Nah, straight up unsubscribing for you reducing trauma to being upset and inconvenienced. That's an insult to everyone that has ever suffered an actual traumatic event.
I'm so glad Ro addressed people claiming "trauma" as a word was being abused by the guys. A relationship breakdown, their livelihoods threatened, looming legal issues all as a sudden reality to the three of them? Any one of those things could be traumatic. They gained weight, lost weight, the patterns of their lives stopped. What good comes of dunking on them for saying they experienced a trauma? Men are allowed to be stressed, depressed and shocked.
Bruh the amount of trust issues someone could gain from just any friend for that long doing this is horrific let alone a BUSINESS partner and someone who's spouse was also your friend.
People just don't understand what the term "trauma" means, they think it means a life altering negative effect but within psychology it really just refers to the effect from any negative event and each has different weight depending on what the event is and how the individual would respond. F.e. totaling your car would suck but it's most likely not gonna be as big a source of trauma as the unexpected passing of a loved one but they can still both be events that cause trauma. Similarly, the totaling of ones car will have a different impact depending on the person; someone who is well off who lives in a city with decent public transport might not be heavily impacted by such an event but for someone who depends on their car for mobility and doesn't have much money it could be a great source of trauma and stress. There have even been attempts within psychology to measure how much trauma different events can cause an individual which is unsurprisingly a mixed bag since trauma is not exactly a measurable metric.
@handsoap thanks for putting this down in words. I’ve experienced lots of dismissal regarding the trauma I carry bc the inciting events haven’t seemed dramatic or horrifying enough compared to the popular understanding of what causes trauma. Bc of this I dismissed my own feelings for most of my life and even hated myself for being fucked up but having no good reason for it. I hope that deeper understanding of traumatic causes, effects, and healing practices will spread.
Or heartbroken. I know, I would have been in their place: he was their friend, they built a whole busines together, he introduced them to his wife and kids, they have a relationship with them too, etc.
The parallels you draw to your own life are really impactful and show tremendous growth in your writing. I always look forward to your videos because I know more and more that they’ll surprise me. With that said, I had no idea we could cheat on our wives and I look forward to trying that out! Thanks for the recommendation!
As someone with OCD who still struggles, here's a way to cope with intrusive thoughts that my therapist has given me to try (so far it's doing good): when you have an intrusive thought instead of approaching it with feelings of shame or fear, look at them inquisitively, then drop the thought. "You could cut your hand with that knife right now and bleed everywhere." Yes that is dangerous; it is sharp. "My cat's leg is so small, I could break it if I wanted to. It trusts me so much, it wouldn't expect it." Yes, it is small, it's a small animal. Yes, it does trust you because you're a good owner. Remember that you are not your intrusive thoughts, you are not that voice in your brain telling you awful things at the worst times. It is a disorder, it is possible to heal. Be kind to yourself and I hope this helps ❤️
I have always had intrusive thoughts like that. But idk what that means. Does it mean I have ocd even though i dont have other symptoms that interfere with my life?
@@ilikeseals1732 While I’m far from an expert (please take this with a healthy grain of salt), I think it’s possible to have overlapping symptoms without having the disorder itself. I think mental health content on platforms like tiktok make it easy for people to think they have certain disorders just by exhibiting some of the associated symptoms that turn out to be quite common, though I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here. Obviously the safest thing would be to consult a professional, though I know that’s not an option for everyone. Anyways I hope you have a good day :)
Holy fuck. You just made me realise the cat thing was an intrusive thought. I have ocd and I didn’t even realise that was an intrusive thought I though I was just cruel. Thank you.
@@ilikeseals1732 intrusive thoughts are fairly common, it’s when you obsess over them that it’s considered ocd. This is only from my limited knowledge though, I’m not an expert
As a fellow OCD sufferer especially one with rampant "bad/fake person" anxieties this hits on so many different levels, I'm so genuinely glad you're out there
Came expecting trashy drama, was drawn in by the gorgeous eye makeup, stayed for the eloquently put and exceptionally well spoken thoughts and experiences.
Already said it before but I wanted to comment it here your script writing skills are incredible you wrote this like a whole tv show damn near with an A main story, B side stories, and a C story that you’ve been building up from the beginning it’s true art and I love this format of a video essay it’s really different and innovative the way that you tied your personal experiences back to Ned and the try guys and just how you tackled the entire situation with empathy and still keeping your same type of humor was phenomenal
@@SaintShion I'm really happy it helped prevent that happening again, I hope Ro considers incorporating the photosensitivy warning into the video next time.
thank you for talking about OCD in such a visceral, gut punching way - I can finally show someone a clip that describes the experience in the way it feels.
Thank you Rose for deciding to try out You Tube. What a year it’s been! I’m old enough to be your mother but I chose not to have kids. But if I had, I would feel so damn lucky to have such an intelligent, sharp, masterful writer as my daughter. Someone whose sense of humor can’t help but peak through in dark times, that is so witty I have to slow down my watch speed to make sure I catch everything, and who expresses every aspect of being human in such a tangible way, that I feel and see the many comments of others and they understand more. Of themselves, of others but also make them question things. Today I learned even more about OCD, and what a truly personal hell it can be. You’ll probably hate (my poor punctuation and run on sentences but I already took my sleep gummies). I’m so happy you had such a supportive mom. You’re emotional intelligence, sense of curiosity (especially of the human condition), and the love I can almost feel radiating from you. Thank you for the education, laughs, sending me on Google searches for hours to learn more about something, to look at things differently. So happy one year to you ❤ and before you doubt me there are multi-millionaires on YT who still promote their Patreons and there’s no cool benefits. Even none at all. And I get about saving for the future, but when they’re decked out in head to toe Gucci…and then what you said about yours. That says a lot. Actually it was taking an action which is worth much more. You’re probably hating all of this plus the fact it’s a huuuge paragraph. Sorry. But thank you, Ro. So very much.
Your description of your experience with ocd was one of the most incredibly validating things I’ve ever heard. It brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for this.
you need some kind of award for your trigger warnings like idk if you’ll see this but i just wanted to thank you for acknowledging depression, because i really do need that sometimes and this is the first time ive seen it addressed. idk it just really meant a lot to me
I feel this so much.... it's outstanding how she can create this immersive experience with her writing yet still preparing us for what's coming...I feel safe knowing what's gonna be discussed and to what extent.... because yes descriptions of mental health issues do trigger us the ppl suffering from them
You have one of the best explanations of what ocd is like for me. Its not about cleanliness not at least in the physical form. Its an issue of viewing yourself as clean, clean of all the intrusive thoughts, that you aren't the person your brain is yelling at you that you are. You can feel so trapped in it all just to feel clean, feel pure and like yourself again.
