I remember this angle was shown the same weekend of the NWA house show at the old Philadelphia Civic Center on Saturday, February 21, 1987. The scheduled match was supposed to be Ron Garvin and Wahoo McDaniel vs. The Midnight Express. After the intermission, the Midnight Express walked down the ringside with the stolen U.S.Tag Team titles without Jim Cornette. Then, Wahoo McDaniel came to the ring. The ring announcer told the audience that Cornette was suspended by the NWA and Ronnie Garvin wasn’t able to wrestle due to the injury. He then said “And Wahoo McDaniel’s tag team partner...” and paused. They played ZZ Top’s “Sharp Dressed Man,” the Civic Center POPPED when they heard the music and Jimmy Garvin ran to the ring!
It was a great angle, but my favorite part might be when Jimmy Garvin gets that look on his face like “Where is he?” and bursts in the locker room while Cornette is screaming for his life. It feels so real, especially when you combine Jimmy’s promo afterwards.
Cornette his entire look, hes heel life style and character made people so damn mad. They hated his very essence he looks absolutely crazy with everything he does he sold every single thing he did ..he was just a master at pissing people off.
He still has a short temper today. He just told a story on his recent podcast of a verbal fight he had a guy at the post office because the guy was too close to him wearing no mask.
Dustin was the only Rhodes who didnt have a speech impediment. Dusty made it sound hip; Cody just comes off as a melodramatic, freshman year, theatre student.
The first match I ever watched on TV was one of Jimmy Garvin's. Then, I wondered if Ronnie was related to him. This angle was the first time I saw a fireball. It was, possibly, when I witnessed my first babyface/heel turn, and it blew my mind! All this because Precious drew me in by spraying what looked like an aerosol can of hair spray at the crowd.
@@tammyforbes2101 Baby Faces aren't supposed to use an Illegal Punch for a Finish KO, and then Tea Bag his opponent, That's why he never got a title defense. He was a good chaser, but once he got the prize, then what?
That's Garvin in the space shuttle. It's a call back to the story Jim told about Garvin's face going up like The Challenger which he briefly referenced in this clip.
God bless you Brian and God bless Jim Cornette The Midnight Express and Ronnie Garvin. I am from Saskatchewan Canada we got the start of this angle on cable, then the goddamn company switched to Michigan I got AWA which I really like but fuck me I needed to know how this angle finished! Thanks to RUclips I finally get to finish this whole circle almost 40 fucking years later but thank you
I love how this whole angle and its blowoff match was 3% wrestling and 97% brutish pantomime. I wish we had booking these days that was thinking more about the emotions of the audience and less about what moves look impressive.
Tre Redding Agreed. I sometimes wonder if these guys patrol the comment sections looking for mistakes. I imagine them shutting the computer down and patting themselves on the back, saying “good job got another one” after they find someone. Then they go beat their kid for spilling their milk.
Interesting to hear, since I just started getting into Crockett the last couple of years, and this was the first big angle that hooked me. Never realized how awesome the Garvins were before then. Jimmy Garvin's promos are like the highlight of the show for me, and Ronnie has the most fun squash matches ever. They're so entertaining that I'm surprised that they aren't talked about more fondly.
Someone help refresh my old pothead's memory. I seem to recall a similar incident where Jimmy Garvin, not Ronnie "Hands of Stone" Garvin, also took a fireball to the face and it kinda went up in flames because of his hairspray? Kinda like Michael Jackson? I think it was kayfabe story for a legit injury.
Ronnie and Corny was done RIGHT! The whole face world calls Cornette a mama’s boy wimp, so the knucks fit perfect. Much as I loved Lawler in the ring, him bumping for Jimmy Hart punches, and selling for 140 pound DJs just looked ridiculous.
I remember that the NWA was hyping Dusty vs Ronnie after this and went down to Philadelphia to see the match but Ronnie wasn't there because he was going to WWF!
@@georgewilliams1470 I think Garvin went to the AWA first before he went to the WWF. I remember seeing matches advertising Garvin vs. Greg Gagne sometime afterwards.
The cosmic fireball line was always hilarious, because Dennis had to cover up for the fact that Jim Cornette was using flash paper and a lighter right on camera when he held the paper to Ron Garvin's face. It is possible to create a legit fireball and throw it (See NileRed Shorts for further details); but it's a lot more dangerous since fire is real no matter how much you gimmick it.
I hated Jim to his bones after he burned Ronnie Garvin. Jim was one of the greatest wrestling villains of all time. Dennis, Bobby and Stan didn’t even have to speak and I hated their guts because of their association with Corny. I miss those days of wrestling when we really believed.
Steel cage matches jim cornette vs ronnie garvin Fued 5- 9- 87 Charlotte,nc ,6-5-87 richmond,va, 6-11-87 cinconatti Ohio 6-12-87 norfolk, va. All four matchrs in series......
