Also, in russian The Dredge's name is translated to "Грязь" which means "dirt" or "mud" Could probably be connected in some way or the localization is just bad idk
I had to read many different articles and read lots of tome lore, as well as watching a couple hundred videos and documentary’s on The Trapper to agree with this sound observation.
I know that the Realm is really messed up, but I think it’s kind of funny to imagine one of the Survivors seeing someone from a movie or game like Nemesis and getting a little giddy
@@kimberlyterasaki4843 Just suddenly gives Jill an existential crisis. Feng fangirling over her favorite video game character and Jill believing she's a real person lol
That is assuming the games, films and series represented in DBD exist in the universes each of the survivors come from. The Legion kids might recognize a bunch of them, for example, since they seem to come from a basic vanilla sort of verse like ours.
@@drbuni i mean feng litteraly has a jill valentine cosplay skin. And there is a charm in the game with a Saw comic book. Lore wise these other media actually exists because the survivors and killers all are from our world. Before they got taken from the entity (and unless they are from a dif. franchise ofc)
Wouldn't it be so funny, tho, if Jill and Chris had talked about everything Wesker had done, and how he had done it, and the other survivors, used to giving killers weird nicknames, were like: "OMG He's a Mastermind." And the RE characters tried to stop the spreading of that name, but now they just sit angrily, as the name for Wesker remains? xD
maybe the Entity, somehow, removes the survivors' ability to call the killers by their real name? Since It seems to, already, have the power to remove their ability to fight back... Although, I'm not sure how this would benefit the Entity or the trials
Another funny part: Wesker and Chris are clearly from the original timeline while Leon and Jill are from the remake, so I’m just wondering what it was like for Jill to see her traitor boss suddenly wearing a leather overcoat and shit
@@Allanfeijoada entity feeds off of fear and hope, giving a gun to someone does make them feel secure, even they are hunted by some actual monster or psycho killer, which is not good "food" i guess? XD After all, the pike of entitys thrill out of all that comes when the survivors get closer and closer to escape, doesnt matter if they make it or not, entity gets its energy from the adrenalin-heavy emotions. Thats how i understood at least.
@@Allanfeijoadainteresting and unique take. I've never seen anyone else suggest this idea. In magical and fantasy stories, there's great power in a name, so robbing survivors of the ability to put a name to the horrors they face makes the horror worse for them. Maybe that's why they had to get creative with these monikers, because the entity robbed them of their ability to name them.
I love to imagine that Adriana is such a nerd and loves being the center of attention, she litterally tells them that she's called "The Skull Merchant"
1. Michael is called the Shape because that's what director John Carpenter referred to him as within the filming of the original Halloween. Evil hiding behind the shape of a man. 2. Xeno means something is either strange or foreign and morph means something is changing so it ties into how the Xenomorph can change form depending on it's host. Fun-fact, one of his earliest names was Big Chap and the actor who played him was actually 6' 10" in real life. Alien's filmmaking was so beyond it's time.
"Big Chap" was a production name I think, sometimes characters get a de facto name when the filmmakers or production crew start calling them by a name behind the scenes (usually as a bit of a gag). Like how the shark in Jaws got dubbed "Bruce".
I just came to the realization that the Hag is probably the youngest human killer in DBD. Ooh a "How old the killers/ survivors are" would actually be a cool vid.
@@Gemini_me In Susie´s lore (her base outfit) it is implied that it was about time for her to start preparing for college, so they are pretty much highschool seniors, right before getting out on college freshman age which is 18+ unless you are an actual genius that skipped highschool altogether.
Yun-Jin Lee also was you know.. Trickster's manager. She could have just immediately identified him and spread the name around. Demogorgon also came with Nancy and Steve, who also know the name Demogorgon.
"Mad Mick" comes from Mick being used as a derogatory term for Irish people. Much like hillbilly it's meant to portray a group of people as uncultured and foolish.
I was about to make this comment. It's a pretty common phrase to remember "dredging up the past, bad memories, etc" , so im kinda surprised it wasn't mentioned.
@@rigbeta9664 i'm more surprised because he went through the effort to look up the definition, showed it in the video, and ignored the definition that ties itself directly to the lore of the dredge. It was actually in the video, so the research just didn't go past the first meaning.
A fun fact is that in Brazil the skull merchant is probably the only og character that is called by her true name instead of her killer one. I've never seen or heard anyone in Brazilian matches call her skull merchant or "negociante de crânios" being the literal translation, but rather Adriana which is her birth name. That doesn't happen with other og killers, maybe due to the fact that her killer name is "too long" or too lame to pronounce lol
@@chiarifairy6862you sillies drooling over the killers disgusts me! me, a distinguished pyramid hunk- uh pyramid stud- i mean pyramid head player, would never do this!
Xenomorph makes sense more than alien because Xenomorph is a description, meaning, strange form, it is the strange form of whatever species it’s spawns from
Ghost Face was also a self-given name when Danny was writing about his murders for local newspapers. For example: his add-on "Ghost Face Caught On Tape" is named after the headline to an article he wrote about his exploits!
Ghostface, is also not technically from Scream as he's not anyone from the movies. The movies also never refer to him as specifically "Ghostface" besides one time Tatum said it. In which she dies shortly afterwards and the killer never mentions the name so its never carried on in universe. Its definitely a name this Ghostface would of given himself
Regarding Demogorgon and Xenomorph- I think those might be the most straightforward cases of the associated survivors informing everyone else what the monster is. Steve and Nancy fought the Demogorgon, they know what the kids called it, and they'd likely use that shorthand themselves while describing it to their teammates because, well, they don't know what it's "real" name is, if it even has one. Similar for the Xenomorph, that is the name used in Alien (the franchise, iirc it is first used in the second movie) and therefore Ripley would likely have used that term while describing it to her teammates.
