I’ve seen a few people comment these things but just to reiterate. Not being able to choose your appetizer/entree/etc is very common in high end restaurants - pre fixed menus are the norm in high end restaurants. The amuse Bouche that you didn’t like probably contained cilantro - which to some people tastes like soap. The silverware change for dessert is very common, so you don’t “taste the dinner” on your spoon while eating dessert. Gold silverware is preferred because it has less of an aftertaste than silver. As for why the server hovered, that’s traditional French service. Serving the French way has VERY specific rules about what the server has to do. (No fingers on top of the plates, the plates have to be set down and picked up on specific sides, etc) - and one of those rules is that he’s expected to wait behind you in case you need something.
Exactly. I really don’t know why they went. I grew up with humble beginnings though blessed now…I learned early on always walk into a room with your head held high and not insecure like you don’t belong.
Thanks for the review. I don’t really have a problem with the unknown menu, BUT I think it’s unacceptable that they made you guys feel bad for not ordering alcohol. There could be so many reasons someone doesn’t want to drink, including being in recovery for alcoholism (not that you are, but you could be for all that waiter knows)!
A *halfway decent* server would have prepared you/asked if you do not like cilantro, spicy food, have allergies, etc. What's with the staff's fake "fraunch" accents? I speak multiple languages, there's NO NEED for that ridiculous, unintelligible fake "fraunch" accent. The Chef seems... new? Refusing to customize/dictating a RIGID menu for a high-end restaurant? 🤷 That seems so... cafeteria "chef". Serving pre-made portions, with zero live prep, and zero flexibility/substitutions in not being a "Chef". The over use of FAD foods (edible flowers, foam... and let me guess... smoking dishes, "popping" foods, etc?) and not focussing on simple high quality ingredients (like genuine Wagu beef), customization, and good preparation... Red flag. It's a FRENCH restaurant? WHERE'S THE FRENCH DISHES? The pretentious change of silverware/napkins prior to dessert was just a ridiculous empty gesture - theatrics - to cover up the poor quality food. High quality dining is centered around the CUSTOMER. How sad. What a rip-off.
6:20 That appetizer that tasted like soap: if the "herbs" contained cilantro, it's possible you and koda have that gene that makes cilantro taste different than for other people. My sister and I have it.
Thank you - how does someone know what dishwater taste like? I've heard Cilantro tastes like soap to those people - sad if they know what that tastes like
@@misstdot4780 When I was little, if I said a cuss word, my parents would wash my mouth out with soap. It's not just a southern saying lmbo its real. I also have the gene that makes cilantro taste like soap, its horrid lol
I’ve only been hearing negative reviews from the vloggers I watch that have gone to Enchante for both brunch and dinner. And one of the vloggers in particular does fine dining a lot and has eaten at Remy several times on the other cruise ships too. So I think your experience is very valid and similar to what other people have been experiencing too. It’s super disappointing. I hope Disney will course correct quickly! All of you being so honest is very helpful because I know someone at Disney is watching these review videos! Hopefully they figure it out!
@@sethschroeder I think it’s definitely different from the other ships for sure and will take some time to get used to it. I’m hoping with some adjustments that we’ll all enjoy it as much as the others though. I’m not counting it out yet! Especially not before I experience it for myself too. I’ve got my fingers crossed for it!🤞🏼
Other than the horrible Enchante brunch DClub review I dont see that - reviews from people who ENJOY haute couture fine dining have been wonderful and going forward I expect more positive reviews will come out. Disney isn't going to change up what they've spent so much money to create and they want that Star!
@@misstdot4780 reduction in size of adult area, the removal of teens area with own pool area, removal of area for all guests on top deck only for concierge, inside stateroom layout of barely getting past couch, the subpar "attraction" that will have a long line, only 3/4 day sailings, and on and on. If you don't think there has been negatives go and look. It's still DCL so people will have a good time but you are paying a premium because it's new not because it's the best ship.
@@sethschroeder I was specifically speaking about Enchante - I agree that the adults only area is ridiculously small and the hot tub in a idiotic place. I'm going for the Castaway Challenge cruise in Jan and have no choice as far as that - thats the ship its on now. They have run the numbers and Chapek wants Concierge guests and large rich families who vacation big but not often to Disney/Cruise. It's his model and until he's gone we won't get anything better. He doesn't care about adult fans of average income who frequent Disney.
This review is all wrong. My mom and I Just got off the Wish and it was amazing. WE LOVED enchante brunch and dinner and are 1000% booking them on our future cruises. It is obvious you don't do fine dining, and do not know how to appreciate it.
Budgeting is not choosing the most expensive dining experience either, Just order what you like if you want to enjoy your food, and look into what you're ordering before you select it. I also loved the staff, Ryan was amazing along with the chef and their assistant/head servers. You also are saying be honeycomb dish was a course which it WAS NOT. I did not get the 195 passion experience and recieved that dish. IT IS A PALLET CLEANSER. this is ridiculous watching this.
It sounds like you just have no experience with this kind of dining and you are giving them a bad review for it. It’s a you problem not a them problem.
I’ve eaten at several upscale restaurants, including a couple where I get to know the chef/owner. I did trust them to serve me without ordering and sometimes got surprises (like frogs legs). But I was never disappointed. But I’m afraid I wouldn’t have made it past the opening encounter here. If a waiter has attitude because I tell him I don’t want alcohol, that’s where we part company. He doesn’t get any tip and the restaurant misses out on my business. I won’t pay to have someone look down their nose at me. There has to be someplace on a ship that size where you can get an impromptu dinner even if you are dressed up. And if they tried to make me pay for leaving the reservation, there would be he$$ to pay.
I agree he should have tried to make them feel more comfortable as they were not enjoying things but most Frenchpersons or Italians would be shocked to hear that someone doesn't drink wine - it's such a part of their dining culture.
Honestly you made it sound like you went into this blind and was expecting something totally different, which is why you didn’t like it. Even tho you painted a bad picture it makes me really want to try this one day.
The review we didn't know we needed. I have honestly never enjoyed a dining review so much. I feel for you. You tried something new and it was so pretentious, it ruined the experience.
If you think Michelin Star level haute couture cuisine and dining is pretentious then of course you won't enjoy this experience - I wish he had done more research before judging this based on his own unfamiliarity of ingredients and portion size.
@@mexicanamerican21 LOL imagine thinking you’re a baller cruising on a Disney ship when actual ballers like myself cruise NCL’s The Haven on newer ships like the PR1MA 🤣
I love your honest review and can only repeat what others have said. I'm not a fan of "fine dining" and don't drink wine or champagne either. But you know what? Good on you for expanding your world experiences and even stepping out of your comfort zone to give something new a try. I can't wait for more videos!!
Wild to me that any server would be offended by someone choosing not to have wine. Hypothetically if y’all were on a sobriety Journey. That judgement could be really dangerous
This a very true statement. There are also illnesses, conditions, and medications that can make it as dangerous as many food allergies. Also religious reasons. While those are all serious considerations, there is also nothing wrong with just not wanting to drink alcohol at whatever time for whatever reason.
Yup! There are many physical reasons to not drink, but also there are people who just don't enjoy drinking for no reason but they don't like it. I am 100% free and clear to drink, I just have no desire to. I get really hot (which I despise being hot. I could live in an igloo) and that makes me uncomfortable. At 24 years old I will order a virgin drink over an alcoholic one anyday - This kind of judgement is something I get a lot (Not usually from staff though) So you don't need to have a reason to not drink, just not wanting to is reason enough. With that being said, the waiter was French and French people drink at like 6 months old (kidding) but I was in Paris when I was 9 or 10 and I was offered champagne at lunch in the Eiffle Tower. It's just their culture - however that doesn't warrant the waiter making someone feel uncomfortable for their choice to remain sober, that just may be where the confusion/rudeness comes from.
I have never laughed so hard at a review because I could so relate!! We were on your Alaska sailing then again on the same Wish sailing! Thoroughly enjoy your videos, and keep rocking those Shirley Temples!! 👍🏼
I’m sorry that you had a terrible experience at the restaurant However, I just want to shine some light into some of the critics that you brought up. The concept of Omakase (chef surprise meal) is from Japan and has been very popular with a lot of fine dining restaurants as of late. The idea behind this is the chef will use his/her expert experience in deciding what dishes are the best for that day and serve that to you. You are paying the high price to get a taste of what suppose to be the best and freshest ingredients the restaurant get their hand on for that day In regard to flowers and foam, alot of these fine dining restaurant serve meal that is suppose to challenge and enhance all of your senses and not only your taste buds. It is an experience as a whole rather than just a meal. It might not be for everyone but that is just the expected standard for this kind of restaurant Lastly, in regard to the waiter just stand right behind you, he isn’t there to judge you but to simply doing his job. A lot of these fine dining expected their waiter to be in constants present to their guests and available immediately to serve or answer anything their guests may have. “Waiting” for your server to show up is consider a bad service for a lot of these guests at fine dining restaurants
Thank you! Well said. I haven’t been on the Wish, but have dined at both Remy and Palo several times, and I absolutely loved Remy. I would enjoy this restaurant too.