Ro reaches into the figurative throat of my psyche to figure out exactly which topic I want to hear her talk about and then emerges and presents it to me while shaking violently like a damaged chihuahua. Very excited!
"We've avoided the full Lewinski of it all" As someone who remembers the 90s, I'm so glad that we're getting to a point where you don't hear as much of women being painted as a 'homewrecker' while the behavior of a man in a position of power is practically shrugged off.
Holy Fuck I couldn’t imagine how hard it is to struggle with moral scrupulosity and be a content creator. You’re very brave for that and it’s inspiring since I struggle with the same.
i think you hit the nail on the head when it comes to the try guys' "nice boys" branding, like there's this idea that white guys who choose not to punch down in their humor, who are "unproblematic" or "wholesome," are somehow MORE worthy of praise than non-white non-men who wouldn't have that same power to punch down in the first place. i was telling my friend the other day that people's obsession with figures like the try guys or the mcelroys on the basis of them seeming to be decent men is both an insultingly low bar and an impossibly high standard
Also why is no one talking about them already knowing about this? A month ago people were telling about situations where Ned tried hitting on them in front of the other guys. It's weird.
@@RapidBlindfolds I think what they were getting at is that no one is praising black comedians as "unproblematic faves" or "wholesome" for not being transphobic, that level of praise is usually only reserved for white men. This is not to say that other marginalised people cant punch down of discriminate against other marginalised people, only that them doing the bare minimum is never used as a selling point or praise worthy
this is the type of video that needs to be watched on a big screen. also, thank you for talking about ocd. i was home bound for about a year due to ocd, one of the darkest times in my life. i had a fear of lines on the ground starting as cracks in asphalt but gradually turning to all surfaces with lines: wood, linoleum, painted lines, even some carpets weren’t “safe.” i couldn’t go anywhere. my whole school had linoleum flooring except for guidance so of course i spent all my time there. i was sent halfway across the country to residential treatment after i stopped going to school. it’s hard for me to think about that experience to this day, but i’ve improved so much. ocd is incredibly debilitating and nearly ruined my life before i was sent to treatment. thank you for talking about it.
Thank you for the accurate portrayal of obsessive compulsive disorder. Your editing mimics intrusive thoughts. It was so weird to watch, like staring into a mirror. I relapsed in 2020 and 2021, too. It’s a lonely illness.
i feel you. it's a lonely illness and it makes you feel alone in the world, doubting of everyone around me in my case and such. but trust me it WILL get better. just gotta be patient..
i relapsed in 2020-2021 too, got really bad for a while. i wasn't very lonely in the technical sense but it really is an illness that makes you feel alone.
Something interesting that I've noticed is how for many fans/onlookers (myself included, a little) are reaching further into this purity culture for comfort, by raising the other remaining try guys yet further on pedestals of morality. the try guys have done a brilliant job PR-ing themselves out of this, and we want to have their morals and integrity reaffirmed to us after the shock of Ned's 'betrayal'. praise has been lavished on these men for doing the decent thing, for firing him, for looking after their employee, and for expressing emotions. don't get me wrong, i genuinely like the try guys and who they present themselves to be, but it is a little laughable how easy it is to become god-like in twitter's eyes for following the basic HR guidelines when you're a man in a position of power.
the part where you talk about being 14 and all the thoughts you had made me burst out sobbing because i still, at age 22, deal with thoughts like this and it helped reassure me, just a little, that maybe i'm not as evil as i think i am. you've seriously become my favorite creator and i love everything you put out, thank you ro
"We are giving him an elevated social position through the transformation of his wife from person to adoration personified." You're so right for saying that.
“Run me my check, cracker!” Lmaoooo. Also, I’m in the process of getting diagnosed with OCD and your experiences with intrusive thoughts were so painfully relatable. I hate that you went through that, but it’s nice to know I’m not alone. Thank you for sharing. ❤️
the whole try guy scandal hurts more than any other cheating scandal to me bc it was with an employee! a big part of the Try Guys is that they bring in their staff into the videos, we see BTS of everyone, get videos with the staff and they get to bring their personality onto our screens. we KNOW Ned's wife. we KNOW Ned's kids. (in the way that an audience can know anyone) To me, it's not just that Ned was a wife guy. Ned made it his brand, he brought his family in and tied them to his fame. it's not like what SNL made it out to be: it's not Beyonce and Jay-Z, it's Monica and Bill Clinton. Miles said it best when he asked if people thought that the Bill Clinton scandal was just about cheating. it's more than that. it's the legal ramifications of it all, the betrayal, the TRAUMA! God, I know too much about them as I've been watching them since I was a teen, since the BuzzFeed days. But Eugene is a child of divorce, the guys were all friends with the wife, and the wife was in many videos and projects with the guys. There's no way to detanlge any of this. To know that Ned would feel so comfortable in himself that he'd go out on dates with someone who is obviously not his wife and even more obviously his supordinate, shows that they'd been doing it for a while. Bc why would you go to a sold out Harry Styles concert?? But anyway, your talk about OCD is very validating and eye opening. I don't have OCD myself, but ADHD. I didn't end up getting help until I tried to really hurt myself bc my mom didn't really understand the seriousness of my depression when I went to her at 14. amazing video nonetheless, and a great addition to the discourse.
