I completely forgot to add an Amanda Waller segment in this video. On the surface, she would be team registration. Luthor would of course know her to be an ambitious woman who is also, not found of superhero's or metahumans in gerneral. This won't exactly be a win for Luthor as he doesn't completely trust her or her motivations. Keeping tabs on her movements would be a top priority. I also have an idea that she would be secretly feeding info to Batman and the rebels. However, Batman knows better than to believe that this is out of good faith or even the possiblity that she is masking the information. Instead of the full truth she only offers 70% but treats it like 100%. She has her own plans of course. Both sides need to be cautious.
I was thinking of Cadmus being part of this as in Justice league Unlimited they hated the heroes with a passion and I thought of others taking advantage of this Civil War like Penguin wanting to exploit it as he could continue on his crime operations and I could imagine him being Vice President or Governor of Gotham as he was being Mayor is some medias and also Ares as he is the God of War after all.
I wonder what My Hero Academia characters would think about such a civil war. Of course most if not all of the Pro Heroes and students are going to side with the Pro-Registration side. They’ve lived with such a system and it’s worked for the most part. Naturally the Villains will be on the Anti-Registration side which probably would disturb the superheroes on that side. However a number of Heroes would no doubt feel sympathetic to the Anti-Registration side. Deku and Shoto have more than enough experience bending or even breaking the rules on using powers to save their friends with the latter being angered when it seemed like they were going to get punished for stopping Stain while the former eventually left his class behind to fight a one-man war against the Villains. Bakugo may also feel restricted by rules given his temper. Still when push comes to shove, these guys believe more in reforming the system for the better instead of just tearing the whole thing down and starting over. Meanwhile the Villains would hate Pro-Registration because it would feel too much like the current Hero System in MHA. But most besides Stain would be annoyed by how even the rebelling superheroes still act like heroes instead of supervillains.
I feel like a villain that would join the government would be Mister Freeze, having taken a deal with Lex to sign the registration act in exchange for saving Nora
Wonder Woman I feel would feel even more strongly about anti-registration than even Batman or Green Arrow. She's an Amazonian from Themyscira and would therefore feel that laws created in man's world should not dictate how she goes about her heroics.
Well... she's also all about that diplomacy. I think she'd be the best for peaceful negotiations between the two sides being that she comes from a society that has certain beliefs and she knows what alienation can ultimately lead to. So, it makes more sense that Oliver and Bats would have more invested being that they grew up in Earth society. Diana is an immigrant she grew up with her sisters on the island. She cares but her care is more objective due to her being able to look at these events from an outsider perspective somewhat.
Technically she has diplomatic immunity anyway. Same with Aquaman. The only thing they could do is deport her. That’s how Dr doom gets away with his actions. They can’t legally touch him.
@@glowhoo9226 and Aquaman actually is the boss or co-boss of Atlantis (depending on the day Aquaman and Mera just rotate the final decision on politics meanwhile depending on the timeline Aquaboy just wonders why they don't just go stop sea pirates or something while Tempest, Tula, Lagoon Boy and Dolphin are babysitting.)
I think a good reasoning for Superman to join the Registration act is because Superman has seen the amounts of civilian casualties and collateral damage due to superheroes fighting supervillains. He has participated a bit in it himself without wanting to. Superman feels responsible for the people who died because he wasn’t able to save them. Similar to Man Of Steel Superman had a fight with a supervillain that levelled the city. Jimmy Olsen was caught in the crossfire and Superman grieves his best friend’s death. Lex Luthor proposes this superhero registration act and personally asks Clark to join. Lex wants to better the world and knows that fighting Superman isn’t the way to do it after years of it. He still doesn’t like Superman but he knows that cooperating with him will be easier than going against him.
I feel like young Heroes like Tim Drake, Impulse and Static would sort of Lead a somewhat of a resisstence where only young people are allowed to join and they would basically do they're own thing.
I feel the same way the kid heroes and anyone younger would be like "yeah no we are not getting in between you too." Actually, all the Titans, imo would go off somewhere together and do their own thing.
I feel like this should be the case all the way upto Dick grayson’s generation. Its really only between Batman & Supermans generation and maybe the older dudes like Jay Garrick etc
I like the idea that near the end, when compromise is in sight, lex luthor does the kidnapping plan to force Superman to keep going down a path he doesn't agree with anymore.
I definetly agree that the change makes a lot of difference. The initial idea was too clear cut in whos right and whos wrong, which I feel is what went south in the second Marvel Civil War.
Great change on lex not capturing Superman’s family and being more of a “good” guy. Makes the story much more compelling and believable (in the old story I couldn’t buy that Batman wouldn’t almost immediately figure out lex’s plan)
Waller and Deathstroke are just there. I don't think any discussion would need to be done, Waller, Deathstroke, Suicide Squad, and maybe Sinestro are the black ops of the Registration faction. Thinking about it further, I think virtually any villain they do recruit would probably just be given the Suicide Squad treatment and enrolled into an expanded version of the group. Almost like a Janissary corps of supervillains.
i cant imagine cyborg willingly going against superman and becoming a fugitive, either. and something tells me that he wouldn't exactly function well as a normal human being unfortunately in our society
A good improvement I think. In this universe I’d have it that Lex & Superman were once child hood friends to sell them getting along better here & working together. Martian Manhunter would eventually be the Flash’s main man seeking a middle ground I’d guess. It’d be interesting if Superboy or Supergirl don’t side with SM because they could never forgive Lex for his past actions though. They think Clark is being naive trusting him.
I think as much as Nightwing loves Superman, for all of Batman's faults, he is a Batman loyalist. I can see Batman sending Nightwing in as a spy in Superman's registration team and using Dick's hero worship as a great cover. This could be an #7-#8 plot twist or something?
