Anyone want to see GATTACA or Elvis? BLADE RUNNER (1982): ruclips.net/video/HgulpbCUJNs/видео.html DUNE: ruclips.net/video/BcH01Nrwyoc/видео.html SCI FI PLAYLIST: ruclips.net/p/PLQHhQlj8i5doQmNbYogcJTYZkxhGMHpah
One of the best sequels ever made in my opinion, a film that no one wanted to be made, but ended up being a masterpiece regardless. Fantastic performances, otherworldly sound design and score, and truly stunning cinematography that deservedly won Roger Deakins his first Oscar
I didn't even know that this movie was made until like a year after its release. I blame the marketing side of things. Hollywood spends a lot on marketing, how come long-term fans of the original didn't know anything?
2049 is not really a masterpiece as it suffers too much flaws ..... there's a lot of big empty spaces which I suspect is out of laziness to put in the details from the director , its trying to be stylish by omitting a lot of the necessary dystopian visual details and textures (its too smooth and soft) for example the entertainment district to the casino should be a lot more detailed with big ad displays instead of being so empty and the casino itself is almost unscathed with it should have a lot of broken windows, moldy peeling walls, loose hanging wires etc ..... The original remains the masterpiece that fleshed out the cyberpunk genre, so many great directors, writers, artists, musicians, philosophers etc quotes the 1982 movie as their big inspiration .... The sequel had a lot of great artist conceptual artworks that the director failed to reproduce on the screen, sadly, hopefully in the next one they will do the original masterpiece justice .... (by the way, the sequel is still a good movie though, but I suspect any directors would have made a beautiful atmospheric sequel given the blueprint provided by the first movie to follow, the visual styles and music vibe is so iconic that it would take a very bad director to produce a "not beautiful" sequel so I think 2049 basically did the bare minimal which means it failed to fulfill a lot of potential of what it could have been ...
@@88feji2049 is far superior to the original in many ways. The story and the script is amazing, the visuals are stunning, one of if not the best looking movies ever made. The original is a cop story with a moral quandry, which is good but basic. This story is complex, with shifting character roles (K goes from a possible hero, possible special "chosen one", to nothing, and still decides to die for the right cause, showing despite being "just a replicant", he had morales.) It's a much more nuanced and complex script, and it blows the original out of the water, and this is coming from someone who loves the original film.
Bees... I wish to tell this. Years ago, I was on a bus to work, when a bee got trapped in the vehicle. The bee tried to get out, of course, but, at some point, it merely sat on the window pane next to me, maybe exhausted. I held a finger against the glass, and it promptly crawled onto the finger, where it sat, patiently, for the next five minutes. It didn't make a stir, while I got up and left the bus at my stop. As soon as we got out, the bee flew away. There's no special meaning behind this story, beyond maybe the trust the little creature put into me. Bees are amazing, I think. That was an awesome reaction, to this and the first Blade Runner. Thank you for sharing the experience!
The author of the book wrote Deckard as a Human. Harrison Ford played Deckard that way as he believed Deckard to be human. Ridley Scott, however, believed Deckard was a replicant. This is why he put the Unicorn dream and oragami in the movie. Significantly, the director of this movie, was determined not to take either side.
Can't remember who it was, but someone said Ridley edited in the unicorn stuff after a drinking session when he decided Deckard was a replicant. It's kinda dumb and removes the whole point of the story, that Roy and Rachel are more in touch with their humanity than Deckard, the real human, and they show him what it means to be alive.
@@christianwise637 Hampton Fancher, the principal screenwriter of the original and co-writer of the sequel, does _not_ believe that Deckard definitely was human. Some people love to misquote Fancher out of context to try to make his statement that he wrote Deckard as human into a different, positive claim that Deckard was human. In context, though, what Fancher was saying was that the ambiguity over whether Deckard is or is not a replicant is an essential part of the story, that he did not like it when Scott added elements in later editions of the first film that made it very difficult to read Deckard as possibly human, and that he had always, in contrast, written Deckard as human (e.g. not ever engaging in any of the superhuman feats that the unambiguous replicants do) in order to preserve the ambiguity over whether Deckard was or was not human. Fancher has not said that his intention was that Deckard was definitely human and definitely not a replicant.
Denis Villeneuve uses sound SO well in his films. Sicario, Arrival, & Dune all use music and sound effects as intense world building tools. Just incredible sound design.
Message of the film: Cherish the life that has been gifted to you, because each story always reaches its end, whether on rainy rooftop or softly falling snow. ❄❄❄❄
joe enjoying real snow, while deckard's daughter is imagining fake snow, symbol of him enjoying human life while the girl didn't even when she is a human he made real memories, he looked back on past experiences before deciding to be human and die for the right cause
Gattaca is amazing. Written by Andrew Niccol, who was also responsible for either writing, directing and/or producing The Truman Show (Carrey, Harris, Linney), Lord Of War(Cage, Leto, Hawke), The Terminal(Spielberg, Hanks, Williams), S1m0ne(Pacino, Keener), and In Time(Timberlake, Seyfried)…all worth watching.
Gattaca is one of those sci-fi movies where key aspects of it have already kinda become reality with the mapping of the human genome and CRISPR. Makes it all the more prescient and worth watching
"What is real?" An important question posed by both Blade Runner movies. 2049 goes next level, with Joi - a hologram with no sentience, K - a replicant who thinks he's a real boy, and Ana - a hybrid born of replicant and human. Of each it subtly asks, what is real, and what does it matter? Joi is real to K, as was his love for her, right up until the moment he is slapped in the face with the fact that she was only telling him what he wanted to hear. Staring up into the giant neon projection of his love, naked and for sale, is such a powerful shot. Denis Villenueve was the perfect choice to direct.
It is not definite in the movie that Joi is not sentient and that the love between her and K is not real. Just as replicants do not start with emotions but can develop them through their life experiences, so too it is entirely consistent with this movie that Joi was capable of developing into something/someone more “real” than she was in her initial, as-built state. Joi just before she dies has received tech upgrades and lived through many experiences with K. The reality that K is slapped with later in the movie when he sees the Joi advert is not necessarily that his Joi was never any more “real” than the advertised Joi, but can just as well be read as the recognition that his Joi had become someone much more real than she was at first when she was just like the product in the advertisement, and that there is no way to buy a new Joi and recover his Joi in the state that she had arrived at through a unique and unrepeatable life. As is so often true in the Blade Runner universe, the story is ambiguous and demands that you ask difficult questions about what is real or genuinely unique, exclusive and valuable in humanity.
It is NOT a fact that she was telling him only what he wanted to hear. At the end of the day we don't know. But the scene with giant hologram was important to give reality check to those who thought by this point that she is definitely "human". Without hologram her story line would be too sweet and "real".
@@markhamstra1083That scene hits hard because Joi was real and though he can easily replace her with another girl who looks identical and comes with the same base programming, the truth is that she was fully conscious and sentient and that she was real because of her memories and their experiences together which would be missing if he got a new girl. She died like a real girl, and to see the same woman (in appearance) reciting the same preprogramed lines (like calling him a good Joe) but in a different context and without memories she would essentially be a stranger. It's masterfully written
@@alexeyserov5709 It's the opposite. The hologram scene reinforces how real she was, because he could replace her with a clone but a clone isn't the real thing. We are more as humans than our base programming. It's our memories, lived experiences and personalities that develop from these that make us who we are and they inform our developed relationships over time. He could easily purchase a new Joi and set her up with the same base settings, but it wouldn't be her because the aforementioned factors would be missing. If your wife died and you could get a clone of her who doesn't know you or remember anything she wouldn't be your wife. She wouldn't be real like your wife was. A clone replacement wouldn't be real for K like Joi was
An absolute masterpiece and a love-letter to the original. Usually, when so much time passes between sequels, franchises lose their way, but they couldn't have done a better job in capturing the film noir, cyberpunk aesthetic and pacing of the first movie, while also keeping its spirit alive.
Gattaca is AMAZING. in fact, it became a thing in policy circles to talk about “The Gattaca Effect” to describe genetic discrimination. The film Gattaca actually led to legislative changes in the US. This film is about evolution. The idea that a born replicant has a soul asks the question, “do all replicants have souls.” They are no longer what they were, they are real beings now. The bit with Joi is important as a criticism of AI and believing what you want to believe. Did his Joi really love him, or was it as the giant ad version of her says that she can be whoever you want. Did she only love him because he wanted so badly to believe it?
The scene where K sees the giant hologram advertisement of Joi and realises that her emotions for him are all stemmed from a core programming she gets on the production line actually broke my heart.
Frankly, I felt Gosling could have showed a little more look of heart broken realisation at the bridge scene ... yes, he's kind of chemically castrated by humans to feel less emotions but still his face is a little too blank which takes away the impact of the scene ....
you could translate it that way, but you could also say this. K can never get another Joi. Joi did start as that same coded AI hologram, but K and his Joi have experienced many, many things together, developing something more "real". Throughout their journey she continued to ongo more developments and built something more "human-like" towards K, and at the end, She died like a real girl, and she was irreplaceable at that point. He simply realized that even if he got brand new Joi, she simply wouldn't be the same. Joi he knew and loved is gone forever.
2049 is a hell of a movie. It's a rare sequel that lives up to the original. It is similar enough, it captures the feel, but it's also a new story that explores a new aspect of the ethics of replicants.
