From now on, I am going to imagine Ian traveling the world like a map from Indiana Jones: jumping from plane, train, and ships with a line moving across the map.
This is probably a very strange observation, but I noticed the green book in the back has the norwegian coat of arms on it. So I paused the video when the camera angle changed to the sights, and I managed to make out the text which I translates to: "Firearms used by the military since 1837". I googled the text and I found the book which I am now ordering online, because it actually looks very interesting. Probably very uninteresting to everyone else but me, but I still had to share it. Great video by the way ;)
That is a nice book, I have it myself. This book is well known among gun enthusiasts in Norway. I recommend it to everyone. But how on earth did you spot that book in this video? You must eat a lot off carrots.
and he sayeth...'One FG42 is not enough to go around'...and lo...Gun Jesus brought forth another FG42 saying 'Behold... I bring another and now the smiles of my disciples go from ear to ear' and the Lord was pleased.
i love how we are at the point of bringing in a standard configuration first pattern FG42 just for reference. this channel has come a long way, congrats Ian!
Thank you so much Ian for the daily dose of firearms history and knowledge. So cool that you are able to take a look at weapons of this rarity and bring them to us. I feel like I should put a similar comment on all of your videos because for years now, every day I get home from work there is a Forgotten Weapons video waiting for me. Daily content with quality as high as this is incredibly hard to come by yet you are able to provide this for us consistently. I can't thank you enough really.
Malta hands out EU membership if you give them enough money, so it's understandable why valuable things might find their way there when people with that kind of money are drawn to it.
@@rokker333 It looks awkward and bad wrist angles, but it would possibly make it better for jumping?? Even if it did the field trials would show ergonomics is worth an extremely small amount of jump efficiency.
So I live just down the street from the Rheinmetal headquarters .. to think that this preproduction gun was probably seen by Goering, stored very near to me and is now a holy grail to many is a bit creepy.
I have always wondered about the pistol grip as, compared to others, it is a rather odd angle. Then while watching this video I realised that is about where you would hold it if it had a stock as with a rifle. So the question is why would you do that? It's not like pistol grips were unknown. It seems an odd thing to do.
A reason why they did the grip like that might also be, that the danger of it getting stuck on the uniform or other equipment during airborne operations might be less than a more straight and protruding type of grip.
You've mentioned Heinrich Krieghoff in several videos. I would like to mention that Krieghoff also made Lugers-P08's, that today are considered very rare. While researching a Krieghoff P08 one day, it turned out to be a Luftwaffe piece; as almost all Krieghoff P08's are. I learned the Luftwaffe gave preference to Krieghoff for contracts so the FG42 is no surprise, even though Rheinmetall developed it. The surprise I learned was that the principal share holder in Krieghoff was none other than Herman Goering, head of the Luftwaffe.
Very cool. Thanks to the owner for letting Ian review it for us. Makes me wonder how many other unique and interesting weapons are out there in private collections never to be seen. Ian if you get down to Texas you should contact the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco. They have a large collection of firearms from both criminals and cops. Many Bonnie and Clydes weapons are there. Lot of interesting history. If they would let you take a look it would be neat.
May 6th 2017 RIA sold the production model for $241,000. I would believe that this one in the video would be worth more because of its rarity. Such as the Sniper Machine Gun version which sold for $299,000 on Sept 12 2014.
A normal production FG42 goes for ~250,000$ afaik, and a even rarer pre-production variant would probably be even more expensive. We can conclude that in there are well over 500,000$ of guns in this video. I don't know whether you can easily import them to the US, so the prices might be quite different.
Well all the prices on the fg 42s are for transferrable rifles in the US. I would love to know for how much it goes on the collector market outside the us?
@@pjansen2010 Not this one, it's a special one. It's the last one remaining out of 20 pre-production guns. The owner could basically name whatever price he wants.
