SWIFT BOATS BRAVE SAILORS and THE LAST PATROL

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июл 2020
  • Gene W. Frederickson of Brown Water Productions created this historic collection of the Vietnam War's Brown Water Navy. The forty-five minute film is narrated by Monte Markham. It includes a final ride of Vietnam Swift Boat veteran officers and enlisted men aboard PCF-1 and PCF-2 from where they were refurbished to the Washington Navy Yard. Thanks to Mr. Frederickson for having for the foresight in documenting the gallant contribution and sacrifice made by Naval and Coast Guard servicemen during the Vietnam War.

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  • @nghiam8435
    @nghiam8435 8 дней назад

    I served in one of PCF in Việt Nam from 1972-1975 in the middle VN . Love it . I am proudly serving our Republic of the south Việt Nam . Thank you for you great serve , and sacrifice time in Douth Việt Bam . 👍✌️🙏

  • @triumphmanful
    @triumphmanful 3 года назад +21

    My Uncle (US Navy ) saved a few boats when he was stationed on land at a swamp boat docking and maintenance station. He was getting mortar fire from the VC and ran out and drove the boats into deep water. He got back later and a fellow sailor said "hey your leg is bleeding !" Apparently he felt little or nothing. He got a Purple Heart for that shrapnel wound. He was a 30 year Navy Lifer ! He was one of my heroes ! I made a framed memorial for him , when he passed on. He deserved much more !

  • @gregwarner3753
    @gregwarner3753 3 года назад +27

    I spent '66 & '67 as a River Rat out of Vung Tau and the Hon Roi Islands. Someday I will forget most of it.

    • @pappyd8417
      @pappyd8417 3 года назад +3

      You never forget you learn to live with it, God Bless You..

    • @gregwarner3753
      @gregwarner3753 3 года назад +4

      @@pappyd8417 that has worked for the last 55 years.

    • @jakeharris7730
      @jakeharris7730 3 года назад +1

      I'm an Afghanistan combat vet, Army Recon. Weve shed the same blood in the same mud. God bless you

    • @gregwarner3753
      @gregwarner3753 3 года назад +1

      @@jakeharris7730 Thank you.

    • @doubleshotgun02
      @doubleshotgun02 3 года назад +1

      Good man

  • @johnaconservativevet361
    @johnaconservativevet361 2 года назад +16

    I manned the aft gun on PCF 1 during the Invasion of Panama Operation Just Cause in 1989. These men are my “forefathers” and am so honored to be able to say “I am a Swiftboat Sailor”!! So thankful PCF 1 is a memorial at the Washington DC Navy Yard!

    • @drdarwin1
      @drdarwin1 2 года назад +6

      I’d like to talk to you..I’m a Vet and a writer. My unit was at Rio Hato.

  • @jackmorris9469
    @jackmorris9469 3 года назад +17

    That was my uncle at the end they was talking about John Patrick McDermott.. I never met him he died before I was born...

  • @bobmartin3018
    @bobmartin3018 3 года назад +14

    I was on the 46 boat in 68

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 3 года назад +4

    Member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club here. USS Newport News (CA-148) The Last all Gun Heavy Cruiser. My time aboard 1968-69-70 Call sign THUNDER flag hoist; November - India - Quebec - Quebec

  • @bradslepicka9762
    @bradslepicka9762 3 года назад +19

    I was on the 97 and 94 boats in 1970

  • @rogerkilby4303
    @rogerkilby4303 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was with the Seabees that built you Swiftboat and PBR camp in Ha Tien. MCB 5 !!! you were a good bunch of guyes !!!

  • @mirage4456
    @mirage4456 2 года назад +4

    Loved the film of the Seal with his stoner 63a, they were so happy when we picked them up on time and at
    the right location.

    • @valdivia1234567
      @valdivia1234567 10 месяцев назад

      What kind of training did the Navy have brown water Sailors go through? I've always been curious about that.

  • @williamwyckoff3963
    @williamwyckoff3963 2 года назад +5

    There a great bunch of Men !! Bless you all.

  • @alswann2702
    @alswann2702 2 года назад +4

    I rode on one as a kid in Frisco during Fleet Week. What a blast!