Such a bummer! My girls and I watched this and literally said “it looks like dish soap bubbles” and laughed when you said the same thing. We look forward to your Palo review. We were on the 3 day with you and Koda but didn’t try any of the upcharge restaurants. I also knew what kind of microwaveable meat you were talking about under the salad. Only having half a lobster tail would make me sad too! My husband and I have eaten at nice restaurants and have never seen so many flowers in one meal. Thanks for the review!
We have dined at Remy twice. The first was just after getting married aboard the ship. I definitely allowed them to choose what food to bring. I also refused wine because it really makes it hard to taste the food in my opinion (not a popular one, I know). I stuck with water. If something came that my wife did not like, she would give it to me. But I am very sure that if I told them, "This is not to her liking" they would bring her something else. Our second time eating a Remy, my wife and daughter left half way through the multiple dessert course to get to a show. The serving staff felt bad about it and ended up sending me off with several boxes of desserts for them to have post-show. I know why you feel awkward, and it was ok. They should have made you feel more comfortable. As for Enchante.... it feels like a poor imitation of Remy from what I have seen. But I reserve judgement for now.
The foam is suppose to add some flavor to the dish without the heaviness of added sauces. It’s used a lot in multi-course tastings so that you don’t get full from sauce-ladened dishes. Plus it’s different and looks interesting. Same for the flowers… they’re a garish to make the dish look pretty, but you can eat them and they are milder in flavor than a sprig of parsley that most people never eat.
Oh, bless you guys. I would have felt so uncomfortable!! That foam on dessert looked like soap suds. I guess I'm just too plain for that hoity toity food. Sorry it was so expensive. It's so sweet though that you wanted to give Koda such a special treat. You guys are precious together. Did you go eat pizza after? I would have been starving!! You were brave to try something new❤️❤️
I grew up struggling too, but have had some wonderful opportunities to do fine dining as an adult. My French instructor brought us to a very expensive French restaurant so we could learn how to eat if we went to Paris (yes really). This is par for the course for French dining. Very different from the American version of fine dining. I've always felt super awkward at these types of restaurants. Monsieur Paul in Epcot is much the same, but they at least understand the audience a little more. Either way, it's nice you did it and now you can say you did, and you don't ever have to spend that kind of money to be uncomfortable again.
Foam has been a trend in fine dining for a few years now. The idea is that you can add unique flavors to a dish without adding bulk or different textures. In my experience they are mostly good, but some people can't stand the texture.
Thank you for such an HONEST review! I grew up in the same world as you, and as I have been saving and budgeting out my Wish trip next year I have tossed the idea of trying this restaurant back n forth. After this review, I will most definitely be spending my $500 on an enjoyable experience. My fiance and I would feel the same way sitting at the table, out of place and awkward as hell. As much as I thought I wanted to feel a part of the 1% for a night, I quickly realized after not only your review but others, this experience is absolutely not for me. Love the videos and the honesty! Keep up the great content!
While I don’t consider myself wealthy, I do come from a more comfortable area of the Country. This restaurant is trying WAY to hard to be high end. Adrian, no matter the cost, you get to define your dinner! Send it back or ask more questions! NEVER pay for so called ‘high class’ if YOU don’t see it as elegant! You’re worth respect!
Your opinion about the food is valid, does not sounds like your type of thing. But the soda complaint? If you go to mcdonalds and order 100 big macs and a sprite, do you get upset you're charged for the sprite because you just bought 100 big macs?
Pro tip from a non-drinker. If you are ever in that situation again? Tell them you are allergic to alcohol. On another channel (Disney Dining) one of the hosts has 36 years of sobriety and they served him a dessert with alcohol in it at that restaurant.
I laughed my butt off when you said "pinky-up people!" I can so relate to your experience here. I would not have even known HOW to eat the food when it arrived! I would have been the girl eating the decorative garnish.....
The napkin/silverware changing... most high end restaurants will clear away everything from the table and bring you new napkins and silverware for dessert. You don't want to use the same place settings as dinner for dessert. I think it was awesome that you wanted to try a new experience. I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you were expecting. Its a big risk ordering a meal not on the menu. Probably should have order the individual items from the menu. Soda is not included on the cruise. Of course they charged you!
@Its me Stacey soda is included on a Disney Cruise. I het Shirley Temples in the included dining rooms quite often and have never paid. There are actually 24 hour stations to get your soda coffee tea etc. for yourself.
@@iluvcruising Yes, I know. I have cruised Disney several times. I too get soda in the main dining room. But this wasn't one of the dining rooms. There is no beverage dispenser (soda machine) in Disneys upscale restaurant on the ship. Its the same when I go to Mastro's steakhouse or any fine dining. They do not have those machines and they serve you soda from a glass bottle. Again, I understand he was not used to fine dining but a little bit of research even just on Google goes a long way.
Thank you for providing us one of the most genuine and honest reviews I have seen. I really appreciate it. Disney Wish and Disney Treasure are on my bucket list, but I love traveling on Disney Wonder and Disney Magic. My wife and I have been to a few places like that before. You really have to have a taste for that type of cooking. I probably wouldn't have touched my food. I would have run to the bar, grabbed a beer, gone to Cabanas, a double cheeseburger, and returned to the bar because I had finished my first beer. This time, I would get two beers: one for me and one for the waiter watching me eat the cheeseburger. Sit down to watch my wife enjoy the foam I got just for her.
We love Remy. We love the surprises and the wine pairings and the champagne pairings. Watching this, The restaurant seems very cold. No tablecloths, which makes sound echo more. I love the dark woods, the tablecloths, the elegance of Remy. This restaurant doesn't have the same feel. Some of the dishes in your review we have had at Remy before. You have to just open your mind and enjoy what they have presented in front of you, because it's something you would never ever be able to get at home. We like that. I realize it's not for everyone. But very great that you were willing to try!
Hey Adrian, I LOVE watching the video’s!! I originally only watched the Disney Cruise videos because I love Disney cruises. But one day I decided to give Theme park videos a try and now I can’t stop watching them!! You’ve gotten me more into Theme park!! Thank you for all you do and keep up the good work!!!!
I have eaten at some very upscale restaurants as an adult but this is truly beyond pretentious. Thank you for reviewing so I won’t have an FOMO for not having a reservation.
As someone who doesn't drink I can totally understand how you both felt out of place. As always I appreciate your honesty. My heart broke hearing your disappointment in some of these dishes especially the wagyu dish. If you do try Remy sometime I hope it's a better experience.
I’m sorry you did not enjoy your experience . I’m going to say this as delicate as I do not want to offend but if your going to pay that amount of money you should maybe do some research so you know what you are getting into . This is what fine dining is about. You said you don’t drink wine and would rather have had tap water? And you paid $500 ….. you may as well have drank the imported water… I’m sorry but I think had you done more research you could’ve had either a better experience or just skipped it altogether……
I totally understand your frustration but this is what that level of dining experiences are. I think if you got to go through a “fine dining” experience/behind the scenes then your questions or confusion would be cleared up. All the things you discussed have specific purpose and reasoning.
Thanks for the heads up! We are going on the Wish on Monday and was considering this restaurant but have heard negative reviews about the food and the service. I’m so glad that you gave such an honest review of both good and bad experiences you’ve had. I also liked the way you broke down each dish afterwards so you had time to fully go into detail about each part instead of trying to do it during the meal
Kudos for you for trying it out! Such a sweet idea for Koda. Pity you didn't enjoy it. I however enjoyed watching the video. Putting down huge amounts of hard earned cash for a tasting menu can be incredibly daunting. I've experienced some amazing fancy tasting menus and also some incredibly disappointing ones too. Also with that hefty price tag you expect the setting and service to be top notch too. Unfortunately it seems you got a snobby judging waiter which is a shame. I really dislike those kinds of places. You can be fancy fine dining and still make your customers feel welcome and at ease (in fact that should be the main goal). But yes, don't be discouraged by this experience! There are good fine dining restaurants out there :) And thank you for inadvertently making the funniest Enchanté review I've seen so far. Also foam is nasty and I'm so over it!!
Disney’s signature dining has always been 100% a la carte pricing. Because they don’t offer drink packages like other ships you’re forced to pay even more for alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks. I cruise NCL because of their Free at Sea deal which includes the premium drink package in the cruise fare. For an extra $200 I could upgrade that to premium plus and add unlimited top shelf liquor and Starbucks if I wanted. Disney’s idea of all-inclusive is quite different from the industry standard.
It’s clear you are an authentic person and I’m sorry you had a horrible experience. Know that as your channel grows, the $500 will be a pittance of a memory; however, the value of this review is priceless and eternal. Thank you for taking the courageous risk with your palette and pocketbook! Any and EVERY experience is YOURS to have and hold, call it as you perceived it! Gratitude for putting yourself out there. You got this!!!!