@@ianperry4768 I would get up on the catwalk and let em stack up in front of me in a fatal funnel, set the front sight post on their chin and just let that shit rock. Transition to the mg42 when the mag went dry. Zombie holocaust.
Malta?! So cool! What are ya doing over there? You should try and do a metal detector series throughout Europe, specifically Ost Deutschland. There's so much stuff from WW2 (and 1) laying around under the dirt. Even whole stores of weapons were just buried. It'd be so cool to see what you might discover. I'd watch the shit out of that.
@@rokker333 lol. I'm old school, can't keep up with all this new fangled tech. I actually have been in cars with 8 tracks in them and I actually miss cassette tapes.
@@seandwyer4061 Ignoring the legality of prodcasting private radio signal, you may grab a low power 3.5mm input radio transmitter. Really handy to just prodcast what's playing on your phone within a few meter radius circle, than tune your car radio to the frequency.
A fine anekdote, i took my kids to the Danish war museum some time ago, and when we came to the ww2 section I ended up acting as a kind of guide for the people there, being able to tell them the story of German weapons, and dating kar98 based on your videos. Cool, your videos enabled me to be a nerdy hero to my kids :)
Don't know if Ian or anyone else that held that type of FG-42, but has anyone held/shouldered this version with the pistol grip? How does it feel to other pistol grip designs?
A prototype FG-42 out of Rheinmetall's own collection, which was probably demonstrated infront of Göring in unaltered state... I dare not imagine the prices to which this would climb up to if it ever got auctioned
Now you said that they changed the grip angle, but comparing the two, it didn't look all that different. But man, you're bringing out the unicorns. I still wonder why no one ever made a modernized version of this.
If it's part of a trials batch and so mismatched, would that be from the testing? More destructive testing to make sure it just plain works? At least that's what my first thoughts are.
That grip angle though... the whole time I'm looking at it I just want to FOLD. THE. DAMN. THING. DOWN. into a normal angle. I'm sure it works fine but damn it's funky looking
Rheinmetall also made the panzer 1 tank, which, I believe, stopped production (at least with rheinmetall) around the time they produced the first few FG-42 prototypes. They believed that weapons were better for their bottom line.
A prototype version of the mythical FG-42, on top of being a gun handled by a historic figure, aaaaaaand was technically in one of the greatest WWII movies of history. How much does this thing cost again??
Fun fact: That green book in the background is titled "Firearms used by the [Finnish] Defense Forces after 1859" in Swedish. Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan! \o/
Honestly it's a real shame the FG-42 wasn't developed further. I really think the Germany where onto something really good. Also that's a lot of money but it's worth every penny I think, one of the few firearms where no amount of money could describe how cool the firearm is.
Kuddlesworth NA well, they did. The Sturmgewehr was it. The FG was great, but it’s a really frail rifle. Dropping them, tossing them, and not maintaining is a terrible idea. They’re renowned for accuracy, lightweight, and being a fragile gun. The later STG, and CETME rifles are a continuation of the concept.
might've decided it would be a good idea to add that as an option in a pinch. Instead of rearming a magazine round for round, you'd rearm 5 shots a piece.
When you said that, I started thinking that there's so many similarities to the Johnson LMG that its astounding that they were developed separately (in parts, ideas, and operation [recoil absorption in idea] , etc.).
*Casually pulls out 2nd FG-42 for comparison purposes*
They are owned by the same person. I actually know the guy.
@@cortex383 of course you do. It's actually me.
Gun Jeebus' version of loaves and fishes
@@maximilianfranz2158 So you are my new friend then? I joke...but seriously, what are you doing for the weekend?
@@Jesses001 nothing special. Meeting friends and maybe some plinking with my Feinwerkbau 150.
As Ian calmly handles about $1000000.00 worth of guns. "Here let me grab the shooter grade FG for comparason".
My jaw fell to the floor when he casually pulled over an original production for comparison
From now on, I am going to imagine Ian traveling the world like a map from Indiana Jones: jumping from plane, train, and ships with a line moving across the map.
