Interesting, when Rio sliced the background I interpreted that as a display of her control over reality as Death (using a semi 4th-wall break), but taking it in context, I realize it was a clue that the Road itself was an illusion, a matte facade on which they were like players on a stage.
@@illusion-xiii Exactly! But your interpretation is also correct, in my opinion. I think, Rio did mean to demonstrate that she was not imprisoned in the illusion and that Agatha's trip on the road would eventually end and she, Death, would be there, waiting. Ready to collect. 🪦
Oh the Road is VERY Real and that was a display of Death controlling reality. Billy made it real so it is real now. It just never existed until well now.
@@MintyMacha In a sense you are right! Billy can clearly do reality warp. But if he changes reality for other people, from their perspective it can be considered an illusion, something that shouldn't be there and differs from their original reality. For example as Agatha, I would claim I have a basement under my house, but momentarily if I peeked there, I would see Billy's remake of my reality, which would appear unreal to me - hence the term illusion. But it's just semantics. We all know that it's not, in fact, an illusion set over reality, but rather reality reshaping itself according to Billy's wish.
I love how, in the very beginning she flat out stares The Witches Road doesn't exist, and this is one of the few true statements Agatha has made that we should have taken at face value.
she doesn't actually lie to billy a lot (if at all). billy's tarot reading of her was accurate in that regard, even if it wasn't what the trial required
She generally tells something approaching truth, but in a way that is like "if she said the sky was blue, I'd look up to check, then realise that meant I'd taken my eyes off her and was about to be stabbed"
She did not not say "bro you litterally created this place " that's not even what her look said her was " oh know you shouldn't wish for that, then I can't get what I want from the road" it's the same reason she was worried about him dying if he died they would either be trapped in the road with no further trials or the road would disappear.
@@hardcandy9880 Yes, that one got me too. Like I had no idea why she winked at Billy until it all started to make sense eventually. 😶 That's a masterpiece scene right there for me.
I’ve watched the show start to finish three times. The second viewing hits different now that you know the true nature of the road. But your edit here is great because I even missed some of them watching it three times.
Now this is how you do a plot twist, right under your nose but just enough that you will feel that something was very off. For a "witches' road" that has trials for each witches, the settings seems too modern. Like three out of the four real witches lived for centuries, you would think that the trials should be more ancient looking and something out of a dark creepy setting. But no, all we got was a fancy place, a music studio, a 90s vacation cabin, a reference to popular witches in media, and a weird morgue. Those are not something that witches who lived through centuries would be familiar to, its what someone who only knows witches on a shallow level. The only argument you can say about it at first is something like: "well disney wants to make popular references and tribute to classic witch medias and horrors". But it turns out it was just Billy who made the witches' road real, a teenager who was very obssessed with witches
This is what most writers don't understand. A plot twist isn't good because it surprises the audience. A plot twist is good when it happens and suddenly all the little puzzle pieces the audience was struggling with snap together into a complete picture. It's that feeling, not the surprise, that sticks with people.
before the last ep aired, I always wondered why the road was so stereotypical and whimsical like the road is so wizard of oz…. and then it actually had a reason why that is haha
It's literally a path to find a wish granter only for the wish granter to be illusion a pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Then just look Dorothy didn't even need the wizard to get home she had the rubby slippers since she got to oz. Billy didn't need the road to find Tommy he had Agatha all along.
@@theblurredlights Yes, there was! I have another part of that scene included in the video, because this particular part seemed too ambiguous for me to be a hint really. If Agatha had let Rio finish, then it would have been another thing. 😁
@@simpleplanfan011 Agreed! Since Thor Love and Thunder I've become very careful about picking marvel movies or tv shows to watch, but I am very pleased with how this one turned out. 👍
right before she slices the wall open rio starts to say "on a road that doeesnt exist" but agatha cuts her off before she can finish. it really does hit different when you have the context of knowing he created it.
