Pope Blesses Same Sex Relationships
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Pope Blesses Same Sex Relationships
Sermon delivered by Fr Mousa on Sunday, January 7, 2024
Here are the links of the two documents referenced in this video.
1. This first link is the vatican statement from March of 2021 explaining why catholic clergy are forbidden from blessing same sex couples:
press.vatican....
2. This link is the recent vatican statement from December of 2023 that allows the blessing of "Couples of the Same Sex," as referenced in paragraph 31 :
www.vatican.va...
The Pope is not who we praise. We praise the Lord, his teachings, no man can change the bible.
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Why Francis Can't Be The Pope - Accepting Francis = Apostasy
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Very well said!
Ah. Sola scriptura.
@@eabm1984Exactly! Catholics are really the first Protestants.
May the Lord continue to protect our holy Orthodox Church ❤☦️
Pope Francis never approved blessing of unions- same sex marriage it is only a blessing given to people who wants to be redeemed and asks for Gods Mercy- Mercy is infinite and God always will give His mercy even to most hardened sinners even to prostitutes Mary Magdalen , the woman at the well , the one who will be stoned etc....
The Orthodox Church is schismatic. Christ placed Peter in charge of His Church and gave HIM the keys. Not a council of bishops. There are errors in the above speech, despite his praiseworthy denunciation of the "blessings" issue.
@@patriciamargaret19565 the seeds for what is happening in the Catholic Church now were sown many centuries ago and it is now reaping the rewards of its claim of superiority towards fellow apostolic successors - just like you are doing here - better to stay meek and humble - may the Lord have mercy on our catholic brethren
@@creampuffwar4457 I completely agree. May God bless you 🙏🏻
@@patriciamargaret19565 In Matthew chapter 18, the entire college of Apostles receives the exact same power of binding of loosing given to Peter in Matthew chapter 16. They were all given the power of the keys, not just Peter.
Not to mention the circularity of the keys argument for universal jurisdiction of the Roman bishop:
Who ultimately has the authority to decide what is scripture and what is not? “The Pope.”
How do we know that the Pope has the authority to do this? “The scriptures.”
This is a circle.
All of Roman Catholic apologetics hinge on the singular false conflation of papal ‘primacy’ (which did exist in the early Church) with papal ‘universal jurisdiction’ (as dogmatically defined by Vatican 1, which did not exist in the early Church).
May God guide us all 🖤.
We need more priests like this
Matthew 10: 34 "I did not come to bring peace but a sword For I have come to turn "'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-- .. . .
There is a problem with the desire of unity at all costs. We must maintain ONE church with people that will die for it. You CANNOT usurp the orthodox Church teaching without risk of excommunication.
The priests that fail should be removed by force
I hope not. Honesty first. Tell him to read and understand what he reads.
I have been here for a couple of baptisms for the orthodox side of the family and I love his boldness in his speeches, am a catholic and I’m holding onto the traditional teachings and the traditional understanding of the word of God. Let God bless priests like this
You are not Catholic. No faithful Catholic would believe this nonsense. You're protestant and have never been able to overcome that theologynof doubt of the Holy See.
Truly spoken with the Holy Spirit. Amén ☦️
Amen.
Thank you Father for speaking the truth! The truth will set you free!
Thank you. As a 52-year-old cradle Catholic, I wish our own priests spoke with such clarity.
I've struggled to remain Catholic under this papacy. For me, this was the last straw. I've considered Orthodoxy in the past. Maybe it's time to look east again.
@3ggshe11s - then you will leave Christ's Church to go into schism. The Orthodox is in schism.
The Real History Of “Orthodoxy”
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Vatican II is A New Religion (Visual Proof)
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@@patriciamargaret19565it is exactly the oposite. The whole history since 1054 proves that. You don't have to belive me. Just read some universal history. The true one.
And pray sincerly for, and God will reveale you THE TRUTH!
@@patriciamargaret19565 the church of Rome is antichrist because it is against the true teachings of Jesus Christ.
just go SSPX, dont become a schismatic.
Thank you for the wisdom Abouna.
I'm Latin Mass Catholic, but you are absolutely speaking my language! Well done
Be careful. Schism is confusing
I left The RCC over the summer. Best decision I've ever made.
The trads will be considered schismatic very soon.
@@ComeHomeRome were u ever a true Catholic
He's right about the Pope's nonsense about blessing same sex couples but a Catholic cannot agree with him on thd doctrinal or other moral issues e.g. primacy of the papacy, obligation to obey papal error, the Immaculate conception. We must remember the Orthodox Church permits artificial contraception and remarriage in the Church.
All the African countries' bishops conferences plus Poland, Hungary and others and individual bishops throughout the world have refused to allow such blessings. Having lived in Africa and served as a layman with Catholic missionaries I can assure you no African priest would defer to an error by the Pope vbrather than their bishops.
Cardinals Mueller, Bourke, Zen and Sarah have officially challenged the Pope on this in accordance with Church law.
This priest intends well but appears to be on a recruitng drive as well. I have loved Orthodox spirituality for decades, reading the Philokalia and the writings of many of their Saints like Theophan the Recluse, John of Kronstadt, John Climacus etc etc. and practised hesychasm. St John Paul II said the Eastern and Western churches are the two lungs of the Church.