Really interesting video! I think The Hag is almost definitely more to do with witchcraft and folklore than her perceived age. In folklore, Hags are fey creatures that often live in swamplands or marshes. Seeing someone who lives in a swamp that looks “swampy,” who also uses witchcraft to hex humans unlucky enough to stumble into her territory, would absolutely fit common folklore knowledge. She comes straight out of a fairytale in the worst way
i dont think "dredge" necessarily only refers to water, im pretty sure its meant to refer to how it consumes anything in its path, adding whatever it can grab to its body and void, much like how a dredging boat pulls things into it.
The names for the license characters came most likely from the fact that the Survivors either watched the movies, played the games or get it from the survivors from the same franchise. Some changes could be done because of interaction between killer and survivors. Like a survivor swearing "we need to get this damn cannibal out of the basement" Or Wesker taunting the survivors "do you really believe you can compete with the superior mind of a master tactician" (he definitely has the ego for that)
I thought the entity named the killers. In the killer lore videos you've done, there's been mentions of killers being proud of the names the entity has given them- particularly when you talked about Hillbilly being happy that the entity gave him a name so he no longer had to be just "boy" anymore.
Legion's name is also a play on "I am legion, for we are many", the "name" given by a possessed man in Mark 5/Luke 8 (rather it's an evasion, referring to many demons inhabiting one body). Cenobite makes sense since he launched with a skin for another Cenobite, "the Chatterer". Fingers crossed we get more...
The name Skull Merchant being known to the survivors could be from investigating her Headquarters in Shelter Woods during a Trial. She has several blueprints and probably a Journal or copies of the manga or storyboards.
I think Skully should have been called something like The Villain as her killer name, as her design pulls heavily from comic book and action movie supervillains, while Skull Merchant could be just the name of the comic book character in her lore
If I remember correctly, Mick is actually a discriminatory name/slur that was used against Irish immigrants, which makes sense why it was applied to Caleb.
Another reason for the Hillbilly’s name is that there is a trope of “hillbilly horror” that is about wild people living outside of society who take out animalistic impulses on “civilized” people. Despite the fact that the term hillbilly originally refers to people from Appalachia, it has been used to refer to the family from Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the group in The Hills Have Eyes, and many other non Appalachian people.
And just to mention the TCM family is a work of fiction. The historical event it's based on wasn't in Texas didn't use chainsaws only killed two or three people and was a dude working alone
5:40 Legion's name might also be a reference to a Christian story where Jesus performs an exorcism. He asks the demon's name and it says "my name is Legion, for we are many"
For the Hillbilly it’s revealed in the second legion comic that after his disappearance that they made a movie franchise based on him, so maybe survivors are familiar with the name Hillbilly like we are with Leatherface
I think of The dredge being referred to that because it contains the dredges of man; it’s a big heap of flesh and really feels like it came from the forgotten leftovers of something
I think that benedict wrote in his notes the names he had given to the killers, at least some. I remember that being for Shape and The Pig, also for clown, doctor I think and maybe some others. So theory about these names being given by survivors is true
Xenomorph is actually a description name, not a specific one. It roughly translates to mean “strange form”. The name was given to it in the movie when they said it was A xenomorph not THE xenomorph.
It’s possible Talbot got his name after speaking with survivors and calling The Pustula a blight on the realm, and after he transforms, the survivors call him it. It’s also possible they learnt the name from Talbot’s, Vigo’s or Benedict’s journal. I would think The Dredge refers to how it dredged out all of the fear and paranoia in The Garden of Joy, as well as dredging up Otto Stamper’s real role as a high up member of The Black Vale.
For the skull merchant, while we don’t know this, it is possible that she has her name inscribed or etched into her drones somewhere. And the survivors saw it when they were disarming them.
Re: the Deathslinger being called 'mad Mick' - This is a bit interesting, as that may not have been a nickname. "Mick" was/is a derogatory term for someone from Ireland, and I imagine some of Caleb's enemies or just people who knew about him would have referred to him that way.
Still my favorite story with the pig is that for the longest time my friend had no idea that she was wearing a mask and just thought they actually had a pig head, which led to a pretty good reaction when they stuned them for the first time and heard the squeak.
I always thought it was called Dredge because it inflicts Dread, intense fear despite no real threat being visible yet, since it makes you unable to see with nightfall and can come out of whats usually a safe space making the survivors very paraoid as it could jump out of nowhere at any point. Thats just my thoughts though
When it comes to how Wesker got the nickname The Mastermind it’s actually because of his constant planning and him being a more background villain in the games R0-RE4. It was also his plan to kill off S.T.A.R.S. in the Spencer Mansion in Resident Evil 1 following the outbreak of the T-Virus in the Arkaly Mountains
Some like Demo and Xenomrph definitely got their names by word of mouth from Steve/Nancy or Ellen. I wouldnt put it past Ada to sarcastically call Albert the Mastermind. And Yoichi would absolutely call Sadako an Onryo.
It's funny having the Resident Evil characters in the game because they could probably defeat some of the killers in hand to hand combat(if no entity magic interference), like, what is the legion going to do to Chris, ada or Leon? Those guys killed house sized monsters and hordes of zombies, they could take on all four of these kids with a hand behind their back.
The surviviors cant have possibly called the demogorgon, "The Demogorgon" because stranger things wasn't out when DBD released, unless Steve and Nancy told them about it
I just imagine for the weirder more human characters, that they might just call themself that when they speak english, and the dredge might just be the weirder name beeing mispronounced by the survivors.
Survivors took a look at it and its power in the trials and figured that's what it was: Trapper, Wraith, Hillbilly, Nurse, Huntress, Shape, Hag, Doctor, Cannibal, Nightmare, Pig, Clown, Spirit, Plague, GhostFace, Oni, Executionner, Blight, Twins, Artist, Dredge, Knight, Xenomorph A specific survivor that encountered the killer (usually the ones that came with said killer) before the trials communicated the killer's name to other survivors: Shape, Nightmare, Legion, Demogorgon, Executionner, Trickster, Nemesis, Artist, Onryo, Mastermind, Singularity, Xenomorph The killer themselves somehow told survivors their names (excluding those like Trapper and Clown that would be capable of, but likely wouldn't care to give it): Nightmare, Legion, GhostFace, Deathslinger, Trickster, Cenobite, Mastermind, Skull Merchant and noone's going into "The Entity just made that name up just 'cus they needed a name" because i find that to be a rather poor excuse.
