I respect the Vietnam veterans more then any other conflict. My first year in the Army was in 1993. I served under the last of the 20-25 year men and women Vietnam vets. I got to hear some really good stories that never made it to any book or videos. The Vietnam war was the reason why I joined the Army. I used to idolize it as a child. All of the Rambo movies I watched. It was not till years later did I realized what a waste the war was on both sides. I hate the climate of the later 60s and the protestors. The Vietnam veterans for the most part joined to serve their country. The WW2 and Vietnam vets were the last to join for these reasons till 9/11.
US never won that war... They pulled out... They tested whether they were going to test and.. by!!!... I was never up to the ground forces 😂.. It was to get USAF better!!!
We were the opposite. Every neighborhood had some Vietnam veteran messed up, Unshaven, Disheveled and living in their parents basement. The parents saw this and pushed us all to attend college rather than the military. I wish I would have now, but back then it was too soon after Vietnam to be gung ho about the military.
Vietnam Army Huey pilot 11-67 to 1-70. Never had a Huey let me down and was fortunate to pick up 54 people who had been shot down. Most dangerous missions were over North Vietnam and Laos with MACV-SOG. Most rewarding was flying troops in from the field who were going home at the end of their tour. 19 when I got there and just turned 22 when I came home and got out. Most rewarding flight as a civilian was my first flight in the B-777. Flew to Frankfurt, Germany and the Check Airman was also an Army Warrant Officer helicopter pilot in Vietnam. We did have a Cold Beer.
Anybody wanting to read a truly excellent authentic book about Huey pilots and missions in Vietnam should read 'Chickenhawk' by Robert Mason ! You definitely will not regret it.
Johnson and Macnamara should have been indicted for war crimes against their own forces. A special salute to the Thunderchief pilots and bears who incurred so many needless casualties.
@The Richest Man In Babylon Nah.. Now you have the Military Industrial Complex in your ear... Kennedy was gonna stop the war.. That's one reason why he was ASSASSINATED. Plus.. Communist, Marxism, Facism Cannot be allowed.. Cause they don't work. Born to fail ideologies..
I'm 54, born Oct 65, youngest of 5 children. I have 2 older brothers, the oldest, and 2 sisters. They are right much older than me. The oldest had a low draft Lotto # 36. He Enlisted before being drafted. He was told he would be going to Germany to hold the line against the Soviet Union! Well he got an all expense paid free trip to the South East Asian Paradise called Vietnam! U.S.Army Infantry! Changed him forever! Dr Jekyll & Mr.Hyde, Bipolar and won't take Med's for it. Self medicate's with alcohol, few month's on, then a few month's off! I love him to death and alway's will! He will give a stranger the shirt off his back, or his last peace of bread, even if he was starving! He's really a SUPER guy at heart, but that switch can go off in a second! Temper from Hell! My oldest sister's husband, was Class of 68! He enlisted also, U.S.Army! His dad was drafted early and spent all of WWII in the Pacific, Island hopping till after the end.His dad told him if he enlisted ,he may not have to go.Well he went there also. My Dad's sister got these copper P.O.W. M.I.A. bracelets for most of my extended family. My other older brother and sister's got one. It had the name and rank and some number's of one of our P.O.W.'s or M.I.A's on them. You were supposed to wear them until there name was on list's of them coming home. Some guy's made it back. My brother and sister still have their's and they were M.I.A.'s. May they forever R.I.P! I begged for one also,but was told I was too young to have one! I lived near, and road the School Bus with a girl who was few years older than me, and our family's knew each other. She had an older sister also.Her Dad was an Air Force Pilot, shot down over North Vietnam, and is still M.I.A. She didn't even remember her Dad, and her older sister can a little. Their mother never remarried and has past away now. Total waste of Precious Human Life for nothing! Never start a fight unless you finish it! SEMPER FI ....................................
Look how many ppl are leaping at the chance to have an untested vaccine shot into their body, just because their Government tells them to. So I can see how ppl believed Agent Orange was safe in the 60s, because their Government just lied. And No, Im not one of the weirdo conspiracy theorists, that think Covid doesnt exist.
@@tfs203 due to my research into my dads "service related death"..agent orange..I now know about the tactics of our (many) world governments..I will NOT ever take this trial medication (jab).
@@nikiwagner6879 Sorry about your Father, thats just sad. But you are right, and 10s of millions think the same! The fastest that anyother medication/vaccine, has gotten approved for public distribution, was 7yrs! The average it takes any drug to go from discovery to public consumption, is 12yrs! They had this in 6mths? I dont think so comrade! Even my Lawyer was hospitalized for 10 days(4 in the ICU) after his first shot. He told me he will NEVER take that shit again, because it was the worst he felt in decades. My Doctor, who is also the county coroner here, said he does not recommend it, for healthy adults! Old ppl, and ppl with compromised immune systems, are a different story he said. I tested positive for Covid, and never knew I had it, never had a symptom, yet my Father got sick as a dog, and developed Pneumonia.
Jack Smith, born in Paris, was a highly decorated U.S. combat veteran of the Vietnam War. As a private in an Army rifle company, he was wounded in the battle of the Ia Drang Valley, one of the key American engagements with North Vietnamese regular forces. Smith was awarded a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart. Years later, he returned to the Vietnam battlefield for special reports for ABC’s “Nightline” and “DAY ONE.” A number of years later now, I remember that story (DAY ONE) on TV. A friend of mine who was in the Army and dealt with combat in Vietnam, was interested to watch "DAY ONE" as he didn't see it. I recorded it, so he did get to see it later. He liked the program, but the sad thing is, later he died from a motorcycle accident in Minnesota. I was lucky enough to be on 2 aircraft carriers during Vietnam, the USS Hancock CVA-19 and the USS Bon Homme Richard CVA-31, 1965-1967 on Yankee/Dixie station during that time. I worked in the ready room where the pilots gathered before their flight. The sad thing is some pilots never returned to the ship! Lost 8 pilots on the Hancock and 16 pilots on the Bon Homme Richard. What did Vietnam get anything positive for the United States...ZERO! Now Vietnam makes junk for the U.S., just like China does! JFK planned on ending the Vietnam war when the Special Forces were only in Vietnam. He knew Vietnam wasn't worth killing 1 American for no reason, and that's what it turned out to be! A few people I know from my home town have died from Agent Orange! After JFK was assassinated, LBJ escalated the Vietnam war and that's when I was transferred from NAS Oceana, Va. to the USS Hancock in Alameda, California. Every American should be allowed to watch President Eisenhower as he warned us about the MIC, the Military Industrial Complex. On January 17, 1961, Dwight D. Eisenhower ends his presidential term by warning the nation about the increasing power of the military-industrial complex. His remarks, issued during a televised farewell address to the American people, were particularly significant since Ike had famously served the nation as military commander of the Allied forces during WWII. Eisenhower urged his successors to strike a balance between a strong national defense and diplomacy in dealing with the Soviet Union. He did not suggest arms reduction and in fact acknowledged that the bomb was an effective deterrent to nuclear war. However, cognizant that America’s peacetime defense policy had changed drastically since his military career, Eisenhower expressed concerns about the growing influence of what he termed the military-industrial complex.