  • @Joellikestobox
    @Joellikestobox 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you all for your service

  • @Discohit
    @Discohit Год назад +7

    A blot on the entire navy and it’s Officers corps. The medals he “threw over the fence “ in DC were only the “I was there too”. He had no personal decorations.

  • @janineboitard6492
    @janineboitard6492 6 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent post! Thank you!

  • @markbrown5447
    @markbrown5447 Год назад +1

    Thank you for your service

  • @tonytran1641
    @tonytran1641 2 года назад +3

    I’m a kid of American soldier before Vn war, I was born in 1973 , one time I saw my father in pictures, he have upper beard 🧔‍♂️ I hope 🤞I can find him, I want to know who is he and how he looks like !… I’m away thinking about him and wishing to see him again 🥲🥲
    My mother name is Ghe if you remember!!!! Now I’m living here in the America 🇺🇸 I and my family are so happy and blessed 😊 Gods blessings America 🇺🇸

  • @randymcpherson2308
    @randymcpherson2308 9 месяцев назад +4

    what a disgrace that they let John Kerry preside over that swiftboat retirement. a dishonorably discharged person from the Navy!!

    • @bill2066
      @bill2066 9 месяцев назад +3

      I WAS JUST ABOUT to Post the exact same thing....

  • @lydiarosalieanndamiano7206
    @lydiarosalieanndamiano7206 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for your service !🙏🇺🇸🎉

  • @1995jug
    @1995jug 3 года назад +12

    Thanks to the guys and gals who served, what a shame they come home and be spit on by our own people.

    • @danieloriley8282
      @danieloriley8282 3 года назад

      Like Kerry!Who threw his Medals (Supposedly) over the fence at DC and called our Shipmates Cruel inhumane Killers!

    • @jrjohnryanjr
      @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад +2

      @@danieloriley8282 90% of the men who served under kerry on the zswifts actively campaigned for him
      He won 2 Dtsrs a Siver and a Bronze agter volunteering for Bietnam repeatedly
      And you?

    • @johnaconservativevet361
      @johnaconservativevet361 2 года назад +1

      @@jrjohnryanjr
      Where are you getting your numbers? 90%?? Tell you what, go on facebooks Swiftboat Sailors page and post your comment that he was that well liked and he volunteered multiple times…
      Bet you won’t because you know that’s crap!

  • @user-nc3pt7zc3c
    @user-nc3pt7zc3c Месяц назад

    Nothing but Respect for the Swift Boat Sailors. They were floating targets in Vietnam. No hole to crawl into, just open water, I was a Tin Can Sailor, we would give them Anything they needed when they came alongside.

  • @burtthebeast4239
    @burtthebeast4239 2 года назад

    Wow, just when I thought I saw everything.... Amazing video. Thank you.

  • @AndrewTa530
    @AndrewTa530 Год назад +6

    God bless the saliors of the United States Navy!

  • @guymclaughlin260
    @guymclaughlin260 3 года назад +14

    Simply Amazing. Thanks to all who served,in what ever capacity!

  • @michaeledlin9995
    @michaeledlin9995 3 года назад +5

    I crewed a 50ftr derivative of the ones used in Vietnam. USAF WATERCRAFT TYNDALL AFB PB 50-2108. Well watered down version.

  • @angularangular750
    @angularangular750 3 года назад +51

    This Guy John Kerry should be charged on Treason. My uncle was left behind because of this dude who refused to fight. A disgrace dude.

    • @brandoncargill9837
      @brandoncargill9837 3 года назад +10

      100%. Good tribute until he started talking.

    • @davidsauer6286
      @davidsauer6286 2 года назад +7

      Kerry the Hero of Vietnam...as viewed by the Northern aggressors...awarded himself the Silver Star for action in which he ran from while other boats were engaged. It's amazing that the other Brown Water Sailors allowed him to participate in the last patrol.

    • @kevinjacobson751
      @kevinjacobson751 9 месяцев назад

      @@davidsauer6286 That simply not true about his silver star that he earned. He did earn this medal and theres plenty of information about it. Information during the swift boat bullshit and today. Probably just a maga cultist lie, we are used to it and blow it off just as we do trumps bullshit. He can't just award himself a silver star. The action would have been investigated and most of the soldiers there would all have been talked to as witnesses. Then his superior would present it to him. Just gave himself a medal... come on thats not how it works.

