A criticism many of you have raised is that sauropod's skin would be too thick to penetrate. So here is why I don't think this would be a factor: *1.* Vampire bats have the sharpest teeth of any living mammal- on par with that of a barber's razor- due to their lack of enamel their teeth are constantly sharpening themselves. They have been observed feeding on animals like Tapir and Caiman more rarely, both of which have pretty thick skin. *2.* You do not have to cut *_all the way_* through the epidermis to induce bleeding. For us, it only requires 1-2mm of depth for a cut to make us bleed. For animals like Rhinos, or Hippos- who have some of the thickest hides of any land animal at 2.4 inches/6cm - it only takes at most 2cm or 0.8 inches to induce bleeding at the thickest parts of their skin. The *maximum* estimates for an average thickness of sauropod hides are about 7cm or 2.75 inches. Although there is a more recent study of _Haestasaurus_ that estimated that species's skin to be no more than 1mm thick with non-overlapping scales. *3.* Even if we assume this maximum thickness estimate was true for sauropods in the Jehol Biota, it definitely wasn't consistent throughout the whole body and there would have been several weak spots such as the neck, between scales, the underbelly, face, behind joints, etc. But even then, this thickness wouldn't be a factor because of my previous points. However- some of you did point out that Microraptor is now now believed to have been more capable of powered flight- and that is in an error on my part as I was going off of outdated information that I didn't know had changed.
I see your point here and I agree. However, because of media and movies a lot of people see dinosaurs as movie monsters, not animals. So their assumptions of how tough or strong dinosaurs are can often be inaccurate.
Some people can be so silly it’s just a fun thought experiment about one of the coolest animals in the world, let’s all be chill and love the great video!
I see your points, but you could have mentioned that the bats would likely only feed on the thinner skin around the eyes, nose and ears. Even if the bats have very sharp teeth, it would be impractical for a 1-2 inch long animal to create a 0.8 inch deep incision. Also, sauropods would likely have thickened skin on their necks, as that is the location many predators would attack. This seems like information that would be necessary (or at least, very welcome) in a video like this.
@@MadlyMesozoic Sometimes you wanna speculate what would happen if Raptors survive the ice age and became human pets, Other times you want to say fuck that because prehistoric vampires are awesome! Also, holy hell that was a really fast response, thank you so much!
Beavers could be interesting, for example: A beaver that had more behavioural evolution where they build massive fortress dams called "Holds." And they live in larger groups.
@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 sorta, I was more interested in how beavers would affect the rivers' systems and the surrounding area. Because I think beavers are one of a kind and they're cool.
the intense eye contact after the "hang out" joke had chuckling love the content found you with samson watched a lot of your stuff keep up the great work
Considering how this niche would be EXTREMELY rewarding when everything was absolutely massive, I really think that there should have been a vertebrate that specialized in this way back then, and by chance we just haven't found evidence of one.
really went all in on making the Yemanstrigoi into a horror movie monster, huh? also, just wanna say that its design overall reminded me of the Vargheist and Varghulf units from Warhammer Fantasy's Vampire Counts
24:13 Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised strigoi boy here goes extinct very soon after they evolved into what they are. Animals with such aggression ingrained into them even towards their own kind, especially their mates, and their own kin, is an extinction waiting to happen.
@ that’s different Tasmanian Devil’s aren’t as aggressive as media had made them out to be they’re actually quite adorable and docile creatures so long as there’s enough food to go around. They just act aggressive to intimidating others.
Yeah, especially since the females only give birth 1-2 times in their *entire* lives and only to litters of at most 5. In practice, even lower since they apparently kill their less developed siblings. I don't think they could meet replacement rates unless the adults are somehow unbelievably good at escaping predation.
The book frames, the animations, the speculative evolutions... it's insane. I was seriously wondering how you were going to bullshit a clearly parasitic relationship into becoming symbiotic, but damn it you did it. And it's actually plausible, too. Making it easy for females to pick out the most "nutritious" partner is convincing. All 3 were great. Basing them off of (criminally underrepresented) Chinese mythology was also a really cool choice.
Hi Madly Mesozoic, Thank you for your vampire bat video. The editing, the art, and the quality are just phenomenal as much as ratatouille. I can tell why it took so long. This is why I respect you. You deliver entertaining bits of biology and speculative evolution. Thank you for your gift of a video.
Bats are my favourite animal, so I was stoked to see this. As someone of Chinese ancestry myself I’m also impressed you recognised the good fortune connotations of bats in Chinese culture. I was particularly intrigued by the coevolution prospects of a bat with a sauropod and I’d be honestly very interested in seeing something similar in the future
6) a real could humans survive the Mesozoic video 7) something with the aliens from project hail marry either the Eridians or the Astrophage on earth of some other fictional planet
8)Did hippos survive in Pleistocene Australia? 9)Would a terror bird survive in the Mesozoic? 10)Would skullcrawler survive in Middle Earth? 11)Would an eagle survive in the Mesozoic? 12)Would Pygmy Mammoth Survive in Cenozoic Australia? 13)Would sauropods survive in Eurasia during the Ice Age? 14)Would hippopotamus survive in South America in the Paleocene?
Weridly enough I do want to see how the fifth one goes because as well all known by now Australia had no humans back then nor have something equivalent to that so what if they literally did the main example being same thing or situations happening in Australia like in the mainland but not to extreme like it’s descentants in our timeline because of this Australia doesn’t get hit hard when (maybe) dingoes show up and mainly humans later.
