How to Install Smart Smoke and CO Detectors | Ask This Old House
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Ask This Old House master electrician Scott Caron installs smart smoke and carbon monoxide detectors.
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Cost: $120 per device
Skill Level: Moderate
Tools List for Installing Smart Smoke and CO Detectors:
Cell phone
Flathead screwdriver
Shopping List:
Smart smoke and carbon monoxide detectors
Wire nuts
Steps:
1. Before any electrical work, always shut the power off at the main breaker.
2. Program each smoke and CO detector following the instructions via the app. You can label each one by room description (kitchen, living room, etc.)
3. Remove the old smoke detector from the ceiling with a flathead screwdriver. Hold on to the screws to reuse for the new plates.
4. Cap the existing interconnect wire with a wire nut as it will no longer be needed.
5. Connect the pigtail provided by the manufacturer to the house’s power supply. Cover with a wire nut.
6. Install the new mounting plate to the electrical box using the flathead screwdriver and the existing screws.
7. Plug the smoke and CO detector in, then snap it into the mounting bracket.
8. Repeat for all rooms in the house.
9. Turn the power back on and test each device using the “test” button.
Resources:
Scott installed the Nest Protect smart smoke and carbon monoxide detectors manufactured by Nest (nest.com ), and available at home centers and through their website.
All the other materials for this project, including the wire nuts and the flathead screwdriver, can be purchased at most home centers and electrical supply houses.
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How to Install Smart Smoke and CO Detectors | Ask This Old House
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He scorched it with the match.
It's not a smart smoke detector until it understands me when I shout "Shut up! I'm just cooking!"
Orion Fyre lol, I wish that was the case nowadays
Orion Fyre LOL
It's called using the silence button on your phone :)
Orion Fyre.
Don't understand what you mean, please clarify
"It was chirping so we just removed it" *proceeds to spend $1000 on new smart detectors when all they needed was a $2 battery replacement*
Would you pay like $6 a month to get the smoke alarm notification on the google home app when your google speaker detects smoke alarm sound or get the google nest protect smoke and co alarm for $120 each.
Didn’t you see the expiration date you moron . It’s clearly way out of use . Of course a new battery would’ve fixed if it wasn’t for an OUTDATED smoke .
@@Movepsbox3 Spending $1000 for this is idiotic. I replaced them for about $150 with CO and Smoke detectors.
@@khha4113 no not really just people who work hard and have a good living can afford having this.
@@khha4113 bro ur goofy it’s worth the price get a life bro
The homeowner has this look of absolute terror the entire episode
She looks stoned
I have 5 Nest Protect gen 2 units in our home. They were $120 each. If they last for 10 years, we'd be happy with that. They connect with our Nest Cams and Nest Thermostats and provide alerts to our mobile devices no matter where we are in the world.
IMO, it's cheap peace of mind for excellent performance and features.
It's also better than paying $6 a month for a security feature on google home speakers that detects either glass breaking or smoke alarm sounds. With the nest protect, pays you back in 20 months.
man thats great...$1000 to fit a house made of wood of Smart Smoke and CO Detectors
OmniShield is the Best bet !!!!
@@iloveglobalwarminggodbless5059 actually its 10 years you just need to put new batteries in every 3
I have Nest Protect detectors also, and they are legit awesome. They are nice enough to tell you where the problem is, which was really awesome when I had a CO issue. I was able to find the source quickly because it told me which detector tripped instead of them all just screeching.
So a carbon monoxide detector is fine on the ceiling because it's made by Google? I thought they were closer to the floor as CO is a heavy gas
On every level of your home. In order to ensure that your home has maximum protection, it's important to have a CO detector on every floor. Five (5) feet from the ground or lower. Carbon monoxide detectors can get the best reading of your home's air when they are placed five feet from the ground. You will be long gone by the time the heavy carbine monoxide gas is up to the ceiling. Plus you should have a smoke detector is every bedroom.
you wrote this 3 months ago. 2 years ago, someone else wrote this: ruclips.net/video/714NB7CVrpA/видео.html&lc=Ugyt6eUD7XYYVrWfwmd4AaABAg
That's false…Carbon Monoxide is lighter than air. Please don't spread false information without tipple checking epically if it's about safety.
CO at 5 feet is because that is about head level for average person. Since it is lighter than air ceiling works as well
Thanks for the video , I didn't know that this unit has expiration date
You’re internet modem has an end of life
Chop chop get to it!
Should we be adding “smart technology “ to our 1806 renovation? Is it worth it.
Thanks for standing up for us home inspectors. Lol
I call replacment of any detector if it doesnt have a date of expiry. Better safe then sorry.