I too would've felt outta place at Enchante, not because of them insisting we should order wine which I don't mind, but because I'm a Vegan that also grew up struggling financially and their menu doesn't look Vegan friendly at all.
Honestly I have not seen one review saying you’re uncultured because this review was very much valid. Thanks for helping us save money for when we decide to go!
Thank you for the honest review! I’ve heard the same things from other vloggers. I’m not sure why you were surprise they charge from your drink. As for clearing all the silverware and setting new set before dessert is common in “fine” dinning. If the servers is from France I’m sure he couldn’t comprehend why you wouldn’t have wine with your meal. As they have a glass (or bottle) of wine on lunch break. I can’t wait to for your next video! And I really enjoyed this format :))
I'm not sure if anyone else has pointed it out, but that Wagyu beef that you had was most likely American Wagyu, and not Japanese Wagyu, which is the highest quality that most people hear about. I know this because looking at the menu, they were selling that particular dish for about $45. There is no place where you can get Japanese Wagyu for that cheap, unfortunately. It's a very expensive cut of beef. Many restaurants actually lie about having Wagyu, just so they can charge you more, and most people wouldn't exactly notice. I haven't really tried Japanese Wagyu myself, but they definitely weren't serving you that. I don't blame you for being disapppointed in that.
From what I've seen, it looks like it's from Australia, which is probably even worse since it has to travel farther and not as fresh. Probably would have been better to go American or a more common type of cut found in France.
I really appreciate your honest review. I get the impression that DCL wants to compete with other luxury liners by including high end French restaurants with Michelin level chefs but It’s not for everyone. I can’t drink alcohol either so thanks for being so brave and giving us your review!
I would of done the same thing as you, I would of wanted to try it just to experience it. However, based on the menu, I would hardly know what to order. I would of also felt extremely awkward. I’d rather spend my $ on something else. Thank you for this video and your honesty.
Just FYI, if you do the wine or champagne pairing at that type of restaurant aboard one of the Disney cruise ships they bring out a different one, wine or champagne, with each course. They tell you and show you what it is and then explain why it’s being paired with that particular course. Some of the wines and champagnes can be very expensive per bottle. Just a glass, which is a lot less amount than some think, can be shockingly expensive. If you like wine or champagne, I personally think it’s worth it but others think it’s not. They feel just getting a bottle of your favorite one is the way to go. Also, if you get a mocktail or some other types of non-alcoholic beverages you are probably going to be charged for them. In restaurants such as those nothing is ever for free.
I’m not into fine dining either. My partner and I went for the first time in a year after having a baby, to an upscale restaurant (we were given a gift voucher, not our choice) and the second we walked in I felt so out of place and uncomfortable. They scoffed when I turned down wine and asked for lemonade and the server nearly fell over when I asked for my steak medium-well. Was the worst experience ever and we just wanted to eat and get the hell out of the place. I’m sorry you paid so much for an awful experience
just so you know, the crispy first course isn't crispy bees wax, that's inside the the bowl, the crumbly thing is just a tuile made from apparently rice flour and is just meant to add another texture your dish.
Thank you for the honest review. That said this is very consistent with very fine dining - while it's a meal it's equally or more so supposed to be an experience. It can be intimidating and it really isn't for everyone - and that's ok. Many of your criticisms are actually because the dishes and meal as a whole are meant to hit all senses including visually appealing - hence flowers and foam and colors and other gastro molecular techniques and serving ware and size of courses - you need to think of it as art. Also these aren't gluttonous, crazy portion meals. I would say at the end of the day this isn't really a fair review of the restaurant bc it's not your style of food. Similar to someone trying to review a Mexican restaurant but not liking Mexican food. Best part of this review is many people who assume Disney = for everyone can watch and know what they are getting themselves in to and make their own call. Me, I'm excited to try it out when on the Wish (but that's because i enjoy these types of experiences). I also enjoy Palo but it's apples and oranges to this type of experience.
Im sorry but its not fine dining to just trow flowers or foam on everything... Its more like a parody of fine dining, just as the waiter with the French accent. Fine dining, or at least modern fine dining is not about bells and whistles at all. Its about the ingredients, how they are sourced, grown, raised etc. Its about local produce made with love and care so you get your moneys worth with things you cant just buy in the supermarket. Just go fine dining in Spain for example: They are so proud of their meats, what they are fed, which breed they are, how long the meat is aged. A lot of top class restaurants have their own gardens or private relations to local farms to make sure the ingredients are exactly up to their standards. I rarely heard the waiter explain what they were actually eating and where it was from. If you have an entire tomato course... it better be a darn special tomato. Where is it from, why is it special, why am I paying so much for it? Nope, not a single explanation, it was just "a tomato". "Wagyu beef" can mean anything, wagyu is literally the word for beef in Japanese so completely meaningless. The only thing they explained was the caviar, because of course there had to be caviar, the hallmark of fine dining, right? :D I dont want to be harsh, but if you charge your guests these kind of prices and pretend to be some sort of French high-end place... act like one instead of cosplaying as one.
I don't drink either and I'd have been super annoyed with that server, people don't drink for a variety of reasons and it's not on the wait staff to judge the guest. Mocktails have also become pretty popular over the last few years for this reason (if you're ever in Maine, swing by Vena's Fizz House!) This is also why I'd prefer to go to a nice Japanese restaurant over a French restaurant. The food is just as delicious with lovely presentation, but without the stressful atmosphere. I can't relax in fine French or Italian restaurants the way I can in my favorite nice sushi place.
Totally appreciate your honest review and so sorry for your experience. We totally understand feeling awkward in some places and feeling judged for not wanting wine or champagne. We sometimes get that because we don’t really drink. Look forward to the next video with your better experience.
Hi, my fiancé and I were actually dining at Enchanté in the booth behind your table on 7/25, it was our engagement dinner. While we thoroughly enjoyed our dining experience, I am sorry that it was not the same for you. 😕
Hello! We enjoyed having you guys behind us! You both sounded like I were having the best time! Btw when I said we could hear people chewing it wasn’t directed at you it was the people who were behind my gf at the table next to us in the window lol. But we’re so happy you enjoyed your experience and congratulations!
Just have to comment because I cracked up when you said "they plopped a little thing of suds there on the plate" !! I have watched a few of your videos now and just subscribed. Thanks for keeping it real-love your personality 🙂
Don't feel bad about the French attitude. Often, French professionals in the restaurant business play up to the expected, arrogant stereotype. People who are snobs about fine dining feel reassured by this, so it's part of the experience. Keep in mind this dude is on a Disney cruise; I think he's overcompensating. Chef's menus are an expression of the chef's ego. Usually gross. There is a quickly aging trend to "deconstruct" food, often by freezing and making foam expressions of foods. It's trendy. An "amuse bouche" literally means mouth teaser. Not an official course. Just FYI That was not Wagyu beef. Wagyu beef has visible dots of fat. 😒 There are less than 5 places in the US where actual Wagyu beef is served. Changing the color of napkin was theatre to make you feel better about what you paid. It's normal to clear and replace flatware before dessert, but the napkin flourish was ridiculous. Were the foreign waters an extra charge?
If I grew up eating food like that and then went to an expensive restaurant and was served fries, a burger, pizza, chocolate brownie with vanilla ice cream, I’d be blown away! Lol. I don’t care how “cultured” you are, this is a waste of $$, not worth it. You need to blow me away for $195. Also, Charged for a fountain drink $2 when you pay $400?? They should be EMBARRASSED. Take that disgusting tomato water and give me a coke please, and don’t stand behind me and don’t roll your eyes mr waiter, thank you! OK rant over LOL. Thanks for the honest review. Enjoying all your cruise coverage. The best Wish VLOGs I’ve seen yet. You show your experience from the viewpoint of regular people and not from someone who is a millionaire concierge only guy or a straight up fake media influencer. Thank you. God bless!
A dinner like this, should be fun and enjoyable and never rushed. That said, I can't believe they made you feel uncomfortable, that is unacceptable. Any Bartender (especially in a restaurant like this should know how to make every drink even a Shirley Temple or Roy Roger). As for them charging you for the drinks, sadly drinks are never included, but I agree for the price it should have been. With this type of dinner a lot of it has to do with the 'show' so them changing out the utensils and napkins is pretty normal (even for desert with the type of utensils, it can also do with what they are serving, some metals will affect the taste of food, or so I've been told). What they will also do is give you a napkin that goes with what you are wearing, (ex. if you are wearing a dark color they will give you a black napkin. If you are wearing a light color they will give you a white napkin). I'm not a fan of chef tasting menu/meal because you end up with stuff that you may not like, and I'm picky. One thing I will share as in my mind the experience should be similar (especially for Disney). Is my husband and I have eaten at Club 33 several times and we are always made to feel welcome even though we are not 'fancy'. They will explain the menu and if there is every anything that we don't like or can't eat they will ask and we will tell them which makes the experience all the better). I'm surprised they didn't do that with you. I'm glad some of the dinner was enjoyable for you both. I know you said you wouldn't do it again and I get it, however maybe try it again in the future. I bet the experience will be different and you may enjoy it. As for the flower petals and the foam that is the chef showing off (all about the presentation) remember we eat with our sight and our smell so some of these extra touches are all about the other senses. Which I can take or leave. I wish this was a better experience for the both of you. We thought you both looked so cute all dressed up and seeing how excited you were to go there and treat yourselves was wonderful to see, I only wish you had a better time. Can't wait to see your Palo Brunch we love Palo so hopefully that made up for it.