So this priest would have been better to confine his criticism to Pope Francis (who is not identical to the Church, nor is the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith). He is not well acquained with the facts described above nor with the teaching of the Catholic Churcb. Pope Francis errors here are noe ex-cathedra infallible statements requiring our assent. We believe in God's revelation in Sacred Tradition and Scripture.
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@@GordonSou You are posting nonsense! Contraception is forbidden in Holy Orthodoxy and re-marriage too.
I am Roman Catholic. Thank you, Father, for your clear teaching. Your homily encourages me.
If you were a true Roman Catholic then you wouldn’t be listening to this sermon from a schismatic and apostate minister
@maryscapular You're really NOT a "Roman" Catholic unless you were born /live in Rome. Here's a very brief history of the Name of the Catholic Church www.christianorder.com/files/HOW%20DID%20THE%20CATHOLIC%20CHURCH%20GET%20HER%20NAME.pdf
@maryscapular, I posted a comment and a link for you a while back, earlier today, but it has been removed. Please take a minute to visit the website of Christian Order (a London based Catholic publication) and go to the links page where you can click on an article entitled How Did the Catholic Church Get Her Name. It should be read by all who call themselves Roman Catholics, because the Roman was added by the Protestant Reformers in the 16th century. It makes very interesting reading.
Why Francis Isn't Pope
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Study the pope’s document more closely
Glory to the Truth in all things, Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ! ☦️ Amen .
Father, thank you so much for this courageously spoken sermon, it gives me so much hope and clarity. I have just converted to Orthodoxy because of the Holy Spirit. I pray for God to continue to work through you to help save others like me (Revelations 18:4).
Good to hear a wonderful sermon, preaching the truth. 🙏
As a RC the Orthodox position is very compelling as exemplified with Clarity by Fr Mousa.
Much to consider, as everyday that passes the Catholic Church is becoming more heretical and untenable.
There has not been a murmur of dissent,to date, by the RC Bishops in Ireland.
God Bless and thanks.
I think it is important to clarify that some, but not all in the Catholic church, are herretical. There are many devout and loving people in the Roman Rite. We also need to clarify that just because the pope says something, it is not church teaching, unless he officially speaks from the seat of Peter. Francis has not done that. Therefore, what he says is just his opinion.
lalacrypto1,
Respectfully, Pope Francis affirmed the document, which is part of the ordinary magisterium. Per Vatican 1, Catholics are bound to submit to the new teaching.
The Catholic Church can not become heretical. This is guaranteed by Christ. But the false 'Vatican 2' religion is not the Catholic Church. Seek out validly ordained clergy... See CMRI, or St. Gertrude the Great in Cincy, or Most Holy Trinity Seminary in Reading...they are all congregations who profess the true faith and did not apostatize.
I submit to the teachings of Christ,I am not called to affirm the teachings of a man who is de facto blessing sin.
We are called to discern not to blindly submit to a Church which is changing its minds evert other day on a whim.
Vatican 1 and 2 were a mistake.I will not blindly follow something or somebody that I believe to be wrong.
I will take my chances and will account for my position when the day comes,
as it will for all.
God bless.@@erikmiller2514
@@erikmiller2514No if any of the popes are to try to validate any teaching which is contrary to the deposit of faith then it is heretical and he becomes liable under divine law, the laity don't have to follow anything that is contrary to the faith.
I have listened to dozens of clergy and apologists about the document Fiducia Supplicans and this is the most clear of them all.
Lord, may You protect and bless this brave, courageous, and great priest! + + +
Actually, the Pope never said priests could bless same sex couples. He said that anyone can receive an individual blessing, even if they have committed a sin. During every single Mass, the congregation receives many blessings, even though we are all sinners. The document reiterated that same sex unions are NOT to be treated as equal to Holy Matrimony, and are not to be celebrated by any priest.
You are hypocrites! Playing with words. Your yes should be a yes and your no should be a no
Thank you for this video with your strong message. I am a sedevacantist, not that it matters to the Vatican. Sigh! I will subscribe to your channel. I need strong, honest teaching. God bless you!
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You’re not catholic, you’re a neoprotestant and you must repent.
@@brianluis4248 sedevacantism is simply recognizing the popes to be invalid popes because they thought error. It's the common teaching of the saints that heretic lose jurisdiction. Plus there is a dogma that if a pope prior to his election has before hand deviated from the faith, such election in and of itself shall be invalid, even with the unanimous consent of the cardinals, together with the obedience and veneration given to him by the faithful. That's from a bull of pope Paul the fourth and he used the words, decree and define. Most catholics in the diocese never talk about this dogma because it gives room for the possibility of a fraudulent pope. 6:45
@@robertkolinsky1286 Thank you. And I am hardly the only one to have concluded this.
Interesting. I pray for strength and good discernment in your spiritual struggles. You may want to "stop in" or "take a look" during one of Divine Liturgies. If nothing else you will find it an interesting experience.