Imagine how scary that would be. You're screaming through the air in a multimillion dollar plane and all of a sudden you are getting beaten by peasants.
Ya, I was carpetbombed by B52's near firebase nine when we almost got over run by 2,000 NVA during TET. Also almost got naped at Jackson's Hole too. Thank God for flyboys. They saved my butt a coupla times.
McNamara was weak out of the barrel. They should have combined "Rolling Thunder", "Linebacker I" and "Linebacker II" into the first year of the war and it would have ended before it really ever got started. Hindsight is always 20/20 though.
As quoted in an earlier episode of this story..... "If anybody thinks it's a good idea to go to war, they're crazy!!" "If anybody has never walked a battlefield with 2 or 3 hundred torn, bloating American and North Vietnamese bodies, then they shouldn't feel qualified to talk about the glory of war, because there is none. War sucks!!!"
Project ranchhand killed and disabled babies that still suffer today. Brave men indeed. Flying over the jungle in the day, drinking beers in the evening.
Every time I see this type of video I see how incompetent our leaders are. War is war, you declare war and hit everything and everyone. There are no restrictions is war period. It makes me sick we lost all of our men because of freaking rules in a war? We are reliving this with Afghanistan right now. Complete failure with our leaders. ,Our military can win if you let our Generals do what they are trained to do.
Win what? Battles? Then what? None of these wars benefited the life of the average working person in the US. The leaders aren't incompetent. Their agenda is different than yours and mine. All the presidents and politicians who brought us into these conflicts are doing just fine and so are the leaders of industry that paid for their campaigns. Ask a vet how they are. Ask a Mcdonalds employee if Vietnam made the burgers better. The soldiers were the best among us and we sent them on a fools errand...time and time again. Sad that we can't separate the amazing stories of soldiers in battle from the terrible and illegitimate agendas of the politicians that sent them there in the first place. We relived it with Afghanistan 20 years ago when we decided to go in there with no clear objective and no plan to leave. If you think the mistake is happening now, you're 20 years and a lot of wasted death and destruction, aka what they're trained to do, too late.
secondary the primary reason the vatican wanted to set up a roman catholic base in S Vietnam. the monks totching themselves in the streets of saigon? yeah, the catholic controlled south were persecuting and torturing them. the genocidal inquesitions never ceased after the dark age.
Never heard said , those brave young soldiers , dedicated soldiers , proud of my soldiers , country who dont love their soldier or defend them deserve very little in life in other words deserve nothing .
Those "brave young soldiers" should NOT have been involved in a war against the Vietnamese people who were fighting for their right to determine their own future! No...I was not proud of friends, relatives, and other people of color who were fighting to prevent the Vietnamese people from determining their OWN destiny!
@@robertroselle3341 you do realize not all Vietnamese people wanted to live under ho chi minhs communism, thats why the arvn existed, to fight the pavn. Vietnam was much more complex than a simple American anti communist crusade.
With all do respect to the service of all those who fought survived died in battle or came home or never came back at all, I thank you. This war was about munitions and armaments too the benefit of senators Congress men and women on both party members heavily invested in stocks in the INDUSTRIAL MILITARY INDUSTRIAL FACTORIES. No big deal you think? Your GREAT GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WILL STILL BE STUFFIING THE POCKETS OF THOSE INVESTORS and their heirs for many more decades too come in the form of employment taxes. For that war and the ones since, or too come. Put an end to any Gov leadership position profiting from anything crossing their desk for signature.
These men were some of the best fighting men since world war 2. These men fought just as hard and well as there fathers did. It's absolutely a shame that they were treated so poorly when they came home from fighting a war their country called upon them to do. God bless these men, and welcome home. Thank you for your service.
@@robertroselle3341 the government sent them. That is not the veterans fault!! If anyone should have been disrespected would have been the government leaders not the soldiers!! And were there to help. Why does the us have to get into most war/ conflicts they do
@flyinryan1986 I've heard alot of people say they could've ran to Canada & hid out..... I think maybe they didn't think that through thoroughly before they spoke 🤔 now I know a few people did just that but I can't imagine.....& ALOT COULDNT do that they were KIDS & POOR NO$!!!!!!
Yeah great message here and recounts are tremendous and support from the people who have rescued soldiers from captivity and assault... my father is a Vietnam War veteran but I’m sorry for the truth about the people who have lost their lives for nothing
As a father that served in Vietnam I would not wish the same on any son of mine; I have three. However I don't regret 1 minute of my time served . I volunteered when you did not have to. I had wanted to be a soldier since I could remember. My friends wanted to be Firemen or Law Enforcement, I wanted to be a soldier. In 1967 at 17 yr. after talking my mom into signing permission ; I ENLISTED. At 17 yrs old I was too young to go to Vietnam but after 4 yrs in Europe MY MOS became a shortage in Vietnam. I volunteered again and after 30 days at home I Finally got to Vietnam 1971 Army Engineers. Hwy 1 building Bridges and Roads. Loved my service there.
I was in Vietnam as a USMC door gunner. We were there to assure democracy for the South Vietnamese. We weren't playing games for no reason. It was more than two years after we left that the South Vietnamese Army was defeated.
I sure am glad you made it home, Mr. Cale. If I were American myself, I'd say "welcome home". You guys deserved a warm welcome back home, not the kind you got back then.
The unrestricted bombing would not only would have SAVED more American soldiers' lives, but significantly affected the outcome of the war. An Army Vietnam vet once told me "you can't be in a war with one hand "tied behind your back, while the enemy is fighting "all-out." Good video. Thanks.
The war has been over for over 40 years...and the NLF won! What have they done since their victory that would have justified the racist war against them??
There is NOTHING that the U.S. military could have done to defeat the NLF! Even "bombing them back to the stone age" would not have helped! The Vietnamese people were determined to be FREE...to govern as THEY saw fit!!!
@@robertroselle3341 You have a mighty perverted sense of "freedom". Seek help immediately. Communism is a terminal cancer that can only be eradicated to cure.
@@robertroselle3341 free to overthrow the duly elected government of the Republic of South Vietnam, huh? All South Vietnam wanted was to be left alone by the North. What about their freedom, or the Hmong people in the hills that were slaughtered by the North?
@@robertroselle3341 free to overthrow the duly elected government of the Republic of South Vietnam, huh? All South Vietnam wanted was to be left alone by the North. What about their freedom, or the Hmong people in the hills that were slaughtered by the North?
Not just the airmen, which I was, but all 58,000+ of our soldiers from all branches and jobs that lost their lives when we could have done such a better job if we would have had leaders like we have now. I thank all current servicemen and veterans for their service to our country.
The slick,was always a reliable transport for the grunt in Vietnam taking you to a mission. and most importantly taking you out when things were to hot
All I would say that Uncle Sam did not want to win the Viet Nam War... How ever I feel bad for The VETS coming back Home.. The Damn Idiot civilians Treated them so badly...I respect all the VN Vets.
The key to winning wars is "overwhelming force". If you're not willing to use that, then you're better served to stay out of the conflict - if you can.