I completly agree with your comment, its unaccaptable to make people feel unconfortable when they spend so much money to enjoy a spécial diner. And they should have ask for their taste/allergy etc...even for a suprise diner (im french so i hope my english is good enough but anyway i agree with you 100%) :)
The fact they finish so many of the dishes at the table would be so awkward for me. And I would be so upset if I spent 500 on a meal that I didn't like half the dishes
You might want to give flowers another try. Different flowers have different flavours similarly to how the fruits, nuts, seeds, and vegetables they will eventually become have different flavours. Different struggle backgrounds have different experiences with whether or not we eat flowers. Urban struggling families probably wouldn't, but farm struggling families absolutely will, because it's using all that you have instead of throwing things away. For example, when growing zucchinis you want to remove the smaller flowers and only leave the biggest, healthiest flower per vine stem. Instead of throwing those flowers away you fry them up with some butter, salt and pepper, and serve them on top of a young greens salad: delicious! Sometimes you companion plant flowers next to your vegetables to keep certain bugs away from certain crops, so why not also eat those flowers, since taking the flowers off is often a way to force more blooms? Nasturtiums are especially delicious, kind of spicy like peppers. You can often find these things at spring and early summer farmers' markets. Many people also like violets, but I don't care for them myself, I find them too cloying, and it looks like a lot of the dishes you had had violets on them. I'm pretty sure the foam trend is just because it's really hard from a technical perspective. I don't think there are too many people who enjoy the texture, and I think most people will be happy when restaurants stop bragging about their technical prowess by making food that people don't like.
Many congratulations on a super honest review! Pleased to know that you have the true courage to stand up for your rights to both a decent meal and actual value for your hard earned RUclipsr money. Whereas it would seem that you got caught up in the classic story and similarity of The Emperor Who Had No Clothes and whereupon the restaurant attempted to convince you were eating actual food. NOT!!! Time to contact your Credit Card Company.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your honest review. My wife and I had high hopes for Enchanté but after seeing this, we quickly agreed to cancel our reservation in October. For that amount of money, we could spend it on so many more enjoyable experiences. Thank you again, $500 worth ❤️
I'm so sorry if this comes out wrong, but I was cracking up throughout this review. I'm so with you. I thought this was hilarious because it was so relatable. Thanks for letting us know this is not for everyone.
The greens on the amuse-bouche you hated looks like cilantro. A lot of people have a smell receptor gene that picks up the scent of aldehyde which is in cilantro and is used in soap making. The gene picking up on the scent tricks your brain into thinking cilantro tastes like soap because it smells like soap. That's why cilantro tastes soapy to a lot of people.
My husband and I sailed on the Dream in May and decided we wanted to try Remy and this is exactly how we felt! It didn’t feel like these restaurants are designed for the average cruiser :( Palo on the Dream was soooo much better, the theming here looks amazing but I agree that for the prices, you have to be used to this kind of dining in order to really enjoy it I think :(
This is why they have both a experience for whatever suit’s people I hope to try Remy for the first time in October 2023. Did they brunch, plus also Palo Brunch and Dinner. Remy dinner next
These aren't designed for the average cruiser - it was designed by a three star Michelin Chef! That's why it's such an upcharge - to deter those that do not understand haute couture dining
We are going on our first Disney cruise on the Wish in a week. I had managed to get a reservation for Enchante. Thank you for saving us. We are not "pinky up" people. We know how to behave in polite society, but that to spend that kind of money and not enjoy the meal. Yup...we are sticking to Palo.
Congrats on trying new things! Can I ask - did you look at the Remy vid reviews before you booked Enchante? Or look up what it takes to get a Michelin Star? This is a Three Michelin Star Chef designed haute couture menu restaurant experience for Disney to try and be the 1st cruiseline at Sea get a Michelin Star. Even fine dining like Palo and the main dining room will clear your silverware and soiled napkins sometimes per course but always at the end before dessert as you switch from savoury to sweet to end the meal. Haute Couture dining meals are about the entire experience with or without wine/champagne. Culturally a frenchman will think it is strange for someone to not drink wine - so would an Italian and some other cultures I'm sure. The ships water is totally potable but they are expected to sell you wine and bottled water. The dishes are about the entire experience using all of your senses to enjoy the meal. It is not about huge portion sizes and leaving full to the rafters. The foam, soap bubbles, etc as you keep mentioning is a textural change from the other parts of the meal often with subtle infused flavour. All the flowers are edible and add floral notes to the food. I get it you - had no experience with this meal but if you were going to spend this much money, why didn't you do the research to understand what you were going to be paying for? My husband and I had never done this level of dining before - only fine dining in Toronto - but when we researched Remy we knew we would love it - we don't drink much either and didn't do any wine pairings but it was still the most amazing food experience of our lives. We are foodies and are looking forward to Enchante excitedly in Jan 2023. Remy was their 1st attempt and they didn't get their star - now they are trying again with their "Upgrade" ship. The other two Triton level ships coming will undoubtedly also have these level of dining experiences.
Thank you for the detailed review. I was debating between Enchante and Palo for my upcoming sailing in December.... I look forward to that review but am now leaning that way regardless.
I’m okay with ordering omakase at a Japanese restaurant because its purpose is to make the most out of fresh seasonal ingredients. The chef makes what is best that particular day. However, I have to have faith in the chef preparing it. I also can’t imagine any cruise ship having the freshest ingredients since they don’t restock daily.
I’ve seen a few people comment these things but just to reiterate. Not being able to choose your appetizer/entree/etc is very common in high end restaurants - pre fixed menus are the norm in high end restaurants. The amuse Bouche that you didn’t like probably contained cilantro - which to some people tastes like soap. The silverware change for dessert is very common, so you don’t “taste the dinner” on your spoon while eating dessert. Gold silverware is preferred because it has less of an aftertaste than silver. As for why the server hovered, that’s traditional French service. Serving the French way has VERY specific rules about what the server has to do. (No fingers on top of the plates, the plates have to be set down and picked up on specific sides, etc) - and one of those rules is that he’s expected to wait behind you in case you need something.
Exactly. I really don’t know why they went. I grew up with humble beginnings though blessed now…I learned early on always walk into a room with your head held high and not insecure like you don’t belong.
Well said, and on point
Side note, some places will change cutlery after every course.
Thanks for the review. I don’t really have a problem with the unknown menu, BUT I think it’s unacceptable that they made you guys feel bad for not ordering alcohol. There could be so many reasons someone doesn’t want to drink, including being in recovery for alcoholism (not that you are, but you could be for all that waiter knows)!
The first appetizer you thought tasted like soap water is because of the cilantro. Some people genetically taste "soapyness" flavor from cilantro
I thought that was what it was. I was going to look it up.
Agree. Some people just aren’t into cilantro and what they usually say is it tastes “soapy” to them.
A *halfway decent* server would have prepared you/asked if you do not like cilantro, spicy food, have allergies, etc.
What's with the staff's fake "fraunch" accents? I speak multiple languages, there's NO NEED for that ridiculous, unintelligible fake "fraunch" accent.
The Chef seems... new?
Refusing to customize/dictating a RIGID menu for a high-end restaurant? 🤷
That seems so... cafeteria "chef". Serving pre-made portions, with zero live prep, and zero flexibility/substitutions in not being a "Chef".
The over use of FAD foods (edible flowers, foam... and let me guess... smoking dishes, "popping" foods, etc?) and not focussing on simple high quality ingredients (like genuine Wagu beef), customization, and good preparation...
Red flag.
It's a FRENCH restaurant?
WHERE'S THE FRENCH DISHES?
The pretentious change of silverware/napkins prior to dessert was just a ridiculous empty gesture - theatrics - to cover up the poor quality food.
High quality dining is centered around the CUSTOMER.
How sad. What a rip-off.
You had me laughing my head off countless times! "Who knew pinky up people like to eat flower petals" 😂🤣
This video was SO helpful in my decision-making, thank you!
Helpful AND entertaining, I should say :)
You should definately mention your experience to guest services. This helps with future training purposes!
6:20 That appetizer that tasted like soap: if the "herbs" contained cilantro, it's possible you and koda have that gene that makes cilantro taste different than for other people. My sister and I have it.