Ya i have a canned comment about smoke detectors being replaced every ten years and since age is unknown to go ahead and replace. Still i appreciate him stating that homeowners do have some responsibilities believe it or not.
Home inspectors are like any other profession, be it doctors, lawyers, auto mechanics... There's some good ones and some bad ones. Except for car dealers, they're all bad. LOL
if you want to test the smoke sensor of the nest smoke/carbon monoxide detector use a test can
It's chirping so we removed it 😂 wooooow 😑
Josh B A lot of people do, it’s very annoying. Then you quick fix the problem and forget about it for months. Bad situation.
That’s a potential Darwin Award. I want to see you crying on the street in front of your house while the flames are whirling out of the windows 👍😉 If you even get out on time without alarm.
Just so you know, most modern alarms have a silence button to stop the chirping and false alarms
this is why smoke alarms need rechargable batteries that charge off the house AC circuit and have the chirp mean to replace the entire unit (end of service life)
since some alarms use the same chirp to indicate low battery AND end of service life (if the model chirps for that)
man i miss the old days with the pillow and fanning the smoke detector because someone lost track cooking dinner... lol
I need a detector that can detect which detectors I have installed and haven't detected that I have.
If you take your alarm down and find it needs replacing don't be the type that says "I'll do that tomorrow" or "I'll get to it eventually". That's exactly what the father of a firefighter on a department here in my county did (the firefighter's father was a former firefighter himself). He went to the hardware store and bought brand new detectors and batteries to replace the old ones and put them on the kitchen counter and went to bed. That night a fire occurred which killed him and the rest of the family barely survived after being rescued and were suffering from severe smoke inhalation. He knew better than to do that but did it anyway and it unfortunately cost him his life. I implore you, please don't make the same mistake that he did. Take care of it the very day it becomes a problem.
It seems that many people don’t understand that the Nest Protect will still function even in a power outage or wifi outage. Also Scott was incorrect in saying that it uses both ionization and photoelectric - Nest uses only photoelectric.
Really? My lowes app says it uses both
I had my alarm company install these so they would be monitored. The smoke also has high heat and freeze detect as well. Vivint.
Kinda makes sense these expire...after all depending on what method they use the bit of radioactive material in them is bound to decompose completely eventually
Hanro50 americium-241, which is used in ionization smoke detector has a half-life of 432.2 years,I don’t think it stage radioactive material is the cause of the short lifespan, I believe it is about the corrosion of the alarm, buzzer,and the ionization detector itself. I thought the same thing as you until I did some deep researching
As soon as he mentions technical stuff all these people look like rabbits in the headlights.
Will Ford j
"...Ok..." - their responses
HAHA
Its not complicated at all and I think everyone should have basic electrical skills and understanding.
These are the nest protect
"OK, sounds good, just as long as those things Never make any noise..."
I saw the nest thermostat, was there really any doubt that he would hook her up with a nest protect?
Pootislord They connect to each other by default. I have both the thermostat and a bunch of protectst. The setting to turn off the heat if the co2 alarm triggers was on already without my intervention. Not that i use combustion to heat my house at all. Burning gas is outdated.
We're deep in the Google/Nest ecosystem. When a Protect unit detects smoke, it has all the units in the house alarm, turns off the heat or AC, starts recording nearby cameras, and alerts all mobile devices on the account, anywhere in the world.
This "active" system also qualifies for a discount for many home insurance policies.
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto ;
Same here, except I don't have the setting on the Nest thermostat to shut down the furnace when the Nest Protects detect smoke, but only for CO.
And unfortunately my security cameras are by ring. So they're not really compatible and won't automatically communicate with Nest products.
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto I have been looking into doing the whole ecosystem... are you still happy with yours?
Her expression is like "sorry maam, you have a terminal illness"
Shut up goofy
thank you for sharing this video !!!
4:47 You said you’re going to tie with existing screws
Never seen that testing method before
Dam near melted the plastic off the unit, lol!
So if your WiFi is out these don't communicate? Power outage + candle = fire. Happens all the time. This seems like a weakness of these types of units. Also aren't CO detectors supposed to be mounted low? Nice to have a combo unit but this seem like a potential issue as well.
You seriously think that the engineers didn't think of that? You do know there's people in this world that are smarter than you, right?
David Navarre They use a different wireless standard (802.15.4) to connect to each other.
The wifi connection is used to connect the detectors to your phone and to the internet for software updates and to notify you if something happens when you're not at home.
They should be low mounted in the lowest floor of the house. Because CO is heavier than air. Unfortunetly most code does not acknowledge this issue which is very dumb imho.