  • @alainbruch7912
    @alainbruch7912 2 года назад

    Thank u for the movie
    Take care yourself vétérans
    I'm french🎩💪

  • @user-pm3lm2cg3v
    @user-pm3lm2cg3v 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent ❤

  • @mirage4456
    @mirage4456 2 года назад +2

    The one thing I hated was searching those Junks, especially the ones with the carved dragon heads.
    Would much rather be in a fire fight for some reason.

  • @willemvanlent6955
    @willemvanlent6955 2 года назад +1

    GREAT POWERBOATS THOUGH!!!

  • @bryanhubbard7300
    @bryanhubbard7300 Год назад +5

    John Kerry had no business being there. On behalf of my father "Welcome Home" to all the Vietnam vets out there.🇺🇲🏴‍☠️🇺🇲🏴‍☠️🇺🇲🏴‍☠️🇺🇲🏴‍☠️🇺🇲

  • @pedalingthru2719
    @pedalingthru2719 Год назад +1

    It's 55 years since the American War and the government of Vietnam is still standing strong. The same thing happened in Afghanistan and Iraq. The moral of the story is never invade another country. People will never give up the fight for there own country no matter how screwed up it is.

  • @AdamosDad
    @AdamosDad 3 года назад +7

    Had to ruin an awesome video with John Kerry.

  • @billexusaf1542
    @billexusaf1542 3 года назад +26

    This is a great tribute to a great bunch of men and their boats. It's too bad they had to end it by including John Kerry.

    • @triumphmanful
      @triumphmanful 3 года назад +2

      Kerry put a mop on his head and thought he was handsome ! DUH

    • @user-lk2cj2qs1d
      @user-lk2cj2qs1d Год назад

      the Kerry thing was just right wing BS Most of Kerry's former crewmates have stated that SBVT's allegations are false.

  • @petersclafani4370
    @petersclafani4370 2 года назад

    I had the opportunity to see in Freeport l.i. ny ww2 pt boat. What a sight

  • @colinmccauley3301
    @colinmccauley3301 3 года назад +26

    the only blot on the Swift Boat reputation was john kerry.

    • @pappyd8417
      @pappyd8417 3 года назад +4

      At least he served instead President Bone Spurs,

    • @tracylemme1375
      @tracylemme1375 3 года назад +5

      Not only did Kerry serve, he was injured. I was in the Mekong in 68-69 and believe me when I say that anyone who served on a Swifty was in real danger at all times when in the field. All sailors who served on Swift boats have my most deepest respect. Including John Kerry.

    • @colinmccauley3301
      @colinmccauley3301 3 года назад +2

      @@tracylemme1375that's not what's been said about kerry over the years

    • @tracylemme1375
      @tracylemme1375 3 года назад +4

      @@colinmccauley3301 what has been said about Kerry was paid for by the Koch brothers.

    • @colinmccauley3301
      @colinmccauley3301 3 года назад +7

      @@tracylemme1375 verified by many of his shipmates. kerry is a coward. check his DD-214

  • @georgecurtis6463
    @georgecurtis6463 3 года назад +10

    A friend was on one of those patrol boats. He manned the front gun. He eventually got wounded. Was not an easy thing to do.

    • @rogerfournier3284
      @rogerfournier3284 3 года назад +4

      Not easy at all. Beyond Purple hearts.

    • @zacwood821
      @zacwood821 3 года назад

      What boat was he on

    • @georgecurtis6463
      @georgecurtis6463 3 года назад +1

      @@zacwood821 sadly I have no idea. He just talked about being on a river boat and manning the front 50s. He talked a little but not much either. He was still suffering from his wounds but at times I think it was more PTSD. We were in a motorcycle club and I think riding helped him a lot as it helped me. Last time I saw him he was going full time into gold hunting rather than a hobby. Doing well from what I saw.

  • @dennisg560
    @dennisg560 2 года назад +16

    Very Informative and an accurate tribute to the men who patrolled the rivers and canals in the Delta, Why did you have to demean the memory of the brave men who manned these watercraft with that COWARD john kerry, what a disgrace.

  • @MrReadandlearn
    @MrReadandlearn 3 года назад +8

    Now they're in DC.