I thought the witches road sounded like a really dumb idea, the kind of plot convenience lazy writers include; and what do you know, that was the twist all long
One thing I still don't get is what was Agatha's original plan? She knew that Jen is bound and Sharon is not a witch. Plus she didn't want to kill Billy, but probably also didn't want to share her secret with him. AND she told Lilia that striking her allows her to steal their magic. So if the door didn't appear, the only one who could strike her was Alice, if Lilia didn't stop her. And what would she do with the rest? Just kill them?
I also think the reason she told Lillia about her magic absorbing ability was because Lillia has a mess up mind and tend to forgot things. I think she thought that would be just okay
She was desperate and needed witches quickly. And she only needed one of them to strike her. So she thought the only way to convince Lilia to go was to tell her that secret, but hoped that Lilia wouldn’t be able to warn the others in time. But she needed all of them to keep up the ruse that the road was real.
Watching it again, I don’t think she knew Jen was fully bound from the get go, I think she just kind of put it together as they went along and just kept quiet about it, or if she did know, it really didn’t matter to her immediate plan of not being murdered by the Salem 7. The way I saw it, I think she was really just kind of desperately making one last grab for anyones power knowing that the Salem 7 were about to be on her and these 4 were the only ones she had time to dupe. But, she needed all 4 there to trick them into falling for it given the context of the song and was just hoping that at least one would manage to blast her and give her time to escape and regroup/find other witches to steal from later. We constantly see Agatha bargain, scheme, lie, and act the second the situation turns and overall fly pretty off the cuff with her plans, so I like to think that her original goal here was just to buy more time the way she so often does and just kind of went with it when she realized Billy might actually be able to give her a bigger power boost if she played through his version of the road.
Because as she said in the car too Teen, even the most down and out witches can create a spark as a coven, which she could steal since she was so desperate for power, before the Salem Seven could reach her Sharon was a non factor and put there for appearance cause she couldn’t steal Rio, but Agatha could have just killed her afterwards
Doesn’t anyone find it strange that Agatha told Lilia the secret about her succubus powers? That’s literally what spoiled her one ultimate goal in the beginning, why did she do that?
It's the only reason they didn't end up killed by Agatha, unlike her previous victims. Lilia telling the other witches to not blast her made them live long enough to notice the door.
She needed Lilia to go so she would have enough witches to keep up the ruse, and for that, Lilia had to trust her, so she told Lilia that secret. But I guess she hoped Lilia wouldn’t warn the others in time
I honestly think she just put all her faith in thinking Lilia wouldn’t be able to resist trying to murder her. I mean, it never failed her before, even her own mother couldn’t resist the temptation
What do you mean? The sound wasn't changed in any way from the original. I have literally just checked the sound of the video in comparison to Disney+. Might be a bit distorted because of youtube's upload, but that is what happens with every video. Nothing out of norm. Might be something on your side?
@@torak_editsthe dialogue is only in one ear, the right ear. The left ear only has music, the right has music and dialogue. I really don’t think that’s how it sounds on Disney.
@@reedjos08 Oh, now I understand! I didn't listen to the audio through headphones only speakers (and there the problem is not so clear). I didn't use headphones before because I just wrongly assumed there could be nothing wrong with the sound since the files were high quality to begin with. I have just now checked these files I worked with and they do have the problematic sound system you described embedded. My bad! Sorry! But thank you very much for pointing it out. I would like to create another videos about Rio, Agatha and Billy, so I will have to search for different files to work with.
Listen here’s a thought the witches road always exist but Agatha never had a true need for it until she lost her powers that’s one directions they could’ve went with the show
It is an interesting idea! But we have to also consider that in the show it seems like Agatha and Nicholas made the song up from scratch without any previous model (added more and more to it and modified it). And if they really did - then it would be a big coincidence that the Road really existed at that moment or longer.