Bloomington mn met center 2-26-87 jim cornette. Nwa jcp return since honeymoon, next day pittsburgh,pa:civic Center 2 27-86. 2-28-87(saturday)jim cornette at hotel watches tv cable himself burning ronnie garvin's face from 2-14-87
That main event between Cornette and Garvin sounds like something that would work well on PPV today, but not as the main event. A wrestler who isn't the top face (but then maybe Garvin was, world title aside he always seemed like an upper midcarder to me) taking on a manager in a cage seems like a highlighted match near the top of the card. Maybe my thinking stems from my fandom starting in the era of national promotions and PPV supercards. But I think the angle would still get over, though likely best suited for the WWE.
Jim storytelling this is the content I tune in to hear old wrestling stories and history I don't care what people's political views are when I listen to a wrestling podcast that's what I want to hear is wrestling that being said I enjoyed this clip
Just hearing Jim DESCRIBE a match from almost 40 years ago is more entertaining than actually WATCHING most wrestling today.
"I got married for the first time
So it was special". Every sentence a classic!
Jims memory is outstanding, He can tell a story and you can visualize how it went down
My grandma hit Jim in the head with his tennis racket in Virginia while he was walking to the ring lol
Did she load it with a horseshoe or weave a chain through the strings to make it heavier?
@Brian Hacker What she could do for her country was taken to heart/D.......Grandma was a patriot!
Hell yeah, your grandma is my new hero!!
No she didn't stop lying
His face went up like the Challenger.
Line always gets me
I can't stop laughing at "he was a genius" in Dusty's voice
Listening to him tell these stories man , he is a national treasure
I could listen to Cornette recollect his old matches all day. Just special.
I remember this angle was shown the same weekend of the NWA house show at the old Philadelphia Civic Center on Saturday, February 21, 1987. The scheduled match was supposed to be Ron Garvin and Wahoo McDaniel vs. The Midnight Express. After the intermission, the Midnight Express walked down the ringside with the stolen U.S.Tag Team titles without Jim Cornette. Then, Wahoo McDaniel came to the ring. The ring announcer told the audience that Cornette was suspended by the NWA and Ronnie Garvin wasn’t able to wrestle due to the injury. He then said “And Wahoo McDaniel’s tag team partner...” and paused. They played ZZ Top’s “Sharp Dressed Man,” the Civic Center POPPED when they heard the music and Jimmy Garvin ran to the ring!
That angle is great. Watch it on youtube. Jimmy Garvin's promo after it. He likes part in shock way he does the promo. Its one of jimmy best
Seemed so real to me at the time
"cause he's a geniuth" 😆😆
Jimmy Garvin kicking the door in was amazing. It looked perfect.
It was a great angle, but my favorite part might be when Jimmy Garvin gets that look on his face like “Where is he?” and bursts in the locker room while Cornette is screaming for his life. It feels so real, especially when you combine Jimmy’s promo afterwards.
Love The Midnight Express.. their ring music rocked.... I was sorry to see Loverboy Dennis leave, but was damn glad when he returned with Randy Rose
Their music was mysterious sounding.
Cornette his entire look, hes heel life style and character made people so damn mad. They hated his very essence he looks absolutely crazy with everything he does he sold every single thing he did ..he was just a master at pissing people off.
And still is today, apparently.
Russo agrees
And even pissing on people, if he's feeling frisky enough during the eight-way...
He still has a short temper today. He just told a story on his recent podcast of a verbal fight he had a guy at the post office because the guy was too close to him wearing no mask.
his talent as a heel manager an announcer everything was top notch..he really lived and breathes wrestling.
The best placed fireball that was ever threw in my mind.
Hoping for a Dusty imitation, that’s never not funny.
Dustin was the only Rhodes who didnt have a speech impediment. Dusty made it sound hip; Cody just comes off as a melodramatic, freshman year, theatre student.
The first match I ever watched on TV was one of Jimmy Garvin's. Then, I wondered if Ronnie was related to him. This angle was the first time I saw a fireball. It was, possibly, when I witnessed my first babyface/heel turn, and it blew my mind! All this because Precious drew me in by spraying what looked like an aerosol can of hair spray at the crowd.
Wow I remember that match! Cornette and that neck brace👍🏼
Where can I watch the cage match with ronnie garvin? Is it on WWE network?
THIS is why I listen to Jim’s podcasts!!!
Dennis referencing a cosmic fireball coming out of the sky makes me wonder if he read Fantastic Four comics as a kid.
I always thought Ron Garvin was as exciting as a salt free Saltine Cracker...
He was an acquired taste no doubt!
I enjoyed Ronnies work.