@@brianluis4248 That's your opinion. But guess what? Brogolio is a raving heretic determined to change Church doctrine. That has never happened before. Any heretic is ipso facto not able to be Pope. So, Brogolio is no longer Pope. What does that mean for the Chair of St. Peter? It means NO POPE occupies it. The chair doesn't have a Pope. Ergo, the chair is empty.
Vigano has called for Brogolio's arrest. Plenty of other Bishops, Archbishops and Cardinals have said Brogolio is in apostasy. Go complain to them. Don't bother me. I'm small fry. Go after the big guns saying Brogolio is a heretic.
Former Catholic. I am feeling sad and horrified for my Catholic brothers and sisters. 😢
Why feel sorry for us , you left the One Holy Apostolic Church, I hope one day you return.
@@danielmeadows3712lmao the Roman Catholic Church is built on heresy. They split off from the original church
@@FilmnAura Which church did they split from?
@@FilmnAura which Church did they split from and? When did that take place?
@@danielmeadows3712 it took place in 1054. It’s called the great schism. Learn about history brother. There were 5 patriarchies before the schism which were in Jerusalem, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch and Rome. Rome split off from the other 4 adding the Filioque and the heresy of papal supremacy. The Roman Catholic Church is the result of the great schism and has been built on reformation and heresy. Just look at Vatican 2.
I am an Ethiopian Orthodox Christian, and I do not support sin. Also I will call a sin when I see one! A sin is a sin. Let us unite as Orthodox Christain.
Thank God that although I was baptized Roman Catholic, I had the blessing of having the Orthodox Church to convert to.
I was born into the Episcopal Church. At 44 I converted to Catholicism. My birth Church had gone crazy.
Now the Catholic Church has gone crazy. I might stay to see to becomes the next Pope. Will the Cardinals bring us back to where we should be?
Orthodox is looking very enticing.
@@AnneEloiseOfCNY Praying for strength during these spiritual struggles. You may want to just "stop by" and "take a look" during one of our Divine Liturgies. If nothing more you will find it be an interesting experience. Be well
@@bigg4879 Thank you! Yes, I will look. And research. I have heard a few RUclips sermons by Orthodox priests, and they were excellent. This deserves research. Thanks for the suggestion! God bless you!
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@@AnneEloiseOfCNY Thanks. God Bless.
Why dont you work on all the problems in the orthodox church? I know many loose women that are Orthodox, many illegitimate children in orthodoxy. Go to work, son.
Thank you for this! Father bless!
How can I obtain a transcript of this amazing sermon?
He allows blessing of sinners, not sinful union. Very clear from the document itself
Neither FS nor Fernandez’ clarification are clear.
@@maryscapular they are both extremely clear. Unless you have cognitive bias.
The church could already bless individual people. The document authorizes the blessing of sinful unions while claiming not to.
@@3ggshe11s No, that is false. The document guides priests on how to bless irregular couples. The sinful aspects of their relationship such as anything sexual is forbidden from being blessed. The union itself is forbidden from being blessed. The document guides a priest on how to give a blessing to a couple who seeks out a blessing from a priest, it allows the priest to give a blessing so long as it is not blessing the union.
@@christopherjohnson9167 They don't need a blessing. They NEED TO BE TAUGHT TO TURN AWAY FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS! Your "pope" is not even a validly ordained priest. YOU ARE ONE OF THE DECEIVED! The vatican 2 council is the harlot of babylon in the later days. And that is NOW!
***one thing is blessing persons no matter their status and another thing is blessing a sin***
Thank you for telling the truth. Many stop at the title, and forget paragraph 5 or the end of paragr. 31 where it is reitereted that irregular couples have to follow the gospel. Also, a possibility of blessing is not a command to bless. But people feel so sure about the Church allowing blessings of irregular unions; it's so shocking, interesting, Dan Brown-like...sad.
Yes!
Playing with words!
@@piafounetMarcoPesenti Hypocrites
@@alexpanagiotis4706 I've heard this so many times. Isn't it sometimes necessary to distinguish? What you call playing with words leads to confusion, because in this case, a nuance can't be made. Homoousios / homoiousios should tell you that nuance and precise word usage is key. So next time you will have to "play with words" to explain a truth that you know true, which you have to be very nuanced about, you will be glad to say you are distinguisihing what only at first glance seems the same.
I have also heard that benediction or blessing means acceptation. Yes, today, and even today not only. So why restricting the word to it's improper meaning?
Many priests have interpreted it correctly, so it means that one can understand it in an orthodox way. Therefore, one must.
As an Orthodox, it is understandable that you think we lost the Faith somehow, but that is not the type of document that can be discussed much, in light of paragr. 5, which seems to vanish anytime people arrive at pargr. 31...funny...
I am also a Roman Catholic. Thank you, Father. God bless you.
Jesus said to Peter “ you are Peter the Rock and on this rock I will build my church. And the gates of hell will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. What you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. What you retain on earth will be retained in heaven “.
The Catholic Orthodox Priest really gifted by the Holy Spirit who speaks the truth and strongly stands to the tradition of old and new testaments. May God give you more strength to pursue your spiritual commitment.
Blasphemy!
You cannot bless sin only the sinner can be blessed🙏
No, The Holy Father hates the sin but is asking Priest to bless the lost, not their sin! 🌺☦️🌺
No he isn't. That much can be seen by the cultural reaction to it. If its intent were to pull people out of sinful unions, churches would be burning right now.