Philip K. Dick stated in an interview (see 1) that Dick created Deckard as a human character who is gradually dehumanized through his violence towards replicants. "The purpose of this story as I saw it was that in his job of hunting and killing these replicants, Deckard becomes progressively dehumanized. At the same time, the replicants are being perceived as becoming more human. Finally, Deckard must question what he is doing, and really what is the essential difference between him and them? And, to take it one step further, who is he if there is no real difference?”
But PKD also said that he had no problem with the movie taking a different path for Deckard to turn out to be a replicant .... he felt that where the movie diverts from his book are still viable options for the story to be developed in a different direction from his book ... although personally he had chosen for Deckard to be human ... ... so basically the author does accept and acknowledge how the movie's vision is different from his book in some ways, he even said that the final script is a work of genius in its own right and he cried when reading the script's ending .... its miles better than at the beginning when he first read and got quite upset with the initial scripts before the script revisions by David Peoples ...
@@88feji well, let’s just go with logic then. In order for the concept of deck, Card, being a replicant to even be considered, just following the story, Deckard is, somehow the most advanced replicant of all, and nobody seems to know that. It doesn’t make any sense.
Yes this film was amazing in the cinema. Very few people went to see it unfortunately. The music, cinematography and slow pacing really immersed me. I love how they've upped the stakes from BR by introducing a holographic girlfriend and asking the audience if she's "real" too?
This was the last film I saw in the cinema. I absolutely loved it. My local cinema was showing the original Blade Runner at the same time so I managed to see them both on the same day.
It was absolutely a shame to go to both screenings of these Blade Runner films and turn around just before showtime only to see a 90% empty theater each time.😔 Same with “Ghost in the Shell” (which was not that great, but Still almost nobody showed up!), and “Alita: Battle Angel”, where having James Cameron’s name associated didn’t help it enough to receive any of the all important sequels...😬 Cyberpunk is too smart for the average audience it seems sadly.😐
Part of the problem for the Box Office was that the movie was too long. Not in an artistic sense, but in a showings per day sense. Villenueve even admitted as much saying he had made the biggest budget arthouse film of all time. But he was determined to make the right movie first and deal with the effects later.
The more times I watch this, the more blown away I am by Sylvia Hoeks' performance as Luv! Absolutely brilliant casting! Her hair and wardrobe look amazing and she acts the sh** out of being Wallace's angel..... 'the best' replicant! Even her face acting when she's being throttled to death by Joe in the flooded car! A supporting actor's masterclass! Brilliant
The score at the end while Joe is dying on the snow is exactly the same as when Roy gives his iconic “teardrops in the rain” speech at the end of the original BR. This is a beautiful piece of cinema. Also there’s a set of four or five animated short films that explains the whole sequence of events between BR and BR49, including the great blackout. They’re included in the DVD/BR “extras”. Highly recommended. Gattaca is one of my all-time SciFi faves. You HAVE to see it.
I dunno…that’s one of the things I feel like reactors really miss out on with sequels…the wait time in between when we all talk about the first one with each other, laugh over and over at the same jokes, building a shared love of cultural references, and eager anticipation of all the payoffs.
Seeing this in the theatre was unreal. The final scene in the water was overwhelming on every level. I couldn't even think, it was just sensory overload, in the best way.
Pretty much every shot in this movie could be a wallpaper. Most beautifully shot movie of the last 20+ years. Denis Villeneuve and the great Roger Deakins are such a winning combo. So happy I got to see this on IMAX when it came out !
For some reason, the Wallace Inc. jingle is the opening from Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf." Idk why. As for the future, the water might be "99.9% non toxic," but they still have Jack Daniel's and Johnny Walker Black, so some things do live on.
There's a long post about this on Reddit, titled, "Theory: The significance of the Peter and the Wolf ringtone in Blade Runner 2049 'spoilers'". Most people seem to agree with the person's theories
Hi Jen. First up, keep an eye out for the Amazon Prime series Blade Runner 2099, coming sometime in the next few years. It's going to be a sequel to the previous movies and has Ridley Scott and one of the writers as executive producers. It's also rumoured that Ryan Gosling will be appearing in a new role. Second, a fun fact: Composer Hans Zimmer wanted to have a similar sound palette as Vangelis used in parts of the movie, so he sourced a Yamaha CS-80 Synthesizer which Vangelis used for the brass sounds. Back when Vangelis bought it the keyboard cost around £5000, but when Zimmer bought a good condition one secondhand it cost him closer to £40000! Thirdly, when I saw it in the cinema on its original release I came out to be faced with a sky the exact same orange colour as in the Las Vegas scenes! No, it wasn't an extreme publicity stunt, but a storm in the Sahara desert had whipped up a load of sand and dust and transported it all the way to the UK to produce the spectacular scene. It just happened to be the day I went to see BR2049.
Another great reaction video! It's interesting that, when considering the question of whether a replicant has a soul, you went back to Roy Batty saving Deckard and then delivering his "tears in the rain" speech. If you'll remember, Roy was holding a white dove in his hand at the moment he died and there is a shot of the dove then flying skyward as it is released from Roy's grip. It has been opined by many that the dove flying skyward was intended to be symbolic of a soul leaving Roy's body at the moment of his death. You also posed the question of what the overall message of this movie might be. For me, it is related to a comment the leader of the replicant freedom movement made to K, saying that dying for a cause they believed in was the most human thing they could do. K dying at the end, having sacrificed himself to save Deckard and bring him to meet his daughter, has always struck me as the act that was foreshadowed by that statement. In that moment, K was the most human character in the movie. BTW, if you want to see another really entertaining Ryan Gosling movie, I would recommend "The Nice Guys".
21:30 I loved so many things about this movie, but I think Carla Juri deserves a special shout-out for her performance here. In less than five minutes of screen time, she brought me closer to tears than anyone or anything else in the film.
For those that notice details, you know Ryan Gossling is about to die because the scene reuses the same Vangelis "tears in rain" music that Roy Batty dies to in the first Blade Runner.
I loved how Joe/K made the decision to help Deckard even after finding out he wasn’t the miracle child/his son. After a life of servitude, he took control of his own destiny and made a *human* decision
I remember I was scared of this sequel when they first announced it, I thought it'd be a huge disappointment - I'm glad to say I was wrong! It's a fantastic film, and also simply gorgeous! There were some shorts released before the movie came out, you should watch those, they're very good and also help explain the "missing" period. Also, Wallace is human and blind, he has implants to help him "see" the product.
Hans Zimmer is one of the best composers ever and he was the the one who did the music here. Great sequel, where like the first one, it still left you with questions maybe for good conversation afterwards. So glad that Harrison agreed to do this. Great review as always. I did watch the first one with you if I didn't type anything. Peace and love my friend!!!!
Loved the sound design in this movie. Two of the sounds (the incoming message and "mesa" - when K and his girl go out for a flight) serve as my e-mail tone and morning alarm.
Mad Max: Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049 are great examples of sequels to amazing movies that released decades after the original which pulls off the impossible of being better than the originel or living up to hype. There's no doubt other examples but most cases studios just end up rebooting a film instead of creating a sequel for example the awful Robocop and Total Recall reboot, Reboots can be amazing though if done well. On the topic of returning to classic movies there was meant to be a Batman Beyond film featuring an older Michael Keaton (Tim Burton Batman) who oversees a young Terry McGinnis taking up the mantle of Batman. Batman Beyond is very retro 1980s/1990s Cyberpunk so think of the setting of Blade Runner but set in a Neo Gotham with Batman so it would've been like a mix of Tim Burtons amazing Gothic Revival Gotham City meets Blade Runner's Retro Cyberpunk. This was all based on the Batman Beyond 1999 cartoon an original idea that was a spin off from the Batman Animated Series featuring the same voice actors etc. Edit: Top Gun: Maverick can't believe I forgot about this film.
Just for yourself. They made some short , in-between world building. Like an animation, ( less then ten minutes) and introduced Wallace. And a what lead to the beginning of the movie. ( They are on RUclips) . Explains a bit of whst has happened since 2019
The first release of the original Bladerunner had a film noir/gumshoe detective narration explaining things. Harrison did that voice over. In the end scene where Deckard & Rachael are leaving his apartment, the voice over states Tyrell told Deckard that Rachael was special and had no incept date. On the roof when Batty saves Deckard, the voice over adds a dimension when it gives a reason as to why Batty saved his enemy. When the film was re-released with the narration track removed, I couldn't help thinking they had mutilated a masterpiece and the film as a whole lost an important element. Another great reaction Jen, I'm glad you enjoyed this movie and as always, I look forward to your next video 😎😎
I saw it in the theater. This film left me sitting in my seat for a while after it was over. The rest of the evening I just kept thinking about life - meaning, purpose, love, the difficult and complex nature of reality etc. I love this film and consider it the greatest sci-fi next to Terminator 2 and Aliens. The film score was magnificent too. I ended up writing a summation after having seen it a second time: "There was no real decoy. It was purely on paper. K/Joe is utterly, completely, unequivocally unremarkable, thus his name, Joe... as in Average Joe. Joi does not possess a soul. She is completely fake. She is the other side of the Replicant coin and is made solely to please and coddle her owner/lover. Her entire branding scheme is that she'll be anything you want. Joi is K's fleeting dream of being special -- to be human, or as he put it, "to have a soul" -- so she always reinforced this to him. Just before Luv crushed her emanator she made sure to tell him "I love you!" Wallace posed a question about whether Deckard was moved by love or by programming. To me there's no doubt whatsoever Deckard is fully human. The original movie is about a bad man finding his humanity through the grace of a machine. Wallace's question is not a literal "Are you human or machine?" question, but pondering what the difference is; if love is just neurochemistry, and if we are products of biological programming or something higher, like a soul. The ultimate takeaway is that it really does not matter. In fact the only thing that matters is what we choose to do with our lives. We find and create our own meaning and purpose. In summary, 2049 is about dreams and delusions. K wants desperately to feel special so Joi tells him this constantly and he quickly assumes all the evidence points to him because it's his dream. He becomes deluded and forces himself into the situation even as it destroys him. He thinks this is what it means to be human - to grapple with one's humanity. Then upon meeting Freysa, K comes to learn that in fact he is not special after all. Not born but manufactured. He is torn between two sides telling him what his identity is and should be; the LAPD who informs his identity as that of a slave, and the resistance which informs his identity as that of a free Replicant. When K comes across the giant pink Joi on the bridge, she says to him "You look like a good Joe". He then realizes that not even the name his Joi gave him was special. Her feelings for him were never real... just programming. K, at this point an emotionally heartbroken broken Replicant. It is in this moment that he chooses to follow his own path and not let anyone tell him who he is or what he should do. He makes the most human decision of all and takes his life into his own hands. He saves Deckard for the same reason Roy did in the first Blade Runner. He wanted someone to remember him, for his final decision that fully validates him as human to not be in vain. No one else gave him his identity, only he did, and his sacrifice ensured forever that he was by every metric a human being, even if the world would ultimately forget him."