Just throwing in an idea what if you had Static Shock (He could be consider a top tier teen superhero in your verse) join Superman's side and have him pull a spiderman and reveal his identity because you can make it that in the Darkseid invasion his family got hurt/almost died, at the end of the day he wants to keeps his family safe. And maybe Black Lighting could give him so advice or convince him to join Superman's side Also I think it be a fun making Flash being the middle man like Trinity constantly convincing Flash to join their side (Because while DC Fandom and Flash himself don't know it, he's pretty much the 4th statue in that mount rushmoore of DC hereos) and Flash is just torn because these 3 are his good friends then maybe join Superman in Vol 3. Just an idea
Are we using Wally or Barry or both here? I feel like that's the deciding factor in this. Superman should be for. Batman against. Wonder Woman- both sides have merit. Barry has been shown to fall in line with Bruce ultimately. Wally has also been hinted to ultimately make similar decisions to Diana going with whatever she feels best at the end of the day...which her thinking ultimately does fall in line with Clark's...and Wally's admitted such as well...and why not both Wally West and Wonder Woman are Double W's.
I personally can't see Nightwing being on the registration. Not to say he couldn’t be written that way for YOUR stories sake. Also, YOUR story has a great foundation! Keep it going bro!
Honestly i liked your first idea better I mean about how superman joined lex Luthor but I still liked this one and how you teamed them up and said how they would join but the way Superman joins lex I think I like the first one better great video tho I would love to see more content 👍
Let me start by saying I love this idea and premise that you are giving for a possible DC Civil War concept. The second is I could probably see this being split off into two other videos for both teams sides when it comes to the villains aspect of this because in the original marvel Civil War Tony had to utilize the thunderbolts in order to bolster his ranks and even some of the villains coming to captain America’s side so I could definitely see this happening for the same reason between both Batman and Superman depending on how desperate Batman really is to work with villains that he would normally capture.
I honestly would like to see Hal initially be apart of the registration but have cost city be a victim of the darkside war and use him as the focus on why the registration would happen
I'm loving this series/story! I'm not the most familiar with most of these characters, but this just seems like such a cool story, and I can't wait for more!
Nightwing being on Superman's side took me by surprise, but your idea of him being on bad terms with Bruce and being close with Superman does add some nuance, and makes his choice an opening for interesting drama, especially within the Batfamily.
I kinda like the idea of Batman being pro registration myself. Because think about it, Batman follows the rules to a T in not killing Joker or other chacthwrs who deserve it and no one would bat an eye at. Compared to Superman, who, while yes, doesn't want kill, will if it saves the greater world at hand. Like Doomsday or Darksied. It also goes hand and hand eith Clarks farm boy but ultimately doing what he believes is right which means breaking the rules if it most be broken but Batman would always follow the rules unless it invilves killing someone. But thats just my thoughts. I'd kinda like to see Superman as an underground resistance type of team rather than Batman it would be a nice change of pace. But that's just me. Id be interested in seeing that type of senerio. Nice video, tho.
Batman has never followed the rules. He breaks laws all the time as a vigilante which is why initially the GCPD wanted to arrest him. He's breaking and entering, stealing evidence, going over the speed limit, hacking private and government databases etc.
my teams would be: team blue (rebel): batman flash shazam (from a heel turn) basically all the bat family (barb and dick might join team red later on). aquaman constantine green lanterns team red (registration): superman wonder woman red tornado martian manhunter super family (maybe kon will join team blue just for balance sake). yellow lanterns i'll add more if i think of any.
Another banger! The fact that the only cosistent element that i, plus other viewers, disagree with you is your distaste for Lois Lane, shows how good your content is and how creative and knowledgeable you are when it comes to DC as a whole. Major props!
Love it, and the change. Because the family thing i agree wouldn't make sense for superman either. Also i feel having flash as the Spider-Man character is perfect. I also feel Batman would be like Nick Fury in the Marvel Alliance game trying to figure out the purpose of all this
I like the idea of Flash eventually being a mediator- I think if this was Wally (with Barry choosing not to participate because he still wants to protect Iris or he’s just lost in the Speedforce whichever), him and Nightwing would both be sort of independents because they know their mentors too well to be completely loyal to them like they were as kids but also realize that they are better together and this argument is ultimately pointless - I feel like Manhunter and Billy will eventually come to the same conclusion The thought of Luthor having an audience and agreement with the Guardians is a really cool one I could see that being a pivotal point in the story where everyone realizes how serious things are becoming
Swamp Thing and Dr Fate wouldn’t give a damn about these issues. I see Deathstroke joining the government as a hunter of sorts, specifically hired to track Batman down after he steps down from his role as leader of the rebellion.
I think hal and john should be switched since hal is much more gun ho and head strong compared to john and is more up to disobey orders from the guardians then john. John also seemed more corps focused then hal. Hal would also be joining when batman is no longer leading which helps since they never got along. John being registered and hal being rebeal makes more sense in my opinion
I do like the idea of Luthor becoming president because he legitimately thinks he can do it better than anyone and he just wants to get the country/ world out of the tough time. I like the hero version of luthor with the villain past. A lot to work with there
Only thing I’d change about this story. Lex Luthor has never been a villain, not openly at least. Becoming president and starting the registration is his big evil plan where he reveals himself by the end.
Also Unrelated but do you think that its Impulse's turn to take on the mantle of the Flash? he become the Flash but it was only for a short while. I feel like you can tell really interesting stories with Bart as the main Flash with Barry or Wally having seemingly retired/die and it could explore themes of Legacy and whether or not Bart wants to continue the Legacy of the Flash and if thats what he really wants. He could operate in Central City like Barry did (or any other city that isnt Keystone and Central) and he should be able to get his own villains besides Inertia who's basically his Reverse-Flash. oh and I would make Killer Frost one of his villains it kills me that in some adaptations she's portrayed as a Flash villain yet she barely was in the comics. he can also be the Flash in Highschool or College and sort of be like Spider-Man and have his own version of the Clone Saga with Speedsters. and I'd make him a Teen Titan again.
In my mind, if there were a registration in the DC universe, it would be Superman as anti-registration, Wonder Woman as pro-registration, and Batman as the middle ground at the beginning. Then he may pick a side as the story progresses. As for the lanterns, I just can't see Hal as pro-registration while John as anti-registration, switch sides with each others maybe.