In terms of Adriana’s name in universe, aside from the mangas, you could read it in a metaphorical sense of her dealing in the heads of people standing in the way of her profits, metaphorically dealing in the selling of their skulls in exchange for their business or properties. In trails though, it is admittedly not the first name that might come to mind to the survivors (although tbf a lot of the licensed killers are titles they couldn’t be aware of), but especially given how much she obsesses over the persona, she’d probably find ways to let them know. Probably some of her dads leftover manga work from her add ons around her base, she might just straight up tell them (she doesn’t seem the type to talk much during her hunts but especially since she’s now hunting 4 people instead of like 1-2, she almost definetly gets a bit too into and unironically does the THWACK line”😅), or maybe Thalia and Renato at least know about her given their time outfits? Heck even her manga charms if those are even canon.
For the Dredge, Dredging is when you use a net to get stuff from the ocean surface, and he/ it... dredged up all the dead people in the Garden of Joy when they all killed each other.
If the survivors were the ones to give the killers their names, I would expect more insults. Hill billy is that one chainsaw fu- and the nurse is the crazy screaming bi-
I like the idea that, every time a new survivor shows up at the campfire, the first thing they get asked is: "so, what psycho monster have you faced recently?" Then the new survivor has to give everyone a quick rundown on what their killer is all about. "He was wearing a lab coat, like a doctor!", "He's a criminal mastermind who's bonded himself to a virus", "it's an alien. The company's been calling it a xenomorph". I like the idea that occasionally, someone like Zarina or Haddie will recognise the killer from their investigations. Then you have studs like Ash and Nicolas Cage who rock up with no new killers, and everyone breathes a sigh of relief. The outlier is Pinhead. I like to imagine that he just told some of his victims who and what he was. He likes a good monologue.
I think the original intent of the killers was for them to be named by survivors, but Behaviour has slowly evolved to include their species, trademark, nom de plume, and self-assigned titles, so its just a toss up. For instance. The Bakemono/Boukon wouldve been better for Sadako, as her lore had her and her mother referred to multiple times as a "Bakemono" by people who feared or refuted her. And Boukon referred to the "Goblins/Monster" in the poem from the cursed tape and the island Sadako came from regarding the sea. I understand why they chose Onryo, but Bakemono wouldve been a moee suitable indicator simialr to how Yamaoka was called "Oni" directly.
Another instance from the early days was Nurse. I doubt anyone wouldve looked at her and thought she was a Nurse, unless they knew what very old nurse attire looked like. It wouldve made more sense to call her Banshee, as she screams while teleporting and they're a bit more common folklore in America nowadays, or "Gray Lady"/Phantom/Angel as she's literally just a floating woman with a sack over her face.
I'm pretty sure that wesker just started calling himself the mastermind during the trials. He certainly won't shut up durimg them, and i think he would think himself such.
It might be a massive reach, but the pig might be named like that because of her mask having a slight resemblance to a pig, so it may be because of that
Haddie also knows about Carmina Mora. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone from Carmina's era onwards would know her while everyone who existed before/died before her (ie Kazan, Caleb, Sally) would not know her before meeting her in the Fog.
The Spirit/Onryo divide might come from Adam being introduced at the same time, while Sadako later and Yui also being there. Cheryl would have no idea who Pyramid Head is, she might have seen the picture of him, but that's a reach, neither her or her dad, the Legend Harry Mason, visited the Historical society to see the Misty Day, Remains of Judgement painting. It's apparent that James arrived later because the name of the Executioner stuck, instead of him being The Red Pyramid Thing.
Fun Fact: Singularity's name in Turkish version is "Entropi", which basically means an instance of randomness or irregularity in a system, which also really fits the killer. I love DbD's localization team here. They get really clever and creative with translations.
i always imagined it was called dredge because like how you can dredge up all the mud and garbage from the sea floor all into one big pile, he sort of scrapes up any and all body parts he finds and mushes them into one
I think Skull Merchant could be that Thalita and Renato happened to read the manga but that’s all I could come up with. If she was called The Headhunter instead it could be plausible to see why the survivors came up with it.
I just want to say that another name that could, but not likely be used, for the Xenomorph is The Serpent, as that’s what the Yaut’ja, or Predators, refer to them as. Would’ve been a cool little reference, even if a niche one.
Well Spirit being the entity’s attempt at creating an Onryo makes sense with Sadako being called The Onryo. Sadako is the real deal, not an imitation. I imagine that at least some of the names are just out-of-universe naming convention terms to keep up with tradition by the devs. In game, I’m certain most survivors just call characters like Myers, Freddy, Wesker and Sadako by name (Nick Cage certainly does.) Bubba and Leatherface are also probably used interchangeably.
i think dwight lives in the texas chainsaw universe as one of his cosmetics the black and blue head says that leatherface beat him with a chainsaw meaning dwight might know that he’s a cannibal from their past interactions
Another funfact i just realized while learning japanese is the onis first name. as kazan or ka-san is the japanese word that could be translated as vulcano. so going into his fury seeing all the flames breaking out of him is a great detail to notice^^
for some reason i imagin that the way they decided on the unknowns name was trying to figure out a name for them but couldn't figure one out and someone yelled "this guy is to unknown to think of something" and then they think that a good idea and give it that name
D&D's Demogorgon is not a type of monster but is actually the name of a specific ruler in the demon realm (Which suggests the boys were quite late into their campaign).