Thank you - how does someone know what dishwater taste like? I've heard Cilantro tastes like soap to those people - sad if they know what that tastes like
It could have been lavender
@@misstdot4780 taste and smell are very closely related, so for me it's easy to tell cilantro tastes like soap
@@misstdot4780 there may be other explanations i'm not aware of 😅
@@misstdot4780 When I was little, if I said a cuss word, my parents would wash my mouth out with soap. It's not just a southern saying lmbo its real. I also have the gene that makes cilantro taste like soap, its horrid lol
I’ve only been hearing negative reviews from the vloggers I watch that have gone to Enchante for both brunch and dinner. And one of the vloggers in particular does fine dining a lot and has eaten at Remy several times on the other cruise ships too. So I think your experience is very valid and similar to what other people have been experiencing too. It’s super disappointing. I hope Disney will course correct quickly! All of you being so honest is very helpful because I know someone at Disney is watching these review videos! Hopefully they figure it out!
Wish in general is the worst ship in the fleet and was known months ago and only enforced from reviews like this.
Someone called is the upcharge ship.
@@sethschroeder I think it’s definitely different from the other ships for sure and will take some time to get used to it. I’m hoping with some adjustments that we’ll all enjoy it as much as the others though. I’m not counting it out yet! Especially not before I experience it for myself too. I’ve got my fingers crossed for it!🤞🏼
Other than the horrible Enchante brunch DClub review I dont see that - reviews from people who ENJOY haute couture fine dining have been wonderful and going forward I expect more positive reviews will come out. Disney isn't going to change up what they've spent so much money to create and they want that Star!
@@misstdot4780 reduction in size of adult area, the removal of teens area with own pool area, removal of area for all guests on top deck only for concierge, inside stateroom layout of barely getting past couch, the subpar "attraction" that will have a long line, only 3/4 day sailings, and on and on.
If you don't think there has been negatives go and look. It's still DCL so people will have a good time but you are paying a premium because it's new not because it's the best ship.
@@sethschroeder I was specifically speaking about Enchante - I agree that the adults only area is ridiculously small and the hot tub in a idiotic place. I'm going for the Castaway Challenge cruise in Jan and have no choice as far as that - thats the ship its on now. They have run the numbers and Chapek wants Concierge guests and large rich families who vacation big but not often to Disney/Cruise. It's his model and until he's gone we won't get anything better. He doesn't care about adult fans of average income who frequent Disney.
I’d so want a pizza after that meal!! 😆
Thank you for your honest dining experience! You’ll laugh at that for years!
I 100% appreciate your honest and real review, I think it’s very helpful for people to see what they are getting into before an experience like this.
This review is all wrong. My mom and I Just got off the Wish and it was amazing. WE LOVED enchante brunch and dinner and are 1000% booking them on our future cruises.
It is obvious you don't do fine dining, and do not know how to appreciate it.
It's an embarrassing review. The dude was literally afraid of eating plants
Budgeting is not choosing the most expensive dining experience either, Just order what you like if you want to enjoy your food, and look into what you're ordering before you select it. I also loved the staff, Ryan was amazing along with the chef and their assistant/head servers.
You also are saying be honeycomb dish was a course which it WAS NOT. I did not get the 195 passion experience and recieved that dish. IT IS A PALLET CLEANSER. this is ridiculous watching this.
It sounds like you just have no experience with this kind of dining and you are giving them a bad review for it. It’s a you problem not a them problem.
Agree
I’ve eaten at several upscale restaurants, including a couple where I get to know the chef/owner. I did trust them to serve me without ordering and sometimes got surprises (like frogs legs). But I was never disappointed.
But I’m afraid I wouldn’t have made it past the opening encounter here. If a waiter has attitude because I tell him I don’t want alcohol, that’s where we part company. He doesn’t get any tip and the restaurant misses out on my business. I won’t pay to have someone look down their nose at me. There has to be someplace on a ship that size where you can get an impromptu dinner even if you are dressed up. And if they tried to make me pay for leaving the reservation, there would be he$$ to pay.
ME TOO have eaten all over the world and from NYC; boy, would they have been in trouble with me !!!
Agreed
Yeah I agree. That would have been my sign to walk out and go straight to guest services.
I agree he should have tried to make them feel more comfortable as they were not enjoying things but most Frenchpersons or Italians would be shocked to hear that someone doesn't drink wine - it's such a part of their dining culture.
If you eat at this place and don’t tip you should be thrown off the boat
Thank you for taking one (500) for the team. Now we know better. I can’t imagine your heartache. Y’all are such a sweet couple. God bless.
The best comment ever “I didn’t grow up eating foam”. Me either my friend me either! Lol
Honestly you made it sound like you went into this blind and was expecting something totally different, which is why you didn’t like it. Even tho you painted a bad picture it makes me really want to try this one day.
The review we didn't know we needed. I have honestly never enjoyed a dining review so much. I feel for you. You tried something new and it was so pretentious, it ruined the experience.
I agree with you. I love his review of the dishes. I just am not sure I would have ever done it. Now I know I wouldn’t do it.
If you think Michelin Star level haute couture cuisine and dining is pretentious then of course you won't enjoy this experience - I wish he had done more research before judging this based on his own unfamiliarity of ingredients and portion size.
@@mexicanamerican21 LOL imagine thinking you’re a baller cruising on a Disney ship when actual ballers like myself cruise NCL’s The Haven on newer ships like the PR1MA 🤣
Real ballers have their own ships. I hope this was sarcasm and I just missed it.
I love your honest review and can only repeat what others have said. I'm not a fan of "fine dining" and don't drink wine or champagne either. But you know what? Good on you for expanding your world experiences and even stepping out of your comfort zone to give something new a try. I can't wait for more videos!!
Wild to me that any server would be offended by someone choosing not to have wine. Hypothetically if y’all were on a sobriety Journey. That judgement could be really dangerous
But with a built in tip, they were taking money out of the waiter's pocket. Which is why built in tips are a horrid idea.
This a very true statement. There are also illnesses, conditions, and medications that can make it as dangerous as many food allergies. Also religious reasons. While those are all serious considerations, there is also nothing wrong with just not wanting to drink alcohol at whatever time for whatever reason.
Yup! There are many physical reasons to not drink, but also there are people who just don't enjoy drinking for no reason but they don't like it. I am 100% free and clear to drink, I just have no desire to. I get really hot (which I despise being hot. I could live in an igloo) and that makes me uncomfortable. At 24 years old I will order a virgin drink over an alcoholic one anyday - This kind of judgement is something I get a lot (Not usually from staff though) So you don't need to have a reason to not drink, just not wanting to is reason enough.
With that being said, the waiter was French and French people drink at like 6 months old (kidding) but I was in Paris when I was 9 or 10 and I was offered champagne at lunch in the Eiffle Tower. It's just their culture - however that doesn't warrant the waiter making someone feel uncomfortable for their choice to remain sober, that just may be where the confusion/rudeness comes from.
Other reasons people may not drink alcohol: trying to conceive, pregnant, nursing, or allergy.
@@TitoTimTravels I agree but at the same time the built in tip in the long run guarantees more money because most Americans suck at tipping.
I have never laughed so hard at a review because I could so relate!! We were on your Alaska sailing then again on the same Wish sailing! Thoroughly enjoy your videos, and keep rocking those Shirley Temples!! 👍🏼
I’m sorry that you had a terrible experience at the restaurant However, I just want to shine some light into some of the critics that you brought up.
The concept of Omakase (chef surprise meal) is from Japan and has been very popular with a lot of fine dining restaurants as of late. The idea behind this is the chef will use his/her expert experience in deciding what dishes are the best for that day and serve that to you. You are paying the high price to get a taste of what suppose to be the best and freshest ingredients the restaurant get their hand on for that day
In regard to flowers and foam, alot of these fine dining restaurant serve meal that is suppose to challenge and enhance all of your senses and not only your taste buds. It is an experience as a whole rather than just a meal. It might not be for everyone but that is just the expected standard for this kind of restaurant
Lastly, in regard to the waiter just stand right behind you, he isn’t there to judge you but to simply doing his job. A lot of these fine dining expected their waiter to be in constants present to their guests and available immediately to serve or answer anything their guests may have. “Waiting” for your server to show up is consider a bad service for a lot of these guests at fine dining restaurants
That’s it! 🙏🏻 that’s the Michelin experience and not “Cabanas”
Thank you! Well said. I haven’t been on the Wish, but have dined at both Remy and Palo several times, and I absolutely loved Remy. I would enjoy this restaurant too.
Such a bummer! My girls and I watched this and literally said “it looks like dish soap bubbles” and laughed when you said the same thing. We look forward to your Palo review. We were on the 3 day with you and Koda but didn’t try any of the upcharge restaurants. I also knew what kind of microwaveable meat you were talking about under the salad. Only having half a lobster tail would make me sad too! My husband and I have eaten at nice restaurants and have never seen so many flowers in one meal. Thanks for the review!