In my version, it's the Superman's Death arc. Superman (similarly to BvS) is killed by Doomsay and Lex Luthor. The four supermen arrive, each vying to become President Luthor's second in command. The villains like Eradicator and Cyborg Superman are going for it for their own gain. Supergirl and Steel are trying to take it to keep the villains in check. This power imbalance leaves conflict in Superman's wake, which also provides some necessary cracks for Batman and the other undergrounders to slip through.
I think in order for the whole Nightwing thing to work, Superman would have to make him his #2 from the very beginning. I also feel Wonder Woman wouldn't want any involvement in either side and choose to protect her people. The Amazons would probably have to be attacked for her to jump in.
Superman feeling guilty for what happened to the world is very good option.. He thinks if he wasn't here Darkseid wouldn't come to Earth but he can't see i he wasn't here darkseid would have tear Earth Apart, in this could be the arc.. Batman trying to show him he wasn't the reason but a protector of Earth..
I think nightwing would at the end join Batman and the question on looking into the registration in the background, kinda like in young justice with the light. He would be kind of a mole and when found out would go back to Batman and they would berry the hatchet. This would also I think serve as a moment for Superman to reflect, cause I feel like nightwing would be kind of voice of reason for supes. Idk just a thought.
I think a DC Civil War doesn't necessarily have to be about a registration act, and I actually think something like Civil War 2 or Tower of Babel would be more appropriate for DC. The League are so independent that even with a force pushing them into registration they'd generally oppose it, and find another way. But presenting them a new way to fight crime that's morally ambiguous would be a much more interesting way to split these characters. What if Lex, while imprisoned, finds a way to build a machine that can detect violent thoughts and presents it to Batman. They essentially would be destroying people's privacy, and even if controlled, would be working with a guilty till proven innocent approach to crime. But Batman, knowing that if this would've existed would've stopped his parents murder, attempts to control it and Lex. Meanwhile Superman, who believes in the good within all people, can see how it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy, and how people will lose their freedom to choose to do what's right. Everyone can then have a reasonable stance, taking sides in a difficult conflict where there's no clear right answer. I imagine it would also be a much slower burn than the original Civil War, with Superman and the League trying to work with/persuade Batman at the start, before things lead to violence
You need to make an explanation to how the registration would affect the Teen Titans. Lex would undoubtedly target them. He couldn’t get them to register because they’re minors but he would make some super juvenile hall to keep them locked in
5:46 (spoiler alert for like a newish DC comic) I find that kind of funny because in this new comic Amanda Waller takes away superheroes powers with amazo bots and Green arrow is actually helping her take down the heroes and is working with the government cuz in his eyes superhero stopped looking out for the little guy so he wants to stop them or something like that so I think he would side with the government if it was in his best interest as a hero
Id have shazam switch to rebels, realising that despite superman being a good person, he hasnt made the right decision. This id make because billy batson may be harassed by media and other's in his child form and would want to protect it in the end as in the end he is still a child
Big disagree with Nightwing and Starfire. I can see your reasoning for Nightwing but I don’t think friendship with Superman would be enough. It’s Starfire that I simply can’t see being for registration because she spent so much of her early life struggling for agency and independence.
I would for sure make it so that lex luther seems to be turning in a new leaf. Have him do something major like actually save metropolis from a trash economy and maybe even have him save Superman's wife or kid, to really show Supes hes serious, maybe during the Darkseid attack.. We've seen that superman will not trust lex luther even though he does a lot of good so he needs to do even more good than usual.. I'd also see WW, among others, just saying "screw either side" and going home, kind of like the XMen in Marvel's Cival War, WW in particular I could see just staying home, seeing the conflict as Man's problem. Some of the Lantern Core I feel like might stay out of it too, being constricted by Owa to not be allowed to take a side outside of alien attack. I'm not sure about Power girl, but in the movies I've seen her in, she's a straight up government agent, with supergirl being more anti government, since the same people the cloned her are team Lex.
If you really want to make it interesting then have Bruce become President. Have Congress pass registration act, President Wayne vetoes the bill, Congress overrides the veto. This would make DC Comics` Civil War: The Justice League vs We the People.
Love most of this! You've really done a great job. I completely disagree on Green Arrow, though. He's a self-proclaimed "old lefty," meaning left-wing, liberal, etc. That's not a knock on his character, but even in the current absolute power event, he's siding with Waller. I definitely think he'd be pre-registration and pro government control.
Id love to see a whole side story of that Flash storyline. Kind of like secret wars. It would be so awesome seeing the Flash recruit Tim Drake and Nightwing as a small rag tag team trying to end the war. Would occasionally run into Batman who in his current state would not hesitate to incapacitate Flash or Nightwing if in his way. Could finally give Tim the respect his character deserves in a story like this.
While Superman would do anything to protect his loved ones (he'd become Lex's puppy if he has to, like in BVS: Dawn of Justice), he'd also do anything for the good of all, like with how he helped Lex get a pardon for his crimes just so the Justice League would have a bit of advantage against the Justice Lords. Superman hates Luthor, but not to the point of killing. Luthor is not Darkseid. That said, if we go with the Darkseid invasion as the pretext of this DC supes registration act, Superman would probably work with Luthor out of his own guilt over his poor handling of the affair. Sure, Supes might be amenable to working with Luthor...but I don't think Luthor would be amenable to working with Superman, considering he'd only negotiate when absolutely driven to a corner, and will always screw anyone and everyone over when on a position of strength. If anything, Luthor would put Superman to jail and have someone like Captain Atom be America's new boy scout. Heck, maybe Shazam can then join Captain Atom as the first underling of Captain Atom's own Justice League.
Didn't Oracle once work for Waller when she first became Oracle? Kinda feels off to have her in opposite sides to Black Canary and Nightwing. But then again they both seam likely to join and Batman's side does need a hacker
@@seansilv25 I was curious, as I was wondering if he would be doing it to get in good graces, whilst subverting everyone and doing some tertiary villiany of his own
I don't know if you've ever considered making a video like this, but I'd really like to know what you think a Marvel comics version of the Watchmen would be like.