Another movie you could check out is Soldier (1998) with Kurt Russell. It may or may not be in the Blade Runner/Alien universe. The writer intended for it to be in the Blade Runner universe from what I heard.
Maybe... Also, in Aliens, there was an easter egg referencing the Tyrell Corp. As for the universe of all of the mentioned films in this thread, I've read different answers from people involved in the films ranging from them being set in the same universe to being in different universes.
I had the privilege of seeing both the first and second Blade Runner back to back in IMAX when 2049 premiered. It was one of the single greatest cinematic experiences I’ve ever had. The final confrontation with Luv at the end was even more intense that I didn’t even realize I was holding my breath.
Another great video, Jen! I love your "Wisdom Nuggets"! I've become a huge fan of the director of this film, Denis Villeneuve (like you, from Canada!). His films are beautiful to look at and the man definitely knows how to compose a shot. You saw his "Dune", but I also highly recommend "Sicario", "Arrival", and one of his earlier films, "Polytechnique", which is a sad, intense movie about an unfortunate chapter in Canadian history. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
There are some short Blade Runner animated stories that explain why the weather was like that and the water scene were the villain lady in white drowned thats the coast of California and the big walls are to keep the city safe from rising sea levels...
There are three very short films (animated and live action) that explain key events in 2022, 2036, & 2048 (including that blackout) which were released leading up to this 2049 film.
I was happily living hand to mouth from my gifted camper in near Valby Park in Sydhavn Copenhagen Denmark just playing jazz piano for a living after my Divorce in Italy in 2015. I really couldn't afford it but the year this came out I went to a pretty well attended midweek matiné . As the end credits came up on the big screen we half full theater all stood spontaneously and aplauded. I love the Danes.
First time I saw the movie, I just waited throughout the movie for Harrison Fords appearance. The ending scene really got to me. They should had shown us more of Dr. Ana Stelline played by Carla Juri.
It sounds weird but I love how bleak this film is. Particularly Joii experiencing the rain for the first time. It's just so sad but beautiful at the same time and multiple scenes have that feel.
"Don't give your dog liquor". 😄 When I was a kid, dad would occasionally pour some vodka for our German Shepherd. She loved it, would come begging when people were outside drinking. She used to kill snakes all the time too, like it was her life's mission. Good 'ole country doggo.
The music at the end is the 'Tears-in-Rain' music from the first movie. That is a huge sea wall built along a major Los Angeles Boulevard (Sepulveda Blvd) to keep the rising Pacific out. The space port is the old LAX airport (the actual airport is built atop a 'hill/bluff' so it will become and 'island' when the sea levels rise). It's the same, external question- What is real... >>>>There are three 'mini-movies' that fill in the 30 years between the two movies< One of them explains the black-out. One explains why Sapper isolates himself and how he is tracked down. The last one explains how Wallace takes over Tyrell and begins to create these 'new' replicants
I love how Kay in the end made the same choice as Roy in the first movie, to make his last act the most human thing he could have possibly done. And the snow mirroring the falling rain in the original Blade Runner. Denis Villeneuve is just such a master storyteller.
There are three short films set between Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049 that fill in some of your questions, especially about the Blackout. All three are on RUclips. Search for Blade Runner 2022, Blade Runner 2036, and Blade Runner 2048. Denis Villeneuve didn't direct them, but he was involved with their production. They are all considered canon in the Blade Runner universe as far as I know.
There are some new advertisements that utilize directional audio so when you look at it, you'll hear the ad as well as see it. There are also digital ads where when you look at a character in the ad, it comes alive, but only for you, the ad is static for other people who haven't "engaged" it yet. This future is well within our time, it's just gonna be a lot less neon and pretty
WOW! So fast. I love that you watch series. I hate when reactors are like "we watched John Wick 1 5 years ago and now we are back. I remember loving it. But I don't remember it."
MVP: 39:50 cat arms! low key MVP: 41:46 being extra canadian "stand oot" presumably in honour of director Denis Villeneuve the worst: Jared Leto (not his character lol just as a person) Stunning movie though seriously, Villeneuve just does not miss!
Oh, and just some fun, many of the character names in this are references. Sapper Morton (Dave Bautista) is a reference to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, or lingusitic relativity, which says that language shapes perception of reality. The theory is also cited in Arrival. Ana Stelline is a reference to a process in architecture called Anastylosis, which involves incorporation of parts of old ruined buildings into the new building that replaces them--kinda like what she does with memories. Neander Wallace's headquarters architecture is based on actual designs for a Neanderthal museum that was suppose to be built in Spain, but was never completed. And of course the fact that Joi is an illusion and Luv destroys Joi is probably just a reflection of Villeneuve's sometimes bleak outlook on life.
I went into this in the cinema with pretty low expectations, the first one was so good, my top all time film. But I have to say, this film blew me away, such a clever carry over from the first film, there is actually something important to add to what we experienced before. I had never seen Ryan Gosling before and didn't know what to expect but he really carried this film, such a low key performance until he meets the dream-maker and is confronted by the possibility that he is the child - he practically explodes, I think everyone jumped in the cinema! This film takes it's time to tell it's story but I can see why some people wouldn't have the patience to sit through. It is so rewarding if you invest a little of yourself in it though. Luv is a great character too, you spotted that she has tears in her eyes at key points - when Niander kills the new-born replicant and when she confronts 'madam' - why? Is it because she so desperately wants to please Niander or she hates what she is 'forced' to do through her programming? A brave film that doesn't spell everything out, you have to think about what you are seeing and hearing (great sound design and track too). Denis Villeneuve is an awesome director, the two Dune films and 'Arrival' are well worth your time too (I didn't get Arrival first time round but have since changed my mind, it is brilliant).
You ask so many great questions along the way...I never even questioned if Deckert was a replicant himself, but assumed he was human. Did you notice that the music played when Joe died is a reprise of Tears In Rain from the first film...
4:42- This was the start of me liking Ryan Gosling roles for me and the start of him doing these effortless and emotionless action movie roles. 28:00- Told ya. No emotion. Love it.
Did you notice that Lieutenant Joshi used to be Princess Buttercup and Forest Gump's Jenny? Also, the Origami Dude is also Admiral Adama in Battlestar Galactica. If you've never seen it and are up for a long trip, it's definitely worth the price of admission.
Yes, watching it in the theater was amazing, especially the soundtrack. The fight at the seawall and the closing titles music are the best. Horner did a very good job capturing the mood of Vangelis' original work. I knew this movie was going to be something special in the opening scene at the farm because I immediately recognized it as the opening scene in an early draft of Francher's screenplay for the first movie. It gave me chills and I started giggling.
The only clue to the big twist is that when K goes to the orphanage, you can see that only the girls get to keep their hair while all the boys are shaved. But in the flashback, K has a full head of hair
Fantastic reaction Jen This is an awesome sequel. The director Denis Villeneuve is a fellow Canadian 🍁 and also did the new Dune. I feel so bad for K. I want know why the replicant Luv was so loyal to Niander wallace. She seemed afraid of him. However her behavior at times was like a Terminator. It makes more sense for Rachel to be the unicorn. Here is why: In the orginal movie when Deckard finds the origami unicorn the camera focuses in on it and simultaneously the audience hears (again) the line "Its to bad she won't live" intentionally bringing your attention to Rachel in that moment. Why would they simultaneously show the unicorn and repeat that line about Rachel if its not related? Of course it's related. They repeated that line multiple times so the audience will question it. Clearly for good reason as we now know she didn't have a set death date. However what makes Rachel the real unicorn is that she was the only known replicant capable of having children. This difference made her even more human. Deckard and Rachel created the miracle that is Ana. Rachel's ability to have children is what Niander wallace is trying to recreate and failing. Niander's behavior is very disturbing. He is clearly a sociopath. Especially when he just casually kills a new replicant like she meant nothing. This is because to him she is useless unless capable of biological reproduction like Rachel. He wants to be a God. I think the only opinion whether Deckard is human or replicant that really matters belongs to the original author, and he wrote Deckard as human. He did this to highlight the similarities between humans and replicants. Definitely watch Gattaca
Hi Jen Murray, there are three very good "shorts" prequels to this movie that are each individually very good, and they fill in a lot of back-story to this 2049 movie.