We could probably have bombed blah blah .....we could probably blah blah ....ultimately it boiled down to negotiations. Watch Ken Burns' The Vietnam War on Netflix . More balanced and objective
Those few minutes waiting in the LZ for casualties or troops to be loaded .......literally a sitting duck waiting for the bullet or RPG to arrive and ruin your day .....balls of steel !!!!!! 😬😬😬
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Because being emotionally fragile, and a weak victim, is the "In Thing" with alot of todays Society. Thats why we have so many unemployed, 30yr old virgins, living at home still, playing video games all night. My Grandfather wouldve disowned me on the spot! So I joined in 1997. But thankfully, I dont live in an area full of self loathing liberals, and delusional progressive cowards.
@@robertroselle3341 Awwww! Adorable! Another basement dweller, trying to start a useless argument while remaining anonymous! I guess not having a job, remaining celibate, as Mommy continues to tell your still her big man, builds some sense of false self confidence? RUclips is a great place for ppl like yourself! We both know you have never seen any conflict, besides yelling at your Parents!🤣
Englishman here. Just goes to show if you haven't got competent politicians and senior military leaders then more people will die. The amount of time armies are hamstrung by politics and budgetary cuts is astounding.
Having spent a few weeks in Vietnam in the early 2000 I was amazed how peaceful the towns and country folk were . The civilians showed me some of the raw damage the bombing caused , they had local memorials , shrines and photos , amazing. The country has recovered and evolved into a beautiful land . As usual $$$$ makes the difference between the have and have nots the same as the western world. RIP all civilians and soldiers of this terrible conflict.
So you think that going to war with China and the Soviet Union would have been a good idea! It is readily apparent that many...if not most of the people making comments on this page were not round at the time ... and have not a clue of what they are talking about!! Man is this country in BIG trouble!!!
@@robertroselle3341 China was already risking a war with China and btw Linebacker II proves that china doesn't care if Hanoi gets fucked. So, I think a US invasion up north Vietnam can happen with no issue.
Trick question….they didn’t want to win. How much money can be made from a 6 month war? Answer…a lot less than an 8 year protracted war that molds US resources into the population of the country. “War is a racket” -Audie Murphy(the United States’ most decorated soldier in all of it’s history)
@@robertroselle3341 My friend, no one commenting here has ANY say or influence on those choices. As always, people like you turn to blame your fellow countryman, while you continue to vote in the same politicians that keep wasting our money on war, foreign aid, ridiculous fascist support/control over private industry, etc. I do not want war with ANY country. However, if the USA is going to be involved in a military struggle, let it be legal(declared by CONGRESS), unlimited(no restricted targets and not slowly escalated), and, finally, anyone in Congress that votes to declare war needs to be required to have first of kin(son or daughter) involved on the FRONT lines. Otherwise, the only skin they have in the game is OUR children, and the money they stand to make from the lobbyists that are constantly in their ear selling them on the virtues of war and selling its trappings to other countries.
@@Ngườizôtri This shows how idiotic you are. If not knowing much, do like Vietnamese saying "Not knowing much, better sit at the corner and listen". Be civilized, wash your mouth before talking.
@@kiutong7311 lol you said with the tongue of descendant of VNCH(RVN), that makes sense now. Sell that history somewhere else. Only morons believe in that shit. So long, failure of creation.
It is now the accepted truth that the Gulf of Tompkin incident was a FF and did not occur. This should not have been misstated at the beginning of the video.
It was only recently that enough information was available to say that with any confidence. There were questions from the beginning but the irregularities took decades to filter out.
@@badguy1481 north vietnamese got run out??? if my history serves me correct, USA were the one that packed that bag and got the fuck outta there! lmao! truth hurts.
@@Paulywauly1969 bro... think about it!!! all that bomb dropping. air plane strikes, tanks, etc. USA had all the advantage! they were fighting against the vietnamese who only had rusty ass ak-47s! lol. they lost the war. it shouldnt have drag on for that long considering all the advantages they have. the politicians stepped in because this was going on longer than expected.
@@tyronejennings7703 have you ever been to war? ... there is no advantage when you are fighting a war 8000 miles away when the enemy are in their own back yard. General Giap famously said if the US had invaded the north the outcome would've been a different story. The fact is there were many restraints put on the military despite all the bombing etc by politicians that were dictating military strategy as a opposed to the top brass. The allies won every major battle but were let down by the policies.
I'm a Vietnam Vet and undoubtedly our hands-off policy and treating them with kids' gloves had no effect or impact on prolonging the war. They could do whatever they had to and we couldn't... isn't that how every military engages the enimy?
was at pleiku when VC /NVA breached the premiature , one sunday morning ARVN ( friendly troops) were said to be ON guard. 14 aircraft lost 12 americans. were drove out with apc and armor. 4th inf div. 10th armored B co.
As quoted by an army member in one of the earlier videos..... "If anybody thinks it's a good idea to go to war, they're crazy!!" "If anybody has never walked a battlefield with 2 or 3 hundred torn, bloating American and North Vietnamese bodies, then they shouldn't feel qualified to talk about the glory of war, because there is none. War sucks!!!"
I hear a lot how loyal and tenacious the Vietnamese were, if another country attacked the U.S., I am sure we would be just as tenacious. Maybe it's American ego that we thought they would just give up and surrender to us.
In theory, we were only acting in support of South Vietnam. If that government had not been so incredibly corrupt, and Ho Chi Minh had not been so much better, it might have worked.
Bạn phải tìm hiểu nhiều về lịch sử.. Hồ Chí Minh đã viết 12 lá thư nhờ sự giúp đỡ của tổng thống Mỹ.. nhưng tổng thống Mỹ bỏ ngoài tai và vài tháng sau còn đem quân xâm lược VN ...
Will they EVER learn that politicians should stick to politics and LET the military run the war...and every politician should’ve experienced military duty if not combat!
@Colin Cleveland We should have kept Linebacker 2 going for about 1 more week. Maybe not. Nixon didn't want to fight the Russians and the Chinese. Cold war turns into hot war. Both sides lost.
All of our technology and still couldn’t win because our soldiers were not allowed to really fight because our leaders held them back. If your going to war, go full force. Lives were destroyed and lost due to this war, and all wars.
Why does we need gulf of tonkin incident to justify a war? Why not the bombers strike Haifeng harbour and Honoi before they were armed with SAM? Was the great nation lose the war for being too humane?
Dù rằng đời ta thích hoa hồng..kẻ thù buộc ta ôm cây súng.. sự thật là người Việt nam không bao giờ muốn chiến tranh.. có thể quân đội Việt nam chưa bao giờ được xem là hùng mạnh.. nhưng chưa có quân đội hùng mạnh nào.. đánh bại được quân đội Việt nam..
Althought we love roses... the enemy made us holding guns.. The reality, Vietnamese people never want war. May be Vietnamese army never been considered as powerful but there is never powerful army can defeat us - our Vietnamese people.
Yep. The unfocused and inept approach of the Johnson administration virtually guaranteed we would have no chance. Add that to the lack of major infrastructure to target and it all starts to look like a really bad movie. As bad as Nixon was, he actually handled it much better than Johnson did.