I'd love to see spin-off comics focusing on individual characters and how they'd deal with this. My personal picks would be; Aquaman: Arthur using loopholes and threats of war to avoid the registration and taking power away from Luthor. "I'm not a superhero, I'm a foreign sovereign, and those tankers are on the ocean. My territory." Blue Beetle/Captain Atom: Jaime and Nathaniel would absolutely be heroes who'd need handlers to decide power output and weapons that can be used. Captain Atom can only use certain forms of radiation, and Jaime can only use certain weapons under their handlers orders. I'd like to think Jaime would accidentally use a new weapon, and Captain Atom would see him drowning in paperwork after a minor misshap with it. Being tough, but still a nice person, he'd build up a rapport with the kid; taking him to a restaurant for a break or teaching him how to better use his powers. When blue beetle leaves the registration, we see Nathanial waver from the government for what could be the first time in his life. He fights Jaime later, but holds back, telling Superman he got away. Powergirl/Green Arrow: Another sort of teaching one. Power girl has never been the most subtle hero, but now with the registrations in place, she can't even fight in broad daylight. Not wanting to trust batman about it because she'd think he'd just probe her for more weaknesses on superman, Green arrow goes to her to give her some pointers on just how to be subtle; how to do espionage and quickly make on-the-fly civillian identities. Eventually, Black Canary starts getting worried about rumours about them and brings it up in a fight with Ollie.
I think that's why I would have her against registration. Even though she works with her father and the GCPD she doesn't agree with all rules of the law. She has gone out of her way to be a Vigilante (which is illegal) to handle things the government can't or in ways it won't.
Would there be any deaths? Like on both side with both sides doing the killings? Either accidental or not. Also how much in universe time would pass? like the sorta start would be maybe be about a little before the Darkside war and the ending the end of the Civil war. I would prefer years like the Darkside war was maybe a week to some months then a little side story of the rise of lex that takes like a year maybe? Then some months to set up the reg then like a month for the initial teams to form then a year of gearing up and sorta soft fighting just arguing and sometimes coming to blows, but nothing huge then the real fighting happens and goes on for like Six years. So in my head you start with the setup of 3 years Darkside war/clean up/rise of lex 6 years of fighting progressively getting more lethal then 1 year of calming down both sides getting tired of fighting then like 1 year of trying to find compromise/finale big fight/superhero moment then like a epilogue so like 12/13 years for the whole thing. Like you can have the epilogue be about the kids that were raised during the Civil War, and how that affects them because most of them would be 13 to 16 by the end. I’d like it if the whole Civil War from start to finish no matter how it ends to be morally ambiguous no side could objectively say there side were morally superior. Just thought to give you some ideas and suggestions this seems like an interesting project so good luck and sorry for the long comment.
I think cyborg and aquaman would be anti registration. I think cyborg wouldn’t sign it as he would want to be on the same side as power girl raven and his best friend beast boy and his mentor batman. i don’t remember and know a lot about aquaman but from what i remember the government had some role to play in his parents death i believe. that may be wrong but if it’s right i doubt he’d sign the registration act
I agree with both members on each side especially Batman’s team but if they continue fighting would half of his team get arrested without due process and if you are continuing this I suggest about having being brought in like in Marvel with Team Ironman? 5:15 Speaking of T.M.M do you ever think of a possible future for them being together as a Husband and Wife duo possibly having children?
I completely forgot to add an Amanda Waller segment in this video. On the surface, she would be team registration. Luthor would of course know her to be an ambitious woman who is also, not found of superhero's or metahumans in gerneral. This won't exactly be a win for Luthor as he doesn't completely trust her or her motivations. Keeping tabs on her movements would be a top priority. I also have an idea that she would be secretly feeding info to Batman and the rebels. However, Batman knows better than to believe that this is out of good faith or even the possiblity that she is masking the information. Instead of the full truth she only offers 70% but treats it like 100%. She has her own plans of course. Both sides need to be cautious.
I was thinking of Cadmus being part of this as in Justice league Unlimited they hated the heroes with a passion and I thought of others taking advantage of this Civil War like Penguin wanting to exploit it as he could continue on his crime operations and I could imagine him being Vice President or Governor of Gotham as he was being Mayor is some medias and also Ares as he is the God of War after all.
I wonder what My Hero Academia characters would think about such a civil war. Of course most if not all of the Pro Heroes and students are going to side with the Pro-Registration side. They’ve lived with such a system and it’s worked for the most part. Naturally the Villains will be on the Anti-Registration side which probably would disturb the superheroes on that side. However a number of Heroes would no doubt feel sympathetic to the Anti-Registration side. Deku and Shoto have more than enough experience bending or even breaking the rules on using powers to save their friends with the latter being angered when it seemed like they were going to get punished for stopping Stain while the former eventually left his class behind to fight a one-man war against the Villains. Bakugo may also feel restricted by rules given his temper. Still when push comes to shove, these guys believe more in reforming the system for the better instead of just tearing the whole thing down and starting over. Meanwhile the Villains would hate Pro-Registration because it would feel too much like the current Hero System in MHA. But most besides Stain would be annoyed by how even the rebelling superheroes still act like heroes instead of supervillains.
Why not make a part two with Amanda waller
Pls continue this series. Talk about the villains that join both sides because don’t forget marvel’s civil war had villains join both sides as well
It’s such an interesting tale
I feel like a villain that would join the government would be Mister Freeze, having taken a deal with Lex to sign the registration act in exchange for saving Nora
Wonder Woman I feel would feel even more strongly about anti-registration than even Batman or Green Arrow. She's an Amazonian from Themyscira and would therefore feel that laws created in man's world should not dictate how she goes about her heroics.
Well... she's also all about that diplomacy. I think she'd be the best for peaceful negotiations between the two sides being that she comes from a society that has certain beliefs and she knows what alienation can ultimately lead to. So, it makes more sense that Oliver and Bats would have more invested being that they grew up in Earth society. Diana is an immigrant she grew up with her sisters on the island. She cares but her care is more objective due to her being able to look at these events from an outsider perspective somewhat.
Technically she has diplomatic immunity anyway. Same with Aquaman. The only thing they could do is deport her.
That’s how Dr doom gets away with his actions. They can’t legally touch him.