This is an example of all fan fiction being terrible Billy is Wandas son. Wanda created the illusion of a sit com in West view she created three life forms from magic. Billy inherited her abilities and Billy created the witches road from magic. It was never real till he made it real. The witches road was a song Agatha's son her collaborated to make it was a lulabye she son to her son who she used to learn witches to her house to murder. Then after her son died she used to the song as a con to convince witches the witches road existed and could grant wishes. Only so she could kill them when the door which never existed didn't open. Your version is absolutely terrible compared to the story we got. You should never write anything it will be garage.
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Interesting, when Rio sliced the background I interpreted that as a display of her control over reality as Death (using a semi 4th-wall break), but taking it in context, I realize it was a clue that the Road itself was an illusion, a matte facade on which they were like players on a stage.
@@illusion-xiii Exactly! But your interpretation is also correct, in my opinion. I think, Rio did mean to demonstrate that she was not imprisoned in the illusion and that Agatha's trip on the road would eventually end and she, Death, would be there, waiting. Ready to collect. 🪦
Oh the Road is VERY Real and that was a display of Death controlling reality. Billy made it real so it is real now. It just never existed until well now.
@@MintyMacha In a sense you are right! Billy can clearly do reality warp. But if he changes reality for other people, from their perspective it can be considered an illusion, something that shouldn't be there and differs from their original reality. For example as Agatha, I would claim I have a basement under my house, but momentarily if I peeked there, I would see Billy's remake of my reality, which would appear unreal to me - hence the term illusion.
But it's just semantics. We all know that it's not, in fact, an illusion set over reality, but rather reality reshaping itself according to Billy's wish.
I thought that’s just Aubrey Plaza doing out of script acting ngl
@@DemureTaffy 😁😁😁
I love how, in the very beginning she flat out stares The Witches Road doesn't exist, and this is one of the few true statements Agatha has made that we should have taken at face value.
@@alonzoruffin7358 Yep, like she's seeing that young kid and she doesn't want to kill him. So that's that. It doesn't exist. That's her answer.
she doesn't actually lie to billy a lot (if at all). billy's tarot reading of her was accurate in that regard, even if it wasn't what the trial required
She generally tells something approaching truth, but in a way that is like "if she said the sky was blue, I'd look up to check, then realise that meant I'd taken my eyes off her and was about to be stabbed"
"I wish we could go home."
"Bro you literally created this place."
Damn she really did know the whole time.
@@ShadowtheRonin She did, she did. 😁 And I wonder how she didn't roll her eyes all the time. 😂
She did not not say "bro you litterally created this place " that's not even what her look said her was " oh know you shouldn't wish for that, then I can't get what I want from the road" it's the same reason she was worried about him dying if he died they would either be trapped in the road with no further trials or the road would disappear.
Love how when she said "I didnt think you had it in you", it seemed she was talking to Sharon. But actually to Billy.
@@hardcandy9880 Yes, that one got me too. Like I had no idea why she winked at Billy until it all started to make sense eventually. 😶 That's a masterpiece scene right there for me.
I just presumed she didn’t think that Billy could dig a hole 😂
@@Zach90888 😂😂😂
I honestly thought it was just her talking to rio
I had no idea what she meant, cuz she was staring at the ground.
I like Agatha's tantrum in Ep.8 as well, "if you don't know, keep your mouth shut!", because she was afraid he'd mess up the hex by guessing.
The way she could've said everyone lived and made the road significantly less dangerous for all of them
She also could have helped Billy find Tommy without the road. The road wasn't even necessary for Billy to get what he wanted.
I’ve watched the show start to finish three times. The second viewing hits different now that you know the true nature of the road. But your edit here is great because I even missed some of them watching it three times.
Thank you very much. It also took me a few times rewatching to find them all (or hopefully all) 😁.
You should see -me in a crown- my face when Rio cut through the background and walk through it 😮
@@ratanasorn8080 Me too, my friend, me too. 😂
Also when Billy was was dying because of the glass in his stomach Agatha said “don’t” to Rio as in don’t take him because she’s death.
