REACTING to *Blade Runner (1982)* WHAT DOES IT MEAN?? (First Time Watching) 80s Movies
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James and Ninetailedbrush are reacting to Blade Runner (1982)! This cyberpunk classic 80s movies starring Harrison Ford is something which we have been dying to watch. This movie is trippy and complicated and asks so many questions but what does it mean? Who know. Enjoy this first time watching 80s movies reaction!
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"I've.. seen things your people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. Ice watched C Beams glittering in the dark near Tannhauser Gate. Now all those.. moments will be lost like tears in the rain. Time to die."
RIP, Rutger Hauer, 1944-2019.
Amazing thing is that speech was all Rutger.
Yeah, I remember watching a clip of him saying how he came up with it late one night and told Ridley Scott about it.
Orion is 1344 light years away. I find it hard to believe that with the tech in this movie, supposed to be 2019, they have reached Orion (would imply FTL)
The music for Blade Runner was composed by the late Greek composer Vangelis (Evangelos Odysseas Papathanassiou), who had previously won an Academy Award for composing the music for Chariots of Fire in 1981. He sadly passed away in March of this year.
RIP Mr. Vangelis.
I didn't know Vangelis had died recently. Blade Runner soundtrack in my opinion is superior to Chariots Of Fire. I guess at the time the academy didn't want to give another Oscar to the same guy next year. Probably Ridley Scott should have gotten director Oscar also.
He was also a member of the Greek Prog Rock band Aphrodite's Child.
"Origin of cyberpunk?"
Writer William Gibson invented the term in 1984 when he released his iconic cyberpunk tome "Neuromancer," but published his first short story set in that cyberpunk world, "Johnny Mnemonic" in 1981, the same year Blade Runner was released. Gibson said he "was afraid to watch Blade Runner in the theater because I was afraid the movie would be better than what I myself had been able to imagine." In Japan, Katsuhiro Otomo was working on the first volume of Akira to be published in 1982.
Cyberpunk's roots go back to the 60's and it's tied to counter culture writers (hence, "punk") like William Burroughs and Hunter Thompson. Blade Runner is based on Phillip K Dick's novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep." (1968) Dick also wrote the source material for "Total Recall," "Minority Report" and "A Scanner Darkly"
The other big influence on cyberpunk was the "Metal Hurlant" movement of science fiction comics from Europe in the 70's, published here in the US in "Heavy Metal" magazine. Many of the tropes, including the dominance of Asian culture in the future, started in these comics. There is one specific comic by "Alien" writer Dan O'Bannon and artist Jean "Moebius" Giraud called "The Long Tomorrow" (1976) that is considered ground zero for the look of cyberpunk cityscapes. It was adapted into the "Harry Canyon" segment of the (first) Heavy Metal animated movie, also released the same year as Blade Runner.
After O'bannon sold his "Alien" script, Ridley Scott hired Moebius to design all the human sets and costumes. (He took a first crack at the alien stuff but of course they went with HR Giger's designs for that) For Blade Runner, Scott didn't have Moebius but he did have Syd Mead and told him to make 2019 LA look like "The Long Tomorrow." You can see direct influences like the main character detective in a flying car, the femme fatale visual inspiration for Rachael, and the stratified society with the lower classes in the literal lower levels of the city. (And "Aliens" fans will get to see what "Arcturian poontang" looks like and why their gender doesn't matter...)
Syd Mead and Moebius did work together on "Tron," another classic early cyberpunk film, again from the same year as Blade Runner, Heavy Metal, and Johnny Mnemonic.
Indent please.
A few things; William Gibson coined the term "cyberspace", in Neuromancer, and "cyberpunk" was coined in the classic boardgame Cyberpunk 2020 in 1988. Gibson had written Neuromancer in 1981, and before that had a publisher, he went to see Blade Runner, and was blown away by how closely the film resembled what he had written, and because of that he rewrote the entire book.
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@@vandalfinnicus1507 It was actually the scifi writer Bruce Bethke who coined the term Cyberpunk in 1980 for his own novel. Gibson and Sterling only made it famous
Never forget one of the original sci Fi/dystopia movies from the days of yore:
"Metropolis"
Rutger Hauer was such a powerhouse of an actor, never tire of watching him🥰 if im not mistaken, his final monolog was partially improvised
he fully improvised it himself and is considered the greatest movie monologue of all time :D
@@benecio20 it is a masterpiece, truly!
Pity they cut his famous monologue at the end.
He added the line about "tears in rain" to the monologue during a read-through of the script in early pre-production. He didn't write the whole thing, and he didn't improvise it on-set. On the DVD documentary Dangerous Days, he describes how he added the tears in rain line during a script read-through and then glanced around the table to see if anyone, i.e. the director and writers, would react to what he'd done. The line ended up in the final film. Holding the dove during that scene was also his idea.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks well according to ridley scott here in this interview it went down quite differently lmao
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I actually loved how Pris looked. Punky woman, the black shade across her eyes, so I paused the video to where she was sitting, waiting for Dekard, and drew her once.
She fit right into 1981. PUNK
Pris looked so cool but her character scared me. 😫
what a great reference for a drawing! I would to see it
The movie is based on the Novel "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep". In the book, they were actual androids. In the movie, they are genetically modified "Test tube babies". The only scene in the movie that came directly from the book were the questions he asked Rachel during the test. Everything else is Ridley.