It’s called “the Dredge because the slang term for dredge is to start talking or thinking of something (usually unpleasant) which you could interpret it as it doing harm to those who speak any negativity. Just a thought
The onryo spirit situation was because spirit was supposed to be originally based of the first ever "idea" of the onryo but they never had rights to the franchise so they couldn't name her that and so once they did have rights they obviously would name the actual onryo,The onryo same with hillbilly and the cannibal, hillbilly was based off Bubba until they got the rights of TCM
Two things, I feel like Nancy snd Steve would be the reason Demo is still called "The Demogorgon." Just like how Jill would probably explain how any of the RE characters would explain who Wesker and Nemesis are. The only other thing is assuming the survivors get together and try to come up with a unified naming scheme. Wouldn't it be plausible that Renato or Thalita may have seen/read some part of the comic? I know the comic was a failure, but if it was ever published it could have been read by one of them. Or she may have some of her fathers works, and seeing as the Lyra Twins stumbled across her base during the whole "hunting" the CEOs thing they may have seen it and her drones? Seeing as she uses human skills and is a buisness woman it may have been a translation thing? Assuming the Lyra Twins dont speak English, or it could have just been their way to describe it? They just out 2 and 2 together and come up with a shoddy nickname using the two main reconizeable features from Adriana. CEO and Human Skulls.
Wesker referes to himself as the mastermind. I really wish Leatherface had just been called well, leatherface. Thats what his own family calls him. In part 2 they call him Bubba, but still, the character is based on the first movie. But i can 100% promise you the survivors share info about the Killers, and where they've come from alomg with the killers origins. But someone like Wesker is 100% able to speak, so you KNOW he calls himself that.
The cenobite is actually perfect, because remember we have chatterer. So having a name like the pinhead would make it too personal. Leaving it as the cenobite can invite more legendary cosmetics for the other cenobites. I personally would love to see butterball, deepthroat, and Angelique the hell princess
I've always been disappointed with Sadako's name in dbd, not only does it step on Spirit's toes quiet a bit, there are way cooler and more flavorful names she could have had. The Nensha or The Virus are names given to Sadako throughout the books and movies and would have worked just as well to convey the supernatural aspects of her character.
i hate the artist for her name. just call her The Birdwatcher and change the lore! now you can have an ACTUAL artist who ACTUALLY draws something more than just crows!
I think it would be funny if the entity either shared the lore with the survivors or skull merchant her self brought the faield comics to the trial and a surv somehow found them
With Demogorgon, technically they didn't connect the dots of it resembling the creature, cause well, it doesn't look like a DnD Demogorgon at all. Eleven simply used the Demogorgon figure to represent the monster
At 10:05, we can see that another definition for Dredge is “bring something unwelcome and forgotten or obscure to people’s attention!”
How did I miss that 😭😭 I need to get more sleep clearly
i think dredge goes quite well with what the survivors are looking at. looks like a twisted pile of corpses dredged up from a mass burial site.
@@Headspr0uter Yeah, it looks like a ball of junk.
@@lazernor And bunched up like a turkey
Also, in russian The Dredge's name is translated to "Грязь" which means "dirt" or "mud"
Could probably be connected in some way or the localization is just bad idk
I think the trapper might be called trapper because he places traps guys
Bit of a stretch but ok
DEEP. LORE.
I had to read many different articles and read lots of tome lore, as well as watching a couple hundred videos and documentary’s on The Trapper to agree with this sound observation.
Nah man it's clearly because playing him feels like trapping yourself in pain and suffering
@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur astute observation, although you can just not play trapper and won’t have to suffer…
I know that the Realm is really messed up, but I think it’s kind of funny to imagine one of the Survivors seeing someone from a movie or game like Nemesis and getting a little giddy
Literally how do you think Feng reacted when Jill and Cheryl turned up, since she’s clearly played their games
@@kimberlyterasaki4843 Feng: "WHAT? Omg you are REAL!?? man you are my favorite video game character!"
Jill: "What did you fucking say to me?!"
@@kimberlyterasaki4843 Just suddenly gives Jill an existential crisis. Feng fangirling over her favorite video game character and Jill believing she's a real person lol
That is assuming the games, films and series represented in DBD exist in the universes each of the survivors come from. The Legion kids might recognize a bunch of them, for example, since they seem to come from a basic vanilla sort of verse like ours.
@@drbuni i mean feng litteraly has a jill valentine cosplay skin. And there is a charm in the game with a Saw comic book. Lore wise these other media actually exists because the survivors and killers all are from our world. Before they got taken from the entity (and unless they are from a dif. franchise ofc)
Wouldn't it be so funny, tho, if Jill and Chris had talked about everything Wesker had done, and how he had done it, and the other survivors, used to giving killers weird nicknames, were like: "OMG He's a Mastermind." And the RE characters tried to stop the spreading of that name, but now they just sit angrily, as the name for Wesker remains? xD
maybe the Entity, somehow, removes the survivors' ability to call the killers by their real name? Since It seems to, already, have the power to remove their ability to fight back... Although, I'm not sure how this would benefit the Entity or the trials
Another funny part: Wesker and Chris are clearly from the original timeline while Leon and Jill are from the remake, so I’m just wondering what it was like for Jill to see her traitor boss suddenly wearing a leather overcoat and shit
@@kimberlyterasaki4843 And then another time sees him in his STARS uniform or Blighted
@@Allanfeijoada entity feeds off of fear and hope, giving a gun to someone does make them feel secure, even they are hunted by some actual monster or psycho killer, which is not good "food" i guess? XD After all, the pike of entitys thrill out of all that comes when the survivors get closer and closer to escape, doesnt matter if they make it or not, entity gets its energy from the adrenalin-heavy emotions. Thats how i understood at least.
@@Allanfeijoadainteresting and unique take. I've never seen anyone else suggest this idea. In magical and fantasy stories, there's great power in a name, so robbing survivors of the ability to put a name to the horrors they face makes the horror worse for them. Maybe that's why they had to get creative with these monikers, because the entity robbed them of their ability to name them.