I'm Orthodox, but neither of my priests talk about this stuff in their sermons. I wish they would. Honestly, I think a bunch of people would leave the church in anger which is why I suspect they don't address it.
Yes, we should not tolerate the sin of homosexuality because it is contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church and the Holy Scriptures but when the Holy Father, Pope Francis, asked priests to bless same-sex couples, he simply reiterated that the decision was simply a “BLESSING OF MERCY,” a blessing that is an invitation to live a less sinful life and draw closer to God. And this should not be confused with the teaching of the Catholic Church about the sanctity of the Sacrament of Marriage between one man and one woman.
The parents of a disobedient son, no matter what, still love him as their son. During the Catholic worship - the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the priest blesses the congregation, which consists of both GOOD and SINNER PEOPLE, or VERY VERY SINNER PEOPLE who have committed crime such as murder, adultery, etc. The priest does not bless the sins of the people but rather the individuals.
The source of the confusion comes from anti-Catholics and the media (not all) who distort and exaggerate the Holy Father's message that the Catholic Church now allows same-sex unions, and some even go so far as to say that it is now APPROVED. Is not !!! They need to read the documents !!!
God bless the Holy Father Pope Francis, God bless the Catholic Church, and God bless the Orthodox Church !!! 🙏
Thank you for actually the document.
facts!
You're fooling yourself if you think the purpose of the document is to pull people out of sin. To the contrary, it very deliberately intends to validate sinful unions.
If the priest already blesses all people in a catholic service including the very sinful of them, then why the document to instruct priest on how to bless gays or lesbians?
@@celestinshayo7295 Do you really think that people are always in a Catholic Mass?
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. (Galatians 1: 10) this is what some religious leaders do .
Thank you, Father. Your preaching is clear.
God is merciful, Thanks be to God!
I am a Catholic.Why can an a priest from Orthodox Church see the truth and sai it as it is and pope cannot admit what he is really trying to do?It saddenes me so much to have Our church in such a bad shape.Thank you father fos speaking the Truth with Holy Spirit being present.
Did you ask your parish priest?
This priest speaks s lot of sense and truth. However, he is using the current situation to attack the Catholic Church on other issues if disagreement such as the procession of the Holy Spirit in the creed and the immaculate conception of Mary, which are long standing doctrinal issues having no relationship to faducia supplicans. He has also not correctly given the role of the pope and his relations to the other bishops. He's simply using an unfortunate situation in the Catholic Church to promote his church, thus letting people know that all the talks about ecumenism hopefully. leading to Christian unity is insincere and just a show.
Praying you, and Francis, end your schism and stop masquerading as the true Catholic church. Grace be with you.
I am Roman Catholic,but you are absolutely right about our Pope,it’s so sad,it’s not only the blessings to homosexuality but Novus Ordo mass is not acceptable either for us traditional Catholics,whole world is in chaos
It is not true what you are saying. Read the Vatican document and you will see that there is no truth in all these lies. Same sex relationship is NOT blessed. Homosexuality is NOT blessed etc. There is no truth in any of these stories. Listen and read the truth in official primary sources, not sources from the enemies of the Church.
12:45 _"we are all sinners, bishops and priests included"_
And on the exegesis of many on Galatians 2, even the first Pope.
Though Clement the Stromatist considered that was someone else named Cephas, not the first among the twelve.
That does not take away from his infallibility on occasions like Acts 1 and 2.
God's word is more than human's, as much as Life is more than death
11:50 The Council of Nicaea II in 787 seems also to have stated, dogmatically, that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father through the Son.
No one prior to Palamas in the Vlakhernae synod pretended this referred only to an economic sending in the life of the Church, after God created.
But Palamas did realise that if it referred to the eternal procession of the Holy Ghost, this is equivalent to filioque.
Filioque was also taught expressly in the I Council of Toledo, AD 400. Note, we both agree, in the III Council of Toledo, filioque was read in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan creed, in 589. BUT, well before the Visigothic invasion, filioque was taught by the I Council of Toledo, in 400. When Priscillianism was condemned.
This was 41 years after Hosius of Corduba had died, a man who had known St. Athanasius of Alexandria.
Bless fr,Glory to god for sharing this truth in your video.the pope ignores the revealation of the saint.and its the revealation peroid that passing.
This priest is bearing false witness. He needs to repent. Notice how he never references any passage in the declaration...Why? Because it never allows for the blessing of same-sex relationships...If you disagree with me, reference the document, which is available online, and find any reference to the blessing of same-sex relationships... Everything this irresponsible priest says is out of context. He is deeply reckless. He appears to have never read the declaration, never read any commentary and he is totally cut off from the process that led to the document. This is a lazy condemnation and not the work of a good pastor...I repeat: if you disagree, reference the declaration.
The most conservative College of Bishops, the Nigerian Bishops, approved the document as orthodox. The most traditionalist religious order, The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate, said in no uncertain terms that it was orthodox. The Eparch of Parm, a Byzantine rite Bishop, recently expressed his support of the document. As is consistent with the Pope's 2021 statement, "you cannot bless sin." There is absolutely no provision for the blessing of sin in the document. I challenge anyone to find one sentence in the 15,000 word declaration that permits this in any way. It is fully within the tradition of marriage being heterosexual, monogamous and life-long.