    • @johnaconservativevet361
      @johnaconservativevet361 2 года назад

      There is one PCF at the Washington Navy Yard. It is PCF Hull number 1. I actually rode it during the invasion in 1989 when it was in Panama.

  • @user-lk2cj2qs1d
    @user-lk2cj2qs1d Год назад

    great video can't find anything on the Junk force SAT CONG

  • @turkeyslayer63
    @turkeyslayer63 2 года назад +1

    Anyone here remember Enlisted Dave Smith or Lt. Dan Marshall they were both on river boats in Nam

    • @davewait6469
      @davewait6469 Год назад

      Do you remember. : RON. WAIT. Swift boats. …………?

  • @railroad9000
    @railroad9000 3 года назад +1

    Disappointed that no mention was made of the MSO's on MARKET TIME.
    Patrolled between the DE's and the PCF's

  • @pleassave
    @pleassave Год назад

    My dad was petty officer first class and was the captain of two boats
    “River destroyers” was there Patch.

  • @johntrolinger3706
    @johntrolinger3706 3 года назад +19

    Why did that trader John Kerry speak at this ceremony?

  • @broznkyra4853
    @broznkyra4853 3 года назад +1

    Read about this in Brown Water & Black Berets...

  • @badguy1481
    @badguy1481 3 года назад +2

    There were MANY "no go" areas in South Vietnam and Cambodia we couldn't attack or bomb. And we KNEW they were North Vietnamese Supply and RR Depots. One such was the Chup plantation that supplied Michelin with its rubber. If we bombed the heavy concentration of North Vietnamese encamped within, we'd have to pay Michelin for any rubber trees we damaged. (At least THAT was what I was told). I would GUESS many of those troops and much of their equipment we would have to later fight during the siege of An Loc in April and May of 1972.

  • @rogerfournier3284
    @rogerfournier3284 3 года назад +1

    The Swift Boat yacht club.

  • @willfriar8054
    @willfriar8054 Год назад +1

    I watched it joking around thinking maybe I'll see John Kerry shooting a gun. Oh no I saw him come up to the dock and step away from the helm and let someone else dock the boat

  • @soulfly4076
    @soulfly4076 3 года назад +1

    holy shit that cow tho !!!!!!!!!

  • @somethingelse4878
    @somethingelse4878 2 года назад

    How did they not remember pt boats from 15 years before

  • @daveryan6426
    @daveryan6426 3 года назад +9

    Good and interesting. Ruined by having that POES john kerry in at the 34min mark.

    • @karynkline9098
      @karynkline9098 3 года назад +2

      My husband Robert Kline was a Swift Boat Officer. He agrees with your assessment of John Kerry the Traitor. He was going to get a "Less than honorable' discharge until Clinton changed to Honorable. My husband was on the following boats 37, 9, 42 , 84, 27, 34, 13, 40. He too was awarded bronze and others awards but doesn't really talk about it. He never went over to the Viet Cong & sided with our enemy like Kerry and Fonda. I am sure if he had he would still be in the brig. Believe what you want that is part of the problem.

    • @jrjohnryanjr
      @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад +1

      @@karynkline9098 he also got a silver star and a bronze star and of the 10 men on his 2 boats 9 campaigned for him
      The 10th could not be located
      Kerry has a super Cush job as an officer in the admirals flagship
      He repeatedly requested swift boat duty

    • @jrjohnryanjr
      @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад +2

      @@karynkline9098 there is no truth to that
      Clinton had no federal authority over anything in 1978
      If your husband told you that he is a LIAR

    • @Radbach1
      @Radbach1 3 года назад

      @@jrjohnryanjr My you are a class act.

    • @jrjohnryanjr
      @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад

      @@Radbach1 thank you

  • @broznkyra4853
    @broznkyra4853 3 года назад +1

    How about telling the story of James Elliott Williams???

  • @joshuaerickson2458
    @joshuaerickson2458 Год назад +1

    @17:05 did that cutter shoot and sink an unarmed transport with 5 inch guns?

  • @jeffhendrickson9262
    @jeffhendrickson9262 3 года назад +6

    Kerry showed up I LEFT.

  • @constitutionalUSA
    @constitutionalUSA 3 года назад +12

    Ugh, John Kerry

  • @fullthrottlejeffry
    @fullthrottlejeffry Месяц назад

    This was before John Kerry was found to be "forgetful" about his military history...