The movie only very briefly touches on this but in the book, there was a world war that wiped out most of the animal life on the planet. Animals were seen as a status symbol. If you were rich and well connected, you could afford a real animal. Everyone else had to get by with a robotic animal. The only reason that Deckard took the job was to earn the money to bye a real goat for his wife.
The reason that your friend had a problem with Gaff's language at the beginning was because he was speaking "City speak" which is a mish-mash of different languages.
I was going to come and say this about the animals. It's not really explained in the movie that most of the animals are man- made because so many species were wiped out.
Another thing that was in the original movie and not in this version (because they cut out the voice over) was the idea that Rachel was special. She was not given the four year life span so she could basically live as long as any other human but I don't think anyone besides Deckerd knew that.
@Dio According to the script, the 2nd generation replicants are bio-engineered. 3rd generation are "synthogenetic." Nexus 6 are definitely genetically engineered. No "circuit boards." Sebastian specifically says he does "genetic design" for Tyrell Corp.
@Dio You have memories. Do you have circuit boards? Do you have a CPU?
@Dio You're completely missing the point, Einstein. You obviously don't need "circuit boards" to store memories. However memories are stored in a human brain, Tyrell found a way to replicate that. Pun intended.
Deckard knew what he was saying also he was just being an ass asking the guy to translate
In the extended ending, the scene at the end with the origami unicorn is clarified. Gaff went to Deckard's apartment in an attempt to kill Rachael, but let her live instead, thinking that she only had 4 years to live and so he decided to show her mercy. In reality though, Rachael did not have a termination date, meaning that she and Deckard could live together for the rest of their lives. Deckard then states at the end "I didn't know how long wed have to live together, who does?". When Gaff tells Deckard "it's too bad she wont live, but then again who does" he was basically telling Deckard to run away with her and live with the remaining time they had.
When/where did they say Rachel didn't have an end date? I was pretty sure she did.
@@xhighone In the extended ending. Deckard said that Tyrell told him. ruclips.net/video/aAl07rl2jew/видео.html
@@xhighone In the "Happy Ending" ruclips.net/video/aAl07rl2jew/видео.html
That is not a clarification, that is an imposition by the studio. The original ending as planned always had the dream of the unicorn, which meant that Deckard is a replicant.
People usually come into this movie from two different directions when it comes to understanding what Replicants are. Some people try to understand Replicants from a pure manufactured metal robot with a computer point of view. Others come from the other direction; how do replicants differ from humans? I'm among the latter group. I always thought of Replicants as genetically designed biological beings with blood, flesh, a brain etc., in other words they were designed to be slaves to humans. Not giving them memories would block most of their emotional development but there were obviously Replicants that reached a higher level of consciousness while also starting to experience emotions. Rachel was a special "model" with less limitations than the average replicant as well as given memories which gave her the ability to develop true emotions. Roy's weird behavior was a result of his very stunted emotional growth.
The ultimate question in the movie is really: "what makes someone human?". If you're coming from the other direction where you may believe that Replicants are typical robots with AI (terminator, ex machina and so on) it becomes a little more complicated to understand motives and behavior, wondering if they're just acting according to programming that have been evolved by neural networking (or something). I've never felt that the Replicants in this movie were machines... Well, I guess we're all biological machines in a sense which make Replicants semi-synthetic beings based on human biology albeit heavily redesigned to be able to do stuff that ordinary humans can't. I don't know if they had any technology embedded in their bodies; the movie never went into detail how they were made.
I LOVE this movie. The atmosphere, the music, the set design, the characters, the perpetual rainy night etc.. And I've spent a lot of time thinking about the themes and certain details in this movie to gain a better understanding. There's a rather spiritual under-theme going on that is fascinating. "God made man in his image" -> "Man made replicants in his image".
Well, even the original term "roboti" popularized by Karel Capek in 1920 has slave-connotations in Czeck/Boheimian.
Eu, definitivamente, sempre pertenci ao segundo grupo, desde a primeira vez que assisti este filme...no cinema...rssssssss
Ya they aren't classic robots. They are real beings with cells and blood.
Anyone that's watched BSG the characters all saw the humanoid cylons as robots.
Rather reminiscent, isn't it, of Joshua's bitter line in 1956's *The Ten Commandments* : "God made men...Men made slaves!" 🤔 🤨
23:30 the blue on the side of her face was a tattoo which confirms she's the same girl in the photo. When Deckard is talking to her in the changing room he's actually performing a Voight-Kampff test without a machine by asking her questions that should elicit an emotional response like disgust, revulsion or fear. The fact that he's able to do it without a machine shows how good he is at his job and that she doesn't react emotionally to his questioning confirms to him that she's a Replicant.
The movie LadyHawke is a forgotten overlooked fantasy movie starring Michelle Pfieffer, Matthew Broderick, & Rutger Hauer. It is one of my absolute all time favorites. And in my opinion these 3 play the best roles of their careers. Have only seen one reaction to it.
I love love love LadyHawk It's my favorite Rutger Hauer role ever! (although he does make a great vampire in the Buffy the Vampire movie)
Omg yesssss, Ladyhawk 😍😍😍😍 a masterpiece
There’s that one scene in Ladyhawke, you know the one, I cry my eyes out every time!
I wish someone would rescore LadyHawke, because the horrible soundtrack really lowers it.
@@SirHilaryManfat + It wasn't horrible back in the day - in the theater. I guess that's what you mean by rescore it? Fix or redo the original?