@@glowhoo9226 and Aquaman actually is the boss or co-boss of Atlantis (depending on the day Aquaman and Mera just rotate the final decision on politics meanwhile depending on the timeline Aquaboy just wonders why they don't just go stop sea pirates or something while Tempest, Tula, Lagoon Boy and Dolphin are babysitting.)
@@glowhoo9226those two totally don’t get an opinion on the matter since their identities are known
I think a good reasoning for Superman to join the Registration act is because Superman has seen the amounts of civilian casualties and collateral damage due to superheroes fighting supervillains. He has participated a bit in it himself without wanting to. Superman feels responsible for the people who died because he wasn’t able to save them. Similar to Man Of Steel Superman had a fight with a supervillain that levelled the city. Jimmy Olsen was caught in the crossfire and Superman grieves his best friend’s death. Lex Luthor proposes this superhero registration act and personally asks Clark to join. Lex wants to better the world and knows that fighting Superman isn’t the way to do it after years of it. He still doesn’t like Superman but he knows that cooperating with him will be easier than going against him.
I feel like young Heroes like Tim Drake, Impulse and Static would sort of Lead a somewhat of a resisstence where only young people are allowed to join and they would basically do they're own thing.
I feel the same way the kid heroes and anyone younger would be like "yeah no we are not getting in between you too." Actually, all the Titans, imo would go off somewhere together and do their own thing.
Definitely Kon-El
This, the younger members would likely not take sides and instead focus purely on saving lives. Maybe do something like the cringe Outsiders BS..
I feel like this should be the case all the way upto Dick grayson’s generation. Its really only between Batman & Supermans generation and maybe the older dudes like Jay Garrick etc
@@kameronbailey6939 yup and Young Justice
I like the idea that near the end, when compromise is in sight, lex luthor does the kidnapping plan to force Superman to keep going down a path he doesn't agree with anymore.
I definetly agree that the change makes a lot of difference. The initial idea was too clear cut in whos right and whos wrong, which I feel is what went south in the second Marvel Civil War.
Great change on lex not capturing Superman’s family and being more of a “good” guy. Makes the story much more compelling and believable (in the old story I couldn’t buy that Batman wouldn’t almost immediately figure out lex’s plan)
Waller and Deathstroke are just there. I don't think any discussion would need to be done, Waller, Deathstroke, Suicide Squad, and maybe Sinestro are the black ops of the Registration faction. Thinking about it further, I think virtually any villain they do recruit would probably just be given the Suicide Squad treatment and enrolled into an expanded version of the group. Almost like a Janissary corps of supervillains.
I can’t imagine Cyborg siding with registration
i cant imagine cyborg willingly going against superman and becoming a fugitive, either. and something tells me that he wouldn't exactly function well as a normal human being unfortunately in our society
Injustice Cyborg would like a word
@@KongTheViking tbf injustice is extraordinarily poorly written, kingdom come cyborg is a much better example.
@@EricDillingham He’s also a Government shill in Flashpoint
@@KongTheVikingthe flashpoint universe also sucks just like the injustice one.
A good improvement I think. In this universe I’d have it that Lex & Superman were once child hood friends to sell them getting along better here & working together.
Martian Manhunter would eventually be the Flash’s main man seeking a middle ground I’d guess.
It’d be interesting if Superboy or Supergirl don’t side with SM because they could never forgive Lex for his past actions though. They think Clark is being naive trusting him.
100% on kon especially if it's 90s esc
I could definitely see Supergirl joining the Anti-Registration side.
I think as much as Nightwing loves Superman, for all of Batman's faults, he is a Batman loyalist. I can see Batman sending Nightwing in as a spy in Superman's registration team and using Dick's hero worship as a great cover.
This could be an #7-#8 plot twist or something?
Oouu this is a good idea
Part 3 please, that's a good list and I guess some of them right from the first video. I like the Blue Beetle/Firestorm dynamic.
Just throwing in an idea what if you had Static Shock (He could be consider a top tier teen superhero in your verse) join Superman's side and have him pull a spiderman and reveal his identity because you can make it that in the Darkseid invasion his family got hurt/almost died, at the end of the day he wants to keeps his family safe. And maybe Black Lighting could give him so advice or convince him to join Superman's side
Also I think it be a fun making Flash being the middle man like Trinity constantly convincing Flash to join their side (Because while DC Fandom and Flash himself don't know it, he's pretty much the 4th statue in that mount rushmoore of DC hereos) and Flash is just torn because these 3 are his good friends then maybe join Superman in Vol 3.
Just an idea
Are we using Wally or Barry or both here?
I feel like that's the deciding factor in this.
Superman should be for.
Batman against.
Wonder Woman- both sides have merit.
Barry has been shown to fall in line with Bruce ultimately.
Wally has also been hinted to ultimately make similar decisions to Diana going with whatever she feels best at the end of the day...which her thinking ultimately does fall in line with Clark's...and Wally's admitted such as well...and why not both Wally West and Wonder Woman are Double W's.
I personally can't see Nightwing being on the registration. Not to say he couldn’t be written that way for YOUR stories sake. Also, YOUR story has a great foundation! Keep it going bro!
Honestly i liked your first idea better I mean about how superman joined lex Luthor but I still liked this one and how you teamed them up and said how they would join but the way Superman joins lex I think I like the first one better great video tho I would love to see more content 👍
Let me start by saying I love this idea and premise that you are giving for a possible DC Civil War concept. The second is I could probably see this being split off into two other videos for both teams sides when it comes to the villains aspect of this because in the original marvel Civil War Tony had to utilize the thunderbolts in order to bolster his ranks and even some of the villains coming to captain America’s side so I could definitely see this happening for the same reason between both Batman and Superman depending on how desperate Batman really is to work with villains that he would normally capture.
What a fun video, love to see Question included. I also like the idea of this story simply not having any bad guys, simply a clash of ideals.
I honestly would like to see Hal initially be apart of the registration but have cost city be a victim of the darkside war and use him as the focus on why the registration would happen
Almost at 11k ...keep up the great content
Thank you, will do!
Completely dig your role for the Flash. I'm glad he has something interesting to do that sets him apart from his actions in Injustice.
I'm loving this series/story! I'm not the most familiar with most of these characters, but this just seems like such a cool story, and I can't wait for more!
