John Lennon - #9 Dream [Take 1] (from the presumed lost session tapes)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- John Lennon - #9 Dream [Take 1]. From the preparations for the 'Walls & Bridges' Ultimate release. Previously unreleased, previously unbootlegged. From the presumed lost session tapes for #9 Dream.
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From the preparations for the 'Walls & Bridges' Ultimate release. Previously unreleased, previously unbootlegged. From the presumed lost session tapes for #9 Dream.
What is 'The lost session'??
Mind-blowing to finally hear an outtake for this song. But sacrilege they've been pitch correcting Lennon's vocals on recent mixes.
Pitch-correction, really? On the Mind Games set? I just can't understand why they need to do this! I want to hear the natural vocals of the singer.
@@Flowerbranche There has been patching all over the place on these boxsets, which to be honest is justifiable to me, to make it a bit more "presentable". This practice goes back to the 90's Anthology (Beatles or Lennon). But actual altering of pitch (or timing) of what a late great singer originally sung is to me ‘not done’ and beyond the point of releasing outtakes.
But yes, they started (at least noticeably) doing it on the ‘Mind Games’ boxset. And we can prove it by comparing some of the same takes to pre-pitch correction era official releases (1998 Anthology) or raw bootlegs. Most of the time it’s very slight tuning (and/or patching from other parts or takes) though. But obviously on this ‘#9 Dream’ outtake they went all out on it.
For those who really wanna know… ‘One Day (At A Time)’ take 16 is the best example: a raw tape has been bootlegged, it was properly mixed and officially released in 1998 and now again in 2024. For the 2024 (re)mix of that outtake there’s for example a little bass patch at 0:49-0:51, but a bum note like at 2:07 is being left alone, so it’s far from completely sanitised. But for the vocals there’s tuning on the - here we go - “day” at 0:48, very slightly the “oh” at 1:09, the “eve-“ at 1:41, the “do” at 2:13, the “is” at 2:21, the “you” at 2:29, the “tu du du’s” at 2:36-2:37, the “du” at 2:44, the “apple” at 2:58, the “’cuz” at 3:00 and “’cuz I’m” at 3:02…
agreed, the autotune sounds awful
@@biner01 I really hope the team working on these mixes, who otherwise are doing a tremendous job, will be stumbling upon our comments...
This is fantastic. Such a bonus treat while I'm digesting the Mind Games set.
Vraiment magnifique !
im edging to this, thank you so much!!! i'm assuming more will be leaked soon from whoever got it
The team started teasing us through radio broadcasts, I was floored when this suddenly came on out of nowhere. Also included were a few other bits like an unreleased 'Whatever Gets You Through The Night' outtake, but there's already hours of bootlegs for that one. It's obvious they've been preparing and finalising boxsets for all solo albums for a while.
@@thefiremanrushesin Did you grab the "Whatever" outtake too? I've got the boots but I'd be curious to hear that one too. Either way, thanks for sharing this!
Great fine
Keltner's got a brain like a deaf elephant 🙂
Ahh bawaKAKA pousse
KI ?
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@@thefiremanrushesin KI = Kunstig Intelligens
@@nadiachristiansen7599 Oh, "AI" for the rest of the world. Why is everyone so obsessed with that? Why would this be AI?
AI with chat gp ? Supertramp ?
@@gaswirt Whatcha talkin' bout Willis?
AI?
Haha what's this obsession with "AI"... Why would this be "AI"?
@@thefiremanrushesin The edits and the sound quality gives it away
@@paulknight9998 I appreciate the compliment, but let's give the "AI" obsession a rest. The day this outtake appears on the 'Walls & Bridges' Ultimate release will come sooner than the day "AI" can whip up a unique Nicky Hopkins piano arrangement, nail Klaus Voormann's typical early-take bass flubs, capture Lennon improvising an melody just like his early demos, mix it exactly like the modern Lennon Ultimate series outtakes, and throw in a genuine Jim Keltner comment, all at the same time. Where are these supposed edits you're talking about anyway? It's a breakdown take. What's wrong with the sound quality?
@@thefiremanrushesin You just submitted the script you fed into the AI. The edits in the dialogue, they're a little abrupt, they don't flow naturally. In that context the content of the dialogue comes off as a little...calculated. The audio is too high fidelity. It could pass for a 1990s recording but definitely not a recording from 1974.
Good try though.
@@paulknight9998 Oh, I see. Then why was this broadcast last week on SiriusXM as part of the LENNON 360 series during the Klaus Voormann episode, as one of the “previously unheard music and studio out-takes directly from the Lenono Estate” as stated in the press release, which is the source of my upload? 🥲You just couldn’t accept it, could you…
A tip on audio for next time: your precious “AI” obsession would actually make it sound way more lo-fi and artificial than this. This is a 1974 16-track recording, made in the best studios with the finest analogue equipment and top engineers. Modern studios in 2024 would kill to sound like they could back then.