I think it's a one time thing. Hero is too slow to match up to most of the top tiers in this game. Once you learn to read his spell list as he pulls it, you can shut down his options
I think the hero was just that good. I also feel like when the guy got crits that's the main reason he got a couple kills and major damage but I think this guy is just that good. Any hero could do that but what most do is spam whatever loves they see first on the magic menu thing
I've watched him play sets in tourney but, I never watched him stream or anything so, after this I'll probably go check his content out he's pretty funny.
1:11 I main Hero, and tbh reading and memorizing the spells took a bit getting used to and using them quickly under pressure. Usually it takes me about 1/2 of a second to identify 2-4 of the spells in the menu, then pick whichever spell I see that I feel most keen on using depending on where the opponent is. Sometimes I pick too quickly which just results in "Random bullsh*t go!" But other than that I've memorized all 22 spells
5:43 this exact reason is why joker is one of my least favorite matchups, his guns are probably the best thing in the entire game at edge guarding hero, they prevent zoom, and if you try to up B it just cancels it until you slowly fall into the void. it's also extremely annoying when he has arsene because then it makes it extremely difficult to use menu. Im not sure how akakikusu beat zackrays joker, and it will probably never happen again, but i really hope to see more big hero players. characters got potential, people just havent optimized him
4:34 it wasn’t a random dash attack lmao, after getting hit with a fully charged neutral b, a buffed dash attack with psych up would have broken shield
As a hero main who has won some local tournaments and has over 9.1 mil GSP with him: Y'all sleeping on my mans. If you have good spacing, only the wildest of rushdown characters can stop you.
Watching Wadi learn/be surprised about basic character properties/moves will never not be funny lol Also it’s so funny how different he is here and when streaming compared to the times I’ve interacted with him at the cave all those years ago
WaDi, joker's down gun is a disjointed hitbox according to both SSBU and UFD. So if you use down gun, you can use it to edge guard while staying out of your oponent's range, bayo's gun art is also a disjointed hitbox.
So I have a question. When offline returns and someone from japan is playing someone from the states and they use hero will the game text be put in Japanese or English? I feel like whoever it isn't in favor of is at a severe disadvantage unless they learned what every single hero spell is in every language. (Or at least the commonly used languages)
This is a hot take, but I think every character is top tier in this game, I feel like Japan is simply a lot more innovative and creative with how to play characters on a competitive level, and as such constantly push the boundaries of what characters can do, making any character they show to be good a “new” top tier, when they’ve been good all along and no ones really realized
@@williamhenderson5549 surprisingly there is a really good Japanese Mac that always gets top 13 or better in tournaments. The character’s still bottom tier though
Wadi: "Wait did that hit him even with the Bounce on? They're bullets!" Me: *pushes up glasses* Well actually, in Persona 5 his gun is just a model, and he can only use it in the Metaverse because his enemy thinks they're being shot, without any actual bullets being used. So it's a psychological attack, not a physical or energy-based one. Totally *snort* different.
I think he's a mid tier character normally with the ability to be a hightier with even 1 buff and a top 1 character when he starts throwing things like Kaboom, Thwack, Kamakaze, Magic Burst, Hocus Pocus, Neutral B 3, all 3 buffs and Crits. When a Hero is just getting completely oppressed, he can't menu and he's just getting out frame datad, his bairs and nairs are getting stuffed or baited out his flaws really show like a sore thumb but with Ultimate's engine this is surprisingly not a consistent gameplan and you're going to be forced to deal with Hero playing his game too more often than not. The thing about Hero is his RNG "bullshit" isn't that uncommon and in a full 5 game, 2-3 set Hero will probably steal like 7 or 8 stocks with his super gimmicks completely uncontested and when you look at it like pre nerf Wario could steal 5 stocks in a 5 game set this number becomes very impressive. On top of the lunacy that is all of this stuff Side B 2 is a contender for 1 of the best moves in the entire game and multiple characters would KILL for this move.
I've played hero before he came Into smash, And i Personally Think that he just Is the best charcter he gets Buffs, slashes, Crits, Kill power, and Zoning Methods, and The only thing that i think ruins him is frame data, Mana Points don't kill him if you know how to use it properly unless You're a bad player, But his frame data just makes it hard to Escape combos, or combo unless its up air but other then that HE IS THE GOD HE IS EVEN BETTER THEN PANDA GLOBAL
Panda: IS (Low/Mid Tier) BROKEN?!?!?! And then the video is ALWAYS: 1. A Japanese tournament 2. The person using the low tier playing out of his damn mind completely unrelated to his character 3. His opponent being on literal crack cocaine for how godawful they played in THIS EXACT set 4. Ten One-in-a-trillion occurrences in a row, all in favor of the low tier 5. Barely getting the win
Hero is a very solid character- on a good day. Imo the only reason he isn't a top tier is because he can be inconsistent. Rng is never something you want to bring into a competitive setting imo, but hey, when it works it pops off!