Superman the face of dc
Batman the fav of dc
Wonder woman the the power of dc
Flashthe soul of dc .
Nightwing being on Superman's side took me by surprise, but your idea of him being on bad terms with Bruce and being close with Superman does add some nuance, and makes his choice an opening for interesting drama, especially within the Batfamily.
I still think that Superman being pro registration not by choice undermines the point of Civil War.
I said in the video I changed that idea, it's by choice.
@@tyrellmultimediaoh sorry then.
All good 👍🏼
I kinda like the idea of Batman being pro registration myself. Because think about it, Batman follows the rules to a T in not killing Joker or other chacthwrs who deserve it and no one would bat an eye at.
Compared to Superman, who, while yes, doesn't want kill, will if it saves the greater world at hand. Like Doomsday or Darksied.
It also goes hand and hand eith Clarks farm boy but ultimately doing what he believes is right which means breaking the rules if it most be broken but Batman would always follow the rules unless it invilves killing someone.
But thats just my thoughts. I'd kinda like to see Superman as an underground resistance type of team rather than Batman it would be a nice change of pace. But that's just me.
Id be interested in seeing that type of senerio. Nice video, tho.
Batman has never followed the rules. He breaks laws all the time as a vigilante which is why initially the GCPD wanted to arrest him. He's breaking and entering, stealing evidence, going over the speed limit, hacking private and government databases etc.
The second Zatanna joined the resistance the restigration was screwed
my teams would be:
team blue (rebel):
batman
flash
shazam (from a heel turn)
basically all the bat family (barb and dick might join team red later on).
aquaman
constantine
green lanterns
team red (registration):
superman
wonder woman
red tornado
martian manhunter
super family (maybe kon will join team blue just for balance sake).
yellow lanterns
i'll add more if i think of any.
I would love to see this story fully fleshed out
Hmmm, Wonder Woman, Hawkgirl and Raven being against Government Policing? Injustice needs to take notes
I really like Injustice but I did find it very odd that Raven of all people would side with Superman in that story.
@@tyrellmultimedia Oh yeah I totally agree. Injustice (a lot like the original Civil War) wrote a lot of characters out of character
THANK YOU FOR THIS
We gon need a part 3 on this, brody!!
First this say. This was a pretty good idea. Great job
You HAVE to make a plot video of how this story would go!!! I’m downright captivated! 😃😃😃
Thank you. For rethinking this idea🙏 true sign of creative collaboration. Taking criticism and reworking thoughts into form
Continue this! This is entertaining and a dope conversation topic!
I would love to see a whole video about what your dc universe looks like!
Another banger!
The fact that the only cosistent element that i, plus other viewers, disagree with you is your distaste for Lois Lane, shows how good your content is and how creative and knowledgeable you are when it comes to DC as a whole. Major props!
Found ur channel yesterday, and I’ve been enjoying ur videos, video concepts and takes so far. Keep it up man
Thanks man! Will do!
This was a well thought out video. Great content👍👍
Love it, and the change. Because the family thing i agree wouldn't make sense for superman either.
Also i feel having flash as the Spider-Man character is perfect. I also feel Batman would be like Nick Fury in the Marvel Alliance game trying to figure out the purpose of all this
I like the idea of Flash eventually being a mediator- I think if this was Wally (with Barry choosing not to participate because he still wants to protect Iris or he’s just lost in the Speedforce whichever), him and Nightwing would both be sort of independents because they know their mentors too well to be completely loyal to them like they were as kids but also realize that they are better together and this argument is ultimately pointless - I feel like Manhunter and Billy will eventually come to the same conclusion
The thought of Luthor having an audience and agreement with the Guardians is a really cool one I could see that being a pivotal point in the story where everyone realizes how serious things are becoming
Swamp Thing and Dr Fate wouldn’t give a damn about these issues. I see Deathstroke joining the government as a hunter of sorts, specifically hired to track Batman down after he steps down from his role as leader of the rebellion.
I think hal and john should be switched since hal is much more gun ho and head strong compared to john and is more up to disobey orders from the guardians then john. John also seemed more corps focused then hal. Hal would also be joining when batman is no longer leading which helps since they never got along. John being registered and hal being rebeal makes more sense in my opinion
We know Hal’s politics and that “by choice” thing should be enough of a ploy to make him feel comfortable enough joining
Bro Gave us the part 2 🙏🏾
I wanna hear how this story FULLY plays out bcz I am invested would want to see how it would end
I do like the idea of Luthor becoming president because he legitimately thinks he can do it better than anyone and he just wants to get the country/ world out of the tough time. I like the hero version of luthor with the villain past. A lot to work with there
Only thing I’d change about this story. Lex Luthor has never been a villain, not openly at least. Becoming president and starting the registration is his big evil plan where he reveals himself by the end.
Also Unrelated but do you think that its Impulse's turn to take on the mantle of the Flash? he become the Flash but it was only for a short while. I feel like you can tell really interesting stories with Bart as the main Flash with Barry or Wally having seemingly retired/die and it could explore themes of Legacy and whether or not Bart wants to continue the Legacy of the Flash and if thats what he really wants. He could operate in Central City like Barry did (or any other city that isnt Keystone and Central) and he should be able to get his own villains besides Inertia who's basically his Reverse-Flash. oh and I would make Killer Frost one of his villains it kills me that in some adaptations she's portrayed as a Flash villain yet she barely was in the comics. he can also be the Flash in Highschool or College and sort of be like Spider-Man and have his own version of the Clone Saga with Speedsters. and I'd make him a Teen Titan again.
I love everything you wrote here.
@@kingofhearts3185 thanks
In my mind, if there were a registration in the DC universe, it would be Superman as anti-registration, Wonder Woman as pro-registration, and Batman as the middle ground at the beginning. Then he may pick a side as the story progresses.
As for the lanterns, I just can't see Hal as pro-registration while John as anti-registration, switch sides with each others maybe.
