Had mine for about 2 weeks and i love it. Used many saws (blue, teal, yellow, skill, etc) and always preferred blade right. Always loved the feel of a good ol dewalt but man this milwaukee might be my favorite yet. love the light, blows dust away from line, no secondary safety, and the depth detents save so much time when you got dust in your eyes.
@@TinkerWithToolsI don’t use circular saws very often. More torque sounds like it’s more likely to kick back more if I screw up. I’m definitely not gonna get this new saw. :)
One of my favorite tool testing RUclips channels right here. 👍 I agree, that's a good way to test tools that are similar: put them through hard tasks that will test their greatest ability, speed-wise and/or torque-wise, then there will be a clear winner. With tabless cells and stacked cells becoming the thing now, and brushless motor tech getting better, these tools are getting more and more powerful... Cool to see!
Waiting on the new rear handle 7 1/4 inch milwaukee saw to release. To me it seems like a much more natural saw to use compared to blade right being a right handed user
Just bought myself the new fuel 7 1/4" circ saw for Christmas. Came with a forge 8.0 battery for $249.99 from home depot. Think the sale ends in February. Completely blows my makita 6 1/2" saw outta the water.
I assume you are referring to when you are using the speed square as a guide for cross cutting? If so then no, not a chance. I’ll have a short in the next day or so addressing that.
What battery was on the 6 1/2 saw I have the new gen 4 or whatever 2833 n it cuts way faster than that , also the most powerful DeWalt it the DCs 578 it's advertised 45 wats out power over the rear handle n I have never seen it stall , awesome video 👍
@@N1rOx I have the 578 but not the 577 , I DNT have a rear handle thinking of getting the metabo rear handle because it's light and runs forever on one battery
Great review! From the tests I’ve seen, the dsc578 is slightly faster than the dcs577 which you use here. I think you need to go apples to apples VS the GOAT dcs578 with this new M18.
The saw will run and it will work for sure, but if you are pushing the saw to the limits, you will see a benefit from using a bigger/more potent battery option.
The 6-1/2 gen 2 is still a good saw and for a lot of tasks it’s still a great option. I don’t think an 8’ rip cut in a triple stack of OSB is going to be the common task if that is the saw you are buying.
That link is to the video that the tool show did live from the event. It should be time stamped at the 1 hour 59 minute mark that start to talk about the circular saws.
I have the 61/2 Bosh left sidewinder. The old brushed model its not that strong but its lasted . Still use it all the time very seldom do I grab for my other saws
@@TinkerWithToolsI’ve been curious about that one but havnt needed to upgrade my 6 1/2 inch yet. Would love to see that one tested to their other 7 1/4 inch saws.
@@TinkerWithTools not bad at all at $199 tool only. I wonder if this left blade got upgraded performance over the right blade model? I find interesting it also came with an extra 1/8" cutting depth
It was tested with the 6ah forge for this video because it is what was on the tool (and it's what Milwaukee has shown it being run on in the past). But to that, I have a future video planned where we are going to focus more on the battery and the plan is to run several of their tools on different batteries and see what the performance difference is. Both of these tools would be used in that video.
I don't have the sidewinder Dewalt - just the rear handle that you saw here. It's the only saw that compares power wise to this but I still feel that this Milwaukee has a small advantage over it. But both are a class ahead of any other saw that I have tried.
First of all, thanks for this video. The new Milwaukee 7-1/4" is so incredibly powerful. Secondly, as someone who works in respiratory health, you really need to not be breathing all that dust. It's so bad for your lungs and long-term health.
Me Going to get the he NEW 7 1/4 REAR HANDLE SAW have rhe new 5 3/4 M18 fuel Saw and it impressive it is Especially whrn i return the 8 AMP RED LITHIUM Battery and the saw now CO$T me $125 from HOME DEPOT
Some others have brought up a good point and I own tools in all three platforms so I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but why would you not have put a brand new blade on every saw of the same brand? I enjoy your channel, but I would think you would want to eliminate any variables or anything that may be perceived as giving an advantage to one over the other. There are a lot of people in the comments, that are now dismissing everything you did.