Boris If someone moves through a room, or opens a door, lower concentrations of the gas in early stages of leakage probably gets whirled around and then triggers the alarm. But you have a point. Though i think fire is a greater risk than co2. So i will keep them on the ceiling.
then that means smoke/carbon hybrid detectors should be banned since that means mounting one in the ideal position for one hazard, puts it in an incorrect spot for the other hazard
Do they know it’s bleebing because the battery needs changed
Do they still do whole Home renovation projects / shows? I've seen about all of the ones on RUclips
I really love this show.
Ike Costner New season just started on tv two weeks ago. They are doing a late 1800s house remodel near Boston.
BlackSmokeDMax name of the project?
Not sure if there is "title" for the project, but the first episode is this:
S39 E1 'A House for the Next Generation'
Excellent product!
Lol, i remember catching my child's mother in a lie because of that "chirp chirp"
So... your wife?
At one time I lived in a H.U.D. Building, once a year the county would send someone over and they would whip out a spray can et spray Merde on the S.A. Just like smoke it set off the S.A. I asked the H.U.D. person where I could obtain a can of that Merde? She refused to tell moi! Will anyone answer the question she would not? In the event tu/vous can not turn off the circuit breaker or unscrew the fuse, could one wear silicone gloves?
6:31 DING DING DING Heads up, there’s smoke in the Family Room, the alarm will sound BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
Press to silence
The alarm may* sound
How come they never mention the ground wire? I have a smoke alarm that has one bare copper wire for grounding but it is not connected to anything. Cancer?
Cancer
I looked at Nest detectors, but am just wondering - In a fire if your Wi-Fi router catches fire and is no longer functioning does the interconnect STILL work... Hmmmm...
Defending The Kingdom yes it uses its own network to communicate with eachother, WiFi is only used to connect to your phone and such
Popmas in amazon sells a wall mount /ceiling standing can hidden line,it's great
I always install the basic photoelectric & ionization detectors. I also like to install vintage smoke detectors with the new ones as it seems older units work better than new ones.
Please help me my smoke alarm has been replaced 4 of them and I need 4 of them in every room please
Ok what's your address, I'll come over.
good job
Some of the comments below are valid, some are just jerks being themselves.
My question is do these work if your WIFI is down?
They mesh network directly to one another without the wifi to trigger the whole alarm
HELLO ITS ME. I KNOW YOU KNOW ME. LOOK AT MY USERNAME. YOUR DAUGHTER IS GOING TO HATE THOSE LOUD NOISES😂😂
Yah you are so right lol. This is Ava lol
Which noises
$120? I’ve got 10 smoke detectors in my house.
How could you possibly need that many? Even a 5 bedroom house shouldn't need more than 7 or 8.
Houses may have a lot more rooms than just bedrooms. Especially older houses, and it could be in every room..
1200$ to save your many tonnes worth of house. I wouldn’t even doubt about it. But if it’s too much for you, just the old fashion 20$ smoke alarms are there still too. Getting alarmed at all is priority 1, that it is a Nest is just luxury extra.
Nest protect is like $99 not $120
@@Kirby7601
In 2017, it sold for full msrp, which is $120. This msrp is still stated on their site.
store.google.com/us/product/nest_protect_2nd_gen
Deer in the headlights look lol
The woman appears to be terrified of everything.
Nah ur just goofy bro they are normal
How did we get to the point where homeowners trust home inspectors more than licensed, insured electrical professionals?? Nest products are really nice but expensive as you can see. Kiddie makes a new product with a lithium battery that's expected to last 10-years. They come in both smoke and smoke- carbon combinations. My customers love them.
Most likely because inspectors can give you a general idea of a homes quality for a few hundred bucks. With your logic they would have to hire an electrician at at least $100 an hour, then a roofing contractor, then a structural engineer, then a plumber, so on and so on. You see the reason?
Thanks for uploading this! I’ve been waiting literally ages by the way. Also first jk
what happens if the wifi is out?
You'll never know because you burned to death. Shrodingers smoke detector.
Yea boiii nest protect
Nice house
yeah it is a nice home!!!
it's very good, just expensive. and how about if the fire damaged the wifi router?...O oooo
They do not connect via wifi. They connect via radio waves.
I am a professional installer. It is true that unless you have a tool that can check the if detector is working in its nominal state you have to replace it after 10 years.
And carbon dioxide detectors need to be placed at a height of 1.4 to 1.5 meters against the wall and not on the ceiling!
Price
In my house I am pull stations and strobe lights
If smoke detectors expire in 10 years, and CO detectors expire in 3-5 years, why would you combine them?
Rich person house.
This video is unlisted.
anyone ever seen the video for this where it's going crazy? I think it was at a google employees house.
Not too loud for me
Like amigo brasileiro
I dont need no more wifi crap. Just make sure it works 100 percent of the time.