Loving it! I hope we can see a part 2 and watch them evolve further, if they survive the asteroid and beyond. Here's a few ideas I had: 1. Could Terror Birds survive the Mesozoic? 2. Could Dunkleosteus survive the Cenozoic? 3. Could Deviljho survive in the Star Wars universe? (Not sure which planet would fit the best, but I'm thinking Kashyyyk or Felucia could work well) 4. Could Eurypterids (specifically Jeakelopterus) survive the Mesozoic? 5. Could Megalodon survive the Cretaceous?
as a Star Wars fan, I would say that Kashyyyk would be the most fun planet to put Deviljoh in, the Shadowlands would be one HELL of a test for the Deviljho
Absolutely great suggestions you made! I hope some of these scenarios you proposed can be made into videos I'm moreso talking about the real prehistoric animal ones as I find that more interesting myself Hadn't considered Dunkleosteous in the Cenozoic before that'd be something although I feel like they might struggle with competition potentially
Bats in Mesozoic intriguing. I look forward to see where evolution goes with these species. If you are open to ideal of episode, I would love to see Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, 4 to 2 million years ago in Africa through ancient Egypt to present day, that would a good speculative evolution/history. That would be a pretty good episode of Assessing survival.
I think this might be my favorite episode yet!! I love the idea of huge swarms of bats flying through the Cretaceous to feed on titans, so cool! I also really like the speculation, especially the symbiotic relationship in the first one
I think a cool idea for a video would be about how well the Roman Empire would have fared if Dinosaurs had still existed. Honestly, just imagine how cool the gladiator fights would have been.
@sebastianhanna8161 this would be pretty cool. Dinosaurs in the classical era. maybe gigachad Alexander and his generals passed on Dinosaur eggs from outside of Europe and brought them into the Mediterranean areas domesticated.
Perhaps you could work on a speculative world where some modern scientists were messing around with experimental time travel technology, and accidentally sent a whole host of random plants and animals from our time to a parallel world set millions of years ago. Now they have reconnected to this world and are studying how the animals of our time have adapted to a world dominated by dinosaurs and likewise how the dinosaurs and other creatures of this period have adapted in turn.
Here is a list of future video ideas: Real Life/Extinct Creatures: Could Purlovias survive in the Cenozoic? Could Dingos survive in the Cenozoic? Could Lemurs survive in the Cenozoic? Could Komodo Dragons survive in the Mesozoic? Could Rhinos survive in the Mesozoic? Could Real Life Dinosaurs survive on Skull Island? (2005 King Kong) Could Cenozoic Mammals survive on Skull Island? (2005 King Kong) Could Terror Birds survive in the Mesozoic? Fantasy/Non-Fictional Creatures: Could the Tarrasque survive on Tatooine? (Dungeons & Dragons) (Star Wars) Could Therocephalia survive Fae’run? (Dungeons & Dragons) Could Velonasaur survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved) Could Morellatops survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved) Could Oasisaur survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Ascended) Could Megachelon survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved) Could the Megapithecus survive in the Cenozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved) Could the Broodmother Lysrix survive in the Carboniferous Period during the Paleozoic Era? (Ark Survival Evolved) Could The Night Feeder survive in the Mesozoic? (Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal) Could Fasolasuchus survive in the Cenozoic? (65 Movie) Could Indoraptor survive in the Mesozoic? (Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom) Could Indominus Rex survive in the Mesozoic? (Jurassic World) Could Scorpios Rex survive in the Mesozoic? (Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous) Could Skull Island Dinosaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (2005 King Kong) Could Skull Island Mammals survive in the Cenozoic? (2005 King Kong) Could Indoraptor survive on the 2005 Skull Island? (Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom) Could Indominus Rex survive on the 2005 Skull Island? (Jurassic World) Could Scorpios Rex survive on the 2005 Skull Island? (Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous) Could Arkosaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs) Could Naxocertops survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs) Could Hilierosaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs) Could Cassosaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs) Could Gorgoraptor survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs) Could Godzillasaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Godzilla Minus One) Could Abolethus survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons) Could the Tarrasque survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons) Could Regisaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons) Could Altisaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons) Could Ceratops survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons) Could Aerosaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
This video is awesome!! I always love the speculative evolution stuff, i grew up with the future is wild series, so this is one of my favorite topics, i love how bats instantly feed on sauropods, free food source, at the point of being actually symbiotic relation with them, and the last ones, absolute madness of a monster maded creature, awesome!!!
Damn this was such a great video. The larger 2 spec evo bats give me some type of El Cupacabra vibe with their blood sucking predatory nature. Also the symbiotic relationship between the Pendhaemmys and Haemmysotitan is really cool and creative (the pattern on the sauropod also looks gorgeous). Another 10/10 worth the wait
I learned so much from this vid, and I love the ideas and names you had for them! (Honestly when hearing about how so many bats could feed off of a single sauropod, it made me picture some of them evolving a parasitic lifestyle, no longer needing to travel in search of food but instead spending most or all of their life clinging to and feeding on a single individual, perhaps only leaving to search for mates from other colonies, and with even a single sauropod being capable of supporting a relatively large number of these parasites without any real ill effects)
In theory Yemanstrigoi would be the bat to survive the KT extinction. Its ability to enter Torpor for decades means they can potentially sleep their way through the initial devastation. Provided they arent discovered and devoured while in torpor. With some potential downsizing, they could wake up, gorge themselves for a few weeks to put on fat reserves then go back to sleep for another few decades then reawaken to repeat the process.