This Orthodox priest, and others like Father Trentham, are making wildly inaccurate accusations out of a desire to, it would appear, say negative things about the Catholic Church.
The blessing of couples is the same as blessing their union. The document is deceptive. You have to see what it's really saying; it's not a matter of citing some particular part of it.
Be very clear: in no situation is the couple blessed as a couple; the couple, whether heterosexual or homosexual are blessed in their "irregular relationship" so that they may receive strength from God and do this will.
Why would you oppose this? Is your prejudice against those suffering and in need of grace so deep that you would deprive them of a non-liturgical priestly blessing?
My local parish blesses dogs, cats and homes. Should we not bless divorced and remarried Catholics that want to live chastely?
Or homosexuals who want to live rightly?
Thank you well put
11:46 No. Our Church structure was that of Nicaea II, in 787.
It expressly tied the validity of councils to Papal consent.
Catholic here. Thank you for your clear teaching on this matter; I wish our priests had more courage. However, may I point out that Catholic bishops are the authority in their dioceses, not the Pope. Catholics have made the mistake, especially since the 19th century, of treating the Pope like a dictator. It started because they wanted a sort of guarantee against secular 'Modernism'. It never seems to have occurred to them at the time, that this would be dangerous if you had a bad Pope. Catholics need to remember: the Pope is NOT normally infallible; this charism relates to very specific cases (definitions of faith and morals; the last such event was in 1950). Treat the Pope with respect, yes; like a dictator, no. He can and must be corrected by the bishops, and this attitude of obsequiousness in the Catholic Church needs to end.
I'm a Catholic too. The problem for us is spoken by this good orthodox priest at 14:08. If we go to mass (where the priest says "together with Francis our pope") and then we take communion, we're professing obedience to him and his teachings. That's why I have stopped receiving communion at the Novus Ordo Mass. I only receive communion when I can make it to a Traditional Latin Mass, because at that mass, the priest does not say those words out loud. If we receive communion, we are not professing obedience to the pope and his teachings; because we never heard his name mentioned.
@@danielschmude Ah ha! Thanks ever so much for this information. When I became sedevacantist about Francis, I was told not to go to the NO masses anymore. But I didn't know why. Frankly, I regularly get overwhelmed how this little thing or that little thing matters in Catholicism! In my former religion (Episcopal) we only had about 500 years of history, and little things, to take into account. As a Catholic, there is almost 2,000 years to take into account. So, I quickly get overwhelmed and lost!
But what you said makes sense. No, I will not affirm Francis as Pope in a Consecration prayer, of all things! That Consecration is something to be very correct about. So, okay, I will seek a traditional parish. Now I see it's a necessity. Thanks so very much! God bless you!
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@@brianluis4248 By "canonical" latin mass, I assume you mean the FSSP (which is in communion with the pope). Here's the thing. I don't know whether or not the priest is saying those words ("together with Francis our pope"), because I cannot hear what he is saying during that part of the prayer. Since I cannot hear what he is saying, I cannot be accused of professing that I'm in communion with a self-excommunicated pope. This is why Satan is trying to abolish the TLM. He's trying to force every catholic to profess that they are in communion with a heretic. It's not going to work; because Catholics have the right to receive communion without professing that they are in communion with a heretic.
@@brianluis4248 I (and other catholics) believe that the pope is rejecting communion with the Catholic Church. Whether my bishop believes that is between him and God, and whether the FSSP priest believes that is between him and God. That's why that part of the prayer, through God's providence, is whispered.
@@brianluis4248 I don't believe you. Period. If Cannon Law is that warped, the Natural Law God put into the hearts of every man is clear. "Do not call evil good. Do not call good evil."
I will obey the laws of God rather than the laws of men. "
As a practicing Catholic I totally abhor Bergolio's same sex blessings. You cannot bless mortal sin and this current pope is in serious error!
I am surprised and really flaggabasted when i read and hear what Catholics, Christians and other believes reacting to the Pope's directives for the blessing of same - sex marriages.For me this issue is so clear and without ambiguity because the holy bible, the Word of God is our guide and the Word of God clearly forbids same sex marriage.Our Father in heaven even provides punishment for those who are involved in this unholy and sinful act.Finally read Revelation chapter 22:11-13.The Good Lord will Judge all including the Pope.
13:03 Not only that.
Pope St. Coelestine I said, one had the right and duty to withdraw obedience from Nestorius, from when he first started to preach heresy.
He wrote this the year before the Council of Ephesus was held. Some had already told the patriarch of Constantinople, "you are not my bishop" after he had denied the fact that Mary is the Holy Theotokos. This is also correct. And it happened before _any_ kind of council had as yet called Nestorius to repentance.
The Orthodox can't keep from excommunicating each other long enough to decide on the most minute of issues, and this priest obviously hasn't read the document. Get Alexandria and Moscow to stop declaring each other anathema and then we can talk. Orthodoxy is the definition of inconsistent. Don't believe me? Let's see what they say about divorce and contraception.