2019: OMG GUYS HERO IS BUSTED!!!!! BAN HIM NOW!!!! 2020: Huh???? Oh yeah... about that... he’s mid tier at best. 2021: OMG GUYS HERO IS BUSTED!!!!! Didn’t even take 2 years to come full circle
What do you think? Was this a one time thing or is Hero the real deal?
When hero has oomph or psych up and acceleratle he is chrismas
I think it's a one time thing. Hero is too slow to match up to most of the top tiers in this game.
Once you learn to read his spell list as he pulls it, you can shut down his options
I think the hero was just that good. I also feel like when the guy got crits that's the main reason he got a couple kills and major damage but I think this guy is just that good. Any hero could do that but what most do is spam whatever loves they see first on the magic menu thing
It will happen again
@Megidolaon I think they think it's all luck, but it's good awareness and skill with his character
Seeing wadi on the team makes me so happy
I know right!!!
So glad he got picked up 🙌 i love him sm and am so happy to see him getting this support
same
He has 90s Edutainment energy. I don’t know exactly what that means but it’s a positive.
yea never actually heard him talk til recently on marss channel but dudes hilarious
he’s a top tier, but only approximately 1 time out of 16
Basically a critical hit at pokemon gen 3
@@iuricunhamurakami8261 no that's j
Is it with or without thwack and whack
Hocus Pokus Super Mushroom.
@@DaDMonDCB
Plus Star and Oomph
god wadi was such a good addition to the team
I've watched him play sets in tourney but, I never watched him stream or anything so, after this I'll probably go check his content out he's pretty funny.
Wadi just has a perpetual thumb nail face
“Is this a one time thing?”
“I guess I have to respect hero players”
The quickest turnaround with facts and logic
Just like ESAM said once "Hero is, on a good day, a top tier character".
I fricking love WaDi so much.
Yeah! I knew of him for being a good mewtwo but he’s been popping up in videos I’ve been watching lately and he’s actually really funny
This combo is godly Marss Trashtalks, ESAM analyzes and Wadi is just funny
1:55 WaDi looks like his entire world has been turned upside down because he thinks that the up smash is that fast
5:43 Just to answer WaDi, Joker's Gun is considered a physical attack. That's why it didn't get reflected.
Why?
I just assumed that bounce didn’t cover the top of his head
@@nathanielburns6692 It's made like that to stay true to Persona 5's game design; guns in the game are considered physical attacks.
@@PaulApollo nope, guns in specifically p5 are they're own type of attack
@@JoshuaIfidi Yes they are, but gun skills in P5 are still considered a type of physical skill.
Im actually surprised about how little WaDi knows about this game while being a PGR player
I’m pretty sure he didn’t even own the game for the first year of ultimate
Tbf who else plays hero at a top level
You’re gonna go crazy when you learn who dabuz is
Not just a PGR hes the #1 ranked online player atm too lol
@@turok123453 pretty sure that's spargo
So happy WaDi's on the team! I should watch his streams more, never realized how entertaining he was.
1:11 I main Hero, and tbh reading and memorizing the spells took a bit getting used to and using them quickly under pressure. Usually it takes me about 1/2 of a second to identify 2-4 of the spells in the menu, then pick whichever spell I see that I feel most keen on using depending on where the opponent is. Sometimes I pick too quickly which just results in "Random bullsh*t go!" But other than that I've memorized all 22 spells
5:43 this exact reason is why joker is one of my least favorite matchups, his guns are probably the best thing in the entire game at edge guarding hero, they prevent zoom, and if you try to up B it just cancels it until you slowly fall into the void. it's also extremely annoying when he has arsene because then it makes it extremely difficult to use menu. Im not sure how akakikusu beat zackrays joker, and it will probably never happen again, but i really hope to see more big hero players. characters got potential, people just havent optimized him
4:20 that dash attack would've broken shield too that's why. Since he had psyche up and just hit his shield with fully charged neutral b
4:28 wasnt quite random since psyc up dash attack could break shield after the max nuetral b
WaDi is so fun, im glad he is a panda now
15:43 never did I think I would ever hear something from Genshin in a Smash video
Gj Panda, you just earned yourself another sub for that
razor main
@@cpu8636 Childe main here, still only C0 tho (not rolling on the rerun)
A ranbom character: wins a tourney in japan
Pandas: is this a new TOP TIER?!
I love WaDi's vibe man, such a good addition to PG!