You won
That makes Ian even more awesome
Loved that in the movies by the way
Don't forget the globetrotting, adventurous music playing in the background.
@@MosoKaiser I freakin love these movies
jmullner76, Yes but instead of wearing Indy's hat and carrying a whip he would be wearing his smoking jacket and carrying a glass of scotch. 🤣
@@paulshayter1113 , smoking jacket yet, but drinking something French instead.
This is probably a very strange observation, but I noticed the green book in the back has the norwegian coat of arms on it. So I paused the video when the camera angle changed to the sights, and I managed to make out the text which I translates to: "Firearms used by the military since 1837". I googled the text and I found the book which I am now ordering online, because it actually looks very interesting. Probably very uninteresting to everyone else but me, but I still had to share it. Great video by the way ;)
How the hell did you look so carefully to notice that obscure book wtf
gun jesus _is_ the way and the light
@@williamchamberlain2263 (although occasionally the light is actually the muzzle flash)
That is a nice book, I have it myself. This book is well known among gun enthusiasts in Norway. I recommend it to everyone.
But how on earth did you spot that book in this video? You must eat a lot off carrots.
@@WhattAreYouSaying carrots and 1080p video quality
I just love that fact that Ian can grab another FG-42 merely to illustrate a minor difference in sights. "And here's one I found lying around earlier"
and he sayeth...'One FG42 is not enough to go around'...and lo...Gun Jesus brought forth another FG42 saying 'Behold... I bring another and now the smiles of my disciples go from ear to ear' and the Lord was pleased.
Preproduction Version of what is pretty much a unicorn gun? Yes please!
And then he casually pulled out another one
Is that a California compliant pistol grip
The germans were ahead of their time....
Germany had plans to invade the US. (Laughs in hindsight) They wanted to comply to gun laws in all states...
i love how we are at the point of bringing in a standard configuration first pattern FG42 just for reference. this channel has come a long way, congrats Ian!
I WAS going to bed, but that's gonna have to wait because Jesus is dropping some knowledge.
Correction *gun jesus*
This is grade-A Unobtanium, Right here!
That's rarer than rarortanium.
Thank you so much Ian for the daily dose of firearms history and knowledge. So cool that you are able to take a look at weapons of this rarity and bring them to us. I feel like I should put a similar comment on all of your videos because for years now, every day I get home from work there is a Forgotten Weapons video waiting for me. Daily content with quality as high as this is incredibly hard to come by yet you are able to provide this for us consistently. I can't thank you enough really.
I'm a simple man. I see FG-42, I drop my pants.
Ready for Gun Jesus to drop a warm, fresh knowledge load all on my face
@@luciusvorenus3568
That sounds... Manly af.
Pls leave my fg42 alone before I call the authorities
Poor FG-42...
even when speaking about a FG 42, Ian manages to find a french connection. (HONHONHON intensifies)
Honhonhon xD
Did he? I must have missed the drug investigations and car chases in the video 😅
Why are the maltese hiding all that good shit?
Knights templar loominaty shit, probably.
Lot of very rich, old money, on Malta.
Protection from liberals
@@GodofWhoopass But after the Templar Order was outlawed, their assets were given to the Hospitallers ;)
Malta hands out EU membership if you give them enough money, so it's understandable why valuable things might find their way there when people with that kind of money are drawn to it.
A paratrooper rifle. I like the hand grip design.
That grip makes me think of CA compliant AR-15's.
@@TJWDawg kinda like that
@@TJWDawg I was thinking the same thing.
@@rokker333 It looks awkward and bad wrist angles, but it would possibly make it better for jumping?? Even if it did the field trials would show ergonomics is worth an extremely small amount of jump efficiency.
It doesn't look like I could reach the trigger while wrapping my thumb around it anywhere. Maybe with my 2nd finger
Paul Harrell, forgotten weapons, and in range are my favorite channel's.
MICULIC ? i got name wrong perhaps. american guy. pro shooter.