I love the spec evo for this episode with the extremely innovative concepts, bonus dinosaur and slightly flawed but earnest and interesting attempts at using Chinese names/words/concepts. Keep it up!
This is by far one of the best episodes so far! I loved the mix of speculative zoology and Chinese culture! You are great! It was totally worth the wait!
God I loved the spec evo Vampire Bats are one of if not my favorite animals of all time and the different spec evos are just fantastic. I could definitely see both Wufubian ling and potentially Yemanstrigoi jeholi surviving the Cretaceous Mass Extinction, and would love a follow-up episode where they and some other of your spec evos are shown adapting to the world post-meteorite; Which ones would falter, which would take on the role of Apex Predator, and which would simply dive even greater into their niches?
Here we go with a analysis: 1. The whole idea of parasite to symbiote remind me of All Tomorrows and we got a bonus dino with it. 2. Bats have social bonds is not like other mammals that have hierachy but this a good idea of how it could look like. 3. You did you crazy S of B you make the most unique spin of the "land bat trope" they still have eyes as their vision is already decent and they are gliders, good job man.
wow, what ideas between the "ying bat" as a concept reminds me of the movie "Arthur and the Minimoys" is a 2006 English-language French live-action/animated fantasy film, then with their "perfume-curing" pee for their titanic companions, then with the idea of the "living-condominium" and really interesting! your terrible "Strigoi" reminds me a lot of a 'possible' ancestor of the future predator from the Primeval series (I hope this "jura-vampire" is well fed!) or a "were-bat"
I think it is obligatory that whenever anyone does bat speculative evolution, at least one option needs to be absolutely terrifying; the yemanstrigoi definitely qualifies. The vampire bat did even better than I was expecting. It’s much easier for things that are low in the food chain to survive in other environments and time periods, but I was really happy to see how well the specialist did. You don’t have to make such cohesive themes throughout your videos, but you do so anyway. Thank you once again for always going that extra mile.
Dude! More of these of episodes! Although, would love to see you use the Deviljho for an episode, like what happens if those species end up in the Mesozoic? Or the creatures from Middle Earth? Either love to see more of these "Will they survive the Mesozoic?" episodes.
truly AMAZING!!! this video is so beautiful it's interesting but above all I love the fact that the bat species had a symbiotic relationship with saurpods it's incredible even the sauropods adapted ah coexist with these little guys😁🦇 in general I liked everything about it, however I I liked every species, now every Halloween I will watch this video😉🎃
I honestly really like how you decided to also focus on the evolution of another creature as a result of these guys beating around I would like to see more of that
one possible problem I thought of with vampire bats prey in the Mesozoic compared to modern day is how thick the skin and or scales of dinosaurs are compared to modern large mammals. I'm unsure if dinosaur hide would be tougher than modern animals, and it may not be a problem at all. but I imagine scales could provide added protection and prevent the vampire bats from getting to blood vessels to drink. though I suppose on the flipside vampire bats might be small enough to find spots between scales to get to softer flesh to bite into. either way I think it might be something theyd need to adapt in speculative evolution to to make getting blood easier, either larger fangs to pierce the thicker flesh, or slender mouths to fit between scales.
If I remember right, there is at least one species of vampire bat alive today that does feed on lizards a lot, so perhaps some dinos being more cold-blooded might not be as much of a limitation as you may think.
Have you ever thought about placing multiple species into a new environment and seeing how they would adapt to not just the native fauna, but also each other? Also, is it possible to see possible spec evos of native animals in response to their new neighbors?
@MadlyMesozoic yeah, that's true, but I was meaning like, for example, like if several species of large cenozoic animals, that aren't necessarily related, were released into Hell's Creak formation at the same time, and stuff along those lines.
I was so happy seeing a new video upload! 😊 I'm from germany and just wanted to say that I really aprecciate you always adding celsius and kilogram, making your work and research more understandable for people like me :) I'm a biology student btw and we have the topic evolution currently in class. It's so refreshing to see somone being so interested and passionate about the way evolution, adaptation and creation of new species work!And the idea to mix fictional species or worlds with our reality makes it even more exciting! Naturally, we always need a little creative thinking and experimenting if we wanna know how evolution really works. Surprisingly, evolution is not always about "getting better and more adapted to your enviornment" but purly the change of a species over time. Sometimes, a new created feature has an advantage, so the individuals' biological fittness (number of offspring) increases and chances to pass down your new feature increase as well. So over time, that certain blood line dominates the whole population, making the individuals without the advantage going extinct :) But quiet often, certain developments don't have an advantage at all. The peakcock for example. It's colorful feathers only exist to impress the females. They have no surviving advantage at all. Even the opposite, a male peakcock is like a big target for predators. And the long, heavy feathers make it even more difficult for them to fly. So evolution is not always "perfect" and i just LOVE your videos, considering a species going lots of different ways to adapt to the environment and creating all different lifestyles to survive. Some of them staying alive longer and even changing further, while others don't last. Please keep up your fantastic work!
Truth be told I make these videos because I just like making fictional animals, and the survival assessment is a neat prompt to challenge my thinking- plus it's caught on pretty well.