“What is this game?!” - WaDi 2021
Oomph + Psyche up ANYTHING breaks shields tbh
5:50 nah jokers gun counts as a disjoint cuz in Persona guns aren’t considered to shoot projectiles I think
5:43
Gun≠projectile
Grappling hook=projectile
13:38 Oomph Psych up *ANYTHING* breaks shield
The Good, The Bad, And The Funny:
Featuring Esam's compliments, Mars' shittalk, and Wadi's wit
Wadi is an absolute vibe
“What are those blue things?”
Me a Dragon Quest Fan: Oh so you have chosen death?
Your name makes the comment so much better
@@snuggie1849 I don’t make one dimensional comments, my friend. Except when I do.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised seeing japan say that banjo is high tier 👁👄👁
Looking forward to the insane Banjo run at their next tournament 👀
@@PandaGlobal LOL I'd love to see that happen
God please no
@@MajoraWaffle ni banjo sucks. He is a bad duck hunt and snake.
@@MajoraWaffle yes, and the player who isn’t a pro knows more than the players who play smash as their job.
I always thought that Hero is a very powerful character! ✅
Hype Pac-man vs Hero match sounds like something that'd be said ironically but man this was awesome.
We just needed Plup for the trifecta. Marss and WaDi are so awesome.
4:34 it wasn’t a random dash attack lmao, after getting hit with a fully charged neutral b, a buffed dash attack with psych up would have broken shield
“Nooo that sucks for Zackary”. How to start an analysis video lmao
LOL
Poor kid lmao
As a hero main who has won some local tournaments and has over 9.1 mil GSP with him: Y'all sleeping on my mans. If you have good spacing, only the wildest of rushdown characters can stop you.
4:28 It wouldve broken his shield, Marss(he is a top 5 player btw).
i don't think so, maybe he tried to shield poke with the dash attack
@@johnarthur8756 well you're wrong.
Second before that dash attack landed, hero neutral b hit the shield and was lowered
@@johnarthur8756 He had psyche up and shield was only half
Its crazy how good wadi is when it seems like he knows nothing about the game sometimes
Wadi is such a great addition to the team. Funny guy 🤝
I’m so conflicted between wadi’s personality and the fact he’s a rob main.
I've always thought hero was underrated. He was always lower high tier at worst for me
this guy actually made watching hero fun, like actually really entertaining fun
Assignatura here. Wadi feels like a child discovering the characters, while being a top player, and I love it !
Pac-Man: *about to get murdered by Hero*
ESAM: Pac-Man's sleeping animation is cute!
Fun fact Aka is the Japanese word for the color 🔴 which is also color for 🔥 which is what his hero is 🗡 🛡 🔥
You really got the best new recruit possible, great video!
15:40 hero lookin like he got put on a cross. Looking like Tea have him 50 lashes for spreading a new religion a.k.a. expanding the meta
I did not know Wadi was that likable!
“They’re bullets” fucking sent me
5:43 They’re bullets!
Watching Wadi learn/be surprised about basic character properties/moves will never not be funny lol
Also it’s so funny how different he is here and when streaming compared to the times I’ve interacted with him at the cave all those years ago
WaDi, joker's down gun is a disjointed hitbox according to both SSBU and UFD. So if you use down gun, you can use it to edge guard while staying out of your oponent's range, bayo's gun art is also a disjointed hitbox.
Wadi just officially made this the best smash channel now. Nice snag
“nice normal get up, ya stinky!” i feel 8 audibly laughing at that so hard
Is it just me or is tea like so fun to watch
i love seeing Wadi with the other pandas
Wadi talks like my 80 years old grandpa. It's so strange and funny man.
Love these kind of videos! Keep it up Panda. Also... that Genshin Impact music... good choice 😉👍
Joker gun hits through bounce
Everyone actually everyone: wtf?!
So I have a question. When offline returns and someone from japan is playing someone from the states and they use hero will the game text be put in Japanese or English? I feel like whoever it isn't in favor of is at a severe disadvantage unless they learned what every single hero spell is in every language. (Or at least the commonly used languages)
This is a hot take, but I think every character is top tier in this game, I feel like Japan is simply a lot more innovative and creative with how to play characters on a competitive level, and as such constantly push the boundaries of what characters can do, making any character they show to be good a “new” top tier, when they’ve been good all along and no ones really realized
Little Mac disagrees
@@williamhenderson5549 surprisingly there is a really good Japanese Mac that always gets top 13 or better in tournaments. The character’s still bottom tier though
@@giabbymarx7428 really? That's pretty cool, what's his tag?
