So as a player that has been stuck for a while im gleaning these three main pillars to improvement. 1) tsumego 2)review games and set attainable goals from reviews 3) play alot of games. Im having a hard time devising goals from my review process. If you could make a video to demonstrate it could potentially help alot of us out. Thank you for the great content! We appreciate the work youve put in for the go community.
Congratulations on your achievement and thanks a lot for this insightful episode. I'd like to add my own story for comparison, as it may be instructive as a kind of half counterexample. I've been playing Go for 30 years (1994-5) and ever since 2001 I've been stuck at 2-3 dan. There's one similarity and many differences with your story. 1) the main similarity is that I made a major leap from 2k to 2d in the span of a few months, as a result of playing slow games, reviewing these thoroughly and do better next time. It also helped that I had a kind of rivalry back then, where we would apply a kadoban principle and I wanted to gain that stone fervently and likewise hold on to my lead which stabilized around 3 stones. 2) a major difference is that after a while, Go ceased to be my major passtime in life and I pursued many other interests, while playing the game in a more leisurely fashion 3) I also spent much more time discussing Go than playing it; that may be the nature of the beast. I enjoy debating but it doesn't help a lot with improvement 4) pure talent might play a role, especially in the reading department; in any case your starting out with "reading only" provided a very strong base for your future improvement; whether or not you are intrinsically stronger at reading, developing strong reading is an often understated aspect of strength; many of us are looking for the easy way to get to that professional ability of "not reading" and be super strong at blitz. 5) as an excuse I'd say that the Internet (servers, youtube, free sources of knowledge, AI!!!) wasn't around in those early days; my role model and instructor for the first few years was a 6kyu. That may have done some harm - idk. With 20+ years of bad low dan habits under the belt and a 50+ year old deteriorating brain I think any significant improvement might be impossible or require much more work than starting afresh in your early twenties - but that's the way of life. Very inspirational story still - thanks again!
This is such a cute video! You're a very good narrator of games, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that you're also a wonderful narrator of your journey across the goban . . .
I saw your games with Eunkyo on her channel, however your version of the story is easier to understand hence more inspiring. Thank you so much for telling your Go story.
Inspiring journey & enjoying following in your footsteps. I considered one of my strengths doing careful self reviews after every match and identifying 1-3 things to improve, but from your description of that step in this video it sounds like your approach is even more systematic and effective. It would be helpful to hear if you have any additional insights that worked particularly well for you in that process: How much detail would you go into on what needed to be improved? Would you write it down or some similar process to help remember it? Appreciate any tips you can share on how to do actionable self reviews.
I used to write things down more. I think it's very useful if you're not at the level of naturally memorizing your games yet. Nowadays I tend to replay the critical moment of a game in my head in the shower. As long as you limit yourself to no more than three things to learn per game, you can really nail something down and change your thought process.
I've pleateued at 2 dan on tygem for dozen years.. I reached that level at 12 and never really improved. And your story has suddenly inspired me to put effort to go further😊 Kudos from Korea
Absolutely wholesome overview and saga. I think we will all follow you along your path by growing and developing besides you. Keep it up and all of your Go-skills are really inspiring. Love!
what i found really interesting is that someone with the potential + interest level to be 9dan, was stuck at ridiculously low ranks for some amounts of time -- just because you didn't know what to do -- and then you found a path upward and suddenly 3dan
Congratulations on your great accomplishment! Can I ask what books/resources you liked and used as you developed? I am 6kyu and the only book I have is Attack and Defence. There are so many other books I’d love to look into and would appreciate your insight!
I didn't personally learn anything notable from books until I was mid dan. I'm really just hoping that my youtube pro game reviews make for good instructive content for kyu players nowadays!
"you have to be honest whit yourself about exactly what is the difference between you and the player you want to be" Bruh I want to be ke jie, but when I throw randoms stones on the goban, I have issues using them
@@telegraphgo It's so interesting, because I started playing 20 years ago, though never that many hrs. At my peak I played 1 hr a day, and reached 1k. So go has been a part of my life for a long time, but I never reached half the strength you did!
I'm currently covering the NA Chunlan Cup qualifier tournament! Whoever wins today and tomorrow gets a seat in the 24 player World Championship tournament and at least $2,000 (up to $150,000 for the champion!) Check it out at www.twitch.tv/badukclub
Very interesting to hear that such a strong player had the same plateau issues that most of us have. I always assumed you guys just flew to 1d and then started having trouble. Also, some of us are trying to fill that 17k gap!
You're doing a great job! I see you shouted out a bunch, and the BeginnerGo Discord server is also very supportive. I think there's still a lot of room to go to make the game more accessible for beginners, though :D
It would be too much to include everything I did on the journey from mid dan to 9dan, it was many years. But fundamentally it was all about noticing something about me that should be better if I were a 9dan and making it better. Rinse and repeat for every type of position in Go. I'll naturally be including as many of those insights in the rest of my videos as I can!
So as a player that has been stuck for a while im gleaning these three main pillars to improvement.
1) tsumego
2)review games and set attainable goals from reviews 3) play alot of games.
Im having a hard time devising goals from my review process.
If you could make a video to demonstrate it could potentially help alot of us out.
Thank you for the great content!
We appreciate the work youve put in for the go community.
Congratulations on your achievement and thanks a lot for this insightful episode. I'd like to add my own story for comparison, as it may be instructive as a kind of half counterexample.