Skull Merchant’s name is very accurate, sells many skulls, yes
She sells shell skulls at the sea shore...
But the value of these shell skulls will fall
Very very accurate
@@JamesCarterfurballI can’t say that and I can’t even read it XD
Due to the law of skuplly and demand
I love to imagine that Adriana is such a nerd and loves being the center of attention, she litterally tells them that she's called "The Skull Merchant"
In her mori she tells them (you can’t see cause of the mask)
“I will take your skull… and sell it. For I am….. **THE SKULL MERCHANT**”
@@Realpuro99”I’m going to Skull Merchant all over you”
"It's merchant time"
@@Realpuro99Okay that's fucking funny
In her head she probably unironically goes THWACK like her perk and even does the dramatic manga narration of her hunting.
1. Michael is called the Shape because that's what director John Carpenter referred to him as within the filming of the original Halloween. Evil hiding behind the shape of a man.
2. Xeno means something is either strange or foreign and morph means something is changing so it ties into how the Xenomorph can change form depending on it's host. Fun-fact, one of his earliest names was Big Chap and the actor who played him was actually 6' 10" in real life. Alien's filmmaking was so beyond it's time.
big chap is now officially his name for me
In Resident Evil Resistance, the killer role equivalent were called "Masterminds."
"Big Chap" was a production name I think, sometimes characters get a de facto name when the filmmakers or production crew start calling them by a name behind the scenes (usually as a bit of a gag). Like how the shark in Jaws got dubbed "Bruce".
The Alien fandom still affectionately call the 1979 Alien Big Chap. He's also called Kane's Son, but less often.
It’s called the Xenomorph because Xeno means strange and morph means form. It’s name literally means strange life form.
I just came to the realization that the Hag is probably the youngest human killer in DBD. Ooh a "How old the killers/ survivors are" would actually be a cool vid.
The legion members are also 18 (some debate they are 17, but BHVR debunked that)
@@LoveThomas07 really? I always saw them as college students pretty cool of bhvr to clear that up
There is a video like that already
@@Gemini_me In Susie´s lore (her base outfit) it is implied that it was about time for her to start preparing for college, so they are pretty much highschool seniors, right before getting out on college freshman age which is 18+ unless you are an actual genius that skipped highschool altogether.
The Legion's name can also probably be described as
"My name is Legion: for we are many"
It's basically 4 killers in 1 character
and the blightet skin takes that as litteral ☠
@@liandre9035yeaaah the best blighted skin
5 if you consider hunk
its actually 4 character 1 killer
Trapper's blew my mind...
lmao
I thought a more appropriate name for Trapper would be Utter Trash, cos he sucks.
i had a heart attack and are currently in a hospital because of that
Yun-Jin Lee also was you know.. Trickster's manager. She could have just immediately identified him and spread the name around. Demogorgon also came with Nancy and Steve, who also know the name Demogorgon.
"Mad Mick" comes from Mick being used as a derogatory term for Irish people. Much like hillbilly it's meant to portray a group of people as uncultured and foolish.
The Dredge is likely meant to refer to the ‘dredging up’ bad memories which may want to be forgotten.
I was about to make this comment. It's a pretty common phrase to remember "dredging up the past, bad memories, etc" , so im kinda surprised it wasn't mentioned.
@@rigbeta9664 i'm more surprised because he went through the effort to look up the definition, showed it in the video, and ignored the definition that ties itself directly to the lore of the dredge. It was actually in the video, so the research just didn't go past the first meaning.
I like it
My favorite part is when "The Trapper" said, "it's trapping time", and trapped all the survivors
A fun fact is that in Brazil the skull merchant is probably the only og character that is called by her true name instead of her killer one. I've never seen or heard anyone in Brazilian matches call her skull merchant or "negociante de crânios" being the literal translation, but rather Adriana which is her birth name. That doesn't happen with other og killers, maybe due to the fact that her killer name is "too long" or too lame to pronounce lol
In America we call her Skull Mommy 😂
@@chiarifairy6862No we do not.
@@chiarifairy6862you sillies drooling over the killers disgusts me!
me, a distinguished pyramid hunk- uh pyramid stud- i mean pyramid head player, would never do this!
Vommy mommy
On tiktok people also mainly just call her adriana I think it might be popularized by the Brazilians. It feels right to call her by her name.
Xenomorph makes sense more than alien because Xenomorph is a description, meaning, strange form, it is the strange form of whatever species it’s spawns from
And maybe they'll want to add an original alien killer at some point, so it would be good to keep that name open
Ghost Face was also a self-given name when Danny was writing about his murders for local newspapers. For example: his add-on "Ghost Face Caught On Tape" is named after the headline to an article he wrote about his exploits!
Ghostface, is also not technically from Scream as he's not anyone from the movies. The movies also never refer to him as specifically "Ghostface" besides one time Tatum said it. In which she dies shortly afterwards and the killer never mentions the name so its never carried on in universe. Its definitely a name this Ghostface would of given himself
Regarding Demogorgon and Xenomorph- I think those might be the most straightforward cases of the associated survivors informing everyone else what the monster is. Steve and Nancy fought the Demogorgon, they know what the kids called it, and they'd likely use that shorthand themselves while describing it to their teammates because, well, they don't know what it's "real" name is, if it even has one.
Similar for the Xenomorph, that is the name used in Alien (the franchise, iirc it is first used in the second movie) and therefore Ripley would likely have used that term while describing it to her teammates.
Really interesting video!
I think The Hag is almost definitely more to do with witchcraft and folklore than her perceived age. In folklore, Hags are fey creatures that often live in swamplands or marshes. Seeing someone who lives in a swamp that looks “swampy,” who also uses witchcraft to hex humans unlucky enough to stumble into her territory, would absolutely fit common folklore knowledge. She comes straight out of a fairytale in the worst way
i dont think "dredge" necessarily only refers to water, im pretty sure its meant to refer to how it consumes anything in its path, adding whatever it can grab to its body and void, much like how a dredging boat pulls things into it.