I arrived late for this reaction Jen, but here all the same! Better late than never...right? Thank you Jen for doing these two great films, back to back, really makes them more relevant and powerful! LOVED both reactions Jen. Thank you again for all your hard work...Eric
Hi Eric. Sorry about my Radio Silence the other day, I wasn't feeling really chatty. Shree is about to Premiere "Leon: The Professional." Wanna come and hang out..?
You said that Deckard living in the radioactive wasteland was evidence that he was a replicant, but that's incorrect. When K arrives in Vegas, his scans indicate that the radiation level is nominal, ie. it is very low. Vegas was hit by a dirty bomb a long time ago, which is why it's abandoned, but by 2049 the fallout has mostly all gone. Whether Deckard is a human or a replicant with an open-ended lifespan is left completely ambiguous in this movie.
It’s also ambiguous whether Las Vegas is always free from high radiation or whether that just happens to be the case on the particular day when K shows up due to local weather conditions. There may well be drifting clouds of radiation, fallout sand and dust, etc. that change with the weather. As with much else in these movies, you can leave this open and ambiguous, or try to force a single, closed narrative.
2049 had a couple short films and specials released in the lead up to the films launch that provide some background info on things like Sapper, the Blackout and similar. Worth watching as supplemental companion material to the film. There is currently a Bladerunner 2099 series in the works that will pick up as a follow up, though what the exact story of that will be isn't known.
I've never seen Blade Runner in the theater but I made sure to watch 2049 there. It was such a wonderful experience with the music and sound design! It also looked amazing on the big screen.
I imagine the reason Wallace sliced the new replicant’s abdomen was because she was just a blank sample of the new run. She had no personality, or memories, she was just a sample. Wallace sliced her abdomen because that is where the womb is, and that’s the one frontier he has yet to conquer, unlike Tyrell. Tyrell’s accomplishment of replicants that can reproduce was lost, and Wallace Industries can’t produce enough replicants to provide slave labor to all the industries of Earth, the nine off world colonies, and all assumed planetoid/asteroidal mining operations, without being able to supplement production through breeding.
The reason why the first Blade runner had such great sound and music. Is because the master was at the helm and is name was Vangelis. He was a Greek composer, he did several amazing movie soundtracks. I love the idea of the Joi holo companion too. The guy playing Sapper Morton was in Dune as Beast Glossu Rabban Harkonnen.
Rachael only had no expiration date in the "happy ending" that was added after test audiences did not like the ending that cuts off when they walk into the elevator. The original and intended ending was the one you saw in the Final Cut which leaves us to assume she had the same short lifespan as any replicant. The original film has 5 official versions: The Workprint Version, The Theatrical and International Versions, the Director's Cut, and the Final Cut (which gave Scott full control that he did not have for the so-called Director's Cut). The first three don't have the Unicorn Dream, Theatical and International versions add a voice-over narration and the "happy" ending, The Director's and Final Cut add the Unicorn Dream, but they go back to the original elevator ending. Another cut, the San Diego sneak preview version added three minor scenes but those scenes have not been added to any version since the sneak preview in 1982. There is a video floating around the internet with some other delated scenes like Dekard visiting Holden in the hospital.
There is something very special and truly unique about both Blade Runner movies. Oh, and by the way, same director (Vileneuve) and same composer (Zimmer) as Dune.
“Maybe I’m going to find out if he is a replicant or not.” Only if Hampton Fancher didn’t do his job well. Fancher was the principal screenwriter of the first film and one of the co-writers of this film. He has been quite clear that the ambiguity in the question of whether or not Deckard is a replicant is essential to the story. Therefore, the story is carefully written to preserve that ambiguity and for the question to remain open and unresolvable. I think that Fancher and Michael Green did their jobs very well and fulfilled their intention, so if you think Deckard definitely is or definitely is not a replicant, then this says more about you than about the movie.
@@jenmurrayxo Did you notice all the little clues left in the film that K's digital girlfriend, Joi, was truly sentient, unlike all the other Joi programs? 😉 Her death was quite sad knowing she was actually alive and the next step in AI evolution and K didn't realize it.
Just a quick answer to your music question. The score to the original 1982 Bladerunner was done by "Vangelis." That was over 40 years before Bladerunner 2049 was made. The score for 2049 was mostly done by Hans Zimmer. If you really want a deep dive into the plot(s), try and get hold of the original theatrical version shown in 1982. It was fully narrated by Harrison Ford and gives many extra clues to your questions.
FANTASTIC movie + reaction! (IMHO) a very worthy sequel to Blade Runner. Amazing music by Hans Zimmer, and incredible, Oscar-winning cinematography by Roger Deakins. Definitely watch "Gattaca", great writing, great acting, great film-making. Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman got married a couple years after filming :)
Again, music should really be MVP. For the longest time, the Vangelis soundtrack of the original was my all time fave. This soundtrack has since supplanted it as my new fave. As with “Dune”, this soundtrack was composed by Hans Zimmer. He had help from Benjamin Wallfisch, who also composed the soundtrack to the latest version of Stephen King’s “It” (which came out about the same time as this movie). One aspect of the Blade Runner universe that doesn’t get discussed much is the climate situation. In the original, the rain was constant, suggesting a certain amount of damage to the world’s climate. In this version, the rain is now snow (probably just because the director is Canadian and has grown up with it) and sea levels have elevated to the point where sea walls are needed to keep coastal cities from being underwater. Either way, a powerful statement of where we’re headed meteorologically. And don’t know if you noticed, but the farmer that K killed at the beginning was Dave Bautista, ‘Drax’ from “Guardians of the Galaxy” (and ‘Beast Rabban’ in “Dune”).
'Breathtaking' watchalong with you, thanks for this one. Yeah, I've admired Gosling ever since I saw him in Half Nelson long ago. Even the producers, who already felt they had a good script, felt like they won the lottery when he auditioned and elevated their material. Anthony Hopkins says he's the best actor he's ever worked with (they were in Fracture (2007)) and is definitely worth a watch.
Apparently Amazon are making a Blade Runner series starring Jodie Comer. And as for the music, it was incredible in the theatre, but REALLY loud. After the end of the movie I was standing outside the cinema, and I could STILL hear it, lol.
Gattaca is also a very good movie... not up to par with the Bladerunners, but still very enjoyable... and a somewhat chilling look at a possible future. I would also suggest a Kurt Russel movie called "Soldier". It takes place in the same world as Bladerunner... though also no where near as good as them. However, it is very enjoyable, and you will never see a better example of non-verbal acting than what Kurt gives in that.
Highly recommend Vangelis as an epic musical artist in general. Did music for the first Blade Runner movie and the sound in this second one catches his style very well, I think.
I got to see this in the theater. I purposely went on a Sunday afternoon when there wouldn't be a crowd. There were six people there, all guys. Sci fi nerds. It was great!
when the replicant pleasure woman was synced to the holo-girl she saw there was not much there. even though it appeared she had feeling for "Joe" she was just following her A.I. programming. "Joe" realized this when the hologram add looked down at him and said "...you look like a good Joe."
Rachael having no expiration date was tacked on the theatrical release to give the movie a happy ending. It was removed in the Directors Cut to return the film to what he had originally intended. You can decide which you prefer.
Anyone want to see GATTACA or Elvis?
BLADE RUNNER (1982): ruclips.net/video/HgulpbCUJNs/видео.html
DUNE: ruclips.net/video/BcH01Nrwyoc/видео.html
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Gattaca is fantastic sci-fi noir. You'll love it, Jen! 😊
I think you might enjoy 3000 Miles to Graceland more. Elvis impersonator heist movie 😉
I'll see both of them with you, ma'am. Uh-huh-huh.
@@dan_hitchman007 I second "Gattaca"
Gattaca is great
One of the best sequels ever made in my opinion, a film that no one wanted to be made, but ended up being a masterpiece regardless. Fantastic performances, otherworldly sound design and score, and truly stunning cinematography that deservedly won Roger Deakins his first Oscar
I didn't even know that this movie was made until like a year after its release. I blame the marketing side of things. Hollywood spends a lot on marketing, how come long-term fans of the original didn't know anything?
@Christian Wise Wholeheartedly agree! It is actually a better story than the ‘82 film which is a Sci-Fi Cyberpunk classic!
2049 is not really a masterpiece as it suffers too much flaws ..... there's a lot of big empty spaces which I suspect is out of laziness to put in the details from the director , its trying to be stylish by omitting a lot of the necessary dystopian visual details and textures (its too smooth and soft) for example the entertainment district to the casino should be a lot more detailed with big ad displays instead of being so empty and the casino itself is almost unscathed with it should have a lot of broken windows, moldy peeling walls, loose hanging wires etc .....
The original remains the masterpiece that fleshed out the cyberpunk genre, so many great directors, writers, artists, musicians, philosophers etc quotes the 1982 movie as their big inspiration .... The sequel had a lot of great artist conceptual artworks that the director failed to reproduce on the screen, sadly, hopefully in the next one they will do the original masterpiece justice ....
(by the way, the sequel is still a good movie though, but I suspect any directors would have made a beautiful atmospheric sequel given the blueprint provided by the first movie to follow, the visual styles and music vibe is so iconic that it would take a very bad director to produce a "not beautiful" sequel so I think 2049 basically did the bare minimal which means it failed to fulfill a lot of potential of what it could have been ...