As soon as I saw this I was thinking "Oh that's just a buffet line for them", but there's one thing you didn't discuss that you really should have, even when it was staring you in the face at 13:54 It isn't just rabies either, bats are massive pathogen carriers due to their strong immune systems. There is the thing that happened that we can't talk about without youtube freaking out to this day and many other diseases. They might even cause an extinction event here.
This was in my script initially but I cut it due to the fact I don't usually factor in disease in my videos- also because this video needed to get out sooner rather than later. When i do a follow up video for the Yemanstrigoi I will go more in depth with disease. I also thought about mentioning *the coof* but I didnt want to chance the demonetization.
@@MadlyMesozoic I think that's the smart call, on both. We're tip toeing around it in the comments so better to not mention it or do the same in any video and I think when doing these survival videos it is better to assume a purge of diseases from the creature's original place and time and immunization to whatever they'd encounter. Reminds me of an old discussion where people were debating who'd be able to survive in the middle ages. Someone said "I'd be their god/burned as a witch, sneeze on them and half the population would die." and the immediate response was "And you should be just as worried about them sneezing on you."
I had to share that brother wedding bit with my own brother. Cause we grew up playing Lego Star Wars, and he got married while I was overseas on deployment.
Even if there weren't many nocturnal species (that we know of), it wouldn't be long until several species adapt to take advantage of the new food source. Maybe you could do some spec evos about how native species would adapt to your invasive ones? Also, would the bats even be able to bite through sauropod hide?
(No sauropod skin thickness related) My only problem with this is whether they’d be able to adapt to the difference between the mammalian blood they are used to. But that also is by no means an expert opinion lol, I just genuinely don’t know if there would be a difference or not.
A criticism many of you have raised is that sauropod's skin would be too thick to penetrate. So here is why I don't think this would be a factor:
*1.* Vampire bats have the sharpest teeth of any living mammal- on par with that of a barber's razor- due to their lack of enamel their teeth are constantly sharpening themselves. They have been observed feeding on animals like Tapir and Caiman more rarely, both of which have pretty thick skin.
*2.* You do not have to cut *_all the way_* through the epidermis to induce bleeding. For us, it only requires 1-2mm of depth for a cut to make us bleed. For animals like Rhinos, or Hippos- who have some of the thickest hides of any land animal at 2.4 inches/6cm - it only takes at most 2cm or 0.8 inches to induce bleeding at the thickest parts of their skin. The *maximum* estimates for an average thickness of sauropod hides are about 7cm or 2.75 inches. Although there is a more recent study of _Haestasaurus_ that estimated that species's skin to be no more than 1mm thick with non-overlapping scales.
*3.* Even if we assume this maximum thickness estimate was true for sauropods in the Jehol Biota, it definitely wasn't consistent throughout the whole body and there would have been several weak spots such as the neck, between scales, the underbelly, face, behind joints, etc. But even then, this thickness wouldn't be a factor because of my previous points.
However- some of you did point out that Microraptor is now now believed to have been more capable of powered flight- and that is in an error on my part as I was going off of outdated information that I didn't know had changed.
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I see your point here and I agree. However, because of media and movies a lot of people see dinosaurs as movie monsters, not animals. So their assumptions of how tough or strong dinosaurs are can often be inaccurate.
Some people can be so silly it’s just a fun thought experiment about one of the coolest animals in the world, let’s all be chill and love the great video!
Do sauropods not have scales?
I see your points, but you could have mentioned that the bats would likely only feed on the thinner skin around the eyes, nose and ears. Even if the bats have very sharp teeth, it would be impractical for a 1-2 inch long animal to create a 0.8 inch deep incision. Also, sauropods would likely have thickened skin on their necks, as that is the location many predators would attack. This seems like information that would be necessary (or at least, very welcome) in a video like this.
First bat: Ying yang with big dino.
Second bat: Big happy family bat.
Third: Dracula.
Yemanstrigoi would definitely listen to Rob Zombie
@@MadlyMesozoic lol
@@MadlyMesozoic aha! I see what you did there, Strigoi, they are vampire-like monsters from Romanian mythology
@@MadlyMesozoic I was trying to say, that I like that you added that into the Spec evo, nice 😎👍
@@JeffreyDonnhey imagine how scary it would be if the dinosaur last thing to see are dark red eyes
Bats tasting Dino blood for the first time: why is it so spicy
how did u comment before the video came out???
@@zihansdocumentaryhe sigma
@@zihansdocumentary the video was scheduled to premiere and during that time you can comment
@@Just_Dino-ks4vc im sure theyve tasted birds before at some point
Bat tasting spinosaurus blood for the first time: hold on what that beeping sound?
I could just feel how giddy you were to just make vampires with that last one, It’s not even subtle and I respect that 👍
We do a little prioritizing creativity over realism
@@MadlyMesozoic Sometimes you wanna speculate what would happen if Raptors survive the ice age and became human pets,
Other times you want to say fuck that because prehistoric vampires are awesome!
Also, holy hell that was a really fast response, thank you so much!
Vampire bats when they travel back in time millions of years in order to escape their greastest enemy but they're still there:
Beavers could be interesting, for example: A beaver that had more behavioural evolution where they build massive fortress dams called "Holds." And they live in larger groups.
that's now just gonna be like the game called timberborn
@jayserdaguro4781 yea, I can see that.
You just want shory, hairy water dwarves, don't you.
@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 sorta, I was more interested in how beavers would affect the rivers' systems and the surrounding area. Because I think beavers are one of a kind and they're cool.
@@robot5626 fair enough.
The third speculative evolution feels more plausible than the future predator from Primeval show that evolved from bats
impossible to make a bat spec evo without primeval fans yapping
It’s not just Primeval, but also the man-bats from Genndy Tartakovsky’s Primal
@@MadlyMesozoic I mean it's a compliment
@MadlyMesozoic Now make the Gorgonpsid spec evolution fight and win against the Bat one again
@@MadlyMesozoic Heh you got that right. xD
the intense eye contact after the "hang out" joke had chuckling love the content found you with samson watched a lot of your stuff keep up the great work
Thanks for the support!
@@MadlyMesozoic you bet dude i love this stuff 😁
Considering how this niche would be EXTREMELY rewarding when everything was absolutely massive, I really think that there should have been a vertebrate that specialized in this way back then, and by chance we just haven't found evidence of one.
really went all in on making the Yemanstrigoi into a horror movie monster, huh?
also, just wanna say that its design overall reminded me of the Vargheist and Varghulf units from Warhammer Fantasy's Vampire Counts
The Warhammer strigoi were a bit if an inspiration
24:13 Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised strigoi boy here goes extinct very soon after they evolved into what they are. Animals with such aggression ingrained into them even towards their own kind, especially their mates, and their own kin, is an extinction waiting to happen.
... Tasmanian devils...
@ that’s different Tasmanian Devil’s aren’t as aggressive as media had made them out to be they’re actually quite adorable and docile creatures so long as there’s enough food to go around. They just act aggressive to intimidating others.
Yeah, especially since the females only give birth 1-2 times in their *entire* lives and only to litters of at most 5. In practice, even lower since they apparently kill their less developed siblings. I don't think they could meet replacement rates unless the adults are somehow unbelievably good at escaping predation.
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Even 65 million years ago CaseOh is getting trolled
April Fools 2025 is gonna be a good video
@@MadlyMesozoic you have my attention. Mind spelling the beans
@@MadlyMesozoicI sorta hoped for something else (which goddamn forgot what it was 💀), however now you have unbridled attention
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Dude the quality of this video is actually crazy. You seriously out do yourself every time like damn
The book frames, the animations, the speculative evolutions... it's insane. I was seriously wondering how you were going to bullshit a clearly parasitic relationship into becoming symbiotic, but damn it you did it. And it's actually plausible, too. Making it easy for females to pick out the most "nutritious" partner is convincing. All 3 were great. Basing them off of (criminally underrepresented) Chinese mythology was also a really cool choice.
My man accidentally made a speculative evolutionary take on Man-Bat!
@@DevonLeSuer I doubt it was accidental
Bro created a whole ass cryptid
The yemanstrigoi is genuinely terrifying, the idea of encountering one in person makes my skin crawl
When you went over "The bats have ecolocation" i knew the mesosoic stood no chance.
**Shudders in Orca ptsd**
16:50 This is where Madly recorded himself peeing outside
Never knew bats were so intelligent and social. Very underrated
Hi Madly Mesozoic, Thank you for your vampire bat video. The editing, the art, and the quality are just phenomenal as much as ratatouille. I can tell why it took so long. This is why I respect you. You deliver entertaining bits of biology and speculative evolution. Thank you for your gift of a video.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
This might be your best spec Evo segment you've ever done
You caught me off when you said “11 foot bats” like what kind of wingspan is that 😭
A 1:2 wingspan to body length ratio.
for some reason i feel the blood on the notes implies the Yemanstrigoi is still around, which is a horrifying thought.
great work as always.
Bats are my favourite animal, so I was stoked to see this. As someone of Chinese ancestry myself I’m also impressed you recognised the good fortune connotations of bats in Chinese culture.
I was particularly intrigued by the coevolution prospects of a bat with a sauropod and I’d be honestly very interested in seeing something similar in the future
Idea:
1)Could Camel survive in permian desert?
2)Could Entelodont & Hyaenodont survive in pleistocene eurasia?
3)Could Basilosaurus & livyatan survive in cretaceous ocean?
4)Could Nanuqsaurus survive in pleistocene north america?
5)Could Australopithecus in survive pleistocene australia?
6) a real could humans survive the Mesozoic video
7) something with the aliens from project hail marry either the Eridians or the Astrophage on earth of some other fictional planet
3) Livyatan in cretaceous ocean has been done by Vividens, it gets a 10/10.
Livyathan would completely screw up the Mesozoic, Basilosaurus though, that's more of a fair challenge
8)Did hippos survive in Pleistocene Australia?
9)Would a terror bird survive in the Mesozoic?
10)Would skullcrawler survive in Middle Earth?
11)Would an eagle survive in the Mesozoic?
12)Would Pygmy Mammoth Survive in Cenozoic Australia?
13)Would sauropods survive in Eurasia during the Ice Age?
14)Would hippopotamus survive in South America in the Paleocene?
Weridly enough I do want to see how the fifth one goes because as well all known by now Australia had no humans back then nor have something equivalent to that so what if they literally did the main example being same thing or situations happening in Australia like in the mainland but not to extreme like it’s descentants in our timeline because of this Australia doesn’t get hit hard when (maybe) dingoes show up and mainly humans later.
Finally you're back!! I love assessing survival!!
Loving it! I hope we can see a part 2 and watch them evolve further, if they survive the asteroid and beyond.
Here's a few ideas I had:
1. Could Terror Birds survive the Mesozoic?
2. Could Dunkleosteus survive the Cenozoic?
3. Could Deviljho survive in the Star Wars universe? (Not sure which planet would fit the best, but I'm thinking Kashyyyk or Felucia could work well)
4. Could Eurypterids (specifically Jeakelopterus) survive the Mesozoic?
5. Could Megalodon survive the Cretaceous?
as a Star Wars fan, I would say that Kashyyyk would be the most fun planet to put Deviljoh in, the Shadowlands would be one HELL of a test for the Deviljho
Absolutely great suggestions you made! I hope some of these scenarios you proposed can be made into videos I'm moreso talking about the real prehistoric animal ones as I find that more interesting myself
Hadn't considered Dunkleosteous in the Cenozoic before that'd be something although I feel like they might struggle with competition potentially
In my opinion, this was the best video on the channel, the arts, the concepts, the representation of names in the local culture, incredible
Easily! Imagine the hundreds species that would evolve and have different preferences
I love the yemanstrigoi! Wolf sized vampire bats are cool!
Bats in Mesozoic intriguing. I look forward to see where evolution goes with these species. If you are open to ideal of episode, I would love to see Spinosaurus aegyptiacus, 4 to 2 million years ago in Africa through ancient Egypt to present day, that would a good speculative evolution/history. That would be a pretty good episode of Assessing survival.
20:48 HOLY COW IT'S FUTURE PREDATOR THE ORIGIN!!!!
Dude your art is improving a lot. Like every new thing gets better.
I think this might be my favorite episode yet!! I love the idea of huge swarms of bats flying through the Cretaceous to feed on titans, so cool!
I also really like the speculation, especially the symbiotic relationship in the first one
Good to see the classic specevo trope of a Predatory Vampire Bat
I think a cool idea for a video would be about how well the Roman Empire would have fared if Dinosaurs had still existed. Honestly, just imagine how cool the gladiator fights would have been.
@sebastianhanna8161 Imagine if Hannibal had led an army of triceratops or saurapods across the alps to sack Rome...
@@laurencewinch-furness9450 Or Julius Caesar and his guards riding on the back of theropods like Saltriovenator.
@sebastianhanna8161 this would be pretty cool.
Dinosaurs in the classical era.
maybe gigachad Alexander and his generals passed on Dinosaur eggs from outside of Europe and brought them into the Mediterranean areas domesticated.
I believe there is a book series about this just happened during the battle of Waterloo I think
Man how can you be so talented and cool You're amazing I freaking love your videos still waiting to the road to the 1 milion
Bats in the Mesozoic.. Interesting.
You should do one if Lemurs Survive the Mesozoic (Reference to the 2000 Disney film)
Perhaps you could work on a speculative world where some modern scientists were messing around with experimental time travel technology, and accidentally sent a whole host of random plants and animals from our time to a parallel world set millions of years ago. Now they have reconnected to this world and are studying how the animals of our time have adapted to a world dominated by dinosaurs and likewise how the dinosaurs and other creatures of this period have adapted in turn.
This man is the actual goat when it comes to these videos
As a Dino nerd and a Vampire the Masquerade Nerd, I really liked this video the most.
i love the little easter eggs you put in your videos, like the one at 4:15
I have been waiting for you to do another Assessing Survival, I love this series espeically the speculative evolution.
Oh sweet! I can watch this tomorrow morning! Not before everyone else though!
Here is a list of future video ideas:
Real Life/Extinct Creatures:
Could Purlovias survive in the Cenozoic?
Could Dingos survive in the Cenozoic?
Could Lemurs survive in the Cenozoic?
Could Komodo Dragons survive in the Mesozoic?
Could Rhinos survive in the Mesozoic?
Could Real Life Dinosaurs survive on Skull Island? (2005 King Kong)
Could Cenozoic Mammals survive on Skull Island? (2005 King Kong)
Could Terror Birds survive in the Mesozoic?
Fantasy/Non-Fictional Creatures:
Could the Tarrasque survive on Tatooine? (Dungeons & Dragons) (Star Wars)
Could Therocephalia survive Fae’run? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Could Velonasaur survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved)
Could Morellatops survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved)
Could Oasisaur survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Ascended)
Could Megachelon survive in the Mesozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved)
Could the Megapithecus survive in the Cenozoic? (Ark Survival Evolved)
Could the Broodmother Lysrix survive in the Carboniferous Period during the Paleozoic Era? (Ark Survival Evolved)
Could The Night Feeder survive in the Mesozoic? (Genndy Tartakovsky's Primal)
Could Fasolasuchus survive in the Cenozoic? (65 Movie)
Could Indoraptor survive in the Mesozoic? (Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom)
Could Indominus Rex survive in the Mesozoic? (Jurassic World)
Could Scorpios Rex survive in the Mesozoic? (Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous)
Could Skull Island Dinosaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (2005 King Kong)
Could Skull Island Mammals survive in the Cenozoic? (2005 King Kong)
Could Indoraptor survive on the 2005 Skull Island? (Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom)
Could Indominus Rex survive on the 2005 Skull Island? (Jurassic World)
Could Scorpios Rex survive on the 2005 Skull Island? (Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous)
Could Arkosaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs)
Could Naxocertops survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs)
Could Hilierosaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs)
Could Cassosaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs)
Could Gorgoraptor survive in the Mesozoic? (Combat Of Giants Dinosaurs)
Could Godzillasaurus survive in the Mesozoic? (Godzilla Minus One)
Could Abolethus survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Could the Tarrasque survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Could Regisaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Could Altisaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Could Ceratops survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Could Aerosaurs survive in the Mesozoic? (Dungeons & Dragons)
Great work. I like how we also got a titanosaur that has a symbiotic relationship with one of the bats.
21:28 I quess these guys would survive to modern day and become the Vampires of our stories
This video is awesome!! I always love the speculative evolution stuff, i grew up with the future is wild series, so this is one of my favorite topics, i love how bats instantly feed on sauropods, free food source, at the point of being actually symbiotic relation with them, and the last ones, absolute madness of a monster maded creature, awesome!!!
Damn this was such a great video. The larger 2 spec evo bats give me some type of El Cupacabra vibe with their blood sucking predatory nature. Also the symbiotic relationship between the Pendhaemmys and Haemmysotitan is really cool and creative (the pattern on the sauropod also looks gorgeous).
Another 10/10 worth the wait
Ima go have nightmares for a sec brb
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I learned so much from this vid, and I love the ideas and names you had for them!
(Honestly when hearing about how so many bats could feed off of a single sauropod, it made me picture some of them evolving a parasitic lifestyle, no longer needing to travel in search of food but instead spending most or all of their life clinging to and feeding on a single individual, perhaps only leaving to search for mates from other colonies, and with even a single sauropod being capable of supporting a relatively large number of these parasites without any real ill effects)
THIS IS MY FAVORITE VIDEO EVER!!!!!!
Glad to hear it. 😊👍
In theory Yemanstrigoi would be the bat to survive the KT extinction. Its ability to enter Torpor for decades means they can potentially sleep their way through the initial devastation. Provided they arent discovered and devoured while in torpor. With some potential downsizing, they could wake up, gorge themselves for a few weeks to put on fat reserves then go back to sleep for another few decades then reawaken to repeat the process.
One of these days, you will have to make a seed world where you put all your spec evo animals together
I love the spec evo for this episode with the extremely innovative concepts, bonus dinosaur and slightly flawed but earnest and interesting attempts at using Chinese names/words/concepts. Keep it up!
This is by far one of the best episodes so far! I loved the mix of speculative zoology and Chinese culture! You are great! It was totally worth the wait!
19:24 I love how “A1 - It’s just a burning memory” plays here.
God I loved the spec evo Vampire Bats are one of if not my favorite animals of all time and the different spec evos are just fantastic. I could definitely see both Wufubian ling and potentially Yemanstrigoi jeholi surviving the Cretaceous Mass Extinction, and would love a follow-up episode where they and some other of your spec evos are shown adapting to the world post-meteorite; Which ones would falter, which would take on the role of Apex Predator, and which would simply dive even greater into their niches?
I think this is your best video yet, fantastic work!
Here we go with a analysis:
1. The whole idea of parasite to symbiote remind me of All Tomorrows and we got a bonus dino with it.
2. Bats have social bonds is not like other mammals that have hierachy but this a good idea of how it could look like.
3. You did you crazy S of B you make the most unique spin of the "land bat trope" they still have eyes as their vision is already decent and they are gliders, good job man.
Love the art and the creativity you’re putting into the speculative evolution. Keep it up!
wow, what ideas between the "ying bat" as a concept reminds me of the movie "Arthur and the Minimoys" is a 2006 English-language French live-action/animated fantasy film, then with their "perfume-curing" pee for their titanic companions, then with the idea of the "living-condominium" and really interesting!
your terrible "Strigoi" reminds me a lot of a 'possible' ancestor of the future predator from the Primeval series (I hope this "jura-vampire" is well fed!) or a "were-bat"
damn you really cooked for this one
Video Idea: Could Ankylosaurus survive in Miocene North America?
Maybe. But I don't know how they would cope with the increasingly global climate cooling.
One of the most fascinating spec evos so far from a perspective of the vampire bats unique diet
I think it is obligatory that whenever anyone does bat speculative evolution, at least one option needs to be absolutely terrifying; the yemanstrigoi definitely qualifies. The vampire bat did even better than I was expecting. It’s much easier for things that are low in the food chain to survive in other environments and time periods, but I was really happy to see how well the specialist did. You don’t have to make such cohesive themes throughout your videos, but you do so anyway. Thank you once again for always going that extra mile.
@MadlyMesozoic, This is a great video, I think these vampire bats would not only survive but thrive in the land of dinosaurs.
Dude! More of these of episodes! Although, would love to see you use the Deviljho for an episode, like what happens if those species end up in the Mesozoic? Or the creatures from Middle Earth? Either love to see more of these "Will they survive the Mesozoic?" episodes.
Those third little pricks 100% would be in Jurassic Park movies or something
truly AMAZING!!! this video is so beautiful it's interesting but above all I love the fact that the bat species had a symbiotic relationship with saurpods it's incredible even the sauropods adapted ah coexist with these little guys😁🦇 in general I liked everything about it, however I I liked every species, now every Halloween I will watch this video😉🎃
Thank you so much!
@@MadlyMesozoicYou're welcome, you always make me smile with your videos😁
this is my favorite video so far, i love the spec evos and the general theme, great job :D
Please do something similar with Hyenas
I can imagine the microraptor eating any vampire bats that are on Sauropods similar to how oxpecker eat ticks off rhinos creating a sort of symbiosis
The first 2 Bats were so cute. But that last one... no shit it is called a ghost. Holy shit, reminds me of the Aswung.
man i gotta say, this is probably my favorite assesing survival episode so far.
I love your videos
Im glad you enjoy them!
Anyways time to put this on my speculative Evolution playlist S.E
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Speculative evolution playlist❤️
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I honestly really like how you decided to also focus on the evolution of another creature as a result of these guys beating around I would like to see more of that
Considering drawing each one takes a considerable amount of time, probably not gonna be a common occurrence.
one possible problem I thought of with vampire bats prey in the Mesozoic compared to modern day is how thick the skin and or scales of dinosaurs are compared to modern large mammals.
I'm unsure if dinosaur hide would be tougher than modern animals, and it may not be a problem at all. but I imagine scales could provide added protection and prevent the vampire bats from getting to blood vessels to drink.
though I suppose on the flipside vampire bats might be small enough to find spots between scales to get to softer flesh to bite into.
either way I think it might be something theyd need to adapt in speculative evolution to to make getting blood easier, either larger fangs to pierce the thicker flesh, or slender mouths to fit between scales.
If I remember right, there is at least one species of vampire bat alive today that does feed on lizards a lot, so perhaps some dinos being more cold-blooded might not be as much of a limitation as you may think.
My favorite one has to be the one with the sauropod and the bat symbiotic relationship🦕🦇
Hope your safe from the hurricanes love your videos
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Another really good episode as always! :)
Have you ever thought about placing multiple species into a new environment and seeing how they would adapt to not just the native fauna, but also each other? Also, is it possible to see possible spec evos of native animals in response to their new neighbors?
Yes i did this with the Apes episode
@MadlyMesozoic yeah, that's true, but I was meaning like, for example, like if several species of large cenozoic animals, that aren't necessarily related, were released into Hell's Creak formation at the same time, and stuff along those lines.
I was so happy seeing a new video upload! 😊 I'm from germany and just wanted to say that I really aprecciate you always adding celsius and kilogram, making your work and research more understandable for people like me :) I'm a biology student btw and we have the topic evolution currently in class. It's so refreshing to see somone being so interested and passionate about the way evolution, adaptation and creation of new species work!And the idea to mix fictional species or worlds with our reality makes it even more exciting! Naturally, we always need a little creative thinking and experimenting if we wanna know how evolution really works. Surprisingly, evolution is not always about "getting better and more adapted to your enviornment" but purly the change of a species over time. Sometimes, a new created feature has an advantage, so the individuals' biological fittness (number of offspring) increases and chances to pass down your new feature increase as well. So over time, that certain blood line dominates the whole population, making the individuals without the advantage going extinct :) But quiet often, certain developments don't have an advantage at all. The peakcock for example. It's colorful feathers only exist to impress the females. They have no surviving advantage at all. Even the opposite, a male peakcock is like a big target for predators. And the long, heavy feathers make it even more difficult for them to fly. So evolution is not always "perfect" and i just LOVE your videos, considering a species going lots of different ways to adapt to the environment and creating all different lifestyles to survive. Some of them staying alive longer and even changing further, while others don't last. Please keep up your fantastic work!
Truth be told I make these videos because I just like making fictional animals, and the survival assessment is a neat prompt to challenge my thinking- plus it's caught on pretty well.
Great video as always. I really appreciate you using metric system as well
As soon as I saw this I was thinking "Oh that's just a buffet line for them", but there's one thing you didn't discuss that you really should have, even when it was staring you in the face at 13:54
It isn't just rabies either, bats are massive pathogen carriers due to their strong immune systems. There is the thing that happened that we can't talk about without youtube freaking out to this day and many other diseases. They might even cause an extinction event here.
This was in my script initially but I cut it due to the fact I don't usually factor in disease in my videos- also because this video needed to get out sooner rather than later. When i do a follow up video for the Yemanstrigoi I will go more in depth with disease. I also thought about mentioning *the coof* but I didnt want to chance the demonetization.
@@MadlyMesozoic I think that's the smart call, on both. We're tip toeing around it in the comments so better to not mention it or do the same in any video and I think when doing these survival videos it is better to assume a purge of diseases from the creature's original place and time and immunization to whatever they'd encounter.
Reminds me of an old discussion where people were debating who'd be able to survive in the middle ages. Someone said "I'd be their god/burned as a witch, sneeze on them and half the population would die." and the immediate response was "And you should be just as worried about them sneezing on you."
Amazing video! Very interesting speculative evolutions.
I have a feeling that the yemanstrigoi would make a present in a Creature Feature video as a cryptids of modern day Asia.
The strigoi spec evo would be an incredible creature in a horror series. The hibernation aspect gave me chills thinking about it.
The goat has returned
Genuinely curious: Could the tiny vampy bat teeth get through dino skin? Would they have to follow injured dinos only?
Amazing! love the playfulness of the animal clipouts
It's all fun and games till' the Bats start running towards you
I had to share that brother wedding bit with my own brother. Cause we grew up playing Lego Star Wars, and he got married while I was overseas on deployment.
The GOAT is back!
Even if there weren't many nocturnal species (that we know of), it wouldn't be long until several species adapt to take advantage of the new food source. Maybe you could do some spec evos about how native species would adapt to your invasive ones?
Also, would the bats even be able to bite through sauropod hide?
(No sauropod skin thickness related) My only problem with this is whether they’d be able to adapt to the difference between the mammalian blood they are used to. But that also is by no means an expert opinion lol, I just genuinely don’t know if there would be a difference or not.