Wesker's nickname as The Mastermind could be a reference to Resident Evil Resistance, a DBD-like game where the killers are called Masterminds.
The names for the license characters came most likely from the fact that the Survivors either watched the movies, played the games or get it from the survivors from the same franchise. Some changes could be done because of interaction between killer and survivors.
Like a survivor swearing "we need to get this damn cannibal out of the basement"
Or Wesker taunting the survivors
"do you really believe you can compete with the superior mind of a master tactician" (he definitely has the ego for that)
I thought the entity named the killers. In the killer lore videos you've done, there's been mentions of killers being proud of the names the entity has given them- particularly when you talked about Hillbilly being happy that the entity gave him a name so he no longer had to be just "boy" anymore.
Legion's name is also a play on "I am legion, for we are many", the "name" given by a possessed man in Mark 5/Luke 8 (rather it's an evasion, referring to many demons inhabiting one body).
Cenobite makes sense since he launched with a skin for another Cenobite, "the Chatterer". Fingers crossed we get more...
The name Skull Merchant being known to the survivors could be from investigating her Headquarters in Shelter Woods during a Trial. She has several blueprints and probably a Journal or copies of the manga or storyboards.
I think Skully should have been called something like The Villain as her killer name, as her design pulls heavily from comic book and action movie supervillains, while Skull Merchant could be just the name of the comic book character in her lore
If I remember correctly, Mick is actually a discriminatory name/slur that was used against Irish immigrants, which makes sense why it was applied to Caleb.
Lowkey kinda miss the “Okay BYEEEEEEE” from a while back. It’s nice to see silliness once in a while hehehehe
It'll return when you least expect
Another reason for the Hillbilly’s name is that there is a trope of “hillbilly horror” that is about wild people living outside of society who take out animalistic impulses on “civilized” people. Despite the fact that the term hillbilly originally refers to people from Appalachia, it has been used to refer to the family from Texas Chainsaw Massacre, the group in The Hills Have Eyes, and many other non Appalachian people.
And just to mention the TCM family is a work of fiction. The historical event it's based on wasn't in Texas didn't use chainsaws only killed two or three people and was a dude working alone
Like the people in wrong turn too right?
5:40 Legion's name might also be a reference to a Christian story where Jesus performs an exorcism. He asks the demon's name and it says "my name is Legion, for we are many"
I always had the head canon that since the Manga is in the fog as add on’s Skull Merchant placed it near the campfire so they could read up on it
makes sense
For the Hillbilly it’s revealed in the second legion comic that after his disappearance that they made a movie franchise based on him, so maybe survivors are familiar with the name Hillbilly like we are with Leatherface
I think of The dredge being referred to that because it contains the dredges of man; it’s a big heap of flesh and really feels like it came from the forgotten leftovers of something
I think that benedict wrote in his notes the names he had given to the killers, at least some. I remember that being for Shape and The Pig, also for clown, doctor I think and maybe some others. So theory about these names being given by survivors is true
Xenomorph is actually a description name, not a specific one. It roughly translates to mean “strange form”. The name was given to it in the movie when they said it was A xenomorph not THE xenomorph.
Laurie refers to Michael as The Shape in Halloween 2018, and Benedict Baker also seems to refer to Myers as such
It’s possible Talbot got his name after speaking with survivors and calling The Pustula a blight on the realm, and after he transforms, the survivors call him it. It’s also possible they learnt the name from Talbot’s, Vigo’s or Benedict’s journal. I would think The Dredge refers to how it dredged out all of the fear and paranoia in The Garden of Joy, as well as dredging up Otto Stamper’s real role as a high up member of The Black Vale.
For the skull merchant, while we don’t know this, it is possible that she has her name inscribed or etched into her drones somewhere. And the survivors saw it when they were disarming them.
"Property of: The Skull Merchant...? Lame ass nickname."
*Gets claw-trapped*
"I take it back I take it back"
Ghostface should be called The Stalker, I think it suits him very well.
Re: the Deathslinger being called 'mad Mick' - This is a bit interesting, as that may not have been a nickname. "Mick" was/is a derogatory term for someone from Ireland, and I imagine some of Caleb's enemies or just people who knew about him would have referred to him that way.
Still my favorite story with the pig is that for the longest time my friend had no idea that she was wearing a mask and just thought they actually had a pig head, which led to a pretty good reaction when they stuned them for the first time and heard the squeak.
What, did your your friend think it was like some evil peppa or smthn
@@Groovylonglegs DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DU DU DU DU DU DOO
PEPPA PIG
*stabbing noises*
@@JoshNotJohn0 this is my little brother George
*hooks*
@@Groovylonglegs THIS IS MUMMY PIG!
*puts on reverse bear trap*
@@JoshNotJohn0 and this is daddy pig!
*memento mori*
I always thought it was called Dredge because it inflicts Dread, intense fear despite no real threat being visible yet, since it makes you unable to see with nightfall and can come out of whats usually a safe space making the survivors very paraoid as it could jump out of nowhere at any point.
Thats just my thoughts though
When it comes to how Wesker got the nickname The Mastermind it’s actually because of his constant planning and him being a more background villain in the games R0-RE4. It was also his plan to kill off S.T.A.R.S. in the Spencer Mansion in Resident Evil 1 following the outbreak of the T-Virus in the Arkaly Mountains
Or Maybe the fact that in Resident Evil Resistance,The characters that control Mr.x,Nemesis,Birkin like Daniel and Nikolai are Called "Masterminds"
Hags are often referred to as fey creatures, magical beings that live to cause misery.
Some like Demo and Xenomrph definitely got their names by word of mouth from Steve/Nancy or Ellen. I wouldnt put it past Ada to sarcastically call Albert the Mastermind. And Yoichi would absolutely call Sadako an Onryo.