Thank you for reading the document (also based comment).
Also, when the Orthodox do not accept the Immaculate Conception of the Mother of God, it’s an eye opener that something is wrong with the Orthodox Church.
Our Lady is the one who will crush the head of Satan finally. The time for this encounter is very very near. Pray for the Catholic Church as she goes through the mess during this time. Stay strong and remain Catholic, do not leave the ship. The Catholic Church is the one and only true church built by Jesus and his apostles.
Any one pointing fingers at the Catholic Church needs to understand that there are two fingers pointing at him or her back.
No, it's quite clear he's read it. As have all of us who see it for what it is.
Amen! ☦🛐
• Христос в тебе и ты во Христе
• Christ in you and you in Christ
• Christus in dir und du in Christus
• Christ en toi et toi en Christ
• Christus in u en u in Christus
If one actually reads the instruction from the Vatican one will see that it says very clearly that irregular unions are not to be blessed. Commentary on this instruction is introducing a lack of clarity which is not in the instruction itself.
Your heading is inflammatory and misleading, he doesn’t bless same sex marriages . Read the document, show me where it says that.
The headings all say relationships, not marriages.
Nonetheless, I highly recommend watching this grammatical breakdown by (Catholic) Timothy Gordon of paragraph 31 of the Vatican’s document. It’s starts at the 9 minute 29 second mark of the video titled “I TOLD YOU SO - Pastoral Blessings”: posted by Timothy Gordon here on RUclips.
People are not misrepresenting the document when they claim that the document explicitly does allow for the blessing of same sex couples. As seen in paragraph 31 of the document: “Within the horizon outlined here appears the possibility of blessings for couples in irregular situations and for couples of the same sex…”.
Is that supposed to be a debate if everyone speaking about it that something is hapening
GOD BLESS YOU. BLESSED BE GOD FOREVER
Oh but Catholics who are educated in the Faith DO know how to respond. There is no such thing as "official" Church teaching, there is only authentic Church teaching and the Fathers teach us that we know that because we can check that every authentic teaching is traditional - whether a teaching is clarified or pronounced after due study of Scripture etc. (such as the dogma of Our Lady's Assumption into Heaven) it will always be what was believed by all Christians always, and everywhere (to cite St Vincent de Lerins). Papal infallibility is limited to just that - no pope can change dogma or the moral law. This pontiff is a very bad pope, the worst ever, and in time he will be denounced by the legitimate authority in the Church; for now, he is a cross for us to bear but no Catholic should be in any doubt - we must not conform to his errors and heresies but resist them. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!
14:15 By going to a Church where Pope Michael II is commemorated, I agree that we may sing Gloria in excelsis even on a Christmas under such dire forebodings as this one.
That is what I can recall offhand of his Christmas message.
Is there a heresy in that?
These priests who are blessing same sex couples better be aware God is watching and He will not tolerate that.
Repent and turn to Jesus so we have everlasting life. Gay is Sin, period. People are not learning from what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Don't preach wrongly about the Catholic Church if you don't know for sure. The Catholic Church can never teach wrongly or can never teach against the Word of God. This man understands wrongly about what Pope Francis means
Francis is an apostate and a heretic. Thank God he's being called out.
God bless you!
Exactly, "God cannot bless sin"!
Some in Pope's cabinet are misguiding him to destroy him .
He is doing a fine job all on his own. Don't try to defend the man; he is not a victim.
"All Scripture is given by Almighty God and is profitable for Doctrine, for correction, for reproof, for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
2nd Timothy, 3:16.
7:16 I'd respond, that man already showed he was not Pope in 2014, in the "God is not a Demiurge with an omnipotent magic wand" quote or interview.
To begin with in early church history, RC excommunicated from the main head church in Constantinople due to its heretical dogma. Now, RC goes further to bless sinful act. Next move in the near future, RC will legalizing sinful marriages. ......Lord have mercy!!
Pope Francis is going to direct his priests NOT TO BLESS holy matrimony between man and woman, but to bless only gays and lesbian couples.Satan enthroned in the Vatican.It's time to stand up and say OUT FRANCIS, the perverted Bishop of Rome
From a convert to greek orthodox monastery canada.
It is very good, if the Pope Francisco does not accept same sex marriages. It is also very good, if he do not alow plessing same sex relstionship. Good. Becaus, it ks against the will of the biblical Father.
Now one question: Why soooo sooo sooo many Priests, Bishops and even Cardinals did NOT understand the Pope and Cardinal Fernandez right away in the right way???
Why soo soo soo many lay christians got confused around the globe???
Why could this document NOT BE WRITTEN so clear, that every christisan soul could understand the message very clear???
Why same sex couple got exited and even got already blessed from catholic Priests...as same sex couple???
If a Pope wants to gkve an important message to his international community, then he must talk and write his instructions VERY, VERY CLEAR.
A redponsible Pope must think in advance and must know very well, that his instructions could be MIS-USED.
He must know, that the evil spirits are NOT sleeping.
I can only hope, Pope Francis has learned his lesson well.
I, as a lay person would have been able to give this instruction in e few sentence.
This hole CONFUSION was a loss of time, a loss of energy, a loss of inner peace and a loss of inner strengt.