Replicants are basically humans who are built rather than grown - made from enhanced materials, some stronger / tougher / generally better physically, other bits simplified or edited down. They wake up fully grown and are trained in their basic skills then put to work , they're emotionally children in perfect adult bodies
Whether or not Decker was a replicant was the question everyone was asking for decades. So when the new Bladerunner came out everyone was hoping it would finally be revealed.
That’s super cool!!!
Do androids dream of electric sheep?
Not everyone. Some liked the mystery.
The real question is given no cut off, would a replicant age?
Except it was very explicitly said by pretty much entire production and cast (some 20 years ago) he isn't a replicant, though it was intentionally teased. All the commentary on humanity and what is humanity makes no sense if he is a replicant. Movie would be pointless
Fun Fact: The inspiration for much of the set design and visual aesthetic of Blade Runner was the famous Ennis House in Los Feliz, California, which was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright and built in 1924. It also served as the exterior location for the 1959 horror film, House on Haunted Hill, with Vincent Price.
It's featured heavily in HBO's Westworld.
The key theme in the film is empathy...Tyrell describes the Voight-Kampf test as being "an empathy test." The idea is that to be human, you have to have the ability to empathize with others. It's why Roy saves Deckard, and why Deckard saves Rachael...even why Gaff knows what the two of the are up to, but elects to let them go. Ultimately, it doesn't matter if Deckard is a replicant or not at the end, because either way, he's learned to act like a human. The question is what matters, not the answer...it asks us to consider how our feelings would be about what we think is different if we didn't know whether we were one or the other. It would be like blind people being bigoted about skin color.
The sequel is also amazing, and a prime example of how to do a sequel the right way, expanding on the original without taking anything away from it. The screenplay was by one of the original screenwriters for this film.
Rachelle was the unicorn one of a kind. they weren't robots they were 100% organic. the company that developed them specialized in making robots but the replicants were organically assembled.
Roy Boy's monologue is truly a masterpiece. Saving Deckard as final defiance against the "programming" as replicant soldier. You could say Roy Boy finally achieved his goal: humanity. Finally able to make his own choice and defy his purpose. But then every time you watch this you find new things and you may even change your own deductions.
There's also Kurt Russel's soldier 1998 that is sidequel. It takes places exactly the same universe as Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049. Its worth of watching. Russell made most acting without lines. he had what, less than 80 words in the film and he made it work. Sure its not action classic but definately worth watching if you want to full experience of Blade Runner universe.
Oh, "Soldier"'s a longtime favorite! Very good. Not quite as good, but I think also in the same universe is "Screamers" with Peter Weller.
This movie is an experience, honestly. You can’t say isn’t visually stunning.
If you guys decide to watch the sequel, 2049 (and I think you should), do watch the shorts first. They're helpful, and also worth watching ;)
Its up on patreon
@@whitenoisereacts Great!
Welcome back once again to the 1980s, guys! Blade Runner was one of the movies that created the genre of 80s neo-noir. It also shows you what we thought the 21st century was going to back in the 1980s. Obviously things fell way short of expectations. lol 😂
The tree symbol you see at the start of the movie is the symbol for The Ladd Company, which was founded by Alan Ladd Jr. shortly after he stepped down as executive of 20th Century Fox. Alan Ladd Jr. was the son of the famous Hollywood actor Alan Ladd, who was the star of several film noir classics of the 1940s.
During Alan Ladd Jr.'s tenure at 20th Century Fox, the studio had produced hit movies such as The Omen, Star Wars, and Alien, and then Ladd left the studio to form his own studio, The Ladd Company, which was most famous for having produced films such as Blade Runner, the Sean Connery science fiction thriller Outland, the Academy Award winning Chariots of Fire, the astronaut epic The Right Stuff, the neo-noir thriller Body Heat, and the first two Police Academy comedies.
Outland is a fantastic movie. It’s based on a western right?
@@shampoovta Yes, Outland is basically like High Noon in outer space. 😁 It was loosely inspired by High Noon.
Thanks. Interesting stuff.
@@xhighone You're welcome. 😁 I was just a kid when all these movies came out.
The Ladd Company was also founded by Jay Kanter and Gareth Wigan - they were all disgruntled ex-20th Century Fox employees.
The company also assisted with "Braveheart" and "Gone Baby Gone".
The logo was based on "the tree of life" according to Ladd and Wigan. And the fanfare in the logo is by one John Williams!!
In the book, most animals had died from a mysterious disease, hence the various lines about animals.
Wasn't it from radioactive dust clouds, left over from atomic weapons? That was also the reason why most healthy humans had migrated off-world, and the buildings were mosty empty.
I've watched BLADE RUNNER at least 25 times. It is my favorite film !! I lived in Los Angeles for many years and have visited all the locations for the movie, including the Ennis Brown house in the Hollywood Hills. It was used as Harrison Ford's apartment , LA Union Station, Los Angeles 3rd Street Tunnel , Chinatown, the Bradbury Building, used as J. F. Sebastian apartment building, and several other locations🤗
The movie where the “enhance picture” meme began.
"All right, guys..."
Audiences had no idea what to make of Blade Runner when it was released. I think because it starred Harrison Ford (Han Solo! Indiana Jones!) and was directed by Ridley Scott of Alien fame, people expected a much more intense and perhaps action-driven film. Also the title "Blade Runner" really gives nothing away about what the movie is about. But whatever they were expecting from this movie, they didn't get. It's very much a slow-burn detective noir story (that just happens to take place in a dark future and involves what are essentially human clones) and I think audiences were disappointed with that. Blade Runner would only gain the reverence it now has once it reached cable TV and home media, where it received a critical re-evaluation and came to be regarded as one of the best sci-fi movies ever made and is largely credited for inspiring the cyberpunk genre.