@@88feji2049 is far superior to the original in many ways. The story and the script is amazing, the visuals are stunning, one of if not the best looking movies ever made. The original is a cop story with a moral quandry, which is good but basic. This story is complex, with shifting character roles (K goes from a possible hero, possible special "chosen one", to nothing, and still decides to die for the right cause, showing despite being "just a replicant", he had morales.) It's a much more nuanced and complex script, and it blows the original out of the water, and this is coming from someone who loves the original film.
@@88feji You're forgetting it's 30 years later. It should look different because in 30 years time a lot changes, also technologically.
Bees... I wish to tell this.
Years ago, I was on a bus to work, when a bee got trapped in the vehicle. The bee tried to get out, of course, but, at some point, it merely sat on the window pane next to me, maybe exhausted. I held a finger against the glass, and it promptly crawled onto the finger, where it sat, patiently, for the next five minutes. It didn't make a stir, while I got up and left the bus at my stop. As soon as we got out, the bee flew away.
There's no special meaning behind this story, beyond maybe the trust the little creature put into me. Bees are amazing, I think.
That was an awesome reaction, to this and the first Blade Runner. Thank you for sharing the experience!
The author of the book wrote Deckard as a Human. Harrison Ford played Deckard that way as he believed Deckard to be human. Ridley Scott, however, believed Deckard was a replicant. This is why he put the Unicorn dream and oragami in the movie. Significantly, the director of this movie, was determined not to take either side.
Exactly!!!
Can't remember who it was, but someone said Ridley edited in the unicorn stuff after a drinking session when he decided Deckard was a replicant. It's kinda dumb and removes the whole point of the story, that Roy and Rachel are more in touch with their humanity than Deckard, the real human, and they show him what it means to be alive.
@@Bhaalgorn2302 That's why Ford, the original screenwriters, and Rutger Hauer (Roy Batty) all subscribe to the interpretation that Deckard is human
@@christianwise637 Hampton Fancher, the principal screenwriter of the original and co-writer of the sequel, does _not_ believe that Deckard definitely was human. Some people love to misquote Fancher out of context to try to make his statement that he wrote Deckard as human into a different, positive claim that Deckard was human. In context, though, what Fancher was saying was that the ambiguity over whether Deckard is or is not a replicant is an essential part of the story, that he did not like it when Scott added elements in later editions of the first film that made it very difficult to read Deckard as possibly human, and that he had always, in contrast, written Deckard as human (e.g. not ever engaging in any of the superhuman feats that the unambiguous replicants do) in order to preserve the ambiguity over whether Deckard was or was not human. Fancher has not said that his intention was that Deckard was definitely human and definitely not a replicant.
@@markhamstra1083 But Phillip K. Dick DID intend Deckard to be human. The ambiguity is, however, critical to making the movie work.
Denis Villeneuve uses sound SO well in his films. Sicario, Arrival, & Dune all use music and sound effects as intense world building tools. Just incredible sound design.
Message of the film: Cherish the life that has been gifted to you, because each story always reaches its end, whether on rainy rooftop or softly falling snow. ❄❄❄❄
Love that they used the exact same music cue in both scenes
@@christianwise637 Same. Both hit with the same impact.
joe enjoying real snow, while deckard's daughter is imagining fake snow, symbol of him enjoying human life while the girl didn't even when she is a human he made real memories, he looked back on past experiences before deciding to be human and die for the right cause
Gattaca is amazing. Written by Andrew Niccol, who was also responsible for either writing, directing and/or producing The Truman Show (Carrey, Harris, Linney), Lord Of War(Cage, Leto, Hawke), The Terminal(Spielberg, Hanks, Williams), S1m0ne(Pacino, Keener), and In Time(Timberlake, Seyfried)…all worth watching.
Gattaca is one of those sci-fi movies where key aspects of it have already kinda become reality with the mapping of the human genome and CRISPR. Makes it all the more prescient and worth watching
The first DVD I bought when I got my first DVD player
"What is real?"
An important question posed by both Blade Runner movies.
2049 goes next level, with Joi - a hologram with no sentience, K - a replicant who thinks he's a real boy, and Ana - a hybrid born of replicant and human. Of each it subtly asks, what is real, and what does it matter?
Joi is real to K, as was his love for her, right up until the moment he is slapped in the face with the fact that she was only telling him what he wanted to hear. Staring up into the giant neon projection of his love, naked and for sale, is such a powerful shot. Denis Villenueve was the perfect choice to direct.
It is not definite in the movie that Joi is not sentient and that the love between her and K is not real. Just as replicants do not start with emotions but can develop them through their life experiences, so too it is entirely consistent with this movie that Joi was capable of developing into something/someone more “real” than she was in her initial, as-built state. Joi just before she dies has received tech upgrades and lived through many experiences with K. The reality that K is slapped with later in the movie when he sees the Joi advert is not necessarily that his Joi was never any more “real” than the advertised Joi, but can just as well be read as the recognition that his Joi had become someone much more real than she was at first when she was just like the product in the advertisement, and that there is no way to buy a new Joi and recover his Joi in the state that she had arrived at through a unique and unrepeatable life.
As is so often true in the Blade Runner universe, the story is ambiguous and demands that you ask difficult questions about what is real or genuinely unique, exclusive and valuable in humanity.
Don't we tell our own lovers what they want to hear as well?
It is NOT a fact that she was telling him only what he wanted to hear. At the end of the day we don't know. But the scene with giant hologram was important to give reality check to those who thought by this point that she is definitely "human". Without hologram her story line would be too sweet and "real".
@@markhamstra1083That scene hits hard because Joi was real and though he can easily replace her with another girl who looks identical and comes with the same base programming, the truth is that she was fully conscious and sentient and that she was real because of her memories and their experiences together which would be missing if he got a new girl. She died like a real girl, and to see the same woman (in appearance) reciting the same preprogramed lines (like calling him a good Joe) but in a different context and without memories she would essentially be a stranger. It's masterfully written
@@alexeyserov5709 It's the opposite. The hologram scene reinforces how real she was, because he could replace her with a clone but a clone isn't the real thing. We are more as humans than our base programming. It's our memories, lived experiences and personalities that develop from these that make us who we are and they inform our developed relationships over time. He could easily purchase a new Joi and set her up with the same base settings, but it wouldn't be her because the aforementioned factors would be missing. If your wife died and you could get a clone of her who doesn't know you or remember anything she wouldn't be your wife. She wouldn't be real like your wife was. A clone replacement wouldn't be real for K like Joi was
An absolute masterpiece and a love-letter to the original. Usually, when so much time passes between sequels, franchises lose their way, but they couldn't have done a better job in capturing the film noir, cyberpunk aesthetic and pacing of the first movie, while also keeping its spirit alive.
Gattaca is AMAZING. in fact, it became a thing in policy circles to talk about “The Gattaca Effect” to describe genetic discrimination. The film Gattaca actually led to legislative changes in the US.
This film is about evolution. The idea that a born replicant has a soul asks the question, “do all replicants have souls.” They are no longer what they were, they are real beings now.
The bit with Joi is important as a criticism of AI and believing what you want to believe. Did his Joi really love him, or was it as the giant ad version of her says that she can be whoever you want. Did she only love him because he wanted so badly to believe it?
There was a supreme court ruling not so long ago that in the US transhumans are patentable products like other GMOs
The scene where K sees the giant hologram advertisement of Joi and realises that her emotions for him are all stemmed from a core programming she gets on the production line actually broke my heart.
Even down to his “name”. 😢
Frankly, I felt Gosling could have showed a little more look of heart broken realisation at the bridge scene ... yes, he's kind of chemically castrated by humans to feel less emotions but still his face is a little too blank which takes away the impact of the scene ....
you could translate it that way, but you could also say this. K can never get another Joi. Joi did start as that same coded AI hologram, but K and his Joi have experienced many, many things together, developing something more "real". Throughout their journey she continued to ongo more developments and built something more "human-like" towards K, and at the end, She died like a real girl, and she was irreplaceable at that point. He simply realized that even if he got brand new Joi, she simply wouldn't be the same. Joi he knew and loved is gone forever.
My favorite moment is when the Tears in Rain music when K dies. Its such a touching call back to the first movie.
2049 is a hell of a movie. It's a rare sequel that lives up to the original. It is similar enough, it captures the feel, but it's also a new story that explores a new aspect of the ethics of replicants.
I watched this 3 times in a huge IMAX auditorium. The soundscape was unreal. Possibly the best sequel ever.
I put this movie up there with Terminator 2. An masterpiece in it's own genre.
Agreed
Philip K. Dick stated in an interview (see 1) that Dick created Deckard as a human character who is gradually dehumanized through his violence towards replicants.
"The purpose of this story as I saw it was that in his job of hunting and killing these replicants, Deckard becomes progressively dehumanized. At the same time, the replicants are being perceived as becoming more human. Finally, Deckard must question what he is doing, and really what is the essential difference between him and them? And, to take it one step further, who is he if there is no real difference?”
But PKD also said that he had no problem with the movie taking a different path for Deckard to turn out to be a replicant .... he felt that where the movie diverts from his book are still viable options for the story to be developed in a different direction from his book ... although personally he had chosen for Deckard to be human ...
... so basically the author does accept and acknowledge how the movie's vision is different from his book in some ways, he even said that the final script is a work of genius in its own right and he cried when reading the script's ending .... its miles better than at the beginning when he first read and got quite upset with the initial scripts before the script revisions by David Peoples ...