It created a Christmas full of tension.
It even did not helped same sex confused people to get healt from there wounds.
We must forgive. But we must not tolerante this kind of confusion any longer.
GOD MAY BLESS ALL OF US.
LET US PRAY FOR UNION OF THE CHURCH.
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13:10 _"but a Pope cannot be removed"_
A false Pope can show he is false, by preaching heresy, which gives everyone in the Church immediate right to conclude he is not the Pope.
For this, we have St. Robert Bellarmine, we have Pope Paul IV, we have Torquemada (not sure if it was the Inquisitor or his uncle the Cardinal), we have St. Francis of Sales and we have a debate protocol from the Council in the Vatican 1869--70.
A "Pope" that teaches heresy is not a Pope. Precisely like a Nestorios who denies Theotokos is not a patriarch of Constantinople.
God bless you
12:41 _"no one is infallible except Jesus Christ"_
OK, St. Matthew when writing his Gospel?
St. Mark when writing his?
St. Luke when writing his?
St. John the Beloved when writing his?
And the four other authors, or even five if Hebrews was instead by St. Barnabas, as some have claimed, were they _not_ infallible when writing?
The council of Jerusalem, was it _not_ infallible?
When St. Paul gave St. Timothy oral instructions, were these not infallible?
When the council of Nicaea in 325 condemned Arius, was it not infallible, like the council of Jerusalem in Acts 15?
Are Apostles not Theopneust? Are their successors not Theopneust? John 20, verse 22, was it not God who breathed on them?
Matthew 28 verse 20, is God not ordering His Church to be infallible and promising His assistance to be unfailing?
Collective acts begin with individual acts, both the election of St. Matthias in Acts 1, and after the Holy Spirit started an unusually well timed collective act, did it not end in an individual one, Acts 2, with the sermon of St. Peter, the same who spoke out for electing a successor for Judas the Traitor?
Was there not an infallibility in the Old Covenant, even before the New Covenant, in Caiaphas before there was one in Cephas? Was John the Beloved fallible in chapter 11 and verse 51?
We are discerning leaving then catholic church what this priest says is true
Bless,The pope was warn via the saint revelation as they ignored.its the revealation .
Where is your Church ?
St Mary Orthodox Church in Palos Heights, IL
13:17 A Pope cannot be in heresy. A man in heresy cannot be Pope.
Therefore a "Pope in heresy" cannot infect the whole Church.
Yet, he has and continues to do just that. We have a 'Popesplainer!'
@@premodernprejudices3027 Can you detect any heresy in the late Pope Michael I or in his successor Michael II?
Despite the confusion that the Pope has sewn in his haste to reach a modern world I will not listen to him until he starts to make sense once more.
What does the Orthodox Church have to do with the Pope?
Thankfully, nothing at all.
@@premodernprejudices3027That's what I say.
11:59 Whatever it means, it's not a heresy that belongs with the Papacy, since Bergoglio is not the Pope.
The man of sin resides in a city that seats on 7 mountains. This is the nature of the Catholic Church from inception.
11:54 Come on!
The Greek and Coptic versions of the prayer Sub tuum praesidium end with "thou alone art pure, thou alone blessed" ... they express the Immaculate Conception.
Palamas believed it.
In 1666, Russians started to disbelieve it, due to the Skirzhal, a theological manual by a Greek Orthodox of Venice, translated to Slavonic, but one who had compromised his orthodoxy by studying among Lutheran heretics. Avvakum was burned on the stake among other reasons for staying faithful about the Immaculate Conception.
The denial comes from the West. The survival comes from the East, mainly. It is original Christian dogma, and it is definitely the maximal and correct expression of the sinlessness, by which Our Lady had defeated Satan, even before She was pregnant with God.
God bless you all holy amen
Vatican, one ended early and never addressed The procedure in details around the exercising papal infallibility. Further, it is a novel doctrine. Any Catholic or orthodox, who rightly proclaims and defends that which is always been believed, and practice By everyone everywhere,, based on his or her state and life.
Why change God's laws & commandments just for the sake of worldly passion & pleasure of some groups of people?
The devils never cease to pursue their goals to destroy the true church founded by Christ..Even popes can be used to distort the minds of the faithful ones but as scriptures says"No one can destroy church founded by Christ..
the document says priests can bless these couples, that they can turn away from sins. In fact the document upholds traditional orthodox teaching on sex and relationship and sin. It re-affirms that sin cannot be blessed, these unions cannot be blessed, the relationships themselves cannot be blessed. What can be blessed are the two individual sinners within the relationship. It is very clear if you read the document. Its odd that you would praise St John the Baptist as an exemplar of honesty and truth, while you are spreading falsehood. I know this narrative benefits your EO worldview, but it is simply untrue.
The intent is quite clearly not to pull people out of sin but to validate it. The church could already bless individuals. If that's all that was happening, there would have been no need for the document. Look who's praising it the most to understand its intent.
Do you seriously think James Martin called up a gay couple and set up a photo op for the New York Times, so the world could see a Catholic priest blessing two men holding hands -- all so he could "call them out of their sin"? No, he was literally blessing their sinful relationship. Wake up!