It's funny having the Resident Evil characters in the game because they could probably defeat some of the killers in hand to hand combat(if no entity magic interference), like, what is the legion going to do to Chris, ada or Leon? Those guys killed house sized monsters and hordes of zombies, they could take on all four of these kids with a hand behind their back.
The surviviors cant have possibly called the demogorgon, "The Demogorgon" because stranger things wasn't out when DBD released, unless Steve and Nancy told them about it
I love how survivors literally did the “my girlfriend names DbD characters” in lore
I’m assuming they came up with the names before they made the lore, meaning trapper is probably just because he places traps…
Great video as always Azhy ❤️
I just imagine for the weirder more human characters, that they might just call themself that when they speak english, and the dredge might just be the weirder name beeing mispronounced by the survivors.
Survivors took a look at it and its power in the trials and figured that's what it was:
Trapper, Wraith, Hillbilly, Nurse, Huntress, Shape, Hag, Doctor, Cannibal, Nightmare, Pig, Clown, Spirit, Plague, GhostFace, Oni, Executionner, Blight, Twins, Artist, Dredge, Knight, Xenomorph
A specific survivor that encountered the killer (usually the ones that came with said killer) before the trials communicated the killer's name to other survivors:
Shape, Nightmare, Legion, Demogorgon, Executionner, Trickster, Nemesis, Artist, Onryo, Mastermind, Singularity, Xenomorph
The killer themselves somehow told survivors their names (excluding those like Trapper and Clown that would be capable of, but likely wouldn't care to give it):
Nightmare, Legion, GhostFace, Deathslinger, Trickster, Cenobite, Mastermind, Skull Merchant
and noone's going into "The Entity just made that name up just 'cus they needed a name" because i find that to be a rather poor excuse.
In terms of Adriana’s name in universe, aside from the mangas, you could read it in a metaphorical sense of her dealing in the heads of people standing in the way of her profits, metaphorically dealing in the selling of their skulls in exchange for their business or properties.
In trails though, it is admittedly not the first name that might come to mind to the survivors (although tbf a lot of the licensed killers are titles they couldn’t be aware of), but especially given how much she obsesses over the persona, she’d probably find ways to let them know. Probably some of her dads leftover manga work from her add ons around her base, she might just straight up tell them (she doesn’t seem the type to talk much during her hunts but especially since she’s now hunting 4 people instead of like 1-2, she almost definetly gets a bit too into and unironically does the THWACK line”😅), or maybe Thalia and Renato at least know about her given their time outfits? Heck even her manga charms if those are even canon.
Almost all of their names are pretty self explanatory but I still wanted to see how you explained this🤣
And he still managed to get some of them wrong, or give bad, non-specific answers.
Marauders Of Mayhem sounds like a great name for a metal band
For the Dredge, Dredging is when you use a net to get stuff from the ocean surface, and he/ it... dredged up all the dead people in the Garden of Joy when they all killed each other.
If the survivors were the ones to give the killers their names, I would expect more insults. Hill billy is that one chainsaw fu- and the nurse is the crazy screaming bi-
Dream pedo
Matrix knock off
Ghost smurf bitch
New head cannon 😂
I like the idea that, every time a new survivor shows up at the campfire, the first thing they get asked is: "so, what psycho monster have you faced recently?"
Then the new survivor has to give everyone a quick rundown on what their killer is all about. "He was wearing a lab coat, like a doctor!", "He's a criminal mastermind who's bonded himself to a virus", "it's an alien. The company's been calling it a xenomorph". I like the idea that occasionally, someone like Zarina or Haddie will recognise the killer from their investigations.
Then you have studs like Ash and Nicolas Cage who rock up with no new killers, and everyone breathes a sigh of relief.
The outlier is Pinhead. I like to imagine that he just told some of his victims who and what he was. He likes a good monologue.
I'm still mad that they called myers the shape instead of giving that name to pyramid head
mark my words this man will never run out of video ideas
I think the original intent of the killers was for them to be named by survivors, but Behaviour has slowly evolved to include their species, trademark, nom de plume, and self-assigned titles, so its just a toss up.
For instance. The Bakemono/Boukon wouldve been better for Sadako, as her lore had her and her mother referred to multiple times as a "Bakemono" by people who feared or refuted her. And Boukon referred to the "Goblins/Monster" in the poem from the cursed tape and the island Sadako came from regarding the sea. I understand why they chose Onryo, but Bakemono wouldve been a moee suitable indicator simialr to how Yamaoka was called "Oni" directly.
Another instance from the early days was Nurse. I doubt anyone wouldve looked at her and thought she was a Nurse, unless they knew what very old nurse attire looked like. It wouldve made more sense to call her Banshee, as she screams while teleporting and they're a bit more common folklore in America nowadays, or "Gray Lady"/Phantom/Angel as she's literally just a floating woman with a sack over her face.
I'm pretty sure that wesker just started calling himself the mastermind during the trials. He certainly won't shut up durimg them, and i think he would think himself such.
When you have your game on German the hag is die hexe and that translate to the witch
It might be a massive reach, but the pig might be named like that because of her mask having a slight resemblance to a pig, so it may be because of that
Dredge could be referring to the negative emotions of its victims being gathered/dredged into one being which is the black fog
You should do a video ranking the DLC chapters based on how cool the names are.
Haddie also knows about Carmina Mora. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone from Carmina's era onwards would know her while everyone who existed before/died before her (ie Kazan, Caleb, Sally) would not know her before meeting her in the Fog.
The Spirit/Onryo divide might come from Adam being introduced at the same time, while Sadako later and Yui also being there.
Cheryl would have no idea who Pyramid Head is, she might have seen the picture of him, but that's a reach, neither her or her dad, the Legend Harry Mason, visited the Historical society to see the Misty Day, Remains of Judgement painting. It's apparent that James arrived later because the name of the Executioner stuck, instead of him being The Red Pyramid Thing.