I saw it in the theater when it first came out. It had quite a bit of studio tampering like adding a noir-style voice-over by Ford. Also it had a happier ending with Deckard and Rachael fleeing to the north and implying that Rachael, being the newest model may not be programmed to die like the others.
@@bengilbert7655 Yes, I'm very much aware of the different editions of the film and the changes that were made to it (I have the collector's set that came in the replica Voight-Kampff case). The added Deckard voice-over always felt like the studio desperate to make the movie more accessible to casual moviegoers who needed things spelled out to them.
You sound like someone that read this in a history book and is quoting to show how “smart” you are. I saw this in this movies in the 80s. Nothing you write is correct.
@@glennwelsh9784 I’ve always liked the theatrical version. But then, I’m a sucker for film noir voiceovers.
@@justmeeagainn How is everything I'm saying wrong? It had a $30 million-dollar budget and it fell short of that number on its initial run in theaters. Even by 80's box office standards, that's considered a commercial failure. And considering how the film bucked a lot of the trends of sci-fi films of the era by not relying on rollicking action/adventure or kid-friendly whimsy, you can understand why it wasn't as successful as, say, Star Wars, Terminator, or E.T. When I first watched it, I quickly understood why it underperformed, but also understood why more people eventually came around and started praising it.
And yes, you may have had a different personal experience when you saw it in theaters in 1982, but not everybody shares the same experience as you. I think people tend to live in their own bubbles of subjective reality and just assume that everyone shares the same experiences. The theater you went to may have been packed, but considering its box office take, but that doesn't mean that every other theater was packed. The film's tone and themes may have been right up your alley, but given the mixed reactions it apparently received from critics in 1982, not everyone was as hot on the movie at first as you were. Hell, I've worked at a movie theater in a major metropolitan area, and I've seen films that sold out 200-plus seat auditoriums on the first Friday and Saturday night on screens but still underperformed nationwide because interest in the film in other parts of the country wasn't very high and the critical reviews weren't good. But yes, the critics and audiences can be wrong. It happens, as was the case with Blade Runner.
And was I wrong about how Blade Runner influenced cyberpunk? You can see the homages and influences all over. Anime like Ghost In The Shell and Akira was definitely influenced by Blade Runner's techno-noir cyberpunk world and its philosophical questions regarding the nature of humanity. The animated series Batman Beyond owes its future aesthetic for Gotham City's monolithic buildings and hovering cars to Blade Runner, and its flying Batmobile looks very much like Blade Runner's police spinners. Christopher Nolan even cited Blade Runner as his inspiration for his "enhanced reality" approach to Batman Begins. So can you explain how I'm wrong on that account?
And about me "trying to sound smart"? Yeah, I was a film major for six years in college. I studied this shit. So I think I do know at least a little bit about it.
The sexual connection with Deckard and Rachael was seen by some as rape, as he was forcing her, but Deckard knew that if Rachael wanted to feel truly human, she would have to be forced out of her programmed comfort zone, which is why he did what he did.
The unicorn angle was to have you wondering if Deckard was a replicant, but I doubt he was, or he would have had the physical strength to match Roy or Leon. Even Pris was beating the crap out of him.
I'd say that one scene between Rachael and Deckard goes a bit deeper (forgive the pun). Almost everything she does before is based on her "fake memories" in some way, highlighted by the moment with piano play. Sex with Deckard, in this context, becomes her first _truly personal_ experience, as a unique person of her own, without any hints of "artificial personality" to guide.
...Wait, I've seen this move more than ten times, checked out all existing cuts, memorized it almost by every scene, and right now got that one moment of fringe revelation, previously missed by me. Quite a mark for the movie being a true masterpiece in this regard.
Harrison Ford has said that this character was human that is how he played him now the director said that he left to where you have to decide for yourself. But I believe that he is a human
Fun fact: Christopher Nolan is a big fan of Blade Runner (the theatrical cut for some reason) so this movie inspired part of the aesthetic for Gotham City in Batman Begins
All the versions have their merits.
I too have a special place in my heart for theatrical release due to the fact that I saw this back when it was 1st shown. At the time there was nothing that gave us that sense of awe when we hear the music coupled with that metropolitan aesthetic. It was jaw dropping.
Nolan has been quoted that he has watched Blade Runner over 500 times.
It’s been so long since I’ve seen this film. It’s a classic. From what I read many years ago the reason so much of the visual aesthetics are Japanese on the street level is because some social predictive models suggested those cultures would be more populous and culturally influential. The language you hear on the street level is a combination of Japanese and Spanish slang that was developed for the film. They did a lot of work on predicting what the future would look like although I think they jumped the gun a little bit… We still don’t have flying cars. It’s been many years since I read this article I’ll try to find it and link it here if I do.
Rutger Hauer's monologue at the end still gives me chills even after all of these years and hearing it multiple times.
Two other movies you should watch of his are The Hitcher (1986) and Blind Fury (1989).
I watched this when I was 11, way over my head at the time. But, I knew I had watched something special. Ridley Scott's masterpiece. I don't know if Rutger Hauer gets enough credit for his iconic performance in this, he brings such depth to his character.
And you guys are so right, this is a film nior detective story, set in the future.
Awesome reaction as always. I can’t wait for 2049. I’m sure others have pointed it out already and I’m too lazy to view all of the comments, but Replicants are not androids. They are biological, genetically engineered humans. Thanks again for sharing.