That's a beautiful weapon and very interesting information on the pre-production testing of this unusual weapon. Thanks.
I really like this type with the angled handgrip.
But my god the priceless rifles he gets to see in person.
Small point, wehrmacht refers to the entire German armed forces the army specifically was the Heer, as in Deutsches Heer.
So I live just down the street from the Rheinmetal headquarters .. to think that this preproduction gun was probably seen by Goering, stored very near to me and is now a holy grail to many is a bit creepy.
I have always wondered about the pistol grip as, compared to others, it is a rather odd angle. Then while watching this video I realised that is about where you would hold it if it had a stock as with a rifle. So the question is why would you do that? It's not like pistol grips were unknown. It seems an odd thing to do.
I suspect it was to duplicate the grip angle of a K98k.
smaller profile, perhaps?
Big Blue maybe they had to make it california complaint
A reason why they did the grip like that might also be, that the danger of it getting stuck on the uniform or other equipment during airborne operations might be less than a more straight and protruding type of grip.
@@ForgottenWeapons But does it line-up like a K98k would? I feel like the bore axis would be too high.
You've mentioned Heinrich Krieghoff in several videos. I would like to mention that Krieghoff also made Lugers-P08's, that today are considered very rare. While researching a Krieghoff P08 one day, it turned out to be a Luftwaffe piece; as almost all Krieghoff P08's are. I learned the Luftwaffe gave preference to Krieghoff for contracts so the FG42 is no surprise, even though Rheinmetall developed it. The surprise I learned was that the principal share holder in Krieghoff was none other than Herman Goering, head of the Luftwaffe.
Malta must be a real treasure box of forgotten and very special weapons!
Malta is the fucking paradise of exotic guns
Omg, it's like a double horned unicorn.
... an antelope?
That's called a bicorn and they are a thing, mythologically speaking.
Very cool. Thanks to the owner for letting Ian review it for us.
Makes me wonder how many other unique and interesting weapons are out there in private collections never to be seen.
Ian if you get down to Texas you should contact the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco.
They have a large collection of firearms from both criminals and cops. Many Bonnie and Clydes weapons are there.
Lot of interesting history. If they would let you take a look it would be neat.
Ian may be the luckiest gunnie alive. Very cool job on this one... What a great find! Much obliged to the gun owner!
No. He's worked very hard to get where he is. It wasn't "luck."
interesting, just found out about rheinmetall and they still exist today as a public company ! Thank you for the video
Everytime when i think "Ha! What else do you want to show us?!", he comes up with a PRE PRODUCTION FG 42 FUCK ME DEAD MATE
Anyone know an estimated value for this ?
... Edit: I'm now at the end of the video and I learn it's the only one remaining :)
May 6th 2017 RIA sold the production model for $241,000. I would believe that this one in the video would be worth more because of its rarity. Such as the Sniper Machine Gun version which sold for $299,000 on Sept 12 2014.
A normal production FG42 goes for ~250,000$ afaik, and a even rarer pre-production variant would probably be even more expensive. We can conclude that in there are well over 500,000$ of guns in this video. I don't know whether you can easily import them to the US, so the prices might be quite different.
Well all the prices on the fg 42s are for transferrable rifles in the US. I would love to know for how much it goes on the collector market outside the us?
@@pjansen2010 Not this one, it's a special one. It's the last one remaining out of 20 pre-production guns. The owner could basically name whatever price he wants.
200,000-600,000 I would think. Dollars. But really the owner could ask for whatever money he wanted and he would probably get it.
You have no idea how happy I am to see this FG42 (which is my fav) posted on my brithday! Thanks Ian! :)
I've killed a shit load of zombies with this thing.
Sweet jesus FG-42 + MG-42 = Mothers Recipe for a group of Nazi Zombies.
@@ianperry4768
I would get up on the catwalk and let em stack up in front of me in a fatal funnel, set the front sight post on their chin and just let that shit rock. Transition to the mg42 when the mag went dry. Zombie holocaust.