It is an incredibly valid point and certainly something that I consider, especially in videos where I am trying to do a head to head. The focus of this video was more meant to be a first impressions video of the Milwaukee, its new battery and the saw blade that milwaukee is releasing with the saw. Because that was the focus, I chose to leave it on there. The Dewalt and Makita were included more to provide context to what kind of performance to expect from the Milwaukee. I apparently didn't articulate that well enough. I have other thoughts on the matter and if you want to discuss it further, feel free to hit me up on my social media (like Instagram - @tinkerwithtools) or at my email (tinkerwithtools@gmail.com). I hate that RUclips doesn't have some sort of direct messaging element within the app.
Tabless cells are on a different level when it comes to internal resistance. Think they'll be fine. Milwaukee batteries rather get ruined by the charger or internal BMS 😂
I don't get why people say tools kill batteries. Had string trimmer and saw for 2 years and constantly use 4 12.0 batteries and run them dead and they're still fine.
Here we go go with the haters. it’s always the Makita fan boys. Out of the over 300 M18 tools This problem has only been reported on two tools and it’s a very, very small percentage but now it’s every tool😂
18 volt Milwaukee saws draw too many amps to get the power and overheat on long rips. Dewalt Flexvolt saws are far more powerful and don't overheat ,I'm a career carpenter and have much experience with circ saws .
The heat is on the batteries , an copper wire, but is a new model and new bateries tabless .. this milwauke is regual saw vs rear hand , is coming the rear handle it burst 60v
The last gen was also kitted with a 12ah HO battery as well. I would say that this saw isn’t looking to be competitive with the Flexvolt 7-1/4” DCS578.
@@TinkerWithTools 3 years i used my DeWalt DCS578 i have and 577 but more of the time i am using 578 i will never change it because i am getting older 😂 not young but i will believe in Milwaukee when i see to be Sponsored some of The Best Team in F1 😉 like DeWalt are on McLaren F1 and until then i wish Milwaukee a good luck
@@TinkerWithTools Thanks for answering but i am not from Uk i work with Uk tourists in my Country winter like Ski instructor from 30 years. The rest of time i am Building Construction's and Roofs
The Dewalt was cutting with the blade that it came with(a thin kerf blade) as was the Milwaukee (a thick kerf blade). Only the Makita, which I have owned for roughly 2 years at this point was using anything other than the included blade.
Type of blade and quality are 2 different things entirely. Dewalt blades are the worst. I’m sure Milwaukee has improved their saw (all of them are terrible aside from their reciprocators and oscillators), but this is not apples to apples.
You are right. It wasn’t apples to apples in the comparison and it was really intended to be. They aren’t the same type of saw either. The inclusion of those saws is merely meant to provide a frame of reference for the new saw.
Each tool was tested in the battery that they come kitted with. In the case of the DEWALT that is a 9ah Flexvolt battery and in the Makita that is a 4ah battery.
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Had mine for about 2 weeks and i love it. Used many saws (blue, teal, yellow, skill, etc) and always preferred blade right. Always loved the feel of a good ol dewalt but man this milwaukee might be my favorite yet. love the light, blows dust away from line, no secondary safety, and the depth detents save so much time when you got dust in your eyes.
I appreciate you sharing your experience with it. The only complaint I had was I want it to be blade left. But that’s personal preference
Currently selling for $224 at HD online with the Red Lithium FORGE XC 8.0 battery. Just purchased today.
That thing just sounds like a beast when you start it up!
If you hold it loosely when you pull trigger it will twist in you hand a little bit almost like it’s popping a wheelie or something.
@@TinkerWithToolsI don’t use circular saws very often. More torque sounds like it’s more likely to kick back more if I screw up.
I’m definitely not gonna get this new saw. :)
@@gf2e Yeah I'm sure most people out there do fine with a corded or smaller saw. Especially if you're just making small cuts.
One of my favorite tool testing RUclips channels right here. 👍
I agree, that's a good way to test tools that are similar: put them through hard tasks that will test their greatest ability, speed-wise and/or torque-wise, then there will be a clear winner.
With tabless cells and stacked cells becoming the thing now, and brushless motor tech getting better, these tools are getting more and more powerful... Cool to see!
We are living in a cool time for tools right now. Lots of advancement! Thanks for the support!