The TRUTH: The American military WON the Vietnam War. FACT: It DESTROYED the Vietcong in 1968 and the North Vietnamese Army in 1972. FACT: Its so frightened the North Vietnamese government during the December 1972 bombing of Hanoi, they agreed to return to the Paris Peace table and sign a treaty in early 1973. FACT: Following that treaty, South Vietnam was a free and independent country. FACT: It was MORE of a "free and independent" country than even South Korea is TODAY, because a peace treaty between North and South Korea has NEVER BEEN SIGNED! FACT: Nixon LEARNED, in 1972, that the North Vietnamese mililtary was impotent to take over the South as long as B-52 bombers could be used to obliterate any future North Vietnamese invasion. FACT: The future use of B-52's was the promise Nixon made to the South Vietnamese government, its military and its people during those Paris Peace talks. FACT: The ONLY reason the North was able to again invade and take over the South was the FAILURE of the Democrat Congress to authorized funds for those B-52 strikes, during the North's 1975 invasion. FACT: If they HAD, there would still be a "free and independent" South Vietnam and MILLIONS of South Vietnamese would have survived the war.
The commentary inadvertently hit on the reason for many failures in Vietnam - including the failure to finish the war with decisive victory. "strategy.....is one of gradual escalation.." - that is what LBJ did throughout the war , against all military advice which implored him to go in with everything available, bomb the north into the stone age and have done with it. This he did not listen to and constantly pulled back "to give the enemy a chance to consider peace talks." Le May wanted to do in Vietnam what he succeeded in doing in Japan in 1945 - where his air force bombed every possible viable target of any strategic value, to the point that there were no more targets to attack! This would have worked in Vietnam of course but he was prohibited by LBJ from doing this. I do not know when a war has been so incompetently executed by interference and micro-management by a Commander-in-Chief. LBJ should have been impeached for the scores of thousands of American lives he caused to be lost!
There never could have been a " decisive win". The north Vietnamese waged asymmetrical warfare and battles would have gone on forever. Even if US forces reached Hanoi. That whole conventional outlook was the problem from the beginning.
I agree. The whole bridges crap. Insane. Looks good on paper so you keep doing what's not working. I don't think anyone not there and hands on should have shut up and the military do what you sent them there to do. Absolutely insane. So much respect for you guys that were there. Thank You and I'm sorry for what you went through. God Bless all of you.
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I respect the Vietnam veterans more then any other conflict. My first year in the Army was in 1993. I served under the last of the 20-25 year men and women Vietnam vets. I got to hear some really good stories that never made it to any book or videos. The Vietnam war was the reason why I joined the Army. I used to idolize it as a child. All of the Rambo movies I watched. It was not till years later did I realized what a waste the war was on both sides. I hate the climate of the later 60s and the protestors. The Vietnam veterans for the most part joined to serve their country. The WW2 and Vietnam vets were the last to join for these reasons till 9/11.
You need help!
US never won that war... They pulled out... They tested whether they were going to test and.. by!!!... I was never up to the ground forces 😂.. It was to get USAF better!!!
The 60s is the begging of the downfall of USA
@@hydrotech1460 The military WON the War in 1973. The Communists in the US Congress LOST the War in 1975
We were the opposite. Every neighborhood had some Vietnam veteran messed up, Unshaven, Disheveled and living in their parents basement. The parents saw this and pushed us all to attend college rather than the military. I wish I would have now, but back then it was too soon after Vietnam to be gung ho about the military.
Vietnam Army Huey pilot 11-67 to 1-70. Never had a Huey let me down and was fortunate to pick up 54 people who had been shot down. Most dangerous missions were over North Vietnam and Laos with MACV-SOG. Most rewarding was flying troops in from the field who were going home at the end of their tour. 19 when I got there and just turned 22 when I came home and got out. Most rewarding flight as a civilian was my first flight in the B-777. Flew to Frankfurt, Germany and the Check Airman was also an Army Warrant Officer helicopter pilot in Vietnam. We did have a Cold Beer.
V olunteered to be a chopper pilot, 101st Airborne.
3k30 and 😅12d4😅
Well said
Anybody wanting to read a truly excellent authentic book about Huey pilots and missions in Vietnam should read 'Chickenhawk' by Robert Mason ! You definitely will not regret it.
What a book!! Totally amazes me everytime I read it
Great book Before The Dawn was a great book about the riverine forces
One of the best books on Vietnam I read. The book NAM was one of the best.
I will try it. Dispatches by Michael Herr is interesting.
Awesome book read before the dawn it's about the river rats on the Mekong
Johnson and Macnamara should have been indicted for war crimes against their own forces.
A special salute to the Thunderchief pilots and bears who incurred so many needless casualties.
@The Richest Man In Babylon Nah.. Now you have the Military Industrial Complex in your ear...
Kennedy was gonna stop the war.. That's one reason why he was ASSASSINATED.
Plus.. Communist, Marxism, Facism Cannot be allowed.. Cause they don't work. Born to fail ideologies..
Johnson’s was a evil man
I'm 54, born Oct 65, youngest of 5 children. I have 2 older brothers, the oldest, and 2 sisters. They are right much older than me. The oldest had a low draft Lotto # 36. He Enlisted before being drafted. He was told he would be going to Germany to hold the line against the Soviet Union! Well he got an all expense paid free trip to the South East Asian Paradise called Vietnam! U.S.Army Infantry! Changed him forever! Dr Jekyll & Mr.Hyde, Bipolar and won't take Med's for it. Self medicate's with alcohol, few month's on, then a few month's off! I love him to death and alway's will! He will give a stranger the shirt off his back, or his last peace of bread, even if he was starving! He's really a SUPER guy at heart, but that switch can go off in a second! Temper from Hell! My oldest sister's husband, was Class of 68! He enlisted also, U.S.Army! His dad was drafted early and spent all of WWII in the Pacific, Island hopping till after the end.His dad told him if he enlisted ,he may not have to go.Well he went there also. My Dad's sister got these copper P.O.W. M.I.A. bracelets for most of my extended family. My other older brother and sister's got one. It had the name and rank and some number's of one of our P.O.W.'s or M.I.A's on them. You were supposed to wear them until there name was on list's of them coming home. Some guy's made it back. My brother and sister still have their's and they were M.I.A.'s. May they forever R.I.P! I begged for one also,but was told I was too young to have one! I lived near, and road the School Bus with a girl who was few years older than me, and our family's knew each other. She had an older sister also.Her Dad was an Air Force Pilot, shot down over North Vietnam, and is still M.I.A. She didn't even remember her Dad, and her older sister can a little. Their mother never remarried and has past away now. Total waste of Precious Human Life for nothing! Never start a fight unless you finish it! SEMPER FI ....................................
God bless you and your family sir.
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"Later, Agent Orange would be linked to health problems... ..."
Ahh... That seems a little understated. ...
My dad, Donald Leroy Welch RIP 12/30/2017, agent orange, service related death. 191st MI company, team 3, Airmobile detachment, 1st Calvary.
Look how many ppl are leaping at the chance to have an untested vaccine shot into their body, just because their Government tells them to. So I can see how ppl believed Agent Orange was safe in the 60s, because their Government just lied.