@@tammyforbes2101
Baby Faces aren't supposed to use an Illegal Punch for a Finish KO, and then Tea Bag his opponent, That's why he never got a title defense. He was a good chaser, but once he got the prize, then what?
That picture of Ronnie Garvin in the plane is amazing knowing that story Jim told about Garvin flying with the Windhams😂
That's Garvin in the space shuttle. It's a call back to the story Jim told about Garvin's face going up like The Challenger which he briefly referenced in this clip.
God bless you Brian and God bless Jim Cornette The Midnight Express and Ronnie Garvin. I am from Saskatchewan Canada we got the start of this angle on cable, then the goddamn company switched to Michigan I got AWA which I really like but fuck me I needed to know how this angle finished! Thanks to RUclips I finally get to finish this whole circle almost 40 fucking years later but thank you
I live in Charlotte. The coliseum is now called Bojangles Coliseum. Some folks refer to it as "The Chicken Box."
I don’t about anyone else. But I love the midnight express music. One of the greatest tag teams. Managed by one of the greatest managers of all time.
I love how this whole angle and its blowoff match was 3% wrestling and 97% brutish pantomime. I wish we had booking these days that was thinking more about the emotions of the audience and less about what moves look impressive.
I always found it interesting that Corny threw the fireball better than Hollywood Hogan
This is your best story, loved every second.
I’m still trying to figure out how that fireball stuck. Because you see it actually stay there for an extra second before it burns out.
"I got a pretty good punch it didn't look to bad" 😂😂😂😂
But tasted aweful. Too much raspberry and apple juice not enough pineapple.
*too
AW(esome/ful)?
@@bradpaton3927 it's the internet who cares.
Tre Redding Agreed. I sometimes wonder if these guys patrol the comment sections looking for mistakes. I imagine them shutting the computer down and patting themselves on the back, saying “good job got another one” after they find someone. Then they go beat their kid for spilling their milk.
Ladies and gentlemen Jim cornette doing an imitation of the dream Dusty Rhodes if you will.
Saw this match in Richmond, Virginia. It was as good as Jim describes it.
Interesting to hear, since I just started getting into Crockett the last couple of years, and this was the first big angle that hooked me. Never realized how awesome the Garvins were before then. Jimmy Garvin's promos are like the highlight of the show for me, and Ronnie has the most fun squash matches ever. They're so entertaining that I'm surprised that they aren't talked about more fondly.
That Jimmy Garvin face turn was epic. Ron Garvin was a good NWA world champion too.
Rick z
Flair would have never dropped the title to Garvin, if Magnum TA wasn't in the wreck.
Yep he was too drop it Ta
Someone help refresh my old pothead's memory. I seem to recall a similar incident where Jimmy Garvin, not Ronnie "Hands of Stone" Garvin, also took a fireball to the face and it kinda went up in flames because of his hairspray? Kinda like Michael Jackson? I think it was kayfabe story for a legit injury.
When and where
@@chrischar9428 It would have been early WCW when they were still part of the NWA. Maybe even late Jim Crockett Promotions time period.
@@Backwoods_Squatch not that I saw or heard
LOL Good on Dusty, "Don't mention the Challenger".
Ronnie and Corny was done RIGHT! The whole face world calls Cornette a mama’s boy wimp, so the knucks fit perfect.
Much as I loved Lawler in the ring, him bumping for Jimmy Hart punches, and selling for 140 pound DJs just looked ridiculous.
Ron Garvin was exciting as a brick wall.
as the OSW boys called Rugged Ronny Garvin.... "Rubbish Ronny Garvin" somehow that got him over
Well, he is a good ole Canadian boy born in Montreal. Most Americans too ADHD to catch the subety of Canadian wrestler's work.
"Hands of Stone" Ronny Garvin. vs Brick Wall = The wall sells better.
@Lewis 970 He was more believable than half of the WWE and AEW roster
I remember garvin turned on dusty and knocked him out
I remember that the NWA was hyping Dusty vs Ronnie after this and went down to Philadelphia to see the match but Ronnie wasn't there because he was going to WWF!
@@georgewilliams1470 I think Garvin went to the AWA first before he went to the WWF. I remember seeing matches advertising Garvin vs. Greg Gagne sometime afterwards.
@Lewis 970 those was the good old days
Boojkill Probably didn't really get a lot of AWA where I lived only the ESPN show.
@Lewis 970 Half of the fans cheered Ronnie. I was disappointed we never got Ronnie vs Dusty
Is this cage match available?
Whoever came up with that angle was a genius.
And after all the hype surrounding this Dusty & Crockett never filmed this to show on Tv. Brilliant, just brilliant
The cosmic fireball line was always hilarious, because Dennis had to cover up for the fact that Jim Cornette was using flash paper and a lighter right on camera when he held the paper to Ron Garvin's face.