Looks really powerful.....correct position of side saw... most ppl use it like rear hand
Got the new m18 last week i was impress so much more improved overthe prior gen
The flex 24v is a crazy fast saw as well but would have overheated during that test 😂
Yeah there are other impressive saws that I wouldn’t mind testing just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Am really impressed I wonder how the new blade left will perform if this is so powerful
I think that it will be an impressive saw. Just wish it wasn’t a wait until next year.
Waiting on the new rear handle 7 1/4 inch milwaukee saw to release. To me it seems like a much more natural saw to use compared to blade right being a right handed user
I agree with you on that. I get some people don’t like the added weight and size of rear handle saws but the blade left is just more natural for me.
@@TinkerWithTools I never understood the tool being too heavy argument, builders from the 70s/80s had tools twice the weight and they did just fine.
They also have shoulder and elbow issues in abundance from what I understand.
Just try and do a compound mitre cut to the long point measurement with your blade left saw ! With a blade right saw it is easy.
Just ordered this today for $209 with a forge 8.0. HD Deal of the day. Thanks for the video.
That was a heck of a deal!
I got mine from HD for $249 with the Forge 8.0.
Got mine HD Cyber Monday online 199
Taxes….. a Single 8.0 is About 150$ in Germany…. 😢
Can u tell me what battery was on the Milwaukee 6 1/2 saw
In this video, I was using the 6ah Forge battery.
Does that battery make a big difference? @@TinkerWithTools
Do you have any Flex saws to compare to the Milwaukee?
not currently.
Good video! You can hear the difference. The Milwaukee didn't drop RPM's at all. All the other saws did.
Thanks!
Wondering if they will release a guide rail compatible version like there is for the last generation.
Are you referring to the track saw?
Just bought myself the new fuel 7 1/4" circ saw for Christmas. Came with a forge 8.0 battery for $249.99 from home depot. Think the sale ends in February. Completely blows my makita 6 1/2" saw outta the water.
That's a great deal for a great saw!
Can we see the forge 12.0 next to the regular 12.0
I don’t currently own the older 12.0. If I ever get it I’ll be sure to showcase it.
He did it all for the nookie
I hope they make a new rear handle with this much power
They showed the rear handle at the Milwaukee Pipeline event. It will come out next year.
@@TinkerWithTools heck yeah
does it clear a speed square at full depth?
I assume you are referring to when you are using the speed square as a guide for cross cutting? If so then no, not a chance. I’ll have a short in the next day or so addressing that.
Is a beast motor.. i would be see difecerence between forge bateries
It’s planned for future testing. Not just on this tool but on other Milwaukee tools as well.
Thank you , great channel 👍
Thank you too!
So the flexvolt side winder still not replaceable.
Why do you say that?
@@TinkerWithTools Have you ever used one for work? They are the best.
What battery was on the 6 1/2 saw I have the new gen 4 or whatever 2833 n it cuts way faster than that , also the most powerful DeWalt it the DCs 578 it's advertised 45 wats out power over the rear handle n I have never seen it stall , awesome video 👍
The 6ah Forge battery was on the 6-1/2 saw.
I've owned both the 577 and 578 and the 577 cut faster and was harder to stall.
Not by a whole lot though.
@@N1rOx I have the 578 but not the 577 , I DNT have a rear handle thinking of getting the metabo rear handle because it's light and runs forever on one battery
@@bryang9158 I've owned that saw and you can't really beat it's ergonomics. I prefer it over the 577 for sure.
What size battery were you using on the 578 DeWalt bud
That was using the 9ah Flexvolt battery.
@TinkerWithTools thanks bud . That Milwaukee I didn't get the model of it .
This is the 2834-20 in bare tool.
@@TinkerWithTools cheers bud
Great review!
From the tests I’ve seen, the dsc578 is slightly faster than the dcs577 which you use here.
I think you need to go apples to apples VS the GOAT dcs578 with this new M18.
Have to use what I have. I don’t love 7-1/4” sidewinders enough to own too many of them.
@@TinkerWithTools maybe someone will borrow it to you..
I wish Milwaukee would come out with an M18 that ia a true worm drive. The rear handle mimics that, but you don't get the worm drive torque.
Having used this sidewinder - I am curious to see how the new rear handle will perform in comparison when it comes out.
I only have 5.0 batteries. Wonder if i can run a 7 1/4 saw
The saw will run and it will work for sure, but if you are pushing the saw to the limits, you will see a benefit from using a bigger/more potent battery option.