I've been playing Go for 30 years (1994-5) and ever since 2001 I've been stuck at 2-3 dan. There's one similarity and many differences with your story.
1) the main similarity is that I made a major leap from 2k to 2d in the span of a few months, as a result of playing slow games, reviewing these thoroughly and do better next time. It also helped that I had a kind of rivalry back then, where we would apply a kadoban principle and I wanted to gain that stone fervently and likewise hold on to my lead which stabilized around 3 stones.
2) a major difference is that after a while, Go ceased to be my major passtime in life and I pursued many other interests, while playing the game in a more leisurely fashion
3) I also spent much more time discussing Go than playing it; that may be the nature of the beast. I enjoy debating but it doesn't help a lot with improvement
4) pure talent might play a role, especially in the reading department; in any case your starting out with "reading only" provided a very strong base for your future improvement; whether or not you are intrinsically stronger at reading, developing strong reading is an often understated aspect of strength; many of us are looking for the easy way to get to that professional ability of "not reading" and be super strong at blitz.
5) as an excuse I'd say that the Internet (servers, youtube, free sources of knowledge, AI!!!) wasn't around in those early days; my role model and instructor for the first few years was a 6kyu. That may have done some harm - idk.
With 20+ years of bad low dan habits under the belt and a 50+ year old deteriorating brain I think any significant improvement might be impossible or require much more work than starting afresh in your early twenties - but that's the way of life.
Very inspirational story still - thanks again!
This is such a cute video! You're a very good narrator of games, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that you're also a wonderful narrator of your journey across the goban . . .
I saw your games with Eunkyo on her channel, however your version of the story is easier to understand hence more inspiring. Thank you so much for telling your Go story.
Inspiring journey & enjoying following in your footsteps. I considered one of my strengths doing careful self reviews after every match and identifying 1-3 things to improve, but from your description of that step in this video it sounds like your approach is even more systematic and effective. It would be helpful to hear if you have any additional insights that worked particularly well for you in that process: How much detail would you go into on what needed to be improved? Would you write it down or some similar process to help remember it? Appreciate any tips you can share on how to do actionable self reviews.
I used to write things down more. I think it's very useful if you're not at the level of naturally memorizing your games yet. Nowadays I tend to replay the critical moment of a game in my head in the shower. As long as you limit yourself to no more than three things to learn per game, you can really nail something down and change your thought process.
I've pleateued at 2 dan on tygem for dozen years.. I reached that level at 12 and never really improved. And your story has suddenly inspired me to put effort to go further😊 Kudos from Korea
Absolutely wholesome overview and saga. I think we will all follow you along your path by growing and developing besides you. Keep it up and all of your Go-skills are really inspiring. Love!
what i found really interesting is that someone with the potential + interest level to be 9dan, was stuck at ridiculously low ranks for some amounts of time -- just because you didn't know what to do -- and then you found a path upward and suddenly 3dan
A month.
Great video and story, thanks for sharing
Congratulations on your great accomplishment!
Can I ask what books/resources you liked and used as you developed? I am 6kyu and the only book I have is Attack and Defence. There are so many other books I’d love to look into and would appreciate your insight!
I didn't personally learn anything notable from books until I was mid dan. I'm really just hoping that my youtube pro game reviews make for good instructive content for kyu players nowadays!
@@telegraphgo That is interesting thank you! I only recently discovered your channel so I will be sure to watch them :).
Amazing story! 👍
"you have to be honest whit yourself about exactly what is the difference between you and the player you want to be" Bruh I want to be ke jie, but when I throw randoms stones on the goban, I have issues using them
Quite the spectacular rise. Are you aiming at becoming an AGA pro in the future?
Yup I already played in 2 pro quals and learned a lot, time to win the next one surely :D
@@telegraphgo Dope. We will be cheering for you! Good Luck!
Nex up 1P! 😜
what age did you start playing?
17
How many hrs a day did you spend on Go?
maybe average of 3-4 hours per day? obviously more sometimes, less sometimes
@@telegraphgo It's so interesting, because I started playing 20 years ago, though never that many hrs. At my peak I played 1 hr a day, and reached 1k. So go has been a part of my life for a long time, but I never reached half the strength you did!
Woah I didn't know you got stuck at 17k! That's pretty long journey
I'm currently covering the NA Chunlan Cup qualifier tournament! Whoever wins today and tomorrow gets a seat in the 24 player World Championship tournament and at least $2,000 (up to $150,000 for the champion!) Check it out at www.twitch.tv/badukclub
Very interesting to hear that such a strong player had the same plateau issues that most of us have. I always assumed you guys just flew to 1d and then started having trouble. Also, some of us are trying to fill that 17k gap!
You're doing a great job! I see you shouted out a bunch, and the BeginnerGo Discord server is also very supportive. I think there's still a lot of room to go to make the game more accessible for beginners, though :D
🐐 👍
Who is the guy (not nick sibisky), i cant find him
Battsgo
(Dwyrin)
@@telegraphgo thank you
What was the tsumego site you mentioned at 6:11? I would like to try it out
www.goproblems.com/ and www.101weiqi.cn/
Thanks so much man. Love your content. Keep up the good work.@@telegraphgo
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I don't know. It sounds kinda simplistic. It doesn't seem like what you really did to reach that level
It would be too much to include everything I did on the journey from mid dan to 9dan, it was many years. But fundamentally it was all about noticing something about me that should be better if I were a 9dan and making it better. Rinse and repeat for every type of position in Go. I'll naturally be including as many of those insights in the rest of my videos as I can!