Agatha calling The Maximoffs dramatic and I'm like, it's take one to know one. 😂
Exactly. 😂 The pot calling the kettle black moment.
@@torak_editsI mean, maybe, but that's an incredibly black kettle. Agatha likes some drama, but compared to Wanda or Billy, she's practically demure.
Agatha: Are you shhhhhhhure? 🤨
@@conscientiousobjector5988 Kathryn Hahn is just phenomenal in those scenes, isn't she?
Now this is how you do a plot twist, right under your nose but just enough that you will feel that something was very off.
For a "witches' road" that has trials for each witches, the settings seems too modern. Like three out of the four real witches lived for centuries, you would think that the trials should be more ancient looking and something out of a dark creepy setting. But no, all we got was a fancy place, a music studio, a 90s vacation cabin, a reference to popular witches in media, and a weird morgue. Those are not something that witches who lived through centuries would be familiar to, its what someone who only knows witches on a shallow level. The only argument you can say about it at first is something like: "well disney wants to make popular references and tribute to classic witch medias and horrors". But it turns out it was just Billy who made the witches' road real, a teenager who was very obssessed with witches
This is what most writers don't understand. A plot twist isn't good because it surprises the audience. A plot twist is good when it happens and suddenly all the little puzzle pieces the audience was struggling with snap together into a complete picture. It's that feeling, not the surprise, that sticks with people.
before the last ep aired, I always wondered why the road was so stereotypical and whimsical like the road is so wizard of oz…. and then it actually had a reason why that is haha
It's literally a path to find a wish granter only for the wish granter to be illusion a pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Then just look Dorothy didn't even need the wizard to get home she had the rubby slippers since she got to oz. Billy didn't need the road to find Tommy he had Agatha all along.
Wasn’t there also a moment when Rio confronts Agatha about walking with another woman’s son on a road that doesn’t ex-?
@@theblurredlights Yes, there was! I have another part of that scene included in the video, because this particular part seemed too ambiguous for me to be a hint really. If Agatha had let Rio finish, then it would have been another thing. 😁
Agatha was truthfull all along ( to teen )
@@conmaxanhle123 She was, only he didn't get it at the time. 🥹
0:19 "But it will kill you" more like she will kill you
@@jello7177 😁 So true.
This was truly good tv! I hope Jac Schaeffer gets to write the Wanda solo movie.
@@simpleplanfan011 Agreed! Since Thor Love and Thunder I've become very careful about picking marvel movies or tv shows to watch, but I am very pleased with how this one turned out. 👍
My right ear loved this.
"am I?" she is amazing, Kathryn is already one of my fav artists
@@cogumelo6963 Mine too! 😁 She's awesome and fits the role so well.
right before she slices the wall open rio starts to say "on a road that doeesnt exist" but agatha cuts her off before she can finish. it really does hit different when you have the context of knowing he created it.
@@3r1u54 Yes! It's clear when you know what to listen for and have the context.
I thought the witches road sounded like a really dumb idea, the kind of plot convenience lazy writers include; and what do you know, that was the twist all long
@@Libertyfudge Definitely a worthy plot twist. Agreed!
One thing I still don't get is what was Agatha's original plan? She knew that Jen is bound and Sharon is not a witch. Plus she didn't want to kill Billy, but probably also didn't want to share her secret with him. AND she told Lilia that striking her allows her to steal their magic.
So if the door didn't appear, the only one who could strike her was Alice, if Lilia didn't stop her. And what would she do with the rest? Just kill them?
Maybe as a diversion?? From the "Salem Seven"?? Even if they don't have magic, those ladies would make excellent human shields🤔😳😂😂
I also think the reason she told Lillia about her magic absorbing ability was because Lillia has a mess up mind and tend to forgot things. I think she thought that would be just okay
She was desperate and needed witches quickly. And she only needed one of them to strike her. So she thought the only way to convince Lilia to go was to tell her that secret, but hoped that Lilia wouldn’t be able to warn the others in time. But she needed all of them to keep up the ruse that the road was real.