And No, Im not one of the weirdo conspiracy theorists, that think Covid doesnt exist.
@@tfs203 I agree! Vaccine happened too fast ! Too much panic about the virus,etc....
@@tfs203 due to my research into my dads "service related death"..agent orange..I now know about the tactics of our (many) world governments..I will NOT ever take this trial medication (jab).
@@nikiwagner6879 Sorry about your Father, thats just sad. But you are right, and 10s of millions think the same! The fastest that anyother medication/vaccine, has gotten approved for public distribution, was 7yrs! The average it takes any drug to go from discovery to public consumption, is 12yrs! They had this in 6mths? I dont think so comrade! Even my Lawyer was hospitalized for 10 days(4 in the ICU) after his first shot. He told me he will NEVER take that shit again, because it was the worst he felt in decades. My Doctor, who is also the county coroner here, said he does not recommend it, for healthy adults! Old ppl, and ppl with compromised immune systems, are a different story he said. I tested positive for Covid, and never knew I had it, never had a symptom, yet my Father got sick as a dog, and developed Pneumonia.
Jack Smith, born in Paris, was a highly decorated U.S. combat veteran of the Vietnam War. As a private in an Army rifle company, he was wounded in the battle of the Ia Drang Valley, one of the key American engagements with North Vietnamese regular forces. Smith was awarded a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart.
Years later, he returned to the Vietnam battlefield for special reports for ABC’s “Nightline” and “DAY ONE.” A number of years later now, I remember that story (DAY ONE) on TV. A friend of mine who was in the Army and dealt with combat in Vietnam, was interested to watch "DAY ONE" as he didn't see it. I recorded it, so he did get to see it later. He liked the program, but the sad thing is, later he died from a motorcycle accident in Minnesota. I was lucky enough to be on 2 aircraft carriers during Vietnam, the USS Hancock CVA-19 and the USS Bon Homme Richard CVA-31, 1965-1967 on Yankee/Dixie station during that time. I worked in the ready room where the pilots gathered before their flight. The sad thing is some pilots never returned to the ship! Lost 8 pilots on the Hancock and 16 pilots on the Bon Homme Richard. What did Vietnam get anything positive for the United States...ZERO! Now Vietnam makes junk for the U.S., just like China does! JFK planned on ending the Vietnam war when the Special Forces were only in Vietnam. He knew Vietnam wasn't worth killing 1 American for no reason, and that's what it turned out to be! A few people I know from my home town have died from Agent Orange! After JFK was assassinated, LBJ escalated the Vietnam war and that's when I was transferred from NAS Oceana, Va. to the USS Hancock in Alameda, California. Every American should be allowed to watch President Eisenhower as he warned us about the MIC, the Military Industrial Complex. On January 17, 1961, Dwight D. Eisenhower ends his presidential term by warning the nation about the increasing power of the military-industrial complex.
His remarks, issued during a televised farewell address to the American people, were particularly significant since Ike had famously served the nation as military commander of the Allied forces during WWII. Eisenhower urged his successors to strike a balance between a strong national defense and diplomacy in dealing with the Soviet Union. He did not suggest arms reduction and in fact acknowledged that the bomb was an effective deterrent to nuclear war. However, cognizant that America’s peacetime defense policy had changed drastically since his military career, Eisenhower expressed concerns about the growing influence of what he termed the military-industrial complex.
Thank you for sharing. A welcomed surprise to see my uncle Col. F. Cherry, F105 POW.
Hey Ron, God bless your brave Uncle🇺🇸
Imagine how scary that would be. You're screaming through the air in a multimillion dollar plane and all of a sudden you are getting beaten by peasants.
Ya, I was carpetbombed by B52's near firebase nine when we almost got over run by 2,000 NVA during TET. Also almost got naped at Jackson's Hole too. Thank God for flyboys. They saved my butt a coupla times.
For some reason I read naped as raped.. I was like wtf? lol 😁👍👌
I was carpetbombed by B-52's while flying a C-47. They missed!
@@jdisdetermined better raped than naped.
Would love to hear your story sir! Much respect to you and everyone who fought for our country.
THANK YOU!!!!
@@jdisdetermined u need help man
McNamara was weak out of the barrel. They should have combined "Rolling Thunder", "Linebacker I" and "Linebacker II" into the first year of the war and it would have ended before it really ever got started. Hindsight is always 20/20 though.
Politicians screwed everyone over.
Always have and they always will.
@@jenzeglis113 Nguoi lam chinh tri mom noi la nong sung AR15
Still doing it.
As quoted in an earlier episode of this story.....
"If anybody thinks it's a good idea to go to war, they're crazy!!"
"If anybody has never walked a battlefield with 2 or 3 hundred torn, bloating American and North Vietnamese bodies, then they shouldn't feel qualified to talk about the glory of war, because there is none. War sucks!!!"
that is an understatement -politicians that propagate all this need to be killed
X
Shouldve got johnson ,mcnamara,andwestmoreland and dropped them on a bridge from a B52
Thank your for your service Vietnam Veterans. Greetings from Mexico City
Project ranchhand killed and disabled babies that still suffer today. Brave men indeed. Flying over the jungle in the day, drinking beers in the evening.
Songbird McCain sang like a canary. What a joke he's in this documentary talking about being a strong POW.
It's never a good thing to speak ill of the dead, but lmaooo "sang like a Canary" LOL that's hilarious 😂😂😂😂
Really? Where is the information on him singing? I would like to see that... you got that information?
@@jacobsladder6715
ruclips.net/video/EHF0yXrwr-0/видео.html
Don’t forget Jo
@@jacobsladder6715 Yeah you can tell by his broken arms. Another worthless Trump supporter.
Rather than glorifying their soldiers, they better ask forgiveness!
Every time I see this type of video I see how incompetent our leaders are.
War is war, you declare war and hit everything and everyone. There are no restrictions is war period.
It makes me sick we lost all of our men because of freaking rules in a war?
We are reliving this with Afghanistan right now. Complete failure with our leaders.
,Our military can win if you let our Generals do what they are trained to do.
Win what? Battles? Then what? None of these wars benefited the life of the average working person in the US. The leaders aren't incompetent. Their agenda is different than yours and mine. All the presidents and politicians who brought us into these conflicts are doing just fine and so are the leaders of industry that paid for their campaigns. Ask a vet how they are. Ask a Mcdonalds employee if Vietnam made the burgers better. The soldiers were the best among us and we sent them on a fools errand...time and time again. Sad that we can't separate the amazing stories of soldiers in battle from the terrible and illegitimate agendas of the politicians that sent them there in the first place. We relived it with Afghanistan 20 years ago when we decided to go in there with no clear objective and no plan to leave. If you think the mistake is happening now, you're 20 years and a lot of wasted death and destruction, aka what they're trained to do, too late.
They where never trying to win, it was just a big money game that lined people’s pockets $
secondary the primary reason the vatican wanted to set up a roman catholic base in S Vietnam. the monks totching themselves in the streets of saigon? yeah, the catholic controlled south were persecuting and torturing them. the genocidal inquesitions never ceased after the dark age.