It will work with any m18 battery
Bummed the 6.5 saw is so far behind its bigger brother. Thought it would be a lot closer.
The 6-1/2 gen 2 is still a good saw and for a lot of tasks it’s still a great option. I don’t think an 8’ rip cut in a triple stack of OSB is going to be the common task if that is the saw you are buying.
Can't figure out if that 6.5 is the new 2833 or a older one
@@bryang9158it says gen2 in the video. So guessing it is the new one.
@@BurtTMacklin-fbi yeah I just noticed the belt hook 👍
@@BurtTMacklin-fbi it may have been a bit better if it had the 12 forge battery, but it had the six
I can’t stand blade on the right just feels awkward for me I always look at the blade when cutting
Me too! I strongly prefer a blade left but it’s a great saw so far if you can get past that.
The new 12 amp hour forged battery will solve all your problems
Cyber Monday so I got mine from HD for $199 with the Forge 8.0.
Steal of a deal!
Woww 😮 milwaukee #1
It’s an impressive saw. Can’t wait for the rear handle.
So Milwaukee is coming out with a gen 2 rear handle u say ?? 🤷
Next spring yes. They announced and even showed it at pipeline this year.
Is there a video of it at the pipeline
ruclips.net/user/liveeUt63QcPpHA?t=7120&si=Hwbokmdjota2sxfB
That link is to the video that the tool show did live from the event. It should be time stamped at the 1 hour 59 minute mark that start to talk about the circular saws.
Why doesn’t any brand make a 7 1/4” blade left sidewinders? It seems like something that would sell well.
Bosch makes one. They just aren’t incredibly common.
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I have the 61/2 Bosh left sidewinder. The old brushed model its not that strong but its lasted . Still use it all the time very seldom do I grab for my other saws
@@TinkerWithToolsI’ve been curious about that one but havnt needed to upgrade my 6 1/2 inch yet. Would love to see that one tested to their other 7 1/4 inch saws.
@@TinkerWithTools not bad at all at $199 tool only. I wonder if this left blade got upgraded performance over the right blade model? I find interesting it also came with an extra 1/8" cutting depth
i’m really surprised you did not use the same blades on the saws. i feel like that’s typically Something you would do.
Was the 2nd gen 6 1/2" saw also tested with the 12Ah Forge ? Or was it tested with the 6Ah battery instead?
It was tested with the 6ah forge for this video because it is what was on the tool (and it's what Milwaukee has shown it being run on in the past). But to that, I have a future video planned where we are going to focus more on the battery and the plan is to run several of their tools on different batteries and see what the performance difference is. Both of these tools would be used in that video.
How does this compare to the current model dewalt 60v / flex volt model? Is it actually more powerful?
I don't have the sidewinder Dewalt - just the rear handle that you saw here. It's the only saw that compares power wise to this but I still feel that this Milwaukee has a small advantage over it. But both are a class ahead of any other saw that I have tried.
Which Flexvolt is that? The link is missing in the description.
The link is fixed now but here is as well:
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It’s the Flexvolt rear handle
First of all, thanks for this video. The new Milwaukee 7-1/4" is so incredibly powerful. Secondly, as someone who works in respiratory health, you really need to not be breathing all that dust. It's so bad for your lungs and long-term health.
I appreciate the advice.
I wonder if this can keep up with dewalt 60v saws ?????
In my limited testing so far, it's close
Whit the blade on the right, all the sawdust shoots away from the worker, or if there is an attachment, the hose is away from the worker.
Me Going to get the he NEW 7 1/4 REAR HANDLE SAW have rhe new 5 3/4 M18 fuel Saw and it impressive it is Especially whrn i return the 8 AMP RED LITHIUM Battery and the saw now CO$T me $125 from HOME DEPOT
Is that the metal cutting saw?
@@TinkerWithTools SORRY off by 1 inch the new 6 3/4 saw I would love to get the METAL saw
try hikoki c3606db or c3607db they will beat those circulars saws
I'll have to check them out eventually.
👍
Some others have brought up a good point and I own tools in all three platforms so I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but why would you not have put a brand new blade on every saw of the same brand? I enjoy your channel, but I would think you would want to eliminate any variables or anything that may be perceived as giving an advantage to one over the other. There are a lot of people in the comments, that are now dismissing everything you did.