  • @roycolglazier1061
    @roycolglazier1061 Год назад +2

    These brave crews performed their greatest service to this country when they rightly & effectively ended John Kerry's presidential aspirations! Long may they prosper!

    • @ryanward8039
      @ryanward8039 9 месяцев назад

      For some people, their fight for this nation doesn't necessarily mean that they were good people. I will always respect their service, however I refuse to respect or comply with their agenda to take our rights and freedoms. Kerry is one of those few of which I speak.

  • @winstonparker6
    @winstonparker6 2 года назад +1

    NON GRATUM ANUS RODENTUM
    Tunnel Rats...
    P.O.W.
    M.I.A.
    Never Forget

  • @professorshermanpeabody1237
    @professorshermanpeabody1237 Год назад +1

    stolen arms? VC were shooting M-16

  • @richardhudak4571
    @richardhudak4571 10 месяцев назад +2

    U.S.N.1969

  • @cs-vf2de
    @cs-vf2de 3 года назад

    I bet they never ran out of ketchup

  • @jimnunn9232
    @jimnunn9232 9 месяцев назад

    The commentator gives the impression the the Swift boat fired on the VC first. This breaks the first "Rules of engagement" he also gives the Impression that the Swift boat was inland when it engages the VC. This breaks the third "Rules of Engagement" for SWIFT boats.
    On the other hand I would have given the OIC and Crew a big ataboy.

  • @ledinhdong7743
    @ledinhdong7743 3 года назад +4

    The US soldiers look like they go hunting.

  • @thebestofj.fraley
    @thebestofj.fraley 3 года назад +1

    My uncle's (2 of them, twins) Served on 2 different destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, and off the Delta area's. Even they liked these boats because it made their jobs easier. This is the first time I actually did not hear Blah, blah, blah, out of John Kerry's mouth. You could actually see his admiration for these boats and his servicemen.

  • @grammyhall53
    @grammyhall53 3 года назад +5

    and what is the coward kerry doing on it.

  • @grammyhall53
    @grammyhall53 3 года назад +2

    westmoreland went there a poor man and left very very wealthy.

    • @tombabcock4967
      @tombabcock4967 3 года назад +1

      as did LBJ...thats the party of war at its best

    • @dennisgorse2833
      @dennisgorse2833 2 года назад

      Thanks to the golden triangle

  • @spankyharland9845
    @spankyharland9845 3 года назад +4

    Most young men joined the US Navy so they would not have to step onto the soil of Vietnam. They'd be safe out on some big Naval ship in the Gulf of Tonkin...either in Yankee or Dixie station- so those who ended up on PBR /Swift boats riverine duty must have done something bad to get such a dangerous job assignment. Many of my PBR vets who did riverine duty, were doing it due to punishment, I am not saying all riverine sailors did something bad, but I sure as heck would rather be on a big ship in the sea and not up in some dangerous river of ambush in the Mekong Delta.....

    • @johnaconservativevet361
      @johnaconservativevet361 2 года назад

      Duty to the small boats was not a punishment.

    • @spankyharland9845
      @spankyharland9845 2 года назад +2

      @@johnaconservativevet361 true, not in all cases- but most of the guys I know who joined the Navy did it so they would not have to step foot on Vietnam soil let alone be in a plastic patrol boat winding up the rivers of the Mekong. I had two friends who got busted for minor crimes on the big ship- their next duty assignment was brown river boats.

    • @robertfandel9442
      @robertfandel9442 2 года назад +3

      Bullshit my uncle was on one and he never had any trouble in the navy.

    • @spankyharland9845
      @spankyharland9845 2 года назад

      @@robertfandel9442 some guys in the Navy wanted riverine duty, I am sure your uncle was one of them. I work with Vietnam vets and they are the ones that told me they screwed up and ended up doing riverine patrol which was risky business, that is why they joined the Navy, to stay away from risky business. So you can direct your bullshit to those guys who served in the Navy and ended up in the brown water fleet.

    • @kevinjacobson751
      @kevinjacobson751 9 месяцев назад

      @@robertfandel9442 that you know of anyway

  • @jrjohnryanjr
    @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад +5

    90% of john Kerry’s swift boat crew campaigned for him

    • @msmith2568
      @msmith2568 3 года назад +11

      yeah and Kerry sold out to Iran. He's a traitor.