Funky you Jane
Never heard said , those brave young soldiers , dedicated soldiers , proud of my soldiers , country who dont love their soldier or defend them deserve very little in life in other words deserve nothing .
Those "brave young soldiers" should NOT have been involved in a war against the Vietnamese people who were fighting for their right to determine their own future! No...I was not proud of friends, relatives, and other people of color who were fighting to prevent the Vietnamese people from determining their OWN destiny!
@@robertroselle3341 no answer for you
@@robertroselle3341 you do realize not all Vietnamese people wanted to live under ho chi minhs communism, thats why the arvn existed, to fight the pavn. Vietnam was much more complex than a simple American anti communist crusade.
With all do respect to the service of all those who fought survived died in battle or came home or never came back at all, I thank you.
This war was about munitions and armaments too the benefit of senators Congress men and women on both party members heavily invested in stocks in the INDUSTRIAL MILITARY INDUSTRIAL FACTORIES.
No big deal you think? Your GREAT GREAT GRANDCHILDREN WILL STILL BE STUFFIING THE POCKETS OF THOSE INVESTORS and their heirs for many more decades too come in the form of employment taxes. For that war and the ones since, or too come.
Put an end to any Gov leadership position profiting from anything crossing their desk for signature.
These men were some of the best fighting men since world war 2. These men fought just as hard and well as there fathers did. It's absolutely a shame that they were treated so poorly when they came home from fighting a war their country called upon them to do. God bless these men, and welcome home. Thank you for your service.
Why were they invading a country that had done NOTHING to the U.S.????
@@robertroselle3341 the government sent them. That is not the veterans fault!! If anyone should have been disrespected would have been the government leaders not the soldiers!! And were there to help. Why does the us have to get into most war/ conflicts they do
Big difference! Us A was attacked in ww2, but chose Vietnam nam, making the war machine industry big profits, using the boys for canon fodder
@flyinryan1986 I've heard alot of people say they could've ran to Canada & hid out..... I think maybe they didn't think that through thoroughly before they spoke 🤔 now I know a few people did just that but I can't imagine.....& ALOT COULDNT do that they were KIDS & POOR NO$!!!!!!
Yeah great message here and recounts are tremendous and support from the people who have rescued soldiers from captivity and assault... my father is a Vietnam War veteran but I’m sorry for the truth about the people who have lost their lives for nothing
Some give some and some give All.💪☝️☝️💪🐕🦺🐕🦺💯🎸🦵👍👍
As a father that served in Vietnam I would not wish the same on any son of mine; I have three. However I don't regret 1 minute of my time served . I volunteered when you did not have to. I had wanted to be a soldier since I could remember. My friends wanted to be Firemen or Law Enforcement, I wanted to be a soldier.
In 1967 at 17 yr. after talking my mom into signing permission ; I ENLISTED.
At 17 yrs old I was too young to go to Vietnam but after 4 yrs in Europe MY MOS became a shortage in Vietnam.
I volunteered again and after 30 days at home I
Finally got to Vietnam 1971 Army Engineers. Hwy 1
building Bridges and Roads. Loved my service there.
@@BBsr007 2:19
I was in Vietnam as a USMC door gunner. We were there to assure democracy for the South Vietnamese. We weren't playing games for no reason. It was more than two years after we left that the South Vietnamese Army was defeated.
It has been 54 yrs since my Vietnam war begun. I remember all to well the cost of war. God help us to stay free.
I sure am glad you made it home, Mr. Cale. If I were American myself, I'd say "welcome home". You guys deserved a warm welcome back home, not the kind you got back then.
Thanks for your service. I joined the Marines in 1969 and was in Vietnam in 1972. Welcome home.
Robert McNamara, best Secretary of Defense Hanoi ever had.
I respect a soldier who has came to respect their enemy
So Christmas bombing kill civilians ! What a glory!
The unrestricted bombing would not only would have SAVED more American soldiers' lives, but significantly affected the outcome of the war. An Army Vietnam vet once told me "you can't be in a war with one hand "tied behind your back, while the enemy is fighting "all-out."
Good video. Thanks.
The war has been over for over 40 years...and the NLF won! What have they done since their victory that would have justified the racist war against them??
There is NOTHING that the U.S. military could have done to defeat the NLF! Even "bombing them back to the stone age" would not have helped! The Vietnamese people were determined to be FREE...to govern as THEY saw fit!!!
@@robertroselle3341 You have a mighty perverted sense of "freedom". Seek help immediately. Communism is a terminal cancer that can only be eradicated to cure.
@@robertroselle3341 free to overthrow the duly elected government of the Republic of South Vietnam, huh? All South Vietnam wanted was to be left alone by the North. What about their freedom, or the Hmong people in the hills that were slaughtered by the North?
@@robertroselle3341 free to overthrow the duly elected government of the Republic of South Vietnam, huh? All South Vietnam wanted was to be left alone by the North. What about their freedom, or the Hmong people in the hills that were slaughtered by the North?
Starts with a lie.....
The WHOLE thing was a racist LIE!!!
Thank you LBJ and McNamera for getting some many airman killed
Not just the airmen, which I was, but all 58,000+ of our soldiers from all branches and jobs that lost their lives when we could have done such a better job if we would have had leaders like we have now. I thank all current servicemen and veterans for their service to our country.
55,000 plus
well that was stupid. Let's not do that again.
woops, too late.
The slick,was always a reliable transport for the grunt in Vietnam taking you to a mission.
and most importantly taking you out when things were to hot
McCain talking about dignity?
best comment I have ever read in last 8 years.
We were manipulated and forgotten
W by ?
All I would say that Uncle Sam did not want to win the Viet Nam War... How ever I feel bad for The VETS coming back Home.. The Damn Idiot civilians Treated them so badly...I respect all the VN Vets.
More should have refused to participate in the unjust...unnecessary...RACIST war against the Vietnamese people!!!
Baby killer = Criminal
The key to winning wars is "overwhelming force". If you're not willing to use that, then you're better served to stay out of the conflict - if you can.
Much respect to pilot Fred cherry.
to all.
We could probably have bombed blah blah .....we could probably blah blah ....ultimately it boiled down to negotiations. Watch Ken Burns' The Vietnam War on Netflix . More balanced and objective
The Ken Burns series was just another left wing, anti-American, diatribe. Meaningless when it comes to the truth.
I can't imagine being an airman during this war, and basically being forced to play by the Moneyball rulebook.
The chopper pilots and crew along with our medic,s were the bravest of all in nam.I salute you all.semper fi.
Those few minutes waiting in the LZ for casualties or troops to be loaded .......literally a sitting duck waiting for the bullet or RPG to arrive and ruin your day .....balls of steel !!!!!! 😬😬😬
the golf of Tonkin lies lies lies and nothing has changed
Love the series hate the adds
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How people is changing and are with are solders now. My dad would have hung me if l ever cut down a man fighting for us. Thank you dad. Miss you
Because being emotionally fragile, and a weak victim, is the "In Thing" with alot of todays Society. Thats why we have so many unemployed, 30yr old virgins, living at home still, playing video games all night.
My Grandfather wouldve disowned me on the spot! So I joined in 1997. But thankfully, I dont live in an area full of self loathing liberals, and delusional progressive cowards.