A MASTERPIECE for the ages!!!!!
I still dream about this movie. Its too powerful in a very subtle way.
Neuromancer the novel, We'll remember it for you wholesale-the short story, and this movie, were how Cyberpunk was introduced to the world. Not to mention EVERYTHING written by Phillip K. Dick.
I am with the ones that think that Bester´s Tiger, TIger is one of them too, but your mileage might vary on that one.
The reason Deckard was aggressive in the love scene was because not only was he fighting his own empathy for the replicants overall, but was also developing stronger feelings and desire for Rachael, and he was struggling with it all. He was almost angry with her for making him want her.
The shadows in this movie it's called German Expressionism. This movement already appeared since a long time ago from the german paintings to the Weimar Period 1918-1933 and many horror movies, fantasy movies, noir movies, etc inspired by this movement.
The music for this movie was done by Vangelis. A truly, one off, Greek composer.
He’s done many movie soundtracks, including, The Bounty, Chariots of fire, 1492 conquest of paradise…
The guy is a musical genius.
Blade Runner is based on the Philip K. Dick novel, ‘Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep?' which was a pioneer of the cyberpunk genre along with one of Dick's short stories, ‘We Can Remember It For You Wholesale,' which was adapted into the movie Total Recall with Arnold Schwarzenegger. The title, ‘Blade Runner,' is actually taken from a totally separate novel called ‘The Blade Runner,'' about futuristic surgeons performing illegal and unethical operations for the black market.
The language they speak is a mixture of languages "city speak", many themes run through this film, the main being what is it to be human, and what's the difference really between replicant and human, there are no definite answers to any if the questions, there are definitely hints that Deckard is a replicant but no conclusion, as for the replicants they have the minds of adults but only the emotional response of children because they have only 4 years to live
At the food vendor the cop speaks Hungarian. It's just a bad accent.
@@kraven4444 from the theatrical relese voice over
Deckard: The charmer's name was Gaff. I'd seen him around. Bryant must have upped him to the Blade Runner unit. That jibberish he talked was city-speak, guttertalk, a mishmash of Japanese, Spanish, German, what have you. I didn't really need a translator. I knew the lingo, every good cop did. But I wasn't going to make it easier for him.
But Hungarian is in there as olmos made up the language as he saw fit and he has Hungarian ancestry, I believe the first line at the vendor is a slur 😀
"Edward James Olmos speaks Hungarian in the movie "Blade Runner" as Gaff. His lines are the following:
"Monsieur, azonnal kövessen engem, bitte." which means "Follow me immediately, please." (the last word is in German), and
"Lófaszt, nehogy már. Te vagy a Blade Runner." which means "Bullshit, no way. You are the Blade Runner".
Monsieur is obviously French
That's a quote as they broke it down in another RUclips clip of that scene. Yes he says like 2 words in French and German, but the entire rest of those two sentences are Hungarian. It's not as you called it Gibberish or cop talk to 90 % use an actual existing language. Hungarian is not gibberish
Classic! Such an atmospheric film. That tears in the rain speech is amazing.
I love how you guys were a bit dumbfounded in interpreting the subtleties of Blade Runner.
Don’t feel bad. I’ve been mentally dissecting this film for decades, and still have many questions.
It was great to see this classic through your eyes.
Did you recognise Tyrell ? Joe Turkel who played him was also the bartender in 'The Shining'. He was also in a few more Kubrick movies and another connection if you see the Theatrical version is the ending uses unused footage from 'The Shining' too.
For some strange reason 1982 was an amazingly good year for sci-fi movies.
The unicorn origami was, I believe, a signal to the Blade Runner that she, the unicorn, is safe from him ... he was there, but didn't kill Rachel.
The lighting you’re wondering about is low-angle and low-key lighting usually place at around a 45-degree angle. It’s based in an Italian concept called chiaroscuro, which is the strong contrast and interplay between light and shadow in order to enhance mood and create interesting shadow-based images. One of those frequently-seen examples is using this to create the shadow pattern of Venetian blinds across people’s faces. It’s considered part of the visual language of film noir, and Blade Runner is a perfect example of a neo-noir, obviously blended with a scifi premise and storytelling.
In the 80s, Japan was going to run everything technological. After WW2, they were restricted from spending a large portion of their economy on the military, so, instead, they invested it all in tech. They ruled the tech world. Then that restriction ended and they stopped investing intelligently. A couple of decades later, no one even remembers when they were to be the masters of the world.
The Asian influences in cyberpunk are related to the geopolitics of the time. In the early 80s Japan was at the height of its economic boom, and Japanese companies were buying ton of properties in the U.S. So it was believed that Japan and Japanese culture would have a very strong presence in the future. The cyberpunk elements that were seen in anime of the 80s were directly influenced by Blade Runner.
YOU GUYS! Your ongoing debate about the nature of the replicants was exactly what the movie was going for. wrapped in a high class visually awesome future noir story /setting. No weakness in your review.
God this movie is fantastic. And it's one of the rare cases where a sequel comes out decades after the original and knocks it out of the park, advancing both the worldbuilding and theming of the original in near-perfect ways. Can't wait for 2049!
Vangelis who did the soundtrack died this year in May...his music was so unique, Blade Runner wouldn't be the same without it !
For composite shots, since they had to combine multiple separately filmed images onto a single strip of film, the models were filmed in 65mm, so there wouldn't be a noticeable drop in quality when they duplicated the composited images onto 35mm.