I love how down to earth yall are! We are from MS and let me just say that I am sooo thankful for your channel!!!
Not the $2.25 sprite!!! LOL 😂
Bruh I felt insulted with that charge!
This charge just seemed so silly! Could you just bring a refillable mug with a drink from deck 11? 😂
Thanks for the video! You made me feel so much better about our decision to cancel our Enchante reservations.
We have dined at Remy twice. The first was just after getting married aboard the ship. I definitely allowed them to choose what food to bring. I also refused wine because it really makes it hard to taste the food in my opinion (not a popular one, I know). I stuck with water. If something came that my wife did not like, she would give it to me. But I am very sure that if I told them, "This is not to her liking" they would bring her something else.
Our second time eating a Remy, my wife and daughter left half way through the multiple dessert course to get to a show. The serving staff felt bad about it and ended up sending me off with several boxes of desserts for them to have post-show. I know why you feel awkward, and it was ok. They should have made you feel more comfortable.
As for Enchante.... it feels like a poor imitation of Remy from what I have seen. But I reserve judgement for now.
We don't drink either and have never had this happen. Act like you have been out to eat before. Dont be so paranoid. Thumbs down
The foam is suppose to add some flavor to the dish without the heaviness of added sauces. It’s used a lot in multi-course tastings so that you don’t get full from sauce-ladened dishes. Plus it’s different and looks interesting. Same for the flowers… they’re a garish to make the dish look pretty, but you can eat them and they are milder in flavor than a sprig of parsley that most people never eat.
Oh, bless you guys. I would have felt so uncomfortable!! That foam on dessert looked like soap suds. I guess I'm just too plain for that hoity toity food. Sorry it was so expensive. It's so sweet though that you wanted to give Koda such a special treat. You guys are precious together. Did you go eat pizza after? I would have been starving!! You were brave to try something new❤️❤️
I grew up struggling too, but have had some wonderful opportunities to do fine dining as an adult. My French instructor brought us to a very expensive French restaurant so we could learn how to eat if we went to Paris (yes really). This is par for the course for French dining. Very different from the American version of fine dining. I've always felt super awkward at these types of restaurants. Monsieur Paul in Epcot is much the same, but they at least understand the audience a little more. Either way, it's nice you did it and now you can say you did, and you don't ever have to spend that kind of money to be uncomfortable again.
Foam has been a trend in fine dining for a few years now. The idea is that you can add unique flavors to a dish without adding bulk or different textures. In my experience they are mostly good, but some people can't stand the texture.
Thank you for such an HONEST review! I grew up in the same world as you, and as I have been saving and budgeting out my Wish trip next year I have tossed the idea of trying this restaurant back n forth. After this review, I will most definitely be spending my $500 on an enjoyable experience. My fiance and I would feel the same way sitting at the table, out of place and awkward as hell. As much as I thought I wanted to feel a part of the 1% for a night, I quickly realized after not only your review but others, this experience is absolutely not for me. Love the videos and the honesty! Keep up the great content!
While I don’t consider myself wealthy, I do come from a more comfortable area of the Country. This restaurant is trying WAY to hard to be high end. Adrian, no matter the cost, you get to define your dinner! Send it back or ask more questions! NEVER pay for so called ‘high class’ if YOU don’t see it as elegant! You’re worth respect!
Amen 🙏
Your opinion about the food is valid, does not sounds like your type of thing.
But the soda complaint? If you go to mcdonalds and order 100 big macs and a sprite, do you get upset you're charged for the sprite because you just bought 100 big macs?
What do you expect? 99% of the people that eat there are fine wine drinkers.
I'm not boasting to say I've eaten in a few fancy restaurants. But this menu is just so pretentious.
Pro tip from a non-drinker. If you are ever in that situation again? Tell them you are allergic to alcohol. On another channel (Disney Dining) one of the hosts has 36 years of sobriety and they served him a dessert with alcohol in it at that restaurant.
Thanks for saving my money! Can’t wait to see how Palo goes. Thanks for the great content x
I laughed my butt off when you said "pinky-up people!" I can so relate to your experience here. I would not have even known HOW to eat the food when it arrived! I would have been the girl eating the decorative garnish.....
The napkin/silverware changing... most high end restaurants will clear away everything from the table and bring you new napkins and silverware for dessert. You don't want to use the same place settings as dinner for dessert.
I think it was awesome that you wanted to try a new experience. I'm sorry it didn't work out the way you were expecting. Its a big risk ordering a meal not on the menu. Probably should have order the individual items from the menu. Soda is not included on the cruise. Of course they charged you!
@Its me Stacey soda is included on a Disney Cruise. I het Shirley Temples in the included dining rooms quite often and have never paid. There are actually 24 hour stations to get your soda coffee tea etc. for yourself.
@@iluvcruising Yes, I know. I have cruised Disney several times. I too get soda in the main dining room. But this wasn't one of the dining rooms. There is no beverage dispenser (soda machine) in Disneys upscale restaurant on the ship. Its the same when I go to Mastro's steakhouse or any fine dining. They do not have those machines and they serve you soda from a glass bottle. Again, I understand he was not used to fine dining but a little bit of research even just on Google goes a long way.
Thank you for providing us one of the most genuine and honest reviews I have seen. I really appreciate it.
Disney Wish and Disney Treasure are on my bucket list, but I love traveling on Disney Wonder and Disney Magic. My wife and I have been to a few places like that before. You really have to have a taste for that type of cooking. I probably wouldn't have touched my food. I would have run to the bar, grabbed a beer, gone to Cabanas, a double cheeseburger, and returned to the bar because I had finished my first beer. This time, I would get two beers: one for me and one for the waiter watching me eat the cheeseburger. Sit down to watch my wife enjoy the foam I got just for her.
As someone who has been and even studied in France, this is how I was treated 1 out of 10 times by random people or when eating out :(
We love Remy. We love the surprises and the wine pairings and the champagne pairings. Watching this, The restaurant seems very cold. No tablecloths, which makes sound echo more. I love the dark woods, the tablecloths, the elegance of Remy. This restaurant doesn't have the same feel.
Some of the dishes in your review we have had at Remy before. You have to just open your mind and enjoy what they have presented in front of you, because it's something you would never ever be able to get at home. We like that. I realize it's not for everyone.
But very great that you were willing to try!
Thank you for your honesty. I love your videos because you stay authentic to yourself. Keep doing that!
Hey Adrian, I LOVE watching the video’s!! I originally only watched the Disney Cruise videos because I love Disney cruises. But one day I decided to give Theme park videos a try and now I can’t stop watching them!! You’ve gotten me more into Theme park!! Thank you for all you do and keep up the good work!!!!
I have eaten at some very upscale restaurants as an adult but this is truly beyond pretentious. Thank you for reviewing so I won’t have an FOMO for not having a reservation.
As someone who doesn't drink I can totally understand how you both felt out of place. As always I appreciate your honesty. My heart broke hearing your disappointment in some of these dishes especially the wagyu dish. If you do try Remy sometime I hope it's a better experience.
I’m sorry you did not enjoy your experience . I’m going to say this as delicate as I do not want to offend but if your going to pay that amount of money you should maybe do some research so you know what you are getting into . This is what fine dining is about. You said you don’t drink wine and would rather have had tap water? And you paid $500 ….. you may as well have drank the imported water… I’m sorry but I think had you done more research you could’ve had either a better experience or just skipped it altogether……
Hit the nail on the head
I totally understand your frustration but this is what that level of dining experiences are. I think if you got to go through a “fine dining” experience/behind the scenes then your questions or confusion would be cleared up. All the things you discussed have specific purpose and reasoning.
Thanks for the heads up! We are going on the Wish on Monday and was considering this restaurant but have heard negative reviews about the food and the service. I’m so glad that you gave such an honest review of both good and bad experiences you’ve had. I also liked the way you broke down each dish afterwards so you had time to fully go into detail about each part instead of trying to do it during the meal
Your review was so real man, I loved watching it. I’m subscribing
Kudos for you for trying it out! Such a sweet idea for Koda. Pity you didn't enjoy it. I however enjoyed watching the video. Putting down huge amounts of hard earned cash for a tasting menu can be incredibly daunting. I've experienced some amazing fancy tasting menus and also some incredibly disappointing ones too. Also with that hefty price tag you expect the setting and service to be top notch too. Unfortunately it seems you got a snobby judging waiter which is a shame. I really dislike those kinds of places. You can be fancy fine dining and still make your customers feel welcome and at ease (in fact that should be the main goal). But yes, don't be discouraged by this experience! There are good fine dining restaurants out there :) And thank you for inadvertently making the funniest Enchanté review I've seen so far. Also foam is nasty and I'm so over it!!
Them charging you for that Sprite was insult to injury! That is also 100% on the server for it even being on the bill!
Disney’s signature dining has always been 100% a la carte pricing. Because they don’t offer drink packages like other ships you’re forced to pay even more for alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks.