@@tfs203 Spot on.
@@tfs203 You need to stay away from alcohol and drugs! They are affecting your judgement!
@@robertroselle3341 Awwww! Adorable! Another basement dweller, trying to start a useless argument while remaining anonymous! I guess not having a job, remaining celibate, as Mommy continues to tell your still her big man, builds some sense of false self confidence? RUclips is a great place for ppl like yourself!
We both know you have never seen any conflict, besides yelling at your Parents!🤣
I don't get it, the announcement prior to the mission ! Why would the politician announce it prior to the mission ? !
Obama constantly did the same thing 🤮
God bless all our Viet Nam vets. You are all heroes to me. Thank you for your service and sacrifice.
I feel exactly the same, these guys went through Hell on Earth.
Amen.
Let’s remember that women were in uniform and in country too.
Heroes or arrogant and clueless?
@@patrickhausding7540 you might be right. F... all wars
The valuable half-sister byerly bang because peer-to-peer inevitably overflow apropos a eight handball. dependent, agreeable potato
God bless all VIETNAM VETERANS !!!!!!!!!!!
Englishman here. Just goes to show if you haven't got competent politicians and senior military leaders then more people will die. The amount of time armies are hamstrung by politics and budgetary cuts is astounding.
Having spent a few weeks in Vietnam in the early 2000 I was amazed how peaceful the towns and country folk were . The civilians showed me some of the raw damage the bombing caused , they had local memorials , shrines and photos , amazing. The country has recovered and evolved into a beautiful land . As usual $$$$ makes the difference between the have and have nots the same as the western world. RIP all civilians and soldiers of this terrible conflict.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE,,,,,GOD BLESS YOU ALL ,,
Soon as I saw McCain's face, that was it, couldn't watch....
We hy because he called out Trump for what he is. ?
You try to disgrace a Veteran who served his country and worship a man who had a doctor make up a reason why he couldn't serve. Amazing.
You combat vets are the real STAR'S and should be treated the way NFL and those Hollywood SCUM bags take for granted???? ( HERO'S!!! )
American and there aliase done everything in there power and lost the war well done to Vietnam
Men with pride, making the ultimate sacrifice...i have so much respect for the Veterans🙏🏻
Patriotism at it's finest when they don't agree with the war.
@@ninaappelt9001 aaaaat
you must respect politicians then too- they are responsible for sending them over to die
Wow
I feel bad for the troops and disgust for lbj and rbrt mc Namara
how did they expect to win a war without allowing their pilots to bomb the ports where supplies were being stockpiled
Massive China border and bypassing through Cambodia and laos
So you think that going to war with China and the Soviet Union would have been a good idea! It is readily apparent that many...if not most of the people making comments on this page were not round at the time ... and have not a clue of what they are talking about!! Man is this country in BIG trouble!!!
@@robertroselle3341 China was already risking a war with China and btw Linebacker II proves that china doesn't care if Hanoi gets fucked. So, I think a US invasion up north Vietnam can happen with no issue.
Trick question….they didn’t want to win. How much money can be made from a 6 month war? Answer…a lot less than an 8 year protracted war that molds US resources into the population of the country. “War is a racket” -Audie Murphy(the United States’ most decorated soldier in all of it’s history)
@@robertroselle3341 My friend, no one commenting here has ANY say or influence on those choices. As always, people like you turn to blame your fellow countryman, while you continue to vote in the same politicians that keep wasting our money on war, foreign aid, ridiculous fascist support/control over private industry, etc. I do not want war with ANY country. However, if the USA is going to be involved in a military struggle, let it be legal(declared by CONGRESS), unlimited(no restricted targets and not slowly escalated), and, finally, anyone in Congress that votes to declare war needs to be required to have first of kin(son or daughter) involved on the FRONT lines. Otherwise, the only skin they have in the game is OUR children, and the money they stand to make from the lobbyists that are constantly in their ear selling them on the virtues of war and selling its trappings to other countries.
And what they do to the prisoners isn't worse than the U.S. do to their civil people!
Have you seen a Vietnamese bomb in L.A.??
Shoulda turned the north into a parking lot.
How dare the Vietnamese want to run their own country.
South Vietnam was its own independent country. The war between North and South was not a civil war, it was one country invading another.
@@spectre06x that's country you mentioned was the son of CIA, even Nixon said so. Independent my arse
@@Ngườizôtri This shows how idiotic you are. If not knowing much, do like Vietnamese saying "Not knowing much, better sit at the corner and listen". Be civilized, wash your mouth before talking.
@@kiutong7311 lol you said with the tongue of descendant of VNCH(RVN), that makes sense now. Sell that history somewhere else. Only morons believe in that shit. So long, failure of creation.
@@kiutong7311 btw, "lean the pillar", not "stay in the corner", you fool.
Nothing to celebrate here! Disgusting
If you come to Hanoi today, there are still some B52 body everywhere...:)
Các bạn nên nhớ rằng không bao giờ khuất phục một dân tộc khi dân tộc đó thà chết chứ không chịu làm nô lệ... vì vậy hòa bình cho thế giới..
Imagine murica was invaded in the same way....
This kind or war should avoided and negotiation for peace be enforceo byp the un
As a pilot who served in the 345 Tactical Airlift Squadron, I truly believe that Robert Strange McNamara is an amoral son of a bitch.
No, Saddam of Iraq in 1991 did not threaten Saudi Arabia. See dissenting view by journalist Jean Heller. You sully yourself repeating those lies.
It is now the accepted truth that the Gulf of Tompkin incident was a FF and did not occur. This should not have been misstated at the beginning of the video.
It was only recently that enough information was available to say that with any confidence. There were questions from the beginning but the irregularities took decades to filter out.
Read a door gunner's memoir of those days. "One February Morning". February. '68 to May '69.
What was the point of the war to start with certainly not worth so many great men dying in another country it doesn't make sense....
_Really_ wouldn't fancy stooging about over a bunch of DShK and PKMs in a bloody Cessna. Balls of tungsten doing that.
all that bomb dropping from the sky and still got ran out!!!!
When the B-52's dropped the bombs...the North Vietnamese "got run out"! lol!
@@badguy1481 north vietnamese got run out??? if my history serves me correct, USA were the one that packed that bag and got the fuck outta there! lmao! truth hurts.
@@tyronejennings7703 it wasn't the military that lost the war , it was the politicians .
@@Paulywauly1969 bro... think about it!!! all that bomb dropping. air plane strikes, tanks, etc. USA had all the advantage! they were fighting against the vietnamese who only had rusty ass ak-47s! lol. they lost the war. it shouldnt have drag on for that long considering all the advantages they have. the politicians stepped in because this was going on longer than expected.
@@tyronejennings7703 have you ever been to war? ... there is no advantage when you are fighting a war 8000 miles away when the enemy are in their own back yard. General Giap famously said if the US had invaded the north the outcome would've been a different story. The fact is there were many restraints put on the military despite all the bombing etc by politicians that were dictating military strategy as a opposed to the top brass. The allies won every major battle but were let down by the policies.