Other fx shots were done in camera, without compositing, by rolling the film back, and exposing different areas of the frame with each pass. You shoot models and roll it back, shoot lights and roll it back, shoot smoke and roll it back...every pass being exposed on the same piece of film. For some shots, the same strip of film had to be run through the camera dozens of times, each time, capturing a separate element, building the final image without any kind of post compositing. This can be risky for several reasons, but again the effect is that you don't lose image fidelity by moving further from the negative, because you capture the entire finished fx shot on the negative.
First time I saw Blade Runner was the mid to late 80's in the middle of the night. I was probably 9 or 10 and it blew my mind.
I saw this while stationed in Korea in 1982. I always loved the sci-fi and soundtrack. Every since, I’ve collected some of Vangelis work.
Some people think Deckard was a replicant. I never have, and still don't. This is probably my favorite sci-fi film ever.
You're quite correct. Blade Runner and a lot of other cyberpunk took inspiration from the tech noir look of Japan during the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, especially places like Tokyo and Osaka.
This movie had a lot of production issues, as neither the cast or crew got along with each other at all, nor did they got along with Ridley Scott.
The crew wore shirts that read:
"Xenophobia sucks."
"Yes, Guv'nor, My Ass. "
"I survived Blade Runner."
Scott and Harrison Ford would frequently argue on the set of the movie due to the scheduling and script rewrites.
Ford hated narrating the movie, and would get into a yelling competition with the sound editor by saying, "I'm out here busting my ass, and your laughing at me!? Who the hell do you think you are!?"
The narration was the biggest regret Scott and Ford had ever done, and would later be removed in future cuts of the movie.
The film recieved mixed reviews by Critics like Roger Ebert, who said "it was stunning visually, but sadly, fails as a story."
He would give the Director's Cut and Final Cut positive reviews.
If the story about laughing is true, damn, i hate when people laugh thinking they're joking or something and you're suffering
Yeah it was odd
I wonder how different it is from Dick story
There's a fantastic book on the whole battle to make the movie called 'Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner' but Paul M Sammon. Well worth a read.
@@meropemerope6096 Very. Very, very different and, in my opinion, the film is much better.
In the end Roy realized how valuable life is, thats why he saved Deckard.
Fun fact: in the director's cut of Aliens, the second movie in the Alien franchise, we can see bio shots of the Nostromo crew, including Arthur Dallas. We then find out that Dallas, the captain of the Nostromo, used to work transport for Tyrell Corporation before going into mining transport for Weyland-Yutani.
I so appreciate your comments on world building, set design and visual aesthetics, character development, and the way you both enjoy picking up on and analyzing little story details to figure out what's going on. I would love to see you guys react to The Expanse. It's a journey that would appeal to you both.
Will keep it in mind!!
This movie was based on a novel by Philip K. Dick titled Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. I liked the movie better than the book. Another sci-fi movie starring Rutger Hauer that I loved was Split Second. When Deckard talked about getting the shakes after "retiring" a replicant that's why he wasn't a Blade Runner at the start. He had quit because he didn't want to kill anymore.
Holy sh- this is gonna be amazing.
Fun fact, Daryl Hannah broke her wrist when it went through that van window, that wasn't scripted.
The shot of Rachel at the table during the Voight-Kampf test, with the reflection in her eyes, is one of my favorite shots from any film.
Just a random suggestion I thought of- I think you guys would enjoy the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes movies starring RDJ and Jude Law ! They are great and the sequel A Game Of Shadows is especially so !!
And since you bring up Mr. Law, why not take a look at the very strange, sci-fi fairy tale, "A.I." I really felt like I was watching a feature-length "Outer Limits" episode.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 Awesome suggestion!
Something you guys nail in this reaction is the reason the version with the voiceover narration never clicked with me the same way. The music, and the audio details in the background like radio chatter, allow you to immerse yourself in the visuals, and it feels so epic. Now imagine all of that drowned out by Harrison Ford, sounding like he'd rather be doing anything else, muttering stuff that he barely understands. The outtakes from the voiceover recordings are hilarious at times, with Ford repeatedly proclaiming that the narration is bizarre. And he was literally reading this stuff for the first time, because it's come straight off the typewriter. And what that voiceover does, more than anything, is step on the visuals, rather than augment them, as the score and sound design do.
Please watch STAR TREK! 🖖
Nice. Gents, I'm 51 years old now and this has been my alltime favourite number one movie for the past 36 years. Mood, story, visuals, thought-provoking, everything in this movie is stunning and utterly able to be experienced multiple times. And each rewatch reveals more. This is the first, of many, many adaptations of the writings of the SciFi author Philip K. Dick. An absolute visionary genius.
Those special effects were accomplished by the late, great Douglas Trumbull. You might've seen his other work in "2001 A Space Odyssey," "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," and "Star Trek The Motion Picture."
Firstly the replicants are not machines in the sense of being made of metal and silicon and computer chips. They are biological constructions. However they're designed to be significantly stronger and in some cases smarter than humans. As far as Deckard being a replicant or not, the film intentionally leaves that question ambiguous. According to Ridley Scott, Deckard is a replicant, but according to Harrison Ford, he isn't. Ultimately it's up to you to decide.
The score is by Vangelis and yes, it's fantastic. Some movies wouldn't be the same without it (i.e. Jaws). This is one of them.