@@88feji well, let’s just go with logic then. In order for the concept of deck, Card, being a replicant to even be considered, just following the story, Deckard is, somehow the most advanced replicant of all, and nobody seems to know that. It doesn’t make any sense.
Yes this film was amazing in the cinema. Very few people went to see it unfortunately. The music, cinematography and slow pacing really immersed me.
I love how they've upped the stakes from BR by introducing a holographic girlfriend and asking the audience if she's "real" too?
This was the last film I saw in the cinema. I absolutely loved it. My local cinema was showing the original Blade Runner at the same time so I managed to see them both on the same day.
It was absolutely a shame to go to both screenings of these Blade Runner films and turn around just before showtime only to see a 90% empty theater each time.😔
Same with “Ghost in the Shell” (which was not that great, but Still almost nobody showed up!), and “Alita: Battle Angel”, where having James Cameron’s name associated didn’t help it enough to receive any of the all important sequels...😬
Cyberpunk is too smart for the average audience it seems sadly.😐
Part of the problem for the Box Office was that the movie was too long. Not in an artistic sense, but in a showings per day sense. Villenueve even admitted as much saying he had made the biggest budget arthouse film of all time. But he was determined to make the right movie first and deal with the effects later.
The more times I watch this, the more blown away I am by Sylvia Hoeks' performance as Luv! Absolutely brilliant casting! Her hair and wardrobe look amazing and she acts the sh** out of being Wallace's angel..... 'the best' replicant! Even her face acting when she's being throttled to death by Joe in the flooded car! A supporting actor's masterclass! Brilliant
The score at the end while Joe is dying on the snow is exactly the same as when Roy gives his iconic “teardrops in the rain” speech at the end of the original BR. This is a beautiful piece of cinema. Also there’s a set of four or five animated short films that explains the whole sequence of events between BR and BR49, including the great blackout. They’re included in the DVD/BR “extras”. Highly recommended.
Gattaca is one of my all-time SciFi faves. You HAVE to see it.
So glad for the turn around on this reaction! Might be the fastest to do the Blade Runner sequel! A truly worthy successor!
I dunno…that’s one of the things I feel like reactors really miss out on with sequels…the wait time in between when we all talk about the first one with each other, laugh over and over at the same jokes, building a shared love of cultural references, and eager anticipation of all the payoffs.
Seeing this in the theatre was unreal. The final scene in the water was overwhelming on every level. I couldn't even think, it was just sensory overload, in the best way.
Pretty much every shot in this movie could be a wallpaper. Most beautifully shot movie of the last 20+ years. Denis Villeneuve and the great Roger Deakins are such a winning combo. So happy I got to see this on IMAX when it came out !
For some reason, the Wallace Inc. jingle is the opening from Prokofiev's "Peter and the Wolf." Idk why. As for the future, the water might be "99.9% non toxic," but they still have Jack Daniel's and Johnny Walker Black, so some things do live on.
There's a long post about this on Reddit, titled, "Theory: The significance of the Peter and the Wolf ringtone in Blade Runner 2049 'spoilers'". Most people seem to agree with the person's theories
Hi Jen.
First up, keep an eye out for the Amazon Prime series Blade Runner 2099, coming sometime in the next few years. It's going to be a sequel to the previous movies and has Ridley Scott and one of the writers as executive producers. It's also rumoured that Ryan Gosling will be appearing in a new role.
Second, a fun fact: Composer Hans Zimmer wanted to have a similar sound palette as Vangelis used in parts of the movie, so he sourced a Yamaha CS-80 Synthesizer which Vangelis used for the brass sounds. Back when Vangelis bought it the keyboard cost around £5000, but when Zimmer bought a good condition one secondhand it cost him closer to £40000!
Thirdly, when I saw it in the cinema on its original release I came out to be faced with a sky the exact same orange colour as in the Las Vegas scenes! No, it wasn't an extreme publicity stunt, but a storm in the Sahara desert had whipped up a load of sand and dust and transported it all the way to the UK to produce the spectacular scene. It just happened to be the day I went to see BR2049.
Another great reaction video! It's interesting that, when considering the question of whether a replicant has a soul, you went back to Roy Batty saving Deckard and then delivering his "tears in the rain" speech. If you'll remember, Roy was holding a white dove in his hand at the moment he died and there is a shot of the dove then flying skyward as it is released from Roy's grip. It has been opined by many that the dove flying skyward was intended to be symbolic of a soul leaving Roy's body at the moment of his death. You also posed the question of what the overall message of this movie might be. For me, it is related to a comment the leader of the replicant freedom movement made to K, saying that dying for a cause they believed in was the most human thing they could do. K dying at the end, having sacrificed himself to save Deckard and bring him to meet his daughter, has always struck me as the act that was foreshadowed by that statement. In that moment, K was the most human character in the movie.
BTW, if you want to see another really entertaining Ryan Gosling movie, I would recommend "The Nice Guys".
21:30 I loved so many things about this movie, but I think Carla Juri deserves a special shout-out for her performance here. In less than five minutes of screen time, she brought me closer to tears than anyone or anything else in the film.
For those that notice details, you know Ryan Gossling is about to die because the scene reuses the same Vangelis "tears in rain" music that Roy Batty dies to in the first Blade Runner.
I loved how Joe/K made the decision to help Deckard even after finding out he wasn’t the miracle child/his son. After a life of servitude, he took control of his own destiny and made a *human* decision
I remember I was scared of this sequel when they first announced it, I thought it'd be a huge disappointment - I'm glad to say I was wrong! It's a fantastic film, and also simply gorgeous!
There were some shorts released before the movie came out, you should watch those, they're very good and also help explain the "missing" period. Also, Wallace is human and blind, he has implants to help him "see" the product.
Hans Zimmer is one of the best composers ever and he was the the one who did the music here. Great sequel, where like the first one, it still left you with questions maybe for good conversation afterwards. So glad that Harrison agreed to do this. Great review as always. I did watch the first one with you if I didn't type anything. Peace and love my friend!!!!
Loved the sound design in this movie. Two of the sounds (the incoming message and "mesa" - when K and his girl go out for a flight) serve as my e-mail tone and morning alarm.
Sokath, his eyes uncovered/opened!
@Flash Gordon ... savior of the universe
Mad Max: Fury Road and Blade Runner 2049 are great examples of sequels to amazing movies that released decades after the original which pulls off the impossible of being better than the originel or living up to hype. There's no doubt other examples but most cases studios just end up rebooting a film instead of creating a sequel for example the awful Robocop and Total Recall reboot, Reboots can be amazing though if done well.
On the topic of returning to classic movies there was meant to be a Batman Beyond film featuring an older Michael Keaton (Tim Burton Batman) who oversees a young Terry McGinnis taking up the mantle of Batman. Batman Beyond is very retro 1980s/1990s Cyberpunk so think of the setting of Blade Runner but set in a Neo Gotham with Batman so it would've been like a mix of Tim Burtons amazing Gothic Revival Gotham City meets Blade Runner's Retro Cyberpunk. This was all based on the Batman Beyond 1999 cartoon an original idea that was a spin off from the Batman Animated Series featuring the same voice actors etc.
Edit: Top Gun: Maverick can't believe I forgot about this film.
Just for yourself. They made some short , in-between world building. Like an animation, ( less then ten minutes) and introduced Wallace. And a what lead to the beginning of the movie. ( They are on RUclips) . Explains a bit of whst has happened since 2019
The first release of the original Bladerunner had a film noir/gumshoe detective narration explaining things. Harrison did that voice over. In the end scene where Deckard & Rachael are leaving his apartment, the voice over states Tyrell told Deckard that Rachael was special and had no incept date. On the roof when Batty saves Deckard, the voice over adds a dimension when it gives a reason as to why Batty saved his enemy. When the film was re-released with the narration track removed, I couldn't help thinking they had mutilated a masterpiece and the film as a whole lost an important element. Another great reaction Jen, I'm glad you enjoyed this movie and as always, I look forward to your next video 😎😎
I saw it in the theater. This film left me sitting in my seat for a while after it was over. The rest of the evening I just kept thinking about life - meaning, purpose, love, the difficult and complex nature of reality etc. I love this film and consider it the greatest sci-fi next to Terminator 2 and Aliens. The film score was magnificent too. I ended up writing a summation after having seen it a second time:
"There was no real decoy. It was purely on paper. K/Joe is utterly, completely, unequivocally unremarkable, thus his name, Joe... as in Average Joe. Joi does not possess a soul. She is completely fake. She is the other side of the Replicant coin and is made solely to please and coddle her owner/lover. Her entire branding scheme is that she'll be anything you want. Joi is K's fleeting dream of being special -- to be human, or as he put it, "to have a soul" -- so she always reinforced this to him. Just before Luv crushed her emanator she made sure to tell him "I love you!"
Wallace posed a question about whether Deckard was moved by love or by programming. To me there's no doubt whatsoever Deckard is fully human. The original movie is about a bad man finding his humanity through the grace of a machine. Wallace's question is not a literal "Are you human or machine?" question, but pondering what the difference is; if love is just neurochemistry, and if we are products of biological programming or something higher, like a soul. The ultimate takeaway is that it really does not matter. In fact the only thing that matters is what we choose to do with our lives. We find and create our own meaning and purpose.
In summary, 2049 is about dreams and delusions. K wants desperately to feel special so Joi tells him this constantly and he quickly assumes all the evidence points to him because it's his dream. He becomes deluded and forces himself into the situation even as it destroys him. He thinks this is what it means to be human - to grapple with one's humanity. Then upon meeting Freysa, K comes to learn that in fact he is not special after all. Not born but manufactured. He is torn between two sides telling him what his identity is and should be; the LAPD who informs his identity as that of a slave, and the resistance which informs his identity as that of a free Replicant.