@@3ggshe11s that is you inserting your own opinion based on an emotional gut reaction, instead of trusting that the Pope and cardinal are being honest with their clarifications, and taking the document at face value based on what it actually says.
@@mancunianmartin558 this current document upholds that their unions cannot be blessed. Jesus called on us to be humanitarians to a degree. The Popes ecclesiastical teachings are more common then you would know, but those don’t generate clicks and unfortunately go ignored. People want their rage bait.
@@mancunianmartin558 thank you for your charitable dialogue. There is a difference between humanitarianism and humanism. Charity, almsgiving, caring for the destitute are essential for Christians.
I agree there is a pernicious influence of humanism, liberalism, progressivism and marxism on our culture, and there are some who want the church to bend to those ideologies. I just don’t think the church Jesus founded ever has or ever will bend to heresy. And this anxiety around the document reminds me of how people were anxious that the church would change her doctrine on contraception at the time of Humanae vitae. I just pray that during this time good Catholics wont join schismatic sects.
Peace 🙏
Pope , Pope, Pope how many times did I cal your name here ? 3 X .
POPE WE KNOW YOU AND WE ALSO KNOW YOUR MISSION BUT YOU CAN NOT PROCEED FURTHER .
I am a Traditional Roman Catholic priest. I reject the "pope s" heretical teaching on many levels, especially his latest push for blessings of irregular unions (divorced and civilly re-married and homosexuals). The man has nothing to do with Catholicism.
Your inteligence, inner freedom and rightness will lead you soon to the true tradition of the forefathers of the Church. The only one, apostolic, ortodox Church.
You are a choosen one! God have mercy!
From a former catholic :)
I have read comments defending the heretical pope. How could you defend herasy when the same sex couple came to the priest and ask for blessings for both as a couple., and if a priest bless them as couple ? That is called sinful act blessings. Yes, we are all sinners, and when we get to a priest, we confess our sin and do repentance and then we get blessing not to do sin again. That is called pure blessings. No need to spin or twist things. This pope is heretical. Period!
the document very clearly stated that the union/relationship of the couple is not blessed. Simply the two people are being blessed to help them turn away from sin.
5:55 If two homosexual men in a couple told you, they wanted to make peace with God, they wanted to find a lesbian couple for partner exchange, for real marriage, would you bless them?
In that case, I'd agree to bless them expressly for that purpose, not the contrary one.
The problem with the document is, § 31 seems to presume they should be staying faithful to each other.
Of the contraceptive perversions, homosexuality is worse than normal contraception (well, contraception isn't normal) insofar as a man and a woman may stay faithful and decide to be fertile next time, but the only way for such two men to be fertile next time is for next time for each to be with a woman, that is _with another person._
So, I'll have to disagree with Fr. Mark Goring on that one. Btw, he also would definitely refuse to bless sin, and would not bless the couple as couple.
Thank you. I think the sin of impurity being promoted blinds those involved in it. The virtue of Chastity according to your state in life, is of upmost urgence to ado God for the grace to live a chaste life.
Well done pope now you started the end of catholic belief , millions will abandon
11:39 You are hearing from me now.
Michael I did not bless same sex couples, even for sticking to each other, even hoping they would become chaste.
Michael II is not doing so either.
The Papacy is not invalidated by the act of an Antipope, like US currency is not invalidated by someone printing a three dollar bill.
I've never felt more fortunate to be an Orthodox Christian than today. The Pope has been on a steady blasphemous downfall.
Jesus acknowledged Judas' Apostolic office, even when he fell away and was replaced. We dont focus on the occupant of the Seat of Peter, we focus on that Seat. Francis' assertion is not true, nor is it final.
God bless you. I pray for ALL Gods children to come out of their apostate churches. 2 Thess 2:3 and Rev 17 ❤
You blessed them but will you be blessed by what you are doing? Will this blessing from you effective? If not, then it is not a blessing but a wish from you without the authority of spiritual blessing. In that case, I feel sad for the couple in your present.
Nowadays I’m wondering if there’s a way to become Orthodox Catholic coming from Catholic?
Yes, of course. Just "come and see." Come home!
"OBEY GOD RATHER THAN MEN."
As a Roman Catholic, only because God wants me to be, I am assured that the Holy Spirit protects His Church from teaching error, despite personal agendas or Judas priests. Cardinal Fernandez said that the object of the blessing is the human persons, because God cannot bless sin.
Yeees.. So sin is sin, right ?
Then open your EYES that same sex are not to be Blessed !
Antipope Francis I is a manifest heretic, so it's not a matter of corrupt priests. And yes, Francis did give permission to give ecclesiastical "blessings" of the union of sodomite "couples", not just the persons, which would be a deviation from the Church's teachings per se.
No he didn't. @@bernardjackson6594
Come to the true faith of Christ, Orthodoxy.
God does protect His church, Roman Catholicism is just not His church
January 7 is Orthodox Christmas and Saint John the Baptist is January 20
Amen
I love Christ but not the Pope though I am catholic, Pope can be changed , replace, killed or anything that we want but not Christ our Lord and our GOD.
Very wrong because Jesus Christ blessed marriage sacrament 🙏