I cruise NCL because of their Free at Sea deal which includes the premium drink package in the cruise fare. For an extra $200 I could upgrade that to premium plus and add unlimited top shelf liquor and Starbucks if I wanted.
Disney’s idea of all-inclusive is quite different from the industry standard.
It’s clear you are an authentic person and I’m sorry you had a horrible experience. Know that as your channel grows, the $500 will be a pittance of a memory; however, the value of this review is priceless and eternal. Thank you for taking the courageous risk with your palette and pocketbook! Any and EVERY experience is YOURS to have and hold, call it as you perceived it! Gratitude for putting yourself out there. You got this!!!!
I for the life of me cannot understand why anyone would waste money on that pretentious BS meal. You were robbed and should demand your money back.
I too would've felt outta place at Enchante, not because of them insisting we should order wine which I don't mind, but because I'm a Vegan that also grew up struggling financially and their menu doesn't look Vegan friendly at all.
OMG Your Experience was MY experience - we need to chat and laugh - Palo is the way to go!
I’d be delighted to chat about it sometime!
Usually when you have chefs tasting courses they are accompanied by alcoholic beverages. You should have inquired about that before going their.
Honestly I have not seen one review saying you’re uncultured because this review was very much valid. Thanks for helping us save money for when we decide to go!
Thank you for the honest review! I’ve heard the same things from other vloggers. I’m not sure why you were surprise they charge from your drink. As for clearing all the silverware and setting new set before dessert is common in “fine” dinning. If the servers is from France I’m sure he couldn’t comprehend why you wouldn’t have wine with your meal. As they have a glass (or bottle) of wine on lunch break.
I can’t wait to for your next video! And I really enjoyed this format :))
Loved this review! Your facial expressions when you're trying to describe what the food was 🤣
Also not saying all that looked great or anything just a tip tho, if you’re not a foodie don’t go to an expensive restaurant.
What a great review. I laughed and laughed and laughed. That was a lot of flowers to eat. Love the honesty!
I'm not sure if anyone else has pointed it out, but that Wagyu beef that you had was most likely American Wagyu, and not Japanese Wagyu, which is the highest quality that most people hear about. I know this because looking at the menu, they were selling that particular dish for about $45. There is no place where you can get Japanese Wagyu for that cheap, unfortunately. It's a very expensive cut of beef. Many restaurants actually lie about having Wagyu, just so they can charge you more, and most people wouldn't exactly notice. I haven't really tried Japanese Wagyu myself, but they definitely weren't serving you that. I don't blame you for being disapppointed in that.
From what I've seen, it looks like it's from Australia, which is probably even worse since it has to travel farther and not as fresh. Probably would have been better to go American or a more common type of cut found in France.
This review is hilarious, dish soap foam. Thanks for the laugh. 🤣
I really appreciate your honest review. I get the impression that DCL wants to compete with other luxury liners by including high end French restaurants with Michelin level chefs but It’s not for everyone. I can’t drink alcohol either so thanks for being so brave and giving us your review!
I would of done the same thing as you, I would of wanted to try it just to experience it. However, based on the menu, I would hardly know what to order. I would of also felt extremely awkward. I’d rather spend my $ on something else. Thank you for this video and your honesty.
Would have
Same! I felt out of place just watching this 😬
This dude was frightened by beeswax, and didn't know what cilantro was. Has he ever eaten anything but a cheeseburger?
Just FYI, if you do the wine or champagne pairing at that type of restaurant aboard one of the Disney cruise ships they bring out a different one, wine or champagne, with each course. They tell you and show you what it is and then explain why it’s being paired with that particular course. Some of the wines and champagnes can be very expensive per bottle. Just a glass, which is a lot less amount than some think, can be shockingly expensive. If you like wine or champagne, I personally think it’s worth it but others think it’s not. They feel just getting a bottle of your favorite one is the way to go. Also, if you get a mocktail or some other types of non-alcoholic beverages you are probably going to be charged for them. In restaurants such as those nothing is ever for free.
I’m not into fine dining either. My partner and I went for the first time in a year after having a baby, to an upscale restaurant (we were given a gift voucher, not our choice) and the second we walked in I felt so out of place and uncomfortable. They scoffed when I turned down wine and asked for lemonade and the server nearly fell over when I asked for my steak medium-well. Was the worst experience ever and we just wanted to eat and get the hell out of the place. I’m sorry you paid so much for an awful experience
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What kind of grown man orders a Shirley Temple at Michelin star chef restaurant
just so you know, the crispy first course isn't crispy bees wax, that's inside the the bowl, the crumbly thing is just a tuile made from apparently rice flour and is just meant to add another texture your dish.
I truly appreciate your honest review :)
Thank you for the honest review. That said this is very consistent with very fine dining - while it's a meal it's equally or more so supposed to be an experience. It can be intimidating and it really isn't for everyone - and that's ok.
Many of your criticisms are actually because the dishes and meal as a whole are meant to hit all senses including visually appealing - hence flowers and foam and colors and other gastro molecular techniques and serving ware and size of courses - you need to think of it as art. Also these aren't gluttonous, crazy portion meals.
I would say at the end of the day this isn't really a fair review of the restaurant bc it's not your style of food. Similar to someone trying to review a Mexican restaurant but not liking Mexican food. Best part of this review is many people who assume Disney = for everyone can watch and know what they are getting themselves in to and make their own call. Me, I'm excited to try it out when on the Wish (but that's because i enjoy these types of experiences). I also enjoy Palo but it's apples and oranges to this type of experience.
Im sorry but its not fine dining to just trow flowers or foam on everything... Its more like a parody of fine dining, just as the waiter with the French accent. Fine dining, or at least modern fine dining is not about bells and whistles at all. Its about the ingredients, how they are sourced, grown, raised etc. Its about local produce made with love and care so you get your moneys worth with things you cant just buy in the supermarket. Just go fine dining in Spain for example: They are so proud of their meats, what they are fed, which breed they are, how long the meat is aged. A lot of top class restaurants have their own gardens or private relations to local farms to make sure the ingredients are exactly up to their standards. I rarely heard the waiter explain what they were actually eating and where it was from.
If you have an entire tomato course... it better be a darn special tomato. Where is it from, why is it special, why am I paying so much for it? Nope, not a single explanation, it was just "a tomato". "Wagyu beef" can mean anything, wagyu is literally the word for beef in Japanese so completely meaningless. The only thing they explained was the caviar, because of course there had to be caviar, the hallmark of fine dining, right? :D I dont want to be harsh, but if you charge your guests these kind of prices and pretend to be some sort of French high-end place... act like one instead of cosplaying as one.
Nah - this is a pretentious explanation of a pretentious place
Can’t just have samples as a meal and add herbs on it just to call it fine dining
I don't drink either and I'd have been super annoyed with that server, people don't drink for a variety of reasons and it's not on the wait staff to judge the guest. Mocktails have also become pretty popular over the last few years for this reason (if you're ever in Maine, swing by Vena's Fizz House!)
This is also why I'd prefer to go to a nice Japanese restaurant over a French restaurant. The food is just as delicious with lovely presentation, but without the stressful atmosphere. I can't relax in fine French or Italian restaurants the way I can in my favorite nice sushi place.
OMG I laughed at this whole video. I feel ya about the meal. Many people have complained about their experience at this restaurant. You are not alone.
Totally appreciate your honest review and so sorry for your experience. We totally understand feeling awkward in some places and feeling judged for not wanting wine or champagne. We sometimes get that because we don’t really drink. Look forward to the next video with your better experience.
Hi, my fiancé and I were actually dining at Enchanté in the booth behind your table on 7/25, it was our engagement dinner. While we thoroughly enjoyed our dining experience, I am sorry that it was not the same for you. 😕
Hello! We enjoyed having you guys behind us! You both sounded like I were having the best time! Btw when I said we could hear people chewing it wasn’t directed at you it was the people who were behind my gf at the table next to us in the window lol. But we’re so happy you enjoyed your experience and congratulations!
@@ThemeParkExpress Thank you very much! We wanted to say hi but did not want to interrupt your dinner 😄
Just have to comment because I cracked up when you said "they plopped a little thing of suds there on the plate" !! I have watched a few of your videos now and just subscribed. Thanks for keeping it real-love your personality 🙂
So you don’t like cilantro. Lol. That was the green stuff.
Don't feel bad about the French attitude. Often, French professionals in the restaurant business play up to the expected, arrogant stereotype. People who are snobs about fine dining feel reassured by this, so it's part of the experience. Keep in mind this dude is on a Disney cruise; I think he's overcompensating.
Chef's menus are an expression of the chef's ego. Usually gross. There is a quickly aging trend to "deconstruct" food, often by freezing and making foam expressions of foods. It's trendy.
An "amuse bouche" literally means mouth teaser. Not an official course. Just FYI
That was not Wagyu beef. Wagyu beef has visible dots of fat. 😒 There are less than 5 places in the US where actual Wagyu beef is served.