Watching it again, I don’t think she knew Jen was fully bound from the get go, I think she just kind of put it together as they went along and just kept quiet about it, or if she did know, it really didn’t matter to her immediate plan of not being murdered by the Salem 7. The way I saw it, I think she was really just kind of desperately making one last grab for anyones power knowing that the Salem 7 were about to be on her and these 4 were the only ones she had time to dupe. But, she needed all 4 there to trick them into falling for it given the context of the song and was just hoping that at least one would manage to blast her and give her time to escape and regroup/find other witches to steal from later. We constantly see Agatha bargain, scheme, lie, and act the second the situation turns and overall fly pretty off the cuff with her plans, so I like to think that her original goal here was just to buy more time the way she so often does and just kind of went with it when she realized Billy might actually be able to give her a bigger power boost if she played through his version of the road.
Because as she said in the car too Teen, even the most down and out witches can create a spark as a coven, which she could steal since she was so desperate for power, before the Salem Seven could reach her
Sharon was a non factor and put there for appearance cause she couldn’t steal Rio, but Agatha could have just killed her afterwards
Seriously how did I not see it before?! I feel so stupid 🤣
Don't be too harsh on yourself. :D We all missed some of those signs, if not all.
Doesn’t anyone find it strange that Agatha told Lilia the secret about her succubus powers?
That’s literally what spoiled her one ultimate goal in the beginning, why did she do that?
Agatha's good on her feet but has severe impulse control issues. Like Tony Stark.
It's the only reason they didn't end up killed by Agatha, unlike her previous victims. Lilia telling the other witches to not blast her made them live long enough to notice the door.
She needed Lilia to go so she would have enough witches to keep up the ruse, and for that, Lilia had to trust her, so she told Lilia that secret. But I guess she hoped Lilia wouldn’t warn the others in time
I honestly think she just put all her faith in thinking Lilia wouldn’t be able to resist trying to murder her. I mean, it never failed her before, even her own mother couldn’t resist the temptation
Whys the sound like this? It’s real unpleasant
What do you mean? The sound wasn't changed in any way from the original. I have literally just checked the sound of the video in comparison to Disney+. Might be a bit distorted because of youtube's upload, but that is what happens with every video. Nothing out of norm. Might be something on your side?
@@torak_editsthe dialogue is only in one ear, the right ear. The left ear only has music, the right has music and dialogue.
I really don’t think that’s how it sounds on Disney.
@@reedjos08 Oh, now I understand! I didn't listen to the audio through headphones only speakers (and there the problem is not so clear). I didn't use headphones before because I just wrongly assumed there could be nothing wrong with the sound since the files were high quality to begin with.
I have just now checked these files I worked with and they do have the problematic sound system you described embedded. My bad! Sorry! But thank you very much for pointing it out. I would like to create another videos about Rio, Agatha and Billy, so I will have to search for different files to work with.
Listen here’s a thought the witches road always exist but Agatha never had a true need for it until she lost her powers that’s one directions they could’ve went with the show
It is an interesting idea! But we have to also consider that in the show it seems like Agatha and Nicholas made the song up from scratch without any previous model (added more and more to it and modified it). And if they really did - then it would be a big coincidence that the Road really existed at that moment or longer.
This is an example of all fan fiction being terrible Billy is Wandas son. Wanda created the illusion of a sit com in West view she created three life forms from magic. Billy inherited her abilities and Billy created the witches road from magic. It was never real till he made it real. The witches road was a song Agatha's son her collaborated to make it was a lulabye she son to her son who she used to learn witches to her house to murder. Then after her son died she used to the song as a con to convince witches the witches road existed and could grant wishes. Only so she could kill them when the door which never existed didn't open.
Your version is absolutely terrible compared to the story we got. You should never write anything it will be garage.