This is still one of my all-time favourite movies - it lives in your head long after the credits roll - and has, quite simply the Best Death Scene Ever and possibly Rutger Hauer's finest role - frickin' fabulous! Great reaction, boys - thanks.
about this movie. It is a smart move to leave many unanswered questions with no definitive answers, it elevates the experience for the audience and leaves them wondering.
Ridley intended to make Deckard not know he was a replicant but it got left on the cutting room floor in the editing room and is barely hinted at when he dreams of unicorns in the final movie.
The actor playing officer Gaff of the LAPD Blade Runner Unit is Edward James Olmos, who would later become famous as Detective Lieutenant Castillo on the TV show Miami Vice, and as Admiral Adama on the Battlestar Galactica remake. He also earned an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor for the movie Stand and Deliver.
This movie was sooo ground breaking. A masterpiece
The freezer guy is in many things back then. Big Trouble in Little China is one of those. I'll suggest this forever. lol
I love you guys questioning everything! That’s what this movie does to people! No spoon fed easy writing you get today. Something to make you THINK. Brilliant movie!!
Side note: try Terry Gilliam’s “Brazil.” And “The Fisher King”
Welcome to one of the greatest films of all time - so stylish and open to interpretation!
Alan Ladd Jr., the owner of the Ladd Company, is the reason you have Star Wars, and a whole host of other classic movies.
The replicants were revolving into a new form of replicant more human.
At the end gaff was there and didn't kill her he wanted Deckard to know that.
I think the lighting shot you asked about is possibly a combination of "low key" and "split source" shot.(Low key is used in many noir films!) It's generally a lighting shot used from 1 key source but with split they balance the lighting across the frame. Probably used a diffuser which softens and balances, and also ambient lighting balances and spreads.
Jordan Cronenweth was the cinematographer and used very hard lights, massive amounts of haze, people walking through lights, and moving lights throughout the film. He developed his own unique style, was cinematographer on Altered States, Stop Making Sense and Rattle and Hum, died much too young at 61 from Parkinson's Disease.
Edit: Just remembered that the style when used in relation to art is called "chiaroscuro" - it's using strong contrasts between light and dark.
Given the time of upload and taking into account the time it takes to edit and stuff, it's entirely possible that we watched this film simultaneously as I had just watched this earlier this week lol
For sure
'Blade Runner' was taken from a science fiction novella by Grandfather of Alternative William S. Burroughs. Burroughs also coined the terms 'Heavy Metal, Steely Dan and Throbbing Gristle'.
Also, Ridley Scott confirmed in interviews that Deckard and Rachel are both advanced Nexus replicants without expiration dates.
I can’t believe James is speechless! Never thought I see the day
One thing to maybe keep in mind while trying to figure out who is or isn't a replicant based off their reactions, the way they talk, etc. is that they wouldn't have had to invent a Voight-Kampff test if it was that easy. You're meant not to be able to tell who is or isn't a replicant just like that. That's totally part of that big question of the cyberpunk genre: What does "human" actually mean?
Just so you know, in the original Philip K. Dick novel, ‘Do Androids Dream Electric Sheep?' Deckard is NOT a Replicant. He also wasn't one in the original theatrical release of Blade Runner. Whether or not he is one in the Director's Cut is entirely subjective and left to the audience's imagination.
Never realized they were that different. I've only watched the theatrical cut. I've owned a copy of the director's cut for 25 yrs and I've never seen it. Great, got to track down a VHS player. Must have one laying around somewhere....LOL.
Aw, spoiler for the book! The question of his humanity does arise, and puts him into severe confusion, for a while.
Good job knucklehead they are getting ready to watch Bladerunner 2049 to find out and you just gave it away
No, it isn't. It is clearly stated in the movie. They implant memories in you. He has a unique memory. He knows the unique memories of Rachel that were implanted in her. Guff knows about his unique memory. This is not rocket science.
@@Dacre1000 The unicorn dream was added to the director's cut. It's not in the theatrical release. The theatrical release ends with Deckard and Rachel driving away together.
So, the studio executives felt that the movie was too cerebral and needed to be explained, so they gave Harrison Ford a script of narration voice over to read. Both Ford and Ridley Scott felt that the narration dumbed the movie down too much, so Harrison gave it the most uninspired readings that he could. The studio went with it anyway for the theatrical release. Even with the lowest-common-denominator writing and uninspired reading, it's the version of Blade Runner I grew up on, and I can't help but feel that the narration really does contribute to selling the Noir aspect of the film.
Unfortunately I also think that while half of it is interesting the other half does just explain too much. The voice over explaining to you why the Nexus spared Deckard´s life is almost insulting. I also think that Deckard being a replicant adds a thematic richness to the movie. Using leftovers of Kubrick´s Shining for the ending is funny tough. But I wish they made the theatrical cut as available as the Final one, like Coppola does with all the cuts of AN. I hate it, but I think people like you deserve to enjoy it if it is your jam without having to spend money on an expensive out of print deluxe version. WE could all be happy.
Based on the Science Fiction book 'Do Androids dream of electric Sheep'. A really great adaptation. We all bought the Vangelis soundtrack!
The whole point of the movie is that if you get robots (or replicants) up to a certain level, there is no difference between a replicant and a human.
This movie is epic and fascinating 1980's movies are very amazing.
Sean Young who played Rachael was in another great movie called "No Way Out "1987. Well worth watching.