You describe OCD in a better way than anyone else. We talk about the symptoms but never the effects. I remember when I got therapy and medication I realized I didn’t know who I was because I had been so convinced I was those thoughts. Discovering that hollow shell of myself and building my own identity inside it was one of the best experiences of my life because I was free to do it for the first time
i love the editing in this video it was super cool and then the way you tied everything to the first line of the video blew my mind.also the rose asides were rlly fun. best 40 mins I've spent today
i know how terrifying living with ocd is it literally is living your worst fear without end it can follow you in your sleep and attaches it self to anything and everything it will make triggers from nothing. thank you for sharing
This has nothing to do with the video, but watching Ro make videos is inspiring to me. It's been hard just being trans and seeing someone have fun and give relatable commentary just makes me think it does get better. Also woo sponsor
your videos feel more and more like art every time. there's something you've put to words, sounds, visuals that ive felt deeply and still cannot find a way express... thank you for the heartfelt and rough honesty about mental health
You videos are always so unbelievably cinematic and grandiose, while feeling somehow comforting despite following usually upsetting topics. I adore when you upload since I know it’ll be just mindblowing, and ofc effortlessly witty. Congrats on one year❤️
I’m not sure that Alex was a victim, but I’m also not sure she was a perpetrator. I know she was Ariel’s friend so if she was with him enthusiastically, then she did do a fucked up thing in that she stabbed her friend in the back. According to her ex-fiancé, she gaslit him bad and emotionally abused him, but as far as a power imbalance, that would fall squarely on Ned.
as someone else with ocd the second i saw the beginning of the first fire-aside i knew what was coming. i understand exactly what you're talking about, and i'm so glad to hear someone else talking about it in such a real and visceral way.
You did such a good job of describing how and why it's so disappointing when a "good guy" public figure does something shitty. I can fully admit that I have latched onto certain male creators and celebrities who seem to share my values, sometimes to the point of putting them up on a pedestal, which I know is always a bad idea. I also have OCD and a lot of my obsessive thoughts are related to misogyny in media, so I know how it feels to constantly be trying to avoid triggers in a world that seems determined to mess you up, and I definitely know how it feels to hope and pray that men can be better, even when you are repeatedly shown that they can't. Back in the first half of the 2010s, I could barely use social media - especially youtube, the cesspool - because of how terrible the humor was and how disgusting men acted. When the tides finally started to change and guys like Drew Gooden, Danny Gonzales, and various leftubers became really popular, I finally felt like it was safe for me to enjoy parts of the internet again. These types of guys hold a special place in my heart, simply because they made a career being funny on the internet without making me literally want to off myself. I was never attached to the Try Guys, I only have a surface level knowledge of who they are and what they do, but I still completely sympathize with anyone who feels crushed by recent events. If I ever found out that hbomberguy is a sex offender or D'Angelo Wallace kicks dogs for fun or something nuts like that, I would be devastated.
it kinda feels sad writing this but the way you talked about having ocd is one of the most relatable experiences of ocd i’ve heard from someone but that’s just my personal experience ik people experience ocd in many other ways
Thank you for talking about OCD. I felt something crack open in my chest when you described your fears and anxieties relating to being “good and pure” and the constant fear of harming others. I’ve been diagnosed with and experienced symptoms of a bunch of different disorders but my extended OCD breakdown was one of the worst and one I was ill prepared for. I love your writing and sense of pacing and production and look forward to every upload!! Take care and have a wonderful day :)
I have my 100k RUclips thing hung up and it gives me anxiety whenever I look at it. I think i may take out the Play button and use the frame for a picture of a really chubby ferret.
watching your videos often makes me feel more seen than i do in a lot of other contexts. i was kicked out recently and have been moving around couch surfing, in hotels, and more recently in a shelter before i landed in transitional housing. im 18 and autustic and have intense intrusive thoughts every time i am alone, and now that im living alone its only amplified. i slept all of today to get away from them because i had no other plans and didnt want to confront them. theres comfort in hearing that i am not alone, even if it is through some sort of (inevitable) parasocial relationship. also this video really did sum up everything ive been thinking about the situation pretty well. good video loved it amazing :]
Your aside on OCD and especially the part about feeling like a sexual deviant really resonated with me, to the point that I'm shaking. I don't have the words but thank you for your vulnerability and honesty. It helped me
real talk though my dad also died when i was little and he definitely fell victim to patriarcal expectations for christian men. as a result my relationship with masculinity has become dodgy, to say the least. men in media i looked up to progressively letting me down leaves me disillusioned and wondering what version of myself will do the least amount of damage.
It’s interesting to see how SNL tried to frame it as a matter to be brushed off in context of their history of abuse allegations and similar “consensual workplace relationships”. Also you improve with every video, this one scratched my brain in a perfect way and thank you for being vulnerable and sharing those personal anecdotes with us.
the sections about ocd and intrusive thoughts were some of the best things ive ever heard as someone who struggles with those same kind of intrusive thoughts, thank you ro it was a wonderful video!!!
I don’t have OCD, but I have anxiety with intrusive thoughts (which I thought were real for a while) and and a heightened sense of guilt, the section where you talked about your personal experiences really spoke to me, great video!
This is the first time I’ve ever heard the kind of OCD I struggle with described in the same way I’ve experienced IT. You and I are truly not alone 💙 this is such a beautiful and fantastic video - thank you
for the first 18 or so years of my life, i was tormented by the feeling that i didnt really have emotions, and i had simply learned how to mimic them from my parents and and TV. i feared that if i were put to the test by something serious, like the inevitable death of one of my grandparents, my programming would fail and i would be unable to cry at the funeral.
i appreciate you mentioning the ‘trauma’ conversation. gatekeeping trauma is *cringe* and *boomer* mentality (aka, prevents people from being able to heal, connect with others, and redirect patterns of harm to themselves and others). you don’t need to have full blown PTSD for something to be traumatic to you. i also wouldn’t be surprised if one or all of the try guys’ reaction to this situation included high anxiety responses or symptoms of depression. like, the whole situation sounds like it fucking sucks. source: i am literally a therapist
I am holding out hope that Ryan Bergara and Shane Madej, the Ghoul Bois, also late of Buzzfeed but now out on their own, remain the unproblematic kings they seem to be.
it definitely helps that the watcher guys don’t really make their personal lives a deeply entangled part of their brand in the same way the try guys do, and their videos are more clearly For Entertainment with less of the same appeal to morality. but after watching this video i do think wanting Any content creator to be an “unproblematic king” shouldn’t be the thing to do haha like it’d be nice if they were as nice and cool as their on-screen personalities make them seem to be, but at the end of the day we don’t Really know them!