Me too. Especially with the Packed one.
Malta?! So cool! What are ya doing over there? You should try and do a metal detector series throughout Europe, specifically Ost Deutschland. There's so much stuff from WW2 (and 1) laying around under the dirt. Even whole stores of weapons were just buried. It'd be so cool to see what you might discover. I'd watch the shit out of that.
Look at that grip angle! Amzing rifle tho, so beautiful
dangit, Ian, you keep convincing me I need to start saving up for that SMG FG42 replica!
They didnt have the two flaps yet with which you can close the magazine holder.
But what an awesome gun! So cool to see a preproduction gun!
Who else has all the audio of Ian's videos recorded so they can listen to them while driving in their car?
@@rokker333 lol. I'm old school, can't keep up with all this new fangled tech. I actually have been in cars with 8 tracks in them and I actually miss cassette tapes.
@@seandwyer4061 Ignoring the legality of prodcasting private radio signal, you may grab a low power 3.5mm input radio transmitter. Really handy to just prodcast what's playing on your phone within a few meter radius circle, than tune your car radio to the frequency.
@@rokker333 And they all suck because YT audio is in OGG Vorbis or AAC and lossy-lossy transcoding is a crime against nature.
Thank you , Ian .
I love when Ian is in Malta 🇲🇹 it’s the best...!!!
Every time I see a FG42 It always reminds me of the Swiss STGW 57.
@@amazed2341 I know but STGW 57 are far more common and easier to get than the FG-42.
UUUUH, what a unicorn!
A fine anekdote, i took my kids to the Danish war museum some time ago, and when we came to the ww2 section I ended up acting as a kind of guide for the people there, being able to tell them the story of German weapons, and dating kar98 based on your videos. Cool, your videos enabled me to be a nerdy hero to my kids :)
Don't know if Ian or anyone else that held that type of FG-42, but has anyone held/shouldered this version with the pistol grip? How does it feel to other pistol grip designs?
5k away from 1million i cant believe it
you deserve every subscriber thank you
The M60 is kinda hybrid gun as it used parts of the fg42 and the mg42
Yes you are correct mind you they dropped the fire rate also
Yes right. Also the durability and accuracy were decreased for some reason.
Yo I see it now it looks exactly like it
Pretty cool! Thanks to the collector and of course Ian for sharing it with us :)
Such beautiful engineering ... in the middle of the war!
Looks like a comfy grip to hold
Let's take a moment to appreciate that Ian is sitting at a table with (and touching!) not one, but two original FG-42s.
Such a beautiful rifle
I love your content Ian.
My favorite rifle.
Thanks a lot, showing us such a rare piece of history.
A prototype FG-42 out of Rheinmetall's own collection, which was probably demonstrated infront of Göring in unaltered state... I dare not imagine the prices to which this would climb up to if it ever got auctioned
This thing was ahead of it's time.
АК производят все, а это все еще впереди...
Immagine getting a pre-production fg 42 as a gift
At what point did the FG-42 lose the stripper clip guide?
Brian Taylor we can see the first pattern still has it.
Now you said that they changed the grip angle, but comparing the two, it didn't look all that different.
But man, you're bringing out the unicorns.
I still wonder why no one ever made a modernized version of this.
Because it's a Type C does that mean you can holster it both ways around now?
One of the most underrated channels on youtube... :)....
Something else is on the way, I can feel it in me bones. Bless up Gun Jesus.
Blessed be!!
Thanks, this presentation makes my day!
Been waiting all morning! Nice!
I still can’t get over that he had over 500 thousand dollars worth of gun on that table.
the FG-42 is my most favorite gun of any period in history
If it's part of a trials batch and so mismatched, would that be from the testing? More destructive testing to make sure it just plain works?
At least that's what my first thoughts are.