I'm a Vietnam Vet and undoubtedly our hands-off policy and treating them with kids' gloves had no effect or impact on prolonging the war. They could do whatever they had to and we couldn't...
isn't that how every military engages the enimy?
was at pleiku when VC /NVA breached the premiature , one sunday morning ARVN ( friendly troops) were said to be ON guard. 14 aircraft lost 12 americans. were drove out with apc and armor. 4th inf div. 10th armored B co.
CHERRY! IF YOU STILL LIVING, PEACE N BLESSINGS TO ALL....PILOTS!!!
And my dad was in that shitty war so can talk about how stupid waste of life and time it was. Unless your a psychopath.
20:07 does anyone have or know a video with audio of a fax communicating with ground troops?
...CHILDREN DIRECTING A WAR ..AND FOR WHAT? ....STUPID POLITICS.. ... DISGUSTING.
Comments are interesting....but if you were never there, you will never really understand. We learned nothing. Think... Afghanistan.
If one was in the military one can understand
As quoted by an army member in one of the earlier videos.....
"If anybody thinks it's a good idea to go to war, they're crazy!!"
"If anybody has never walked a battlefield with 2 or 3 hundred torn, bloating American and North Vietnamese bodies, then they shouldn't feel qualified to talk about the glory of war, because there is none. War sucks!!!"
I wonder how many actually knows the official name of the UH-1
Iriquois. But Huey sounds better
Iroquois,
And do you. Nowthe real name of the oh58 and oh6
Oh 6 Cayuse oh58 Kiowa
The F-105, AKA " The lead sled"!!
MacNamara....... Should have stuck to the Edsel!
John McCaine? Isn't he a traitor?
I hear a lot how loyal and tenacious the Vietnamese were, if another country attacked the U.S., I am sure we would be just as tenacious. Maybe it's American ego that we thought they would just give up and surrender to us.
In theory, we were only acting in support of South Vietnam. If that government had not been so incredibly corrupt, and Ho Chi Minh had not been so much better, it might have worked.
Bạn phải tìm hiểu nhiều về lịch sử.. Hồ Chí Minh đã viết 12 lá thư nhờ sự giúp đỡ của tổng thống Mỹ.. nhưng tổng thống Mỹ bỏ ngoài tai và vài tháng sau còn đem quân xâm lược VN ...
Gave up watching the video, way too many commercials.
Nixon seemed help you do more what you needed to do
Will they EVER learn that politicians should stick to politics and LET the military run the war...and every politician should’ve experienced military duty if not combat!
shoulda dropped the big one (Nixon)
F-105 was made to carry nukes to the Warsaw Pact.
Haunting yes.You had the ability to deal and your hands were tied
I would spend the rest of my life hunting down the guards. One by one.
You didn t belong there.So what stops you now RAMBO? Go get em.
Everybody is Rambo till the trees start talking
" It was a limited war". We were limited and they were unlimited. Enough said.
@Colin Cleveland What is meant by that?
@Colin Cleveland We should have kept Linebacker 2 going for about 1 more week. Maybe not. Nixon didn't want to fight the Russians and the Chinese. Cold war turns into hot war. Both sides lost.
All of our technology and still couldn’t win because our soldiers were not allowed to really fight because our leaders held them back. If your going to war, go full force. Lives were destroyed and lost due to this war, and all wars.
Does the guy at 19:07 look a little bit like Brett Hart?
Why does we need gulf of tonkin incident to justify a war? Why not the bombers strike Haifeng harbour and Honoi before they were armed with SAM? Was the great nation lose the war for being too humane?
"The air-war had no effect on the outcome of the war", huh, wtf do you think the results would have been without our airpower?
The B-52...ALONE...won the Vietnam War for the Americans in 1972.. Their leftist politicians in Washington LOST South Vietnam in 1975.
Dù rằng đời ta thích hoa hồng..kẻ thù buộc ta ôm cây súng.. sự thật là người Việt nam không bao giờ muốn chiến tranh.. có thể quân đội Việt nam chưa bao giờ được xem là hùng mạnh.. nhưng chưa có quân đội hùng mạnh nào.. đánh bại được quân đội Việt nam..
Chuẩn
Althought we love roses... the enemy made us holding guns.. The reality, Vietnamese people never want war. May be Vietnamese army never been considered as powerful but there is never powerful army can defeat us - our Vietnamese people.
Johnny Wet Start aka the beast
1st , get rid of the lying politicians .
NO WONDER AMERICA LOST THE WAR IN VIETNAM
Yep. The unfocused and inept approach of the Johnson administration virtually guaranteed we would have no chance. Add that to the lack of major infrastructure to target and it all starts to look like a really bad movie. As bad as Nixon was, he actually handled it much better than Johnson did.
The TRUTH: The American military WON the Vietnam War. FACT: It DESTROYED the Vietcong in 1968 and the North Vietnamese Army in 1972. FACT: Its so frightened the North Vietnamese government during the December 1972 bombing of Hanoi, they agreed to return to the Paris Peace table and sign a treaty in early 1973. FACT: Following that treaty, South Vietnam was a free and independent country. FACT: It was MORE of a "free and independent" country than even South Korea is TODAY, because a peace treaty between North and South Korea has NEVER BEEN SIGNED! FACT: Nixon LEARNED, in 1972, that the North Vietnamese mililtary was impotent to take over the South as long as B-52 bombers could be used to obliterate any future North Vietnamese invasion. FACT: The future use of B-52's was the promise Nixon made to the South Vietnamese government, its military and its people during those Paris Peace talks. FACT: The ONLY reason the North was able to again invade and take over the South was the FAILURE of the Democrat Congress to authorized funds for those B-52 strikes, during the North's 1975 invasion. FACT: If they HAD, there would still be a "free and independent" South Vietnam and MILLIONS of South Vietnamese would have survived the war.
Yeah we remember.... never forget
The commentary inadvertently hit on the reason for many failures in Vietnam - including the failure to finish the war with decisive victory. "strategy.....is one of gradual escalation.." - that is what LBJ did throughout the war , against all military advice which implored him to go in with everything available, bomb the north into the stone age and have done with it.
This he did not listen to and constantly pulled back "to give the enemy a chance to consider peace talks."
Le May wanted to do in Vietnam what he succeeded in doing in Japan in 1945 - where his air force bombed every possible viable target of any strategic value, to the point that there were no more targets to attack! This would have worked in Vietnam of course but he was prohibited by LBJ from doing this.
I do not know when a war has been so incompetently executed by interference and micro-management by a Commander-in-Chief.
LBJ should have been impeached for the scores of thousands of American lives he caused to be lost!
There never could have been a " decisive win". The north Vietnamese waged asymmetrical warfare and battles would have gone on forever. Even if US forces reached Hanoi. That whole conventional outlook was the problem from the beginning.
I agree. The whole bridges crap. Insane. Looks good on paper so you keep doing what's not working. I don't think anyone not there and hands on should have shut up and the military do what you sent them there to do. Absolutely insane.
So much respect for you guys that were there. Thank You and I'm sorry for what you went through.
God Bless all of you.
Your response shows that you do not understand the Vietnamese people! There is NOTHING that the U.S. could have done to win the war! PERIOD!!!