@@anongarcia I’ve never really watched them so I didn’t know how personal they got with their viewers. Someone being called “the married one” is odd to me but I thought it was some kind of strange viewer/channel joke. I’ve got faith in the Watcher guys but I sure as hell was surprised finding my own husband cheating and divorcing after 22 years! I truly thought we were going to make it. Then I had a car accident. If not for that probably would have. I’d probably still be shocked if a Watcher guy cheated though!
i really liked how experimental this was. i'm watching this from the battlefront of my own war with intrusive thoughts and this video made me think about things in a different way... hey, have you seen lola sebastian's video essay about anthony bourdain? it's a video about grieving for someone you've never met. in it she talks about like, aspirational wholesomeness is i think what she called it. i feel like it's a good compliment to the themes of this video
oh my god, the way you described OCD... i've so struggled to be able to describe what was happening and you put it so perfectly :) thank you, i love ur content!!!!
i absolutely adore your writing and editing style. it’s such a breath of fresh air. definitely always a pleasant surprise whenever you post no matter the subject. remember to take care of yourself ro
the story you told throughout the video was so impactful. congrats on 1 year, and thank you for sharing your voice. i don't have ocd but have felt the same way dealing with anxiety, and the way you express those thoughts is so beautiful.
this format SLAPPED, KILLED, SENT ME. Ro you will never not blow me out of the water and make me feel emotional and introspective watching your content. love ya ❤️ great takes as usual
my mind is always consistently blown by your content; your writing in both emotional senses (the connections to your own mental health & struggles with OCD were written beautifully; and the poetry at the end using the media files from Adobe Premiere was such a interesting and amazing twist) and comedically throughout your script. not to mention the asides. i really love it when creators elevate their art form like this, and you do it like no other!! 💛💛
you explain things in such a concise way with so much emotional intelligence ❤ you make me wanna work on my own art whenever i watch your content edit: my god the media error ending. why am i cryin in the club
As always, Ro's wordplay is flabbergasting and the personal thought 'sections(?)' sound like efforletless spoken word while telling a story. From the first part about the dog to the essence of being a character, each word is *chefs kiss*
The video style you’re leaning into is giving me indie horror mixed with a Jacob Gellar style video essay mixed with commentary chockablock with such specific comparisons and quips the late great Douglas Adams could approve, and sprinkled with a hearty dash of poetry. 15/10 would recommend in the group chat.
i was so ready to listen to another retelling of the same try guys story and click off halfway thru w/ no new info but this video was like ACTUALLY REALLY smart and cool. thanks, ro, for making a trendy topical video sopping wet with cool!
the way u talked abt ocd was so perfect i dont think ive ever heard someone describe it in a way i related to so much. it made me like full on cry lol. great video! ❤️❤️❤️
Rose, your videos are incredible. I sometimes have to postpone watching if I'm not in the mood for thinking; they always make me laugh and also make me really emotional. Thank you so much for your work
I’m so glad you talked about That part of having ocd. I rarely see it discussed anywhere because it is so. It’s so ugly. It’s something that’s nearly impossible to romanticize-but thank you for bringing light to it. I was diagnosed with OCD in kindergarten and I never told anyone about my intrusive thoughts until this year(I’m 21). It really warms my heart to hear that none of us OCD havers r struggling alone nor are we bad people for our fears. Thank you so much for that❤❤
your description of OCD was so visceral and real to me as someone who suffers from OCD- it really means a lot to see such a raw and accurate portrayal on the internet when so many are just wrong and alienating. Thank you so much
Thank you Ro. As a therapist, your words are exactly capturing the things I've been thinking. But with so much better clarity and articulation. You have such a gift!
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'men and failure', Huh that sounds just like my love life.
Nah, straight up unsubscribing for you reducing trauma to being upset and inconvenienced. That's an insult to everyone that has ever suffered an actual traumatic event.
“We have societal daddy issues” Rose you’re a genius for that
Seriously fucking accurate
Kendrick Lamar was saying something similar on his most recent album,, great minds think alike
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Literally had this thought the other day and got serious deja vu. It’s so true
"A gaping holes... in the public conciousness"
I'm so glad Ro addressed people claiming "trauma" as a word was being abused by the guys. A relationship breakdown, their livelihoods threatened, looming legal issues all as a sudden reality to the three of them? Any one of those things could be traumatic. They gained weight, lost weight, the patterns of their lives stopped. What good comes of dunking on them for saying they experienced a trauma? Men are allowed to be stressed, depressed and shocked.
Bruh the amount of trust issues someone could gain from just any friend for that long doing this is horrific let alone a BUSINESS partner and someone who's spouse was also your friend.
Same. My understanding is that trauma has much more to do with how the event impacts a person rather than being defined by the event alone.
People just don't understand what the term "trauma" means, they think it means a life altering negative effect but within psychology it really just refers to the effect from any negative event and each has different weight depending on what the event is and how the individual would respond. F.e. totaling your car would suck but it's most likely not gonna be as big a source of trauma as the unexpected passing of a loved one but they can still both be events that cause trauma. Similarly, the totaling of ones car will have a different impact depending on the person; someone who is well off who lives in a city with decent public transport might not be heavily impacted by such an event but for someone who depends on their car for mobility and doesn't have much money it could be a great source of trauma and stress.
There have even been attempts within psychology to measure how much trauma different events can cause an individual which is unsurprisingly a mixed bag since trauma is not exactly a measurable metric.
@handsoap thanks for putting this down in words. I’ve experienced lots of dismissal regarding the trauma I carry bc the inciting events haven’t seemed dramatic or horrifying enough compared to the popular understanding of what causes trauma.
Bc of this I dismissed my own feelings for most of my life and even hated myself for being fucked up but having no good reason for it.
I hope that deeper understanding of traumatic causes, effects, and healing practices will spread.
Or heartbroken. I know, I would have been in their place: he was their friend, they built a whole busines together, he introduced them to his wife and kids, they have a relationship with them too, etc.
The parallels you draw to your own life are really impactful and show tremendous growth in your writing. I always look forward to your videos because I know more and more that they’ll surprise me. With that said, I had no idea we could cheat on our wives and I look forward to trying that out! Thanks for the recommendation!
Joel, you are always giving me more reasons to like you.
Hi Joel, love your videos. Your kindness and commitment to your craft inspire me. Hope to be making my own shorts on RUclips soon
You are just awesome. That's all.
You really like RUclips, don’t you?
If you need a wife to cheat on you can borrow mine!
As someone with OCD who still struggles, here's a way to cope with intrusive thoughts that my therapist has given me to try (so far it's doing good): when you have an intrusive thought instead of approaching it with feelings of shame or fear, look at them inquisitively, then drop the thought.