In my version, it's the Superman's Death arc. Superman (similarly to BvS) is killed by Doomsay and Lex Luthor. The four supermen arrive, each vying to become President Luthor's second in command. The villains like Eradicator and Cyborg Superman are going for it for their own gain. Supergirl and Steel are trying to take it to keep the villains in check. This power imbalance leaves conflict in Superman's wake, which also provides some necessary cracks for Batman and the other undergrounders to slip through.
What about Super boy ?
@@KamilKurzawakomentarze-kk4uu Probably him too. I like a concise superman family-I'll see if I want to use Superboy, Supergirl, or Power Woman.
I really really like this idea
Please continue this story it’s a very interesting concept
Awesome video
I think in order for the whole Nightwing thing to work, Superman would have to make him his #2 from the very beginning. I also feel Wonder Woman wouldn't want any involvement in either side and choose to protect her people. The Amazons would probably have to be attacked for her to jump in.
Good work bro, keep it up
Thank you!
Superman feeling guilty for what happened to the world
is very good option..
He thinks if he wasn't here Darkseid wouldn't come
to Earth but he can't see i he wasn't here darkseid would have tear Earth Apart, in this could be the arc..
Batman trying to show him he wasn't the reason
but a protector of Earth..
T.M.M dropped another bagger
Damn. Batmans team is a power house. Firestorm and martian manhunter are heavily underrated
I think nightwing would at the end join Batman and the question on looking into the registration in the background, kinda like in young justice with the light. He would be kind of a mole and when found out would go back to Batman and they would berry the hatchet. This would also I think serve as a moment for Superman to reflect, cause I feel like nightwing would be kind of voice of reason for supes. Idk just a thought.
I think Aquaman would want to stay out of it but I believe Lex would force his hand one way or another. Ultimately giving the rebels some help.
I think a DC Civil War doesn't necessarily have to be about a registration act, and I actually think something like Civil War 2 or Tower of Babel would be more appropriate for DC. The League are so independent that even with a force pushing them into registration they'd generally oppose it, and find another way. But presenting them a new way to fight crime that's morally ambiguous would be a much more interesting way to split these characters. What if Lex, while imprisoned, finds a way to build a machine that can detect violent thoughts and presents it to Batman. They essentially would be destroying people's privacy, and even if controlled, would be working with a guilty till proven innocent approach to crime. But Batman, knowing that if this would've existed would've stopped his parents murder, attempts to control it and Lex. Meanwhile Superman, who believes in the good within all people, can see how it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy, and how people will lose their freedom to choose to do what's right. Everyone can then have a reasonable stance, taking sides in a difficult conflict where there's no clear right answer. I imagine it would also be a much slower burn than the original Civil War, with Superman and the League trying to work with/persuade Batman at the start, before things lead to violence
Starfire would definitly be anti-registration
You need to make an explanation to how the registration would affect the Teen Titans. Lex would undoubtedly target them. He couldn’t get them to register because they’re minors but he would make some super juvenile hall to keep them locked in
5:46 (spoiler alert for like a newish DC comic) I find that kind of funny because in this new comic Amanda Waller takes away superheroes powers with amazo bots and Green arrow is actually helping her take down the heroes and is working with the government cuz in his eyes superhero stopped looking out for the little guy so he wants to stop them or something like that so I think he would side with the government if it was in his best interest as a hero
Id have shazam switch to rebels, realising that despite superman being a good person, he hasnt made the right decision. This id make because billy batson may be harassed by media and other's in his child form and would want to protect it in the end as in the end he is still a child
Please Do Nightwing Sinister Six
It's coming!
Big disagree with Nightwing and Starfire. I can see your reasoning for Nightwing but I don’t think friendship with Superman would be enough. It’s Starfire that I simply can’t see being for registration because she spent so much of her early life struggling for agency and independence.
Plz continue this
I would for sure make it so that lex luther seems to be turning in a new leaf. Have him do something major like actually save metropolis from a trash economy and maybe even have him save Superman's wife or kid, to really show Supes hes serious, maybe during the Darkseid attack.. We've seen that superman will not trust lex luther even though he does a lot of good so he needs to do even more good than usual..
I'd also see WW, among others, just saying "screw either side" and going home, kind of like the XMen in Marvel's Cival War, WW in particular I could see just staying home, seeing the conflict as Man's problem. Some of the Lantern Core I feel like might stay out of it too, being constricted by Owa to not be allowed to take a side outside of alien attack.
I'm not sure about Power girl, but in the movies I've seen her in, she's a straight up government agent, with supergirl being more anti government, since the same people the cloned her are team Lex.
If you really want to make it interesting then have Bruce become President. Have Congress pass registration act, President Wayne vetoes the bill, Congress overrides the veto. This would make DC Comics` Civil War: The Justice League vs We the People.
I have considered a plot line of Wayne running against Luthor.
There should be a part 2 BUT about which villains/anti-heroes would want registration to happen or would rebel
TMM: Beast Boy and Raven would be in a relationship at this point.
Me: YES!
I like this premise. What would DC's Illuminati look like
He actually did a vid kn that: ruclips.net/video/KAImDVuLjYc/видео.htmlsi=Ir8IKpGxlkeJDwG2
Wouldnt Billy Batson be adult by now in the story? It would intresting to see him cobflict with his idol
I always like to imagine The flash as spiderman and once his identity was revealed gets jumped and saved by the rogues instead of punisher
I see green arrow being on Batman’s side
Love most of this! You've really done a great job.
I completely disagree on Green Arrow, though. He's a self-proclaimed "old lefty," meaning left-wing, liberal, etc. That's not a knock on his character, but even in the current absolute power event, he's siding with Waller. I definitely think he'd be pre-registration and pro government control.
Wasn't it straight up said in the green arrow that he's gonna betray waller and is only going this because she kidnapped his family
@@abiodunsulaiman2297 You might be right! I haven't seen coverage of that yet, just the main story. Thank you for that info!
I agree with this 👍🏻
I would change things to that Superman went to lex and asked him to write the act and Superman gives a speech to the UN
I really like that!
@@tyrellmultimedia it would be a massive twist that Clark went to lex and that’s how their friendship starts
Id love to see a whole side story of that Flash storyline. Kind of like secret wars.