    • @jrjohnryanjr
      @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад +4

      @@msmith2568 lol
      Did Qanon tell you that ?

    • @davidmiller6981
      @davidmiller6981 3 года назад +11

      @@msmith2568 3 purple hearts given to himself scratches from mangrove branches then skiped out of country like al gore manning his typewriter

    • @jmc4181
      @jmc4181 3 года назад +15

      David Miller and don’t forget how he sat down side by side with Hanoi Jane Fonda to disparage our warriors, telling lies about them while they were over there fighting and dying. This guy is a creep and a phony and a liar. Oh, those are words we use daily to describe any Democrat.

    • @jrjohnryanjr
      @jrjohnryanjr 3 года назад +1

      @@jmc4181 less than 2% of all the Americans who fought in Vietnam volunteered to serve a 2nd tour that dhows how much support for the war had

  • @stacylockhart9684
    @stacylockhart9684 3 года назад +25

    Good men and John Kerry wasn't one of them.

    • @Gordonz1
      @Gordonz1 3 года назад +2

      You do have evidence supporting that belief. The military I believe assessed his merit. Who is feeding you BS now

    • @gatthom1
      @gatthom1 3 года назад +2

      Still promoting the LIE! "Gulf of Tonkin incident"

    • @stacylockhart9684
      @stacylockhart9684 3 года назад +1

      @@gatthom1 true , the Main reason for the Vietnam war was to contain communists and help S. Vietnam. The US succeeded in greatly reducing the number of communist shitbags from Planet Earth but obviously not enough.

    • @stacylockhart9684
      @stacylockhart9684 3 года назад +2

      His own team says he was a dirtbag.

    • @orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617
      @orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617 3 года назад +2

      and trump too

  • @joebournat
    @joebournat 3 года назад +3

    All that fire power and all those brave men and all the pomp and circumstance surrounding their military, America will never be allowed to forget they got their backsides kicked out of Vietnam.

    • @bleedaire
      @bleedaire 3 года назад +8

      US troops left following the Paris Peace Accord in 1973. The few US combat forces left in ‘73 with little fanfare as South Vietnamese military assumed full responsibility for their country. Two years later in 1975 North Vietnam threw aside the agreements signed in ‘73 and invaded the South eventually taking full control without any interference from the US . The US military was never “kicked out....”

    • @johnaconservativevet361
      @johnaconservativevet361 9 месяцев назад

      @joebournat
      You REALLY need to open a history book and read it!

  • @Mr_Dopey
    @Mr_Dopey 6 месяцев назад

    Post

  • @stephenmcgraw8871
    @stephenmcgraw8871 3 года назад +3

    Was the Infamously Hypocritical Lurch Kerry still throwing OTHER people`s medals in this one?Like Howie Carr says,he can`t pass on an available microphone....the GALL of that S.O.B.

  • @hughsmith4464
    @hughsmith4464 3 года назад +2

    All that and we lost.... All for what.

    • @bleedaire
      @bleedaire 3 года назад +5

      Ask any of the Vietnamese immigrants who fled their country when the North invaded in 1975. You’ll get a perspective from people who appreciated our efforts and maybe even see sense their gratitude whether you earned it or not.

    • @danieloriley8282
      @danieloriley8282 3 года назад +3

      We Veitnam Veterans didnt lose we left with 1973 Paris Peace Agreemenr the Democrats abandoned our allies in 1975!

    • @hughsmith4464
      @hughsmith4464 3 года назад +1

      Sorry Boz, your part of the problem we are in constant unjust wars. We have not "Won" a war since WW2. The biggest reason has been because we don't have an idea what winning would look like. But we keep throwing our blood and treasure into them. It's a scam.

    • @hughsmith4464
      @hughsmith4464 3 года назад

      @@bleedaire i have been to Vietnam.

    • @bleedaire
      @bleedaire 3 года назад +1

      @@hughsmith4464 Have you discussed the subject with Vietnamese who fled VN after the Communist take -over in 1975 and are now settled in the US. They have a perspective that comes from actual experience rather than others who have never lived in that country during that period.