing trust and the fact that she was in control of that trust.
Ya definitely a case where a man writing a woman did not work at all!!
I mean, with that said, her actions aren't entirely unbelievable. Women have done stuff like that. It just.. didn't work for me in this context.
Noomi Rapace > than any Lisbeth actress since she starred in the role.
Despite all the comments, don’t forget the remake. David Fincher directs it and he’s easily one of the best modern directors around and it’s got a better cast in Rooney Mara, Daniel Craig and Stellan Skarsgard.
Wrong. Rooney was good, but couldn't hold a candle to Noomi's Lisbeth through the original Swedish trilogy.
It turned me off when Fincher had Lisbeth ask Mikael's permission to go after Martin at the end of the movie. That's just so not her character.
I felt about Lisbet and Mikael more as a friends with benefits relationship
The book does a much better job describing things and how they tie together. Especially the venestrom affairs and how he came to be accused of libel, but the books also just seem to throw sex and promiscuity in whenever the author runs out of actual storyline. Almost like filler to keep lonely broads interested in the book.
Please watch and react to “Under the Skin” (2014) staring Scarlett Johansson
If you’re in a coffee shop waiting for your order, and see lisbeth come in, would you talk to her? 😈 Me neither.
I talk to everyone 🤣
He is in jail because of the libal
If someone were to ask me, personally, which version to see, I would have to say without hesitation that this is the rare occasion where the American adaptation is superior.
I did not think it was possible to stay so true to the story under three hours. The pacing felt better, while also giving much clearer information, the music, the dna 🧬 of the film, seeped from every pore of celluloid, to the editing. And Mara gave a captivating performance. From the first scene you see her. She’s dangerous.
I'm really excited to see that version!!
I certainly hope you react the American version with Craig and Mara. I think their chemistry plays out better than this film even though I think this one is good. The 2011 film even has some humor in it which is lacking in this one.
That girl is a disgrace....her I Q is very low....no nonsensical and an idiot...bitch
In my opinion the 2011 remake is superior to this version. It fixes a lot of the things that confused you and the story threads are easier to follow, especially when it comes to the huge Vanger family. Also Rooney Mara is, to me, *the* definitive Lisbeth Salander. Noomi was very good here but I feel Rooney was able to capture more of the book's character in her performance. Also minor detail, here where I live phone numbers used to be much shorter in the past because there were less people who had landlines. I imagine it was the same in Sweden back in the 60s so it was kinda reasonable for them to think those numbers were phone numbers.
I've heard people on both sides of the debate but without having seen the remake, I have a feeling I'm going to agree with you because I've heard a lot of these same remarks. I'm excited to watch it and see!
gr8 movie
Yes it was!
I feel this is one of the few instances where the remake was at least as good as the original, if not better. The main drawback of this 2009 version is that it perhaps follows the book a bit too closely, trying to include more threads of the plot at the expense of less clarity of what's going on. Don't feel bad about losing track of all the relatives; the book even starts off with a family tree to help keep track of the characters.
That makes a lot of sense!! I really actual am excited to watch the other one and compare them!
The book is excellent and I like both adaptations but I think the American is superior both with performances and the way it’s shot. The director David Fincher is a master when it comes to creating shots and establishing mood and the way he shoots and structures the film is excellent. You understand what’s going on much better. As someone who read the books multiple times, the way the 2011 version is structured is much better. Rooney Mara performs Lisbeth exactly as I imagined her in the book, and she also fits the exact physical description Larson provides in the novel. Daniel Craig is also a bit more believable as a playboy and they go more into detail about his and Lisbeth’s relationship which makes things much less confusing. Not to mention that craig is built a bit more like a former soldier. A lesser discussed contribution is the great performance the legendary actor Christopher Plummer gives as Vanger. He brings some characteristics which add a great deal to his character. In short you should definitely react to the 2011 version. I usually like foreign films more but I think fincher’s version is darker and just generally better
I also think the 2011 retelling works better and fixes the problems of the original. I think Mara better inhabits the role of lisbeth.
As for the sex scene between her and Mikael works better in the 2011 version, I mean Mikael was shocked too! 😂 This isn’t really a spoiler as the original is already done. But it’s explained more in the 2011 version.
Very intricate storytelling and you can get lost in it. But overall great movie, and definitely struck a nerve with audiences. We don’t see a female character portrayed like this very often, who doesn’t need a man to rescue her.
Very very true!!
Thanks!