It would be so awesome seeing the Flash recruit Tim Drake and Nightwing as a small rag tag team trying to end the war. Would occasionally run into Batman who in his current state would not hesitate to incapacitate Flash or Nightwing if in his way.
Could finally give Tim the respect his character deserves in a story like this.
OMG HE CHANGED THE SUPERMAN MOTIVE!!! HALLELUJAH 🙌
🔥 video we need a part 2
I think the Green Lanterns would abstain. Either leaving Earth or staying and defying both sides.
Continue this
While Superman would do anything to protect his loved ones (he'd become Lex's puppy if he has to, like in BVS: Dawn of Justice), he'd also do anything for the good of all, like with how he helped Lex get a pardon for his crimes just so the Justice League would have a bit of advantage against the Justice Lords. Superman hates Luthor, but not to the point of killing. Luthor is not Darkseid.
That said, if we go with the Darkseid invasion as the pretext of this DC supes registration act, Superman would probably work with Luthor out of his own guilt over his poor handling of the affair. Sure, Supes might be amenable to working with Luthor...but I don't think Luthor would be amenable to working with Superman, considering he'd only negotiate when absolutely driven to a corner, and will always screw anyone and everyone over when on a position of strength. If anything, Luthor would put Superman to jail and have someone like Captain Atom be America's new boy scout. Heck, maybe Shazam can then join Captain Atom as the first underling of Captain Atom's own Justice League.
Funnily enough, Green Arrow joined Amanda Waller against all the heroes in the Absolute Power event going on right now.
I mean it's very much hinted that he'll eventually betray her.
@@abiodunsulaiman2297Of course, just saying.
Didn't Oracle once work for Waller when she first became Oracle?
Kinda feels off to have her in opposite sides to Black Canary and Nightwing. But then again they both seam likely to join and Batman's side does need a hacker
Speaking of remember during Marvel Civil War that they brought in villains to join them Ironman.
How did black Adam work with registration?
My guess would be some kind of diplomatic immunity
@@seansilv25 I was curious, as I was wondering if he would be doing it to get in good graces, whilst subverting everyone and doing some tertiary villiany of his own
I don't know if you've ever considered making a video like this, but I'd really like to know what you think a Marvel comics version of the Watchmen would be like.
That's interesting!
Doctor Doom would most likely be in the role of Ozymandias.
You should also make an Marvel version of Injustice: God's Among Us
I'd love to see spin-off comics focusing on individual characters and how they'd deal with this. My personal picks would be;
Aquaman: Arthur using loopholes and threats of war to avoid the registration and taking power away from Luthor. "I'm not a superhero, I'm a foreign sovereign, and those tankers are on the ocean. My territory."
Blue Beetle/Captain Atom: Jaime and Nathaniel would absolutely be heroes who'd need handlers to decide power output and weapons that can be used. Captain Atom can only use certain forms of radiation, and Jaime can only use certain weapons under their handlers orders. I'd like to think Jaime would accidentally use a new weapon, and Captain Atom would see him drowning in paperwork after a minor misshap with it. Being tough, but still a nice person, he'd build up a rapport with the kid; taking him to a restaurant for a break or teaching him how to better use his powers. When blue beetle leaves the registration, we see Nathanial waver from the government for what could be the first time in his life. He fights Jaime later, but holds back, telling Superman he got away.
Powergirl/Green Arrow: Another sort of teaching one. Power girl has never been the most subtle hero, but now with the registrations in place, she can't even fight in broad daylight. Not wanting to trust batman about it because she'd think he'd just probe her for more weaknesses on superman, Green arrow goes to her to give her some pointers on just how to be subtle; how to do espionage and quickly make on-the-fly civillian identities. Eventually, Black Canary starts getting worried about rumours about them and brings it up in a fight with Ollie.
One thing to consider about Oracle, she’s the daughter of a cop. Food for thought on her views on government.
I think that's why I would have her against registration. Even though she works with her father and the GCPD she doesn't agree with all rules of the law. She has gone out of her way to be a Vigilante (which is illegal) to handle things the government can't or in ways it won't.
That's why it would be such a powerful move and stand for your own beliefs
Would there be any deaths? Like on both side with both sides doing the killings? Either accidental or not. Also how much in universe time would pass? like the sorta start would be maybe be about a little before the Darkside war and the ending the end of the Civil war. I would prefer years like the Darkside war was maybe a week to some months then a little side story of the rise of lex that takes like a year maybe? Then some months to set up the reg then like a month for the initial teams to form then a year of gearing up and sorta soft fighting just arguing and sometimes coming to blows, but nothing huge then the real fighting happens and goes on for like
Six years. So in my head you start with the setup of 3 years Darkside war/clean up/rise of lex 6 years of fighting progressively getting more lethal then 1 year of calming down both sides getting tired of fighting then like 1 year of trying to find compromise/finale big fight/superhero moment then like a epilogue so like 12/13 years for the whole thing. Like you can have the epilogue be about the kids that were raised during the Civil War, and how that affects them because most of them would be 13 to 16 by the end. I’d like it if the whole Civil War from start to finish no matter how it ends to be morally ambiguous no side could objectively say there side were morally superior. Just thought to give you some ideas and suggestions this seems like an interesting project so good luck and sorry for the long comment.
Green Arrow could join registration as a Spy. As he's done it before
I think cyborg and aquaman would be anti registration. I think cyborg wouldn’t sign it as he would want to be on the same side as power girl raven and his best friend beast boy and his mentor batman. i don’t remember and know a lot about aquaman but from what i remember the government had some role to play in his parents death i believe. that may be wrong but if it’s right i doubt he’d sign the registration act
Registration side is op af
Wally or Barry Flash? Genuine question
In my universe it would be Wally. I have a massive storyline on why it would be Wally over Barry. It wouldn't just be a "window dressing" decision.
I agree with both members on each side especially Batman’s team but if they continue fighting would half of his team get arrested without due process and if you are continuing this I suggest about having being brought in like in Marvel with Team Ironman?
5:15 Speaking of T.M.M do you ever think of a possible future for them being together as a Husband and Wife duo possibly having children?
Yes some of these characters such as Raven and Beast Boy would be married and have children or have children on the way.
You should do secret wars next.