Changing the color of napkin was theatre to make you feel better about what you paid. It's normal to clear and replace flatware before dessert, but the napkin flourish was ridiculous.
Were the foreign waters an extra charge?
We didn’t ask but we believe so based off the table next to us drinking some water out of a very fancy looking bottle
You did it so we don't have to 😁🤭👍......foam and flower petals 🤣
If I grew up eating food like that and then went to an expensive restaurant and was served fries, a burger, pizza, chocolate brownie with vanilla ice cream, I’d be blown away! Lol. I don’t care how “cultured” you are, this is a waste of $$, not worth it. You need to blow me away for $195. Also, Charged for a fountain drink $2 when you pay $400?? They should be EMBARRASSED. Take that disgusting tomato water and give me a coke please, and don’t stand behind me and don’t roll your eyes mr waiter, thank you! OK rant over LOL. Thanks for the honest review. Enjoying all your cruise coverage. The best Wish VLOGs I’ve seen yet. You show your experience from the viewpoint of regular people and not from someone who is a millionaire concierge only guy or a straight up fake media influencer. Thank you. God bless!
A dinner like this, should be fun and enjoyable and never rushed. That said, I can't believe they made you feel uncomfortable, that is unacceptable. Any Bartender (especially in a restaurant like this should know how to make every drink even a Shirley Temple or Roy Roger). As for them charging you for the drinks, sadly drinks are never included, but I agree for the price it should have been. With this type of dinner a lot of it has to do with the 'show' so them changing out the utensils and napkins is pretty normal (even for desert with the type of utensils, it can also do with what they are serving, some metals will affect the taste of food, or so I've been told). What they will also do is give you a napkin that goes with what you are wearing, (ex. if you are wearing a dark color they will give you a black napkin. If you are wearing a light color they will give you a white napkin). I'm not a fan of chef tasting menu/meal because you end up with stuff that you may not like, and I'm picky. One thing I will share as in my mind the experience should be similar (especially for Disney). Is my husband and I have eaten at Club 33 several times and we are always made to feel welcome even though we are not 'fancy'. They will explain the menu and if there is every anything that we don't like or can't eat they will ask and we will tell them which makes the experience all the better). I'm surprised they didn't do that with you. I'm glad some of the dinner was enjoyable for you both. I know you said you wouldn't do it again and I get it, however maybe try it again in the future. I bet the experience will be different and you may enjoy it. As for the flower petals and the foam that is the chef showing off (all about the presentation) remember we eat with our sight and our smell so some of these extra touches are all about the other senses. Which I can take or leave. I wish this was a better experience for the both of you. We thought you both looked so cute all dressed up and seeing how excited you were to go there and treat yourselves was wonderful to see, I only wish you had a better time. Can't wait to see your Palo Brunch we love Palo so hopefully that made up for it.
We enjoyed feeling fancy for a change but we will for sure think about doing it again further down the line!
I completly agree with your comment, its unaccaptable to make people feel unconfortable when they spend so much money to enjoy a spécial diner. And they should have ask for their taste/allergy etc...even for a suprise diner (im french so i hope my english is good enough but anyway i agree with you 100%) :)
@@ophelielilie2139your English is perfect 👍
I agree completely, true "French service" is about the *customer's comfort*
The fact they finish so many of the dishes at the table would be so awkward for me. And I would be so upset if I spent 500 on a meal that I didn't like half the dishes
This is typical for upscale restaurants.
@@natelevicurrie doesn't make it any less awkward for me. I'm introverted and don't even like people checking on me during my meals
You might want to give flowers another try. Different flowers have different flavours similarly to how the fruits, nuts, seeds, and vegetables they will eventually become have different flavours. Different struggle backgrounds have different experiences with whether or not we eat flowers. Urban struggling families probably wouldn't, but farm struggling families absolutely will, because it's using all that you have instead of throwing things away. For example, when growing zucchinis you want to remove the smaller flowers and only leave the biggest, healthiest flower per vine stem. Instead of throwing those flowers away you fry them up with some butter, salt and pepper, and serve them on top of a young greens salad: delicious! Sometimes you companion plant flowers next to your vegetables to keep certain bugs away from certain crops, so why not also eat those flowers, since taking the flowers off is often a way to force more blooms? Nasturtiums are especially delicious, kind of spicy like peppers. You can often find these things at spring and early summer farmers' markets. Many people also like violets, but I don't care for them myself, I find them too cloying, and it looks like a lot of the dishes you had had violets on them.
I'm pretty sure the foam trend is just because it's really hard from a technical perspective. I don't think there are too many people who enjoy the texture, and I think most people will be happy when restaurants stop bragging about their technical prowess by making food that people don't like.
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
Many congratulations on a super honest review! Pleased to know that you have the true courage to stand up for your rights to both a decent meal and actual value for your hard earned RUclipsr money. Whereas it would seem that you got caught up in the classic story and similarity of The Emperor Who Had No Clothes and whereupon the restaurant attempted to convince you were eating actual food. NOT!!! Time to contact your Credit Card Company.
Did he not eat the food? Why would you recommend disputing the charge? Yikes…yikes😮
If there’s a problem one must let them know during service not months later and then suggestions to dispute a charge are wild to me
Hi. I just started watching your videos. I am enjoying them a lot. Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your honest review. My wife and I had high hopes for Enchanté but after seeing this, we quickly agreed to cancel our reservation in October. For that amount of money, we could spend it on so many more enjoyable experiences. Thank you again, $500 worth ❤️
You also based your decision on 1 person’s review.
I'm so sorry if this comes out wrong, but I was cracking up throughout this review. I'm so with you. I thought this was hilarious because it was so relatable. Thanks for letting us know this is not for everyone.
The greens on the amuse-bouche you hated looks like cilantro. A lot of people have a smell receptor gene that picks up the scent of aldehyde which is in cilantro and is used in soap making. The gene picking up on the scent tricks your brain into thinking cilantro tastes like soap because it smells like soap. That's why cilantro tastes soapy to a lot of people.
That’s me. I can eat almost anything, but cilantro is a big no.
You have saved so many people so much money. Thank You
My husband and I sailed on the Dream in May and decided we wanted to try Remy and this is exactly how we felt! It didn’t feel like these restaurants are designed for the average cruiser :( Palo on the Dream was soooo much better, the theming here looks amazing but I agree that for the prices, you have to be used to this kind of dining in order to really enjoy it I think :(
This is why they have both a experience for whatever suit’s people I hope to try Remy for the first time in October 2023. Did they brunch, plus also Palo Brunch and Dinner. Remy dinner next
These aren't designed for the average cruiser - it was designed by a three star Michelin Chef! That's why it's such an upcharge - to deter those that do not understand haute couture dining
I’m not use to this dining normally, but I loved all my experiences at Remy. Palo isn’t bad either.
We are going on our first Disney cruise on the Wish in a week. I had managed to get a reservation for Enchante. Thank you for saving us. We are not "pinky up" people. We know how to behave in polite society, but that to spend that kind of money and not enjoy the meal. Yup...we are sticking to Palo.
Congrats on trying new things! Can I ask - did you look at the Remy vid reviews before you booked Enchante? Or look up what it takes to get a Michelin Star?
This is a Three Michelin Star Chef designed haute couture menu restaurant experience for Disney to try and be the 1st cruiseline at Sea get a Michelin Star.
Even fine dining like Palo and the main dining room will clear your silverware and soiled napkins sometimes per course but always at the end before dessert as you switch from savoury to sweet to end the meal.
Haute Couture dining meals are about the entire experience with or without wine/champagne. Culturally a frenchman will think it is strange for someone to not drink wine - so would an Italian and some other cultures I'm sure. The ships water is totally potable but they are expected to sell you wine and bottled water.
The dishes are about the entire experience using all of your senses to enjoy the meal. It is not about huge portion sizes and leaving full to the rafters. The foam, soap bubbles, etc as you keep mentioning is a textural change from the other parts of the meal often with subtle infused flavour. All the flowers are edible and add floral notes to the food.
I get it you - had no experience with this meal but if you were going to spend this much money, why didn't you do the research to understand what you were going to be paying for? My husband and I had never done this level of dining before - only fine dining in Toronto - but when we researched Remy we knew we would love it - we don't drink much either and didn't do any wine pairings but it was still the most amazing food experience of our lives. We are foodies and are looking forward to Enchante excitedly in Jan 2023.
Remy was their 1st attempt and they didn't get their star - now they are trying again with their "Upgrade" ship. The other two Triton level ships coming will undoubtedly also have these level of dining experiences.
Thank you for the detailed review. I was debating between Enchante and Palo for my upcoming sailing in December.... I look forward to that review but am now leaning that way regardless.
I’m okay with ordering omakase at a Japanese restaurant because its purpose is to make the most out of fresh seasonal ingredients. The chef makes what is best that particular day. However, I have to have faith in the chef preparing it. I also can’t imagine any cruise ship having the freshest ingredients since they don’t restock daily.