"You could cut your hand with that knife right now and bleed everywhere." Yes that is dangerous; it is sharp. "My cat's leg is so small, I could break it if I wanted to. It trusts me so much, it wouldn't expect it." Yes, it is small, it's a small animal. Yes, it does trust you because you're a good owner.
Remember that you are not your intrusive thoughts, you are not that voice in your brain telling you awful things at the worst times. It is a disorder, it is possible to heal. Be kind to yourself and I hope this helps ❤️
Thank you, I'll use these tips from now on to deal with my intrusive thoughts.
I have always had intrusive thoughts like that. But idk what that means. Does it mean I have ocd even though i dont have other symptoms that interfere with my life?
@@ilikeseals1732 While I’m far from an expert (please take this with a healthy grain of salt), I think it’s possible to have overlapping symptoms without having the disorder itself. I think mental health content on platforms like tiktok make it easy for people to think they have certain disorders just by exhibiting some of the associated symptoms that turn out to be quite common, though I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here. Obviously the safest thing would be to consult a professional, though I know that’s not an option for everyone. Anyways I hope you have a good day :)
Holy fuck. You just made me realise the cat thing was an intrusive thought. I have ocd and I didn’t even realise that was an intrusive thought I though I was just cruel. Thank you.
@@ilikeseals1732 intrusive thoughts are fairly common, it’s when you obsess over them that it’s considered ocd. This is only from my limited knowledge though, I’m not an expert
She said talent, she said cinema, she said I'm gonna comment on the whole situation but I'm gonna make it an experience!!
I love her and her brain so much.... I'm happy I have ADHD solely for the days Ro posts new vids ❤️
“My being here - while physically by my lonesome - is proof that I’ve never been alone.” Profoundly inspiring. As both a writer and as a human animal.
This is when I started crying
As a fellow OCD sufferer especially one with rampant "bad/fake person" anxieties this hits on so many different levels, I'm so genuinely glad you're out there
Came expecting trashy drama, was drawn in by the gorgeous eye makeup, stayed for the eloquently put and exceptionally well spoken thoughts and experiences.
Love watching Ro’s slow transformation into Contrapoints or Philosophytube level production with her own personal twist.
Already said it before but I wanted to comment it here your script writing skills are incredible you wrote this like a whole tv show damn near with an A main story, B side stories, and a C story that you’ve been building up from the beginning it’s true art and I love this format of a video essay it’s really different and innovative the way that you tied your personal experiences back to Ned and the try guys and just how you tackled the entire situation with empathy and still keeping your same type of humor was phenomenal
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I entirely agree with this comment....the content you put out Ro is amazing and it keeps getting better??!?
I love their vicious, biting commentary.
@@petrify4814 it's her brand at this point and it's the best part about the beautiful productions she puts out ❤️
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Extremely insightful video Ro 💚 very cinematic and beautifully shot / scripted. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your experience
I hope Ro pins this
I hope Rose doesn’t pin this
@@665Sunshine why? It would be super helpful for people with photo sensitive epilepsy and migraines etc etc
Thank you so much!! I just had an episode yesterday since my epilepsy meds changed. I appreciate you.
@@SaintShion I'm really happy it helped prevent that happening again, I hope Ro considers incorporating the photosensitivy warning into the video next time.
As someone with OCD hearing about other people's experiences makes me feel so much less alone
Same!
same
Same :(
thank you for talking about OCD in such a visceral, gut punching way - I can finally show someone a clip that describes the experience in the way it feels.
Thank you Rose for deciding to try out You Tube. What a year it’s been! I’m old enough to be your mother but I chose not to have kids. But if I had, I would feel so damn lucky to have such an intelligent, sharp, masterful writer as my daughter. Someone whose sense of humor can’t help but peak through in dark times, that is so witty I have to slow down my watch speed to make sure I catch everything, and who expresses every aspect of being human in such a tangible way, that I feel and see the many comments of others and they understand more. Of themselves, of others but also make them question things. Today I learned even more about OCD, and what a truly personal hell it can be. You’ll probably hate (my poor punctuation and run on sentences but I already took my sleep gummies). I’m so happy you had such a supportive mom. You’re emotional intelligence, sense of curiosity (especially of the human condition), and the love I can almost feel radiating from you. Thank you for the education, laughs, sending me on Google searches for hours to learn more about something, to look at things differently. So happy one year to you ❤ and before you doubt me there are multi-millionaires on YT who still promote their Patreons and there’s no cool benefits. Even none at all. And I get about saving for the future, but when they’re decked out in head to toe Gucci…and then what you said about yours. That says a lot. Actually it was taking an action which is worth much more. You’re probably hating all of this plus the fact it’s a huuuge paragraph. Sorry. But thank you, Ro. So very much.
Your description of your experience with ocd was one of the most incredibly validating things I’ve ever heard. It brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for this.
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i was hoping someone else would say this. i feel the same way.
you need some kind of award for your trigger warnings like idk if you’ll see this but i just wanted to thank you for acknowledging depression, because i really do need that sometimes and this is the first time ive seen it addressed. idk it just really meant a lot to me
I feel this so much.... it's outstanding how she can create this immersive experience with her writing yet still preparing us for what's coming...I feel safe knowing what's gonna be discussed and to what extent.... because yes descriptions of mental health issues do trigger us the ppl suffering from them
The ONLY person's opinion who I was desperate to hear on this whole situation, so glad she posted!!
I want to hear the camel from the cigarette commercials to talk abt it
This! As well as kennie JD
@@roramdin wise choice
@@keychains5806 bro I love Kennie!!
@@roramdin I want to watch you talk to the camel from the cigarette commercial
That break did you good, gyal. You really level up on this one 🙌🏾 I'm inspired
Right ???? More of the good stuff
Two legends colliding we love to see it
This is the first video I've seen from this creator, and seeing you here is a point in her favour.
You have one of the best explanations of what ocd is like for me. Its not about cleanliness not at least in the physical form. Its an issue of viewing yourself as clean, clean of all the intrusive thoughts, that you aren't the person your brain is yelling at you that you are. You can feel so trapped in it all just to feel clean, feel pure and like yourself again.
Ro reaches into the figurative throat of my psyche to figure out exactly which topic I want to hear her talk about and then emerges and presents it to me while shaking violently like a damaged chihuahua. Very excited!