It is possible to create a legit fireball and throw it (See NileRed Shorts for further details); but it's a lot more dangerous since fire is real no matter how much you gimmick it.
Ronnie Garvin - the greatest wrestler ever - should have punched the fireball. His hands are made of stone.
Worzel alert
One of tje great feuds ever! That was just so much fun back then!
Oh man! Best story, ever!
I hated Jim to his bones after he burned Ronnie Garvin. Jim was one of the greatest wrestling villains of all time. Dennis, Bobby and Stan didn’t even have to speak and I hated their guts because of their association with Corny. I miss those days of wrestling when we really believed.
I actually want to see that cage match now
Well bettah cancel your weddin Son
3:15 Maybe my mind is in the gutter but this gets sick af lol
who said Ronnie Garvin went up like the challenger...
Everyone knows its corny
🎶🎶
I already heard him talk about this before and as soon as I seen the picture I was like "naw I'm good, I know where this is headed."
Dusty stopped the taping when he said this and said “Don’t mention the Challenger kid.” Even Dusty knew that was too much
who has a friend named weasel dooley
Great great description. Mesmerizing
Steel cage matches jim cornette vs ronnie garvin Fued 5- 9- 87 Charlotte,nc ,6-5-87 richmond,va, 6-11-87 cinconatti Ohio 6-12-87 norfolk, va. All four matchrs in series......
And Cornette did the fireball perfect, literally perfect!!
Come to think of it everyone did it perfect! Jimmy Garvin was perfect also, what a performance by everyone!!
Cornette with the perfect Dusty impersonation.
That's the funniest Cornette story yet.
That Dusty impression! It's funny every time.
Best. Story. Ever. Loved wtbs in 1985.
Great angle
Great impression of garvin and Rhodes
Jim broke the “fuck” meter on this one.
Great story telling
Recently had q question from a Ron G fromeither Georgia or Alabama. Any one else think it waz Garvin?
Thanks for the jorney
Now that's odd - in the pic.. Dusty is telling Cornette no Challenger, but if you look closely - Dusty is flying it
That's Ronnie Garvin.
I thought Jimmy Garvin had best hair in wrestling
Wow...this is fucking gold!
Jimmy was Ron's step son he took the name Garvln but not brothers father & son.
That sounded awesome
Bloomington mn met center 2-26-87 jim cornette. Nwa jcp return since honeymoon, next day pittsburgh,pa:civic Center 2 27-86. 2-28-87(saturday)jim cornette at hotel watches tv cable himself burning ronnie garvin's face from 2-14-87
I thought Ron was Jimmy's step dad
Jim Cornette is a genius.
Could listen to this kinda shit all day long
That main event between Cornette and Garvin sounds like something that would work well on PPV today, but not as the main event. A wrestler who isn't the top face (but then maybe Garvin was, world title aside he always seemed like an upper midcarder to me) taking on a manager in a cage seems like a highlighted match near the top of the card. Maybe my thinking stems from my fandom starting in the era of national promotions and PPV supercards. But I think the angle would still get over, though likely best suited for the WWE.
Jim Cornett legend genius back when wrasslin was great
Jim cornette is the greatest
Jim storytelling this is the content I tune in to hear old wrestling stories and history I don't care what people's political views are when I listen to a wrestling podcast that's what I want to hear is wrestling that being said I enjoyed this clip
Dusty told him to take some time off lol
Don’t care what Vince or Wwe brass think should be in Hall Now
Of course, Corny is in kayfabe mode here since Ronnie and Jimmy Garvin were not actual brothers. I don't remember what role Terry Garvin played.
At one point Ronnie Garvin was his stepfather however most of the time in wrestling they were refer to with Brothers
That's just the way it's supposed to be done. You'd know it if you ever spent a day in your life. That;s pro wrestling.
Ronnie was DRY & Average in the ring. Barry Whindom was 2 damn smooth with anyone.
Ronnie was rugged as hell.
That is Wrestling!!!!!!!
Jim “Hadouken” Cornette
Kid we gonna put you against Ronnie....... in the cage....... Ida shit my pants.
Hang on, did Cornette hard way Garvin? Cornette>Lesnar.
Cornette great period should wwe hall of fame over 21 years ago
hands of stone
I really miss how the old story lines was believable, Todays wrestling is boring as hell,,, Alexa's story line isn't to bad,,,,
ruclips.net/video/iy9eZKzun6M/видео.html Here is the video of the fireball.
Have the Russo hostilities ended Jim , if it has it wasn't the conclusion I was expecting after the biggest build up in wrestling history
3:15 - 3:35 he sounds like he’s talking about something sexual
Cornette for president
Ron Garvin was the " Stone Cold Steve Austin" in the 80s.
Fireballs, cages, neck braces...mud show bullshit
Athletic work rate smarks ruined wrestling