It is an incredibly valid point and certainly something that I consider, especially in videos where I am trying to do a head to head. The focus of this video was more meant to be a first impressions video of the Milwaukee, its new battery and the saw blade that milwaukee is releasing with the saw. Because that was the focus, I chose to leave it on there. The Dewalt and Makita were included more to provide context to what kind of performance to expect from the Milwaukee. I apparently didn't articulate that well enough.
I have other thoughts on the matter and if you want to discuss it further, feel free to hit me up on my social media (like Instagram - @tinkerwithtools) or at my email (tinkerwithtools@gmail.com). I hate that RUclips doesn't have some sort of direct messaging element within the app.
Gonna be melting batteries like the string trimner and the big chainsaws soon, thats why makita went 18x2 and 40v and dewalt went 60v.
Tabless cells are on a different level when it comes to internal resistance. Think they'll be fine. Milwaukee batteries rather get ruined by the charger or internal BMS 😂
Only time will tell I guess. I imagine that is part of the of reason for new battery designs and upgraded electronics on the newer tools.
I don't get why people say tools kill batteries. Had string trimmer and saw for 2 years and constantly use 4 12.0 batteries and run them dead and they're still fine.
@@saiiiiiii1 tabless cells are too strong for this dinky terminals on m18 packs. almost 3000w continuous yeah...
Here we go go with the haters. it’s always the Makita fan boys. Out of the over 300 M18 tools This problem has only been reported on two tools and it’s a very, very small percentage but now it’s every tool😂
18 volt Milwaukee saws draw too many amps to get the power and overheat on long rips. Dewalt Flexvolt saws are far more powerful and don't overheat ,I'm a career carpenter and have much experience with circ saws .
I appreciate you sharing.
The heat is on the batteries , an copper wire, but is a new model and new bateries tabless .. this milwauke is regual saw vs rear hand , is coming the rear handle it burst 60v
Its a new saw. A New more copper dense motor, with new Forge batteries to handle the heat and power draw.
@amac4170 Sorry they still overheat
Also a career carpenter and can tell you're one of the career carpenters that's full of shit on the jobsite lol
12Ah for Circular Saw 😂 That's why is little bit better than DeWalt 577😂😂😂
The last gen was also kitted with a 12ah HO battery as well. I would say that this saw isn’t looking to be competitive with the Flexvolt 7-1/4” DCS578.
@@TinkerWithTools 3 years i used my DeWalt DCS578 i have and 577 but more of the time i am using 578 i will never change it because i am getting older 😂 not young but i will believe in Milwaukee when i see to be Sponsored some of The Best Team in F1 😉 like DeWalt are on McLaren F1 and until then i wish Milwaukee a good luck
DEWALT has a big following in the UK from what I have seen so it makes sense for them to work with F1. Glad you have tools that you like!
@@TinkerWithTools Thanks for answering but i am not from Uk i work with Uk tourists in my Country winter like Ski instructor from 30 years. The rest of time i am Building Construction's and Roofs
I was just referring to the popularity of both McLaren F1 and DEWALT in the UK making their partnership make a little more sense.
The Dewalt wins easily if you put the same blade on! You cut with a butterknife for the Dewalt only 😀🤣😂 what a hack!
The Dewalt was cutting with the blade that it came with(a thin kerf blade) as was the Milwaukee (a thick kerf blade). Only the Makita, which I have owned for roughly 2 years at this point was using anything other than the included blade.
Type of blade and quality are 2 different things entirely. Dewalt blades are the worst. I’m sure Milwaukee has improved their saw (all of them are terrible aside from their reciprocators and oscillators), but this is not apples to apples.
You are right. It wasn’t apples to apples in the comparison and it was really intended to be. They aren’t the same type of saw either. The inclusion of those saws is merely meant to provide a frame of reference for the new saw.
I’m guessing the batteries were all 12AH at least?
Each tool was tested in the battery that they come kitted with. In the case of the DEWALT that is a 9ah Flexvolt battery and in the Makita that is a 4ah battery.
Pity they don't last very long 😮
8:42-8:48 bad designed saw guard, it jerks the whole saw during open, shame Milwaukee, shame!