"We've avoided the full Lewinski of it all" As someone who remembers the 90s, I'm so glad that we're getting to a point where you don't hear as much of women being painted as a 'homewrecker' while the behavior of a man in a position of power is practically shrugged off.
Holy Fuck I couldn’t imagine how hard it is to struggle with moral scrupulosity and be a content creator. You’re very brave for that and it’s inspiring since I struggle with the same.
I have especially been struggling recently so I appreciate this solidarity
i didn’t know this was what it’s called. it’s nice to have a more specific term
i think you hit the nail on the head when it comes to the try guys' "nice boys" branding, like there's this idea that white guys who choose not to punch down in their humor, who are "unproblematic" or "wholesome," are somehow MORE worthy of praise than non-white non-men who wouldn't have that same power to punch down in the first place. i was telling my friend the other day that people's obsession with figures like the try guys or the mcelroys on the basis of them seeming to be decent men is both an insultingly low bar and an impossibly high standard
Also why is no one talking about them already knowing about this? A month ago people were telling about situations where Ned tried hitting on them in front of the other guys. It's weird.
Race isn’t the only axis of oppression, Dave chapelle did use his power and privelige to punch down at trans peoople
@@RapidBlindfolds I think what they were getting at is that no one is praising black comedians as "unproblematic faves" or "wholesome" for not being transphobic, that level of praise is usually only reserved for white men. This is not to say that other marginalised people cant punch down of discriminate against other marginalised people, only that them doing the bare minimum is never used as a selling point or praise worthy
@@mibbles2371 that totally makes sense actually, point taken
@@mibbles2371 thanks so much! i was about to clarify but you put it better than i could have.
this is the type of video that needs to be watched on a big screen.
also, thank you for talking about ocd. i was home bound for about a year due to ocd, one of the darkest times in my life. i had a fear of lines on the ground starting as cracks in asphalt but gradually turning to all surfaces with lines: wood, linoleum, painted lines, even some carpets weren’t “safe.” i couldn’t go anywhere. my whole school had linoleum flooring except for guidance so of course i spent all my time there. i was sent halfway across the country to residential treatment after i stopped going to school. it’s hard for me to think about that experience to this day, but i’ve improved so much. ocd is incredibly debilitating and nearly ruined my life before i was sent to treatment. thank you for talking about it.
Thank you for the accurate portrayal of obsessive compulsive disorder. Your editing mimics intrusive thoughts. It was so weird to watch, like staring into a mirror. I relapsed in 2020 and 2021, too. It’s a lonely illness.
i feel you. it's a lonely illness and it makes you feel alone in the world, doubting of everyone around me in my case and such. but trust me it WILL get better. just gotta be patient..
i relapsed in 2020-2021 too, got really bad for a while. i wasn't very lonely in the technical sense but it really is an illness that makes you feel alone.
Something interesting that I've noticed is how for many fans/onlookers (myself included, a little) are reaching further into this purity culture for comfort, by raising the other remaining try guys yet further on pedestals of morality. the try guys have done a brilliant job PR-ing themselves out of this, and we want to have their morals and integrity reaffirmed to us after the shock of Ned's 'betrayal'. praise has been lavished on these men for doing the decent thing, for firing him, for looking after their employee, and for expressing emotions. don't get me wrong, i genuinely like the try guys and who they present themselves to be, but it is a little laughable how easy it is to become god-like in twitter's eyes for following the basic HR guidelines when you're a man in a position of power.
the way you switch from incredibly quick and clever comedy to well spoken, deeper spoken word is incredible every time
the part where you talk about being 14 and all the thoughts you had made me burst out sobbing because i still, at age 22, deal with thoughts like this and it helped reassure me, just a little, that maybe i'm not as evil as i think i am. you've seriously become my favorite creator and i love everything you put out, thank you ro
"We are giving him an elevated social position through the transformation of his wife from person to adoration personified." You're so right for saying that.
The "I'm a dog chasing my own tail" line was like a punch in the gut. Such a great video
People fear what they don't understand and react by panicking and lashing out...like wow the analogy is.. wow ...
“Run me my check, cracker!” Lmaoooo.
Also, I’m in the process of getting diagnosed with OCD and your experiences with intrusive thoughts were so painfully relatable. I hate that you went through that, but it’s nice to know I’m not alone. Thank you for sharing. ❤️
the whole try guy scandal hurts more than any other cheating scandal to me bc it was with an employee! a big part of the Try Guys is that they bring in their staff into the videos, we see BTS of everyone, get videos with the staff and they get to bring their personality onto our screens. we KNOW Ned's wife. we KNOW Ned's kids. (in the way that an audience can know anyone) To me, it's not just that Ned was a wife guy. Ned made it his brand, he brought his family in and tied them to his fame. it's not like what SNL made it out to be: it's not Beyonce and Jay-Z, it's Monica and Bill Clinton. Miles said it best when he asked if people thought that the Bill Clinton scandal was just about cheating. it's more than that. it's the legal ramifications of it all, the betrayal, the TRAUMA! God, I know too much about them as I've been watching them since I was a teen, since the BuzzFeed days. But Eugene is a child of divorce, the guys were all friends with the wife, and the wife was in many videos and projects with the guys. There's no way to detanlge any of this. To know that Ned would feel so comfortable in himself that he'd go out on dates with someone who is obviously not his wife and even more obviously his supordinate, shows that they'd been doing it for a while. Bc why would you go to a sold out Harry Styles concert??
But anyway, your talk about OCD is very validating and eye opening. I don't have OCD myself, but ADHD. I didn't end up getting help until I tried to really hurt myself bc my mom didn't really understand the seriousness of my depression when I went to her at 14. amazing video nonetheless, and a great addition to the discourse.
I got a 90% on that assignment and I now know what a turnspit dog is. Thanks!
google it GOOFY
You describe OCD in a better way than anyone else. We talk about the symptoms but never the effects. I remember when I got therapy and medication I realized I didn’t know who I was because I had been so convinced I was those thoughts. Discovering that hollow shell of myself and building my own identity inside it was one of the best experiences of my life because I was free to do it for the first time
Ro! Your videos inspire me to be creative in everything I do, and for simply existing, thank you for such articulate & beautiful work 🫶🏾
i love the editing in this video it was super cool and then the way you tied everything to the first line of the video blew my mind.also the rose asides were rlly fun. best 40 mins I've spent today
the representation of OCD.
thank you. thank you so much.