When K comes across the giant pink Joi on the bridge, she says to him "You look like a good Joe". He then realizes that not even the name his Joi gave him was special. Her feelings for him were never real... just programming. K, at this point an emotionally heartbroken broken Replicant. It is in this moment that he chooses to follow his own path and not let anyone tell him who he is or what he should do. He makes the most human decision of all and takes his life into his own hands. He saves Deckard for the same reason Roy did in the first Blade Runner. He wanted someone to remember him, for his final decision that fully validates him as human to not be in vain. No one else gave him his identity, only he did, and his sacrifice ensured forever that he was by every metric a human being, even if the world would ultimately forget him."
Yes, Jen, I recommend "Gattaca. " "Strange Days" is another that I like. Its premise is that there is a market for recordings of people's experiences.
Happy "First Contact Day"! 🖖
Recommended: _Outland_ (1981) with *Sean Connery* - another essential '80s sci-fi classic, it takes place in the _Blade Runner_ / _Alien_ universe.
Another movie you could check out is Soldier (1998) with Kurt Russell. It may or may not be in the Blade Runner/Alien universe. The writer intended for it to be in the Blade Runner universe from what I heard.
Maybe... Also, in Aliens, there was an easter egg referencing the Tyrell Corp. As for the universe of all of the mentioned films in this thread, I've read different answers from people involved in the films ranging from them being set in the same universe to being in different universes.
Another rewatch done for you, Jen, I really enjoyed seeing your reaction to it yet again. I'll do another tonight before I go to bed. 🙂
Fun fact... Joi played by Anna De Armas ( from knives out) will be starring in her own john wick movie titled ballerina schedule for 2024!!
I had the privilege of seeing both the first and second Blade Runner back to back in IMAX when 2049 premiered. It was one of the single greatest cinematic experiences I’ve ever had. The final confrontation with Luv at the end was even more intense that I didn’t even realize I was holding my breath.
Another great video, Jen! I love your "Wisdom Nuggets"! I've become a huge fan of the director of this film, Denis Villeneuve (like you, from Canada!). His films are beautiful to look at and the man definitely knows how to compose a shot. You saw his "Dune", but I also highly recommend "Sicario", "Arrival", and one of his earlier films, "Polytechnique", which is a sad, intense movie about an unfortunate chapter in Canadian history. Keep up the awesome work!!!!
There are some short Blade Runner animated stories that explain why the weather was like that and the water scene were the villain lady in white drowned thats the coast of California and the big walls are to keep the city safe from rising sea levels...
There are three very short films (animated and live action) that explain key events in 2022, 2036, & 2048 (including that blackout) which were released leading up to this 2049 film.
I was happily living hand to mouth from my gifted camper in near Valby Park in Sydhavn Copenhagen Denmark just playing jazz piano for a living after my Divorce in Italy in 2015. I really couldn't afford it but the year this came out I went to a pretty well attended midweek matiné . As the end credits came up on the big screen we half full theater all stood spontaneously and aplauded. I love the Danes.
First time I saw the movie, I just waited throughout the movie for Harrison Fords appearance. The ending scene really got to me. They should had shown us more of Dr. Ana Stelline played by Carla Juri.
It sounds weird but I love how bleak this film is. Particularly Joii experiencing the rain for the first time. It's just so sad but beautiful at the same time and multiple scenes have that feel.
"Don't give your dog liquor". 😄
When I was a kid, dad would occasionally pour some vodka for our German Shepherd. She loved it, would come begging when people were outside drinking. She used to kill snakes all the time too, like it was her life's mission. Good 'ole country doggo.
The music playing when Gosling dies was from the "Tears in Rain" dying scene from the first movie.
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The music at the end is the 'Tears-in-Rain' music from the first movie.
That is a huge sea wall built along a major Los Angeles Boulevard (Sepulveda Blvd) to keep the rising Pacific out. The space port is the old LAX airport (the actual airport is built atop a 'hill/bluff' so it will become and 'island' when the sea levels rise).
It's the same, external question- What is real...
>>>>There are three 'mini-movies' that fill in the 30 years between the two movies< One of them explains the black-out. One explains why Sapper isolates himself and how he is tracked down. The last one explains how Wallace takes over Tyrell and begins to create these 'new' replicants
I love how Kay in the end made the same choice as Roy in the first movie, to make his last act the most human thing he could have possibly done. And the snow mirroring the falling rain in the original Blade Runner. Denis Villeneuve is just such a master storyteller.
There are three short films set between Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049 that fill in some of your questions, especially about the Blackout. All three are on RUclips. Search for Blade Runner 2022, Blade Runner 2036, and Blade Runner 2048. Denis Villeneuve didn't direct them, but he was involved with their production. They are all considered canon in the Blade Runner universe as far as I know.
There are some new advertisements that utilize directional audio so when you look at it, you'll hear the ad as well as see it. There are also digital ads where when you look at a character in the ad, it comes alive, but only for you, the ad is static for other people who haven't "engaged" it yet. This future is well within our time, it's just gonna be a lot less neon and pretty
You should absolutely watch Gataca.
But after Soldier with Kurt Russell since it's spiritual sequel to Blade Runner.
WOW! So fast. I love that you watch series. I hate when reactors are like "we watched John Wick 1 5 years ago and now we are back. I remember loving it. But I don't remember it."
MVP: 39:50 cat arms!
low key MVP: 41:46 being extra canadian "stand oot" presumably in honour of director Denis Villeneuve
the worst: Jared Leto (not his character lol just as a person)
Stunning movie though seriously, Villeneuve just does not miss!
"Soldier" (1998) with "Kurt Russell" takes also place in the "Blade Runner" cinematic universe.
Another good but less known movie, worth to watch.
Oh, and just some fun, many of the character names in this are references. Sapper Morton (Dave Bautista) is a reference to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, or lingusitic relativity, which says that language shapes perception of reality. The theory is also cited in Arrival. Ana Stelline is a reference to a process in architecture called Anastylosis, which involves incorporation of parts of old ruined buildings into the new building that replaces them--kinda like what she does with memories. Neander Wallace's headquarters architecture is based on actual designs for a Neanderthal museum that was suppose to be built in Spain, but was never completed. And of course the fact that Joi is an illusion and Luv destroys Joi is probably just a reflection of Villeneuve's sometimes bleak outlook on life.
I went into this in the cinema with pretty low expectations, the first one was so good, my top all time film. But I have to say, this film blew me away, such a clever carry over from the first film, there is actually something important to add to what we experienced before. I had never seen Ryan Gosling before and didn't know what to expect but he really carried this film, such a low key performance until he meets the dream-maker and is confronted by the possibility that he is the child - he practically explodes, I think everyone jumped in the cinema! This film takes it's time to tell it's story but I can see why some people wouldn't have the patience to sit through. It is so rewarding if you invest a little of yourself in it though. Luv is a great character too, you spotted that she has tears in her eyes at key points - when Niander kills the new-born replicant and when she confronts 'madam' - why? Is it because she so desperately wants to please Niander or she hates what she is 'forced' to do through her programming? A brave film that doesn't spell everything out, you have to think about what you are seeing and hearing (great sound design and track too). Denis Villeneuve is an awesome director, the two Dune films and 'Arrival' are well worth your time too (I didn't get Arrival first time round but have since changed my mind, it is brilliant).
A little trivia. The opening to this film is actually inspired by a draft of a screenplay of its predecessor which had a similar opening.
Watched this in IMAX. The sound level was so high, I had my fingers in my ears for three hours! I now always carry earplugs to theaters.
I was fortunate enough that a local theater played the first movie and this one . The sound was Amazing! “Within cells interlinked “
You ask so many great questions along the way...I never even questioned if Deckert was a replicant himself, but assumed he was human.
Did you notice that the music played when Joe died is a reprise of Tears In Rain from the first film...
4:42- This was the start of me liking Ryan Gosling roles for me and the start of him doing these effortless and emotionless action movie roles. 28:00- Told ya. No emotion. Love it.
"All... those... moments. Will be lost. Like... tears. In rain."
Or breath, in snowfall.
The barren wasteland that Deckard was living in was the remnants of Las Vegas.
Did you notice that Lieutenant Joshi used to be Princess Buttercup and Forest Gump's Jenny? Also, the Origami Dude is also Admiral Adama in Battlestar Galactica. If you've never seen it and are up for a long trip, it's definitely worth the price of admission.
Yes, watching it in the theater was amazing, especially the soundtrack. The fight at the seawall and the closing titles music are the best. Horner did a very good job capturing the mood of Vangelis' original work.
I knew this movie was going to be something special in the opening scene at the farm because I immediately recognized it as the opening scene in an early draft of Francher's screenplay for the first movie. It gave me chills and I started giggling.
You can never beat the original but this was a fantastic sequel. Also whenever Jen posts a new reaction it always makes my day better.
Thanks Dylan ☺️👍
The only clue to the big twist is that when K goes to the orphanage, you can see that only the girls get to keep their hair while all the boys are shaved. But in the flashback, K has a full head of hair
Denis Villeneuve is a genius. The movie amplified the question Who is more human? Even a hologram is more human than certain humans.