@@williamhenderson5549 Tarakotori
@@hauclir9379 thanks
Most hype hero game play I've ever seen. Hero main here 💕
Wadi: "Wait did that hit him even with the Bounce on? They're bullets!"
Me: *pushes up glasses* Well actually, in Persona 5 his gun is just a model, and he can only use it in the Metaverse because his enemy thinks they're being shot, without any actual bullets being used. So it's a psychological attack, not a physical or energy-based one. Totally *snort* different.
So glad to finally see wadi in a vid. Now we just need to see him dance like with hbox
I think he's a mid tier character normally with the ability to be a hightier with even 1 buff and a top 1 character when he starts throwing things like Kaboom, Thwack, Kamakaze, Magic Burst, Hocus Pocus, Neutral B 3, all 3 buffs and Crits.
When a Hero is just getting completely oppressed, he can't menu and he's just getting out frame datad, his bairs and nairs are getting stuffed or baited out his flaws really show like a sore thumb but with Ultimate's engine this is surprisingly not a consistent gameplan and you're going to be forced to deal with Hero playing his game too more often than not. The thing about Hero is his RNG "bullshit" isn't that uncommon and in a full 5 game, 2-3 set Hero will probably steal like 7 or 8 stocks with his super gimmicks completely uncontested and when you look at it like pre nerf Wario could steal 5 stocks in a 5 game set this number becomes very impressive.
On top of the lunacy that is all of this stuff Side B 2 is a contender for 1 of the best moves in the entire game and multiple characters would KILL for this move.
Im so happy that wadi is on panda now
Wadi?! Sponsored and by none other than Panda so?! Godlike, everyone liked that. Good stuff.
I've played hero before he came Into smash, And i Personally Think that he just Is the best charcter he gets Buffs, slashes, Crits, Kill power, and Zoning Methods, and The only thing that i think ruins him is frame data, Mana Points don't kill him if you know how to use it properly unless You're a bad player,
But his frame data just makes it hard to Escape combos, or combo unless its up air but other then that HE IS THE GOD HE IS EVEN BETTER THEN PANDA GLOBAL
How many takes did Wadi do? There was like 3 cuts in the subscribe segment
I've never heard of Wa Di until now, but I need more of him
Bro WaDi is literally meant to be on camera. Natural born entertainer.
Panda: IS (Low/Mid Tier) BROKEN?!?!?!
And then the video is ALWAYS:
1. A Japanese tournament
2. The person using the low tier playing out of his damn mind completely unrelated to his character
3. His opponent being on literal crack cocaine for how godawful they played in THIS EXACT set
4. Ten One-in-a-trillion occurrences in a row, all in favor of the low tier
5. Barely getting the win
WaDi is the secret hidden top tier
“Hit that like button so you don’t miss out” oh wadi
WaDi is the most chill top player
That upsmash was the other side of the Mississippi
petition to make wadi do all the panda intros
I like how they just have #Marss but not anyone else. It gives off this very Alpharad Deluxe vibe.
Hero is a top tier
Sometimes
Who else thinks panda is the best esports team?
WaDi adds so much to panda videos
Akakikusu is my favorite player now. HERO MAINS RISE UP!
Marss: Trash talking both players
ESAM: Constantly complimenting
Wadi: Hard reads and being surprised about things
Love the genshin music at the end
I know wadi didn’t just say”that doesn’t count as a projectile” we knew that day 1 dude 😹😹
00:17
People still don’t know that joker’s gun counts as a disjoint and not a projectile?
5:44 Wadi it’s been years man 😂
I had no idea that WaDi is so chill and funny!
Hearing the Genshin music at the end made me think I still had my game open lmao.
OMFG YOU GUYS GOT WADI! BEST DECISION OF YOUR LIVES
Hero is a very solid character- on a good day. Imo the only reason he isn't a top tier is because he can be inconsistent. Rng is never something you want to bring into a competitive setting imo, but hey, when it works it pops off!
You have to have a massive fucking brain to play him tbh
most hero players play inconsistently but akakikusu play consistently that enables him to be top tier
is anybody going to mention aleister the pk trainer
I'm 100% convinced that every good Hero and Pac Man are AI of some kind, these characters weren't meant for mortal men
2019: OMG GUYS HERO IS BUSTED!!!!! BAN HIM NOW!!!!
2020: Huh???? Oh yeah... about that... he’s mid tier at best.
2021: OMG GUYS HERO IS BUSTED!!!!!
Didn’t even take 2 years to come full circle
Wadi makes this channel so much funnier
TF do you mean secret, we established this when he first came out
Thanks Panda for putting WaDi on the team! :-)
One day top players will know which of hero's moves are which and what they do before calling him mid tier
Wadi not knowing about Slimes was saddening