Guess AMAZON doesn't like the Military. Just like so many other products. DOES NOT SHIP TO APO addresses. APO is a Military address. I've complained to Amazon. You should to. thank. This is a safety product that can save lives.
The old smoke arms are now 24 years old yikes😮
Fast and Furious 25!
Dom's life goes downhill
Lol. He looks like a skinny vin diesel
I don’t even have one
i thought this was a tool to find good weed in CO
JustLetMeDrive 😂😂😂 i dont smoke but its funny btw
Home inspections are highly underwhelming and often inaccurate.
S
interconnected smokes are so annoying
Mm
$1000 on google smoke detectors.
Everytime you get a false CO reading your furnace turns off. NOPE
If your nest protect senses CO and you have a nest thermostat, it will shut off the furnace
Flat Top 😂
tell that to whoever made the fire alarm auto-call the fire department, a false alarm would not only waste tax dollars for a pointless response, but also incurr penalties
This cost a fortune. Those devices are not cheap.
At lease you get what it deserves, it is worth every dollar
If you can't find the phone you're royally phooked.
nah if you press the nest logo it acts as a reset button
And burn the smoke detector at the same time
iOT fire detectors are always a bad bad thing.
1st you don't want a computer running an unpatched Linux 24/7 on your network.
2nd if the detector's CPU freezes up you would never know.
3rd don't expect the devices to work on your smartphone (or work at all) for more than a few years as iOT devices' support gets dumped very frequently.
4th privacy privacy privacy, you don't want to broadcast 24/7 who's in each room to a remote server. A compromised device can turn a speaker into a mike.
You want fire detectors to be as dumb as they can, link them together with a wire so that they can go off together but that's about it.
Simple means they always work.
necro but:
thankfully the actual detector components are still dumb, the computer part sits on top of that, to operate the silence/test button, to warn you when it's about to go off, etc. so it'll still sound an alarm if it's locked up in some execution loop, it'll just sound without warning you first. and you'll have to press the button to turn it off instead of doing it by your phone.
i do agree about point 1, which is why i put all such devices (not that i have nest) on their own vlan, one vlan per device. they get to see the wan to phone home and do their server stuff but they don't get on the main lan.
good point about the speaker/mic thing, though i have to wonder if software alone can achieve that in this case. certainly, i've made headphones work as a shitty mic before, but i still had to plug them into the mic port, i couldn't do it by plugging into the headphone port. so i suppose the question is, is the amplifier integrated enough into the chipset that one could do that kind of a swap? if someone had physical access to your device, well sure, they could be listening in. but anyone with physical access to your devices can pwn you anyway, a thousand ways.
This guy is NOT as smart as you may think. I'm looking at my new smoke detector's manual and it says, "Never use an open flame to test your smoke detector and instead use the button on the smoke detector to test with". Come on... This Old House - I thought you knew everything??? WTF
I think they are trying to protect people from starting their own fires with open flames, who knows?
I called UL because I was curious. A quote from them- “fires are not to be used to test any residential, commercial, industrial, or institutional smoke, fire, or carbon monoxide detector unless expressly written in the devices specified manual due to the risk of the tester starting a fire in their own residence”
Good job, this confirms what my manual says. I figured the main reason they don't want people using an open flame was due to the risk of starting their own fire. There could be a residual reason that the smoke could affect the sensors long-term effectiveness.
It's more likely just for the company to protect itself against any liability if someone sets fire to their home.
If it doesn't actually cause any harm to the device, I see no reason why an experienced worker couldn't use it to test the function "realistically"
She looks scared
I just wanted her to lower her eyebrows. How can you talk to someone with a wild look on their face? This dude is a good actor.
Shut up bro
@@Bob_Lob_Law bro it’s a normal look ur name is. Bob get a life goofy
This guy is selling you wolf tickets. , the average smoke detector last 7 years, newer models last for 10 years. Not 3
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inb4 someone finds an exploit for these and uses them to spy on you.
why the hell did she remove it, she should have replaced the f*cking battery.
She want a smart one, as said in the video. Also please no profanity.
@@BukuiZhao This was a year ago and I don't swear anymore
It was beeping in the middle of the night because you need to replace the batt. you DOLT!
I'm pretty good with reading faces. Watch this guy Scott. Be careful of him.
Don't let him near matches. Did you see him scorch her new detector?
And what it even a few fresh new batteries doesnt silence the chirp?
1:45 The BAD news is that these units expire. I would start by looking for the Expiration Date on the back. If you are within the date and it shows the unit should still be good, Reset the unit according to the instructions. You can google your device for the instructions. I just had to do mine after I watched this show. BTW, I am referring to my Kidde Carbon Monoxide Alarm.