I've rarely heard thoughts laid out how I usually do, and it's comforting asf
This isn't content, this is art.
Reminds me a bit of contra points, but very distinct.
@@ladyeowyn42 yes same aura of majestic quality but make it unique too
its a wonderful blend of both!!!
as someone with ocd, this is... important to me. thank you
i know how terrifying living with ocd is it literally is living your worst fear without end it can follow you in your sleep and attaches it self to anything and everything it will make triggers from nothing. thank you for sharing
This has nothing to do with the video, but watching Ro make videos is inspiring to me. It's been hard just being trans and seeing someone have fun and give relatable commentary just makes me think it does get better. Also woo sponsor
your videos feel more and more like art every time. there's something you've put to words, sounds, visuals that ive felt deeply and still cannot find a way express... thank you for the heartfelt and rough honesty about mental health
Agreed! This is an art piece- incredible, engaging, and shifts the audience into a lense and mindset that is transcendent in many ways.
You videos are always so unbelievably cinematic and grandiose, while feeling somehow comforting despite following usually upsetting topics. I adore when you upload since I know it’ll be just mindblowing, and ofc effortlessly witty. Congrats on one year❤️
the introductory monologue was probably the hardest intro to a video i've ever experienced. beautiful video i am in awe
I think Zach's statement was really really honest and genuine and indicated deep emotional intelligence and actual understanding of the audience.
I’m not sure that Alex was a victim, but I’m also not sure she was a perpetrator. I know she was Ariel’s friend so if she was with him enthusiastically, then she did do a fucked up thing in that she stabbed her friend in the back. According to her ex-fiancé, she gaslit him bad and emotionally abused him, but as far as a power imbalance, that would fall squarely on Ned.
as someone else with ocd the second i saw the beginning of the first fire-aside i knew what was coming. i understand exactly what you're talking about, and i'm so glad to hear someone else talking about it in such a real and visceral way.
You did such a good job of describing how and why it's so disappointing when a "good guy" public figure does something shitty. I can fully admit that I have latched onto certain male creators and celebrities who seem to share my values, sometimes to the point of putting them up on a pedestal, which I know is always a bad idea. I also have OCD and a lot of my obsessive thoughts are related to misogyny in media, so I know how it feels to constantly be trying to avoid triggers in a world that seems determined to mess you up, and I definitely know how it feels to hope and pray that men can be better, even when you are repeatedly shown that they can't. Back in the first half of the 2010s, I could barely use social media - especially youtube, the cesspool - because of how terrible the humor was and how disgusting men acted. When the tides finally started to change and guys like Drew Gooden, Danny Gonzales, and various leftubers became really popular, I finally felt like it was safe for me to enjoy parts of the internet again. These types of guys hold a special place in my heart, simply because they made a career being funny on the internet without making me literally want to off myself. I was never attached to the Try Guys, I only have a surface level knowledge of who they are and what they do, but I still completely sympathize with anyone who feels crushed by recent events. If I ever found out that hbomberguy is a sex offender or D'Angelo Wallace kicks dogs for fun or something nuts like that, I would be devastated.
it kinda feels sad writing this but the way you talked about having ocd is one of the most relatable experiences of ocd i’ve heard from someone but that’s just my personal experience ik people experience ocd in many other ways
Thank you for talking about OCD. I felt something crack open in my chest when you described your fears and anxieties relating to being “good and pure” and the constant fear of harming others. I’ve been diagnosed with and experienced symptoms of a bunch of different disorders but my extended OCD breakdown was one of the worst and one I was ill prepared for. I love your writing and sense of pacing and production and look forward to every upload!! Take care and have a wonderful day :)
I have my 100k RUclips thing hung up and it gives me anxiety whenever I look at it. I think i may take out the Play button and use the frame for a picture of a really chubby ferret.
watching your videos often makes me feel more seen than i do in a lot of other contexts. i was kicked out recently and have been moving around couch surfing, in hotels, and more recently in a shelter before i landed in transitional housing. im 18 and autustic and have intense intrusive thoughts every time i am alone, and now that im living alone its only amplified. i slept all of today to get away from them because i had no other plans and didnt want to confront them. theres comfort in hearing that i am not alone, even if it is through some sort of (inevitable) parasocial relationship. also this video really did sum up everything ive been thinking about the situation pretty well. good video loved it amazing :]
“i’m on six competing medications and none of them are winning and i’m losing”
And when the world needed her most, she returned
The way you write about OCD is so fucking visceral. I've never felt my experience with OCD so well described. Love your videos!
the experimenting definitely paid off, I am absolutely blown away by this masterpiece
Your aside on OCD and especially the part about feeling like a sexual deviant really resonated with me, to the point that I'm shaking. I don't have the words but thank you for your vulnerability and honesty. It helped me
thank chrust you addressed the joint custody joke i thought i was hallucinating
real talk though my dad also died when i was little and he definitely fell victim to patriarcal expectations for christian men. as a result my relationship with masculinity has become dodgy, to say the least. men in media i looked up to progressively letting me down leaves me disillusioned and wondering what version of myself will do the least amount of damage.
It’s interesting to see how SNL tried to frame it as a matter to be brushed off in context of their history of abuse allegations and similar “consensual workplace relationships”. Also you improve with every video, this one scratched my brain in a perfect way and thank you for being vulnerable and sharing those personal anecdotes with us.
haven’t watched the video but i can feel it’s a banger already
edit: god DAMN i was right
Ned said he has friends that are writers at SNL, so that explains a bit why the show even chose to showcase this sketch
the sections about ocd and intrusive thoughts were some of the best things ive ever heard as someone who struggles with those same kind of intrusive thoughts, thank you ro it was a wonderful video!!!
I don’t have OCD, but I have anxiety with intrusive thoughts (which I thought were real for a while) and and a heightened sense of guilt, the section where you talked about your personal experiences really spoke to me, great video!
This is the first time I’ve ever heard the kind of OCD I struggle with described in the same way I’ve experienced IT. You and I are truly not alone 💙 this is such a beautiful and fantastic video - thank you
for the first 18 or so years of my life, i was tormented by the feeling that i didnt really have emotions, and i had simply learned how to mimic them from my parents and and TV. i feared that if i were put to the test by something serious, like the inevitable death of one of my grandparents, my programming would fail and i would be unable to cry at the funeral.