Fantastic reaction Jen
This is an awesome sequel. The director Denis Villeneuve is a fellow Canadian 🍁 and also did the new Dune. I feel so bad for K. I want know why the replicant Luv was so loyal to Niander wallace. She seemed afraid of him. However her behavior at times was like a Terminator.
It makes more sense for Rachel to be the unicorn. Here is why: In the orginal movie when Deckard finds the origami unicorn the camera focuses in on it and simultaneously the audience hears (again) the line
"Its to bad she won't live" intentionally bringing your attention to Rachel in that moment.
Why would they simultaneously show the unicorn and repeat that line about Rachel if its not related? Of course it's related. They repeated that line multiple times so the audience will question it. Clearly for good reason as we now know she didn't have a set death date. However what makes Rachel the real unicorn is that she was the only known replicant capable of having children. This difference made her even more human. Deckard and Rachel created the miracle that is Ana. Rachel's ability to have children is what Niander wallace is trying to recreate and failing. Niander's behavior is very disturbing. He is clearly a sociopath.
Especially when he just casually kills a new replicant like she meant nothing. This is because to him she is useless unless capable of biological reproduction like Rachel. He wants to be a God.
I think the only opinion whether Deckard is human or replicant that really matters belongs to the original author, and he wrote Deckard as human. He did this to highlight the similarities between humans and replicants. Definitely watch Gattaca
Hi Jen Murray, there are three very good "shorts" prequels to this movie that are each individually very good, and they fill in a lot of back-story to this 2049 movie.
I arrived late for this reaction Jen, but here all the same! Better late than never...right? Thank you Jen for doing these two great films, back to back, really makes them more relevant and powerful! LOVED both reactions Jen. Thank you again for all your hard work...Eric
Hi Eric. Sorry about my Radio Silence the other day, I wasn't feeling really chatty. Shree is about to Premiere "Leon: The Professional." Wanna come and hang out..?
You said that Deckard living in the radioactive wasteland was evidence that he was a replicant, but that's incorrect. When K arrives in Vegas, his scans indicate that the radiation level is nominal, ie. it is very low. Vegas was hit by a dirty bomb a long time ago, which is why it's abandoned, but by 2049 the fallout has mostly all gone. Whether Deckard is a human or a replicant with an open-ended lifespan is left completely ambiguous in this movie.
It’s also ambiguous whether Las Vegas is always free from high radiation or whether that just happens to be the case on the particular day when K shows up due to local weather conditions. There may well be drifting clouds of radiation, fallout sand and dust, etc. that change with the weather. As with much else in these movies, you can leave this open and ambiguous, or try to force a single, closed narrative.
2049 had a couple short films and specials released in the lead up to the films launch that provide some background info on things like Sapper, the Blackout and similar. Worth watching as supplemental companion material to the film. There is currently a Bladerunner 2099 series in the works that will pick up as a follow up, though what the exact story of that will be isn't known.
I've never seen Blade Runner in the theater but I made sure to watch 2049 there. It was such a wonderful experience with the music and sound design! It also looked amazing on the big screen.
I imagine the reason Wallace sliced the new replicant’s abdomen was because she was just a blank sample of the new run. She had no personality, or memories, she was just a sample. Wallace sliced her abdomen because that is where the womb is, and that’s the one frontier he has yet to conquer, unlike Tyrell. Tyrell’s accomplishment of replicants that can reproduce was lost, and Wallace Industries can’t produce enough replicants to provide slave labor to all the industries of Earth, the nine off world colonies, and all assumed planetoid/asteroidal mining operations, without being able to supplement production through breeding.
The reason why the first Blade runner had such great sound and music. Is because the master was at the helm and is name was Vangelis. He was a Greek composer, he did several amazing movie soundtracks. I love the idea of the Joi holo companion too. The guy playing Sapper Morton was in Dune as Beast Glossu Rabban Harkonnen.
Rachael only had no expiration date in the "happy ending" that was added after test audiences did not like the ending that cuts off when they walk into the elevator. The original and intended ending was the one you saw in the Final Cut which leaves us to assume she had the same short lifespan as any replicant. The original film has 5 official versions: The Workprint Version, The Theatrical and International Versions, the Director's Cut, and the Final Cut (which gave Scott full control that he did not have for the so-called Director's Cut). The first three don't have the Unicorn Dream, Theatical and International versions add a voice-over narration and the "happy" ending, The Director's and Final Cut add the Unicorn Dream, but they go back to the original elevator ending. Another cut, the San Diego sneak preview version added three minor scenes but those scenes have not been added to any version since the sneak preview in 1982. There is a video floating around the internet with some other delated scenes like Dekard visiting Holden in the hospital.
There is something very special and truly unique about both Blade Runner movies. Oh, and by the way, same director (Vileneuve) and same composer (Zimmer) as Dune.
This movie was intense in a movie theatre. Felt like I was transported to another world.
“Maybe I’m going to find out if he is a replicant or not.” Only if Hampton Fancher didn’t do his job well. Fancher was the principal screenwriter of the first film and one of the co-writers of this film. He has been quite clear that the ambiguity in the question of whether or not Deckard is a replicant is essential to the story. Therefore, the story is carefully written to preserve that ambiguity and for the question to remain open and unresolvable. I think that Fancher and Michael Green did their jobs very well and fulfilled their intention, so if you think Deckard definitely is or definitely is not a replicant, then this says more about you than about the movie.
I'm so glad you watched these B.R. films back to back. Looking forward to your opinion of this one.
It was cool to see them side by side. Both great in their own way but I think it's hard to beat the original 👍
@@jenmurrayxo Did you notice all the little clues left in the film that K's digital girlfriend, Joi, was truly sentient, unlike all the other Joi programs? 😉 Her death was quite sad knowing she was actually alive and the next step in AI evolution and K didn't realize it.
@@group-music You have to look at the whole movie closely. Don't fall for a classic misdirection.
9:25 Tibetan throat singing. Denis Villeneuve directed both Dune and this Blade Runner 2049, hence the overlapping score/music style
Just a quick answer to your music question. The score to the original 1982 Bladerunner was done by "Vangelis." That was over 40 years before Bladerunner 2049 was made. The score for 2049 was mostly done by Hans Zimmer. If you really want a deep dive into the plot(s), try and get hold of the original theatrical version shown in 1982. It was fully narrated by Harrison Ford and gives many extra clues to your questions.
FANTASTIC movie + reaction! (IMHO) a very worthy sequel to Blade Runner. Amazing music by Hans Zimmer, and incredible, Oscar-winning cinematography by Roger Deakins.
Definitely watch "Gattaca", great writing, great acting, great film-making. Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman got married a couple years after filming :)
Harrison Ford accidentally hit him when they were filming the fight scene.
Again, music should really be MVP. For the longest time, the Vangelis soundtrack of the original was my all time fave. This soundtrack has since supplanted it as my new fave.
As with “Dune”, this soundtrack was composed by Hans Zimmer. He had help from Benjamin Wallfisch, who also composed the soundtrack to the latest version of Stephen King’s “It” (which came out about the same time as this movie).
One aspect of the Blade Runner universe that doesn’t get discussed much is the climate situation. In the original, the rain was constant, suggesting a certain amount of damage to the world’s climate. In this version, the rain is now snow (probably just because the director is Canadian and has grown up with it) and sea levels have elevated to the point where sea walls are needed to keep coastal cities from being underwater.
Either way, a powerful statement of where we’re headed meteorologically.
And don’t know if you noticed, but the farmer that K killed at the beginning was Dave Bautista, ‘Drax’ from “Guardians of the Galaxy” (and ‘Beast Rabban’ in “Dune”).
Masterpiece
'Breathtaking' watchalong with you, thanks for this one.
Yeah, I've admired Gosling ever since I saw him in Half Nelson long ago. Even the producers, who already felt they had a good script, felt like they won the lottery when he auditioned and elevated their material. Anthony Hopkins says he's the best actor he's ever worked with (they were in Fracture (2007)) and is definitely worth a watch.
Apparently Amazon are making a Blade Runner series starring Jodie Comer. And as for the music, it was incredible in the theatre, but REALLY loud. After the end of the movie I was standing outside the cinema, and I could STILL hear it, lol.
I dont know if anyone told you, but Bladerunner is part of the Alien/Aliens universe together with operation Outland (Sean Connery.)
Gattaca is also a very good movie... not up to par with the Bladerunners, but still very enjoyable... and a somewhat chilling look at a possible future. I would also suggest a Kurt Russel movie called "Soldier". It takes place in the same world as Bladerunner... though also no where near as good as them. However, it is very enjoyable, and you will never see a better example of non-verbal acting than what Kurt gives in that.
Ryan Gosling also played the young Hercules in several episodes of Hercules - The Legendary Journeys.
34:23 when Joe realized that the relationship with Joi wasn't real, she was just a product doing what she was programmed to do.
Highly recommend Vangelis as an epic musical artist in general. Did music for the first Blade Runner movie and the sound in this second one catches his style very well, I think.
The sound was really good in the theater, you could really feel it vibrating you.
I got to see this in the theater. I purposely went on a Sunday afternoon when there wouldn't be a crowd. There were six people there, all guys. Sci fi nerds. It was great!
Me too :)
when the replicant pleasure woman was synced to the holo-girl she saw there was not much there. even though it appeared she had feeling for "Joe" she was just following her A.I. programming. "Joe" realized this when the hologram add looked down at him and said "...you look like a good Joe."
Rachael having no expiration date was tacked on the theatrical release to give the movie a happy ending. It was removed in the Directors Cut to return the film to what he had originally intended. You can decide which you prefer.