Fun Fact: Singularity's name in Turkish version is "Entropi", which basically means an instance of randomness or irregularity in a system, which also really fits the killer.
I love DbD's localization team here. They get really clever and creative with translations.
i always imagined it was called dredge because like how you can dredge up all the mud and garbage from the sea floor all into one big pile, he sort of scrapes up any and all body parts he finds and mushes them into one
I think Skull Merchant could be that Thalita and Renato happened to read the manga but that’s all I could come up with. If she was called The Headhunter instead it could be plausible to see why the survivors came up with it.
I just want to say that another name that could, but not likely be used, for the Xenomorph is The Serpent, as that’s what the Yaut’ja, or Predators, refer to them as. Would’ve been a cool little reference, even if a niche one.
Skull Merchant Def seems like a character that would share her name willingly.
5:15
„Okay, we need an edgy gang name, everyone start making suggestions. JOEY, GO!“
whoever remembers this line of dialogue:
👇
Well Spirit being the entity’s attempt at creating an Onryo makes sense with Sadako being called The Onryo. Sadako is the real deal, not an imitation.
I imagine that at least some of the names are just out-of-universe naming convention terms to keep up with tradition by the devs. In game, I’m certain most survivors just call characters like Myers, Freddy, Wesker and Sadako by name (Nick Cage certainly does.) Bubba and Leatherface are also probably used interchangeably.
i think dwight lives in the texas chainsaw universe as one of his cosmetics the black and blue head says that leatherface beat him with a chainsaw meaning dwight might know that he’s a cannibal from their past interactions
I think "The Legion" is a biblical reference.
Yeah, I think so, too. It's from Mark 5:9.
imagine being a survivor who watched the texas chainsaw massacre, and all of the sudden he coming at you from down a hallway in the hospital.
Steve and Nancy could have told the other survivors that it’s called the demogorgon
The Dredge "You can feel a sense of Dredge" It's why he is named that with him living in the shadows and being a boogeyman
Another funfact i just realized while learning japanese is the onis first name. as kazan or ka-san is the japanese word that could be translated as vulcano. so going into his fury seeing all the flames breaking out of him is a great detail to notice^^
The Demogorgan could have also gotten his name from the two characters from stranger things who became survivors.
6:49 why did you not bring them to the basement? Brought sadness to my heart to watch
for some reason i imagin that the way they decided on the unknowns name was trying to figure out a name for them but couldn't figure one out and someone yelled "this guy is to unknown to think of something" and then they think that a good idea and give it that name
D&D's Demogorgon is not a type of monster but is actually the name of a specific ruler in the demon realm (Which suggests the boys were quite late into their campaign).
I feel like Xenomorph was a missed opportunity, because we all know that it's *The Alien*
It’s called “the Dredge because the slang term for dredge is to start talking or thinking of something (usually unpleasant) which you could interpret it as it doing harm to those who speak any negativity. Just a thought
I'd bet the Skull Merchant has the name somewhere in the structure the Entity put up in the Red Wood
The onryo spirit situation was because spirit was supposed to be originally based of the first ever "idea" of the onryo but they never had rights to the franchise so they couldn't name her that and so once they did have rights they obviously would name the actual onryo,The onryo same with hillbilly and the cannibal, hillbilly was based off Bubba until they got the rights of TCM
Two things, I feel like Nancy snd Steve would be the reason Demo is still called "The Demogorgon." Just like how Jill would probably explain how any of the RE characters would explain who Wesker and Nemesis are.
The only other thing is assuming the survivors get together and try to come up with a unified naming scheme. Wouldn't it be plausible that Renato or Thalita may have seen/read some part of the comic? I know the comic was a failure, but if it was ever published it could have been read by one of them.
Or she may have some of her fathers works, and seeing as the Lyra Twins stumbled across her base during the whole "hunting" the CEOs thing they may have seen it and her drones?
Seeing as she uses human skills and is a buisness woman it may have been a translation thing? Assuming the Lyra Twins dont speak English, or it could have just been their way to describe it? They just out 2 and 2 together and come up with a shoddy nickname using the two main reconizeable features from Adriana. CEO and Human Skulls.
Wesker referes to himself as the mastermind. I really wish Leatherface had just been called well, leatherface. Thats what his own family calls him. In part 2 they call him Bubba, but still, the character is based on the first movie. But i can 100% promise you the survivors share info about the Killers, and where they've come from alomg with the killers origins. But someone like Wesker is 100% able to speak, so you KNOW he calls himself that.
The cenobite is actually perfect, because remember we have chatterer. So having a name like the pinhead would make it too personal. Leaving it as the cenobite can invite more legendary cosmetics for the other cenobites.
I personally would love to see butterball, deepthroat, and Angelique the hell princess
I've always been disappointed with Sadako's name in dbd, not only does it step on Spirit's toes quiet a bit, there are way cooler and more flavorful names she could have had. The Nensha or The Virus are names given to Sadako throughout the books and movies and would have worked just as well to convey the supernatural aspects of her character.
i hate the artist for her name. just call her The Birdwatcher and change the lore! now you can have an ACTUAL artist who ACTUALLY draws something more than just crows!
I think it would be funny if the entity either shared the lore with the survivors or skull merchant her self brought the faield comics to the trial and a surv somehow found them
I think the clowns name is fitting since he pretended to be a clown to make his killing spree harder to track
This video made me realize that quite a few killers really have some nonsensical names...
With Demogorgon, technically they didn't connect the dots of it resembling the creature, cause well, it doesn't look like a DnD Demogorgon at all. Eleven simply used the Demogorgon figure to represent the monster
From what I’ve heard, the entity gave the hillbilly his name. Idk if that was fanmade or not but if not that means the entity names the killers
I'd like to think Dwight writes all the names in a nerdy notebook to make the killer seem more mysterious
for demogorgon steve and nancy versed them so they already had a name and just told everyone else
Dredge means to bring unpleasant memories that had been forgotten