1982 theatrical release of Blade Runner had narration by Harrison Ford. I actually like it. It’s not supposed to be big action sci-fi and that was what people expected. It’s neo noir. It’s a tired ex-cop gumshoe who is tracking down illegal replicants in LA. The narration provides insight and answers questions you had during the film. One of which is why Roy Batty saved Deckard‘s life in the end. It’s because in those last moments of Roy’s life, he understood that all life was precious. Including Deckard’s. He chose life as he died.
BTW, I listen to this soundtrack on nights I can’t sleep. Decades now. I’ve never owned another film soundtrack. This one is a timeless masterpiece and never fails to help me dream of electric sheep.
Dudes (24:13) If Replicant blood was _blue_ then you wouldn't need to do a hundred-question psychology test to identify one. You'd just have to take a blood sample and match it against a Home Depot paint swatch.
D'uh!
To answer you question...the aesthetic in cinema language for what is the cyberpunk look come a lot from Blade Runner, but the ideas mostly come from the work of Gibson like Neuromancer and Phillip K.Dick the author of the book who inspired Blade Runner... So many focus on the eyes and mirrors in this movie...The reflexion of the souls...
Replicants aren't robotic, they're biological. I was just as enthusiastic as you two were the first time I saw this neo-noire masterpiece. Great Review Guys!
There is hardly any movie that triggers so many different emotions in me at the same time : Blade Runner. For me simply a masterpiece without wanting to be one. ❤
"I've seen things you people wouldnt believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time like tears in rain."
So beautiful 😊
First, I wrote my thesis in grad school on this film and have interviewed Ridley Scott about it. I've also seen it about 50 times lol.
1) You guys did great with most of the themes and what was going on!
2) The four replicants on the run are Nexus 5, with 4 year lifespan, and no memories but their own. They act weird because they do not have the experience of life that you and I have to deal with their emotions. Think of it like this - they're full-grown, super human adults with the emotional age of a 4 year old.
3) Rachel is a Nexus 6 with implanted memories who, at first, thinks she's human.
4) All replicants are identical to humans - they are all made of flesh and bone. The only way to discern who is a replicant without dissecting them is the VK test.
5) You did great noticing the glowing eyes - that is not supposed to be "real" that others in the movies can see, just a clue as to who and who is not a replicant. Yes, Deckards' eyes do glow briefly in the scene with Rachel after Leon is killed.
It is postulated that Deckard is actually a Nexus 6 himself, or even a 7. Hell, his first moment of existence - of consciousness - might just be the first moment we see him in the movie. We can't know. Also, in the original cut of the movie with the infamous voice over, it is said that Rachel doesn't have a 4-year life span - that she has an unknown lifespan, like humans do. People assume Deckard does too, as he doesn't know he's a replicant until the end.
6) The unicorn by Gaff tells Deckard that Gaff has access to Deckard's memories and dreams, and is therefore a replicant himself.
7) The reason why Roy doesn't kill Deckard is because he wants a witness to his own death - "I was here, dammit, I mattered." Roy didn't plan that, but you can see in his eyes when Deckard is about to fall that he realizes that all life is precious - even that of there human who has killed 3 of his friends.
There are some wonderful books out there on the movie, and some great articles and critiques. Search them out if you're interested.
Blade Runner 2049 is a sequel and it is a masterpiece, just like the original. Glad you liked it!
Gentleman, Replicants are not "robots" they are genetically engineered "humans"
Soundtrack is FIRE, the artist Vangelis composed the whole soundtrack.
The great debate of our times... is Deckard a replicant or not? Depending on who you ask, or which cut of the film you watch, you get a different take on it. The very fact that it's still being argued now, over 40 years later, is testament to the genius of this film.
There's a lot of Asian influences present in the aesthetics of cyberpunk. It has a lot to do with Japan's economic boom, which was ongoing when the major foundational works of the genre were being developed. Looking into the near future at the time, it seemed like Japan would be leading the east in a technological revolution.
As the boom faded, newer works in the genre maintained the surface-level aesthetic connections, but generally dropped or ignored the pretext in the plot connections, which has lead to some reasonable critiques of the genre for employing orientalism. After all, some of the most recognizable visual aspects of Cyberpunk are the street gangs using futuristic katana, neon kanji on every sign, and ramen stands on every corner. When those elements are divorced from the idea of a dominant Japanese economy universally shifting global culture through the strength of their tech innovations (in the same the way the US has exported its culture), they can seem a little bit fetishized.
On the other hand, though, there are a lot of enduring cyberpunk franchises still creating new content, still building on worlds that were established with Japan featuring a new cultural superpower. Those works earned their influences, and as long as those franchises are still active, you're going to keep seeing street samurai and electric geisha.
So that's a lot of words just to say that "Japanesey stuff" is a key aesthetic component of Cyberpunk as a genre despite being almost completely divorced from the themes of transhumanism and corporate greed that typically inform the narratives of the stories (in fact, works that use those without that meaning almost exemplify the dehumanizing corporatism that cyberpunk so frequently rails against).
Watched this movie as a kid. I had no idea what it was about, but I wanted to live in that cool looking future and be as cool as Harrison Ford.
Come on guys, it literally says in the opening crawl that the Nexus phase introduced the replicants, which were beings "virtually indistinguishable from a human". Why would you think they're literal robots when it even shows later the dude who makes their eyes, which appear biological and the dude calls himself a genetic designer. They're not mechanical robots, they're biological creations.
Awesome film and soundtrack, i have the 5 disc, 5 version metal box DVD release, amazing, so many vocal samples used in songs over the years from this film, like the Wake up time to die bit, and the end monologue, time to die