That grip angle though... the whole time I'm looking at it I just want to FOLD. THE. DAMN. THING. DOWN. into a normal angle. I'm sure it works fine but damn it's funky looking
Sure that angle got you closer to the ground, but your uniform buttons still kept you up too high.
Oh hwhatup early risers (in the west). I love seeing this pop up right as I wake up, damn near every morning.
lol
Wudup
We love you dude.
Incredible firearm, especially for the time. WW2 era had some amazing firearm advances.
And only small variations since then. That was pretty much the end of the line for chemical powered slug throwers.
awesome
Getting very close to the million subs mark!
Wouldn't it be more of a replacement for the ZB-26 than the MG-34? It has a 20-round magazine rather than a 100-round belt.
That puppy was stupid OP in COD2
This is the best looking looking version imo
Rheinmetall also made the panzer 1 tank, which, I believe, stopped production (at least with rheinmetall) around the time they produced the first few FG-42 prototypes. They believed that weapons were better for their bottom line.
It's always about the money.
when you posted the picture of those two i commented that it was probably 500k worth of FG42. I think i may have been a bit low.
"The Parabellum Is Back!" damn i want that book.
I wish that Gun Jesus knows Gun Santa and we all can get FG-42s for christmas, seems only fair
Coolest looking gun I know of.
Glad to see Malta getting love. 🇲🇹
Yo my man Reznov was running around with a PPSH-41 while i was using one of these.
I wonder if Ian will ever have the opportunity to do something with the production of FG42s like he did with the Thompson SMGs
A prototype version of the mythical FG-42, on top of being a gun handled by a historic figure, aaaaaaand was technically in one of the greatest WWII movies of history. How much does this thing cost again??
Seeing two FG42s next to each other. Wow.
Puh, iam happy this is not going in a private collection.
@@cortex383 Ou damn i thought its a public Museum on Malta
Angelika Zimmer ha
They would not have had to blank adapt them to make them cycle. Wood tipped blanks and the stock muzzle brake work fine in cycling it.
Fun fact:
That green book in the background is titled "Firearms used by the [Finnish] Defense Forces after 1859" in Swedish.
Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan! \o/
Ahem, that's in Norwegian my friend :-)
@@DagTronstad Uff Dah!!!
@@dwightstjohn6927 :-)
Ian, blink sos in morse code if you're being held hostage in malta in your next intro from malta.
**HOLD BREATH FOR 1MLN SUBS**
the rolodex sight (in probably metres) is what I want on my pellet gun!!
I'm a simple man I see FG42 I click
Whoa. That French bayonet is such a cool piece of history.
Get this in a Star Wars movie asap!
I remember after the crash in 2008 seeing an FG42 come up for sale and about 3 stoner 63a's...the wealthy must have been hit hard!
Is there any bootleg footage of the Saving Private Ryan scene with the FG-42?
As Karl might say, it's not only a unicorn, it's a Pegacorn!
Honestly it's a real shame the FG-42 wasn't developed further. I really think the Germany where onto something really good. Also that's a lot of money but it's worth every penny I think, one of the few firearms where no amount of money could describe how cool the firearm is.
Kuddlesworth NA well, they did. The Sturmgewehr was it. The FG was great, but it’s a really frail rifle. Dropping them, tossing them, and not maintaining is a terrible idea. They’re renowned for accuracy, lightweight, and being a fragile gun. The later STG, and CETME rifles are a continuation of the concept.
Side question: Would an FG-42 bayonet work in a MAS-36?
Yay!
The planets have aligned
Is that a stripper clip guide I see on the ejection port? Was the FG-42 made to take K98 stripper clips?
might've decided it would be a good idea to add that as an option in a pinch. Instead of rearming a magazine round for round, you'd rearm 5 shots a piece.
When you said that, I started thinking that there's so many similarities to the Johnson LMG that its astounding that they were developed separately (in parts, ideas, and operation [recoil absorption in idea] , etc.).
LOUDcarBOMB except the Johnson is awful. And this thing is amazing.