Perfection! I watched your john mulaney video when the scandal first broke to sooth the eldrich horror sized hole in my heart and now I have this!
i appreciate you mentioning the ‘trauma’ conversation. gatekeeping trauma is *cringe* and *boomer* mentality (aka, prevents people from being able to heal, connect with others, and redirect patterns of harm to themselves and others). you don’t need to have full blown PTSD for something to be traumatic to you. i also wouldn’t be surprised if one or all of the try guys’ reaction to this situation included high anxiety responses or symptoms of depression. like, the whole situation sounds like it fucking sucks.
source: i am literally a therapist
you've truly outdone yourself :) what a treat
(I love the JX-08 btw)
I am holding out hope that Ryan Bergara and Shane Madej, the Ghoul Bois, also late of Buzzfeed but now out on their own, remain the unproblematic kings they seem to be.
Don’t forget about Steven! He’s now the 🤨
Married one. Please someone tell me what’s the point of bold text options when they work sometimes or completely the words you want in BOLD.
it definitely helps that the watcher guys don’t really make their personal lives a deeply entangled part of their brand in the same way the try guys do, and their videos are more clearly For Entertainment with less of the same appeal to morality. but after watching this video i do think wanting Any content creator to be an “unproblematic king” shouldn’t be the thing to do haha like it’d be nice if they were as nice and cool as their on-screen personalities make them seem to be, but at the end of the day we don’t Really know them!
@@anongarcia I’ve never really watched them so I didn’t know how personal they got with their viewers. Someone being called “the married one” is odd to me but I thought it was some kind of strange viewer/channel joke. I’ve got faith in the Watcher guys but I sure as hell was surprised finding my own husband cheating and divorcing after 22 years! I truly thought we were going to make it. Then I had a car accident. If not for that probably would have. I’d probably still be shocked if a Watcher guy cheated though!
calling them "unproblematic kings" kinda feeds into the problem, don't you think?
You and CJ the X are making me work really hard to be content literate and I love it.
damn, just started the video and the part about why a dog chases it's tail hit hard... ro's amazing writing as always
That beachside cliff metaphor made me open my eyes, like and comment
i really liked how experimental this was. i'm watching this from the battlefront of my own war with intrusive thoughts and this video made me think about things in a different way...
hey, have you seen lola sebastian's video essay about anthony bourdain? it's a video about grieving for someone you've never met. in it she talks about like, aspirational wholesomeness is i think what she called it. i feel like it's a good compliment to the themes of this video
oh my god, the way you described OCD... i've so struggled to be able to describe what was happening and you put it so perfectly :) thank you, i love ur content!!!!
i absolutely adore your writing and editing style. it’s such a breath of fresh air. definitely always a pleasant surprise whenever you post no matter the subject. remember to take care of yourself ro
the story you told throughout the video was so impactful. congrats on 1 year, and thank you for sharing your voice. i don't have ocd but have felt the same way dealing with anxiety, and the way you express those thoughts is so beautiful.
really liked this vid! personally had to skip a few parts (ocd rough times rn lol) but i really love how you can tell so many stories in one medium
this format SLAPPED, KILLED, SENT ME. Ro you will never not blow me out of the water and make me feel emotional and introspective watching your content. love ya ❤️ great takes as usual
my mind is always consistently blown by your content; your writing in both emotional senses (the connections to your own mental health & struggles with OCD were written beautifully; and the poetry at the end using the media files from Adobe Premiere was such a interesting and amazing twist) and comedically throughout your script. not to mention the asides. i really love it when creators elevate their art form like this, and you do it like no other!! 💛💛
the storytelling. the wife guy trope analysis. the imagery. all really thoughtful and I enjoyed it.
you explain things in such a concise way with so much emotional intelligence ❤ you make me wanna work on my own art whenever i watch your content
edit: my god the media error ending. why am i cryin in the club
"The things I construct aren't always there to hurt me" thank you, Ro ❤️
As always, Ro's wordplay is flabbergasting and the personal thought 'sections(?)' sound like efforletless spoken word while telling a story.
From the first part about the dog to the essence of being a character, each word is *chefs kiss*
The video style you’re leaning into is giving me indie horror mixed with a Jacob Gellar style video essay mixed with commentary chockablock with such specific comparisons and quips the late great Douglas Adams could approve, and sprinkled with a hearty dash of poetry. 15/10 would recommend in the group chat.
please more of this!! I love this style of videos, it's so unique and beautiful. art.
i was so ready to listen to another retelling of the same try guys story and click off halfway thru w/ no new info but this video was like ACTUALLY REALLY smart and cool. thanks, ro, for making a trendy topical video sopping wet with cool!
the way u talked abt ocd was so perfect i dont think ive ever heard someone describe it in a way i related to so much. it made me like full on cry lol. great video! ❤️❤️❤️
Rose, your videos are incredible. I sometimes have to postpone watching if I'm not in the mood for thinking; they always make me laugh and also make me really emotional. Thank you so much for your work
You are such a talented writer and the only take on this I care to watch I’m so happy to see u post again 🫶
I’m so glad you talked about That part of having ocd. I rarely see it discussed anywhere because it is so. It’s so ugly. It’s something that’s nearly impossible to romanticize-but thank you for bringing light to it. I was diagnosed with OCD in kindergarten and I never told anyone about my intrusive thoughts until this year(I’m 21). It really warms my heart to hear that none of us OCD havers r struggling alone nor are we bad people for our fears. Thank you so much for that❤❤
for the next 40 mins, only this matters
truth.
rose i think my favorite part of these videos is that you usually have a friend just hanging out with you, it’s so sweet
i usually skip sponsors on youtube vids but i accidentally watched through this whole one just cause Ro made it actually entertaining
I keep saying to myself that I'm over the Ned situation, but every time a new video comes out about it I can't help but be invested
your description of OCD was so visceral and real to me as someone who suffers from OCD- it really means a lot to see such a raw and accurate portrayal on the internet when so many are just wrong and alienating. Thank you so much
This intro is literal poetry
Thank you Ro. As a therapist, your words are exactly capturing the things I've been thinking. But with so much better clarity and articulation. You have such a gift!
love you as always ro, thank you for the fresh content : )
I LOVE your editing style. it feels like a documentary and a music video at the same time. You